Remove Ad, Sign Up
Register to Remove Ad
Register to Remove Ad
Remove Ad, Sign Up
Register to Remove Ad
Register to Remove Ad
Signup for free
for more features
and less ads
About   Users   Help
Users & Guests Online
On Page: 1
Directory: 2 & 25
Entire Site: 13 & 200
Page Staff: Boured, Eniitan,
04-09-20 04:18 AM

Forum Links

Thread Information

Views
707
Replies
18
Rating
19
Status
CLOSED
Thread
Creator
Maguc
05-27-16 11:45 PM
Last
Post
janus
06-05-16 11:23 AM

Thread Actions

Thread Closed
Add to favorites

Order
 

On the dislike system.

 

05-27-16 11:45 PM
Maguc is Offline
| ID: 1272084 | 32 Words

Maguc
maguc
Maguc
Level: 85


POSTS: 1806/2101
POST EXP: 130906
LVL EXP: 5764987
CP: 5448.2
VIZ: 22682

Likes: 1  Dislikes: 1
Yeah we think it's dumb. Like I'll add on to this in the morning when I'm not asleep but my good buddy pal friendo chum of a guy Galacta: will explain it.
Yeah we think it's dumb. Like I'll add on to this in the morning when I'm not asleep but my good buddy pal friendo chum of a guy Galacta: will explain it.
Site Staff
Content Adder
Im Back


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 06-17-10
Last Post: 431 days
Last Active: 404 days

Post Rating: 0   Liked By: Patrick Star,

Related Content

Content Coming Soon

05-27-16 11:56 PM
Minuano is Offline
| ID: 1272085 | 199 Words

Minuano
Galacta
Super Davideo7 2
Level: 110


POSTS: 2843/3764
POST EXP: 146195
LVL EXP: 14366560
CP: 10497.5
VIZ: 1270508

Likes: 4  Dislikes: 4
The dislike system, in short, is pretty cowardly. It's like if you ask somebody to review your essay and they say "I don't like it." You ask them why, and they reply with "..... I don't like it." What's the goshdarn point? Here's the answer - there is none. The system is COMPLETELY pointless - it adds absolutely nothing.

I also think it's EVEN WORSE if positions of power use the system - local mods, globals, etc. Your job is to ensure quality and fairness among the board. What does clicking dislike on a post do? "s*** guys, I got two dislikes on my post, I'm gonna change my ways!" No. It works NOTHING like that.

The dislike system needs to be removed completely. Even if you made it so that it is visible who disliked the post, it's only going to start unneeded, stupid fights. If someone really wants to go out of their way to say "Hey! I didn't like what you posted, you nut!" then they should type a meaningful response to them, whether on the same thread or in private, explaining why. Let's be adults here. Explain yourself or f***ing don't do anything about it.


The dislike system, in short, is pretty cowardly. It's like if you ask somebody to review your essay and they say "I don't like it." You ask them why, and they reply with "..... I don't like it." What's the goshdarn point? Here's the answer - there is none. The system is COMPLETELY pointless - it adds absolutely nothing.

I also think it's EVEN WORSE if positions of power use the system - local mods, globals, etc. Your job is to ensure quality and fairness among the board. What does clicking dislike on a post do? "s*** guys, I got two dislikes on my post, I'm gonna change my ways!" No. It works NOTHING like that.

The dislike system needs to be removed completely. Even if you made it so that it is visible who disliked the post, it's only going to start unneeded, stupid fights. If someone really wants to go out of their way to say "Hey! I didn't like what you posted, you nut!" then they should type a meaningful response to them, whether on the same thread or in private, explaining why. Let's be adults here. Explain yourself or f***ing don't do anything about it.


Administrator
Moderator Manager


Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'

Registered: 09-03-09
Location: Miami, FL
Last Post: 13 hours
Last Active: 9 hours

Post Rating: 0   Liked By: Eniitan, Mohammedroxx3, Patrick Star, RDay13,

05-28-16 12:18 AM
m0ssb3rg935 is Offline
| ID: 1272086 | 66 Words

m0ssb3rg935
m0ssb3rg935
Level: 102


POSTS: 598/3603
POST EXP: 282588
LVL EXP: 11000872
CP: 21359.4
VIZ: 329070

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Galacta : Even though I don't think it's that big of a deal, I do think that the Report Post link serves well enough to replace it. I mean, if you disagree, then disagree. If it's worthy of a report, then report it. If it isn't, don't. Seems reasonable enough to me. I still don't think it's big enough of a deal to be a priority though.
Galacta : Even though I don't think it's that big of a deal, I do think that the Report Post link serves well enough to replace it. I mean, if you disagree, then disagree. If it's worthy of a report, then report it. If it isn't, don't. Seems reasonable enough to me. I still don't think it's big enough of a deal to be a priority though.
Global Moderator
Social Media Manager
Token Clueless Guy to Make Others Look Smarter


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 03-09-13
Location: Tennessee
Last Post: 6 days
Last Active: 6 days

05-28-16 12:23 AM
geeogree is Offline
| ID: 1272087 | 153 Words

geeogree
Mr Geeohn-A-Vash53215
Level: 280


POSTS: 27051/29032
POST EXP: 1932053
LVL EXP: 369328391
CP: 50069.6
VIZ: 250460

Likes: 12  Dislikes: 0
Shockingly enough I actually agree with you guys about this. There are very few pros and a lot of possible cons to the system.

I use likes to let people know I saw their post and agree with what they've said. Quite often it is staff related and rather than make a "I agree with that, go make it happen." I just use the like button and things happen.

The dislike button is so rarely used that it really serves almost no purpose. Disliking a post more often than not causes the person receiving the dislike to feel hurt rather than promote any kind of change and a simple dislike doesn't actually provide quality feedback.

I'd be fine with getting rid of the system as well - thing is, only David can do that so you'll need to convince him of this. By all means I'm on board with getting rid of dislikes.
Shockingly enough I actually agree with you guys about this. There are very few pros and a lot of possible cons to the system.

I use likes to let people know I saw their post and agree with what they've said. Quite often it is staff related and rather than make a "I agree with that, go make it happen." I just use the like button and things happen.

The dislike button is so rarely used that it really serves almost no purpose. Disliking a post more often than not causes the person receiving the dislike to feel hurt rather than promote any kind of change and a simple dislike doesn't actually provide quality feedback.

I'd be fine with getting rid of the system as well - thing is, only David can do that so you'll need to convince him of this. By all means I'm on board with getting rid of dislikes.
Vizzed Elite
Banzilla


Affected by 'Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'

Registered: 01-03-05
Last Post: 4 hours
Last Active: 3 hours

05-28-16 06:13 AM
yoshirulez! is Offline
| ID: 1272132 | 114 Words

yoshirulez!
Level: 103


POSTS: 1667/3269
POST EXP: 199554
LVL EXP: 11406104
CP: 19465.0
VIZ: 84303

Likes: 3  Dislikes: 0
I don't actually care anything about whether people like or dislike my post, I'm not self-conscious like that. It's just silly to think about since there's always people out there who are going to like it for stupid reasons, and if I was self-conscious I'd probably assume I should change something about it.

So yeah, I'm down with removing it. or I'm down for keeping it, it's whatever.

If anything it's good for laughs to see how feeble-minded some people are when they cannot grasp the concept of what you're saying, or react in an outrage at the revelation that is brought upon them by the post they're going to dislike.

Heh heh heh.
I don't actually care anything about whether people like or dislike my post, I'm not self-conscious like that. It's just silly to think about since there's always people out there who are going to like it for stupid reasons, and if I was self-conscious I'd probably assume I should change something about it.

So yeah, I'm down with removing it. or I'm down for keeping it, it's whatever.

If anything it's good for laughs to see how feeble-minded some people are when they cannot grasp the concept of what you're saying, or react in an outrage at the revelation that is brought upon them by the post they're going to dislike.

Heh heh heh.
Vizzed Elite
Vizzed's #1 Kingdom Hearts Fan


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 01-27-10
Location: Duwang
Last Post: 278 days
Last Active: 241 days

Post Rating: 3   Liked By: Eirinn, Eniitan, Lexatom,

05-28-16 06:25 AM
Zlinqx is Offline
| ID: 1272134 | 111 Words

Zlinqx
Zlinqx
Level: 112


POSTS: 2809/4562
POST EXP: 637733
LVL EXP: 15261816
CP: 51606.5
VIZ: 653801

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
This isn't something that hasn't been discussed before. Me and Sword Legion have brought this up multiple times in the past but nothing came from it. It does nothing but start drama especially now that more people can see who dislikes posts, or discouraging people from posting in general. Not encouraging them to try and change their ways. Particularly if you have an unpopular opinion on something you're setting yourself up for a bad post rating.

In the end the decision to change the post rating system is entirely up to David. So it would be about convicing him that it's the right thing to do to see any actual change.
This isn't something that hasn't been discussed before. Me and Sword Legion have brought this up multiple times in the past but nothing came from it. It does nothing but start drama especially now that more people can see who dislikes posts, or discouraging people from posting in general. Not encouraging them to try and change their ways. Particularly if you have an unpopular opinion on something you're setting yourself up for a bad post rating.

In the end the decision to change the post rating system is entirely up to David. So it would be about convicing him that it's the right thing to do to see any actual change.
Vizzed Elite

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 07-21-13
Location: Swooden
Last Post: 25 days
Last Active: 11 days

(edited by Zlinqx on 05-28-16 06:32 AM)    

05-28-16 08:18 AM
ZeroTails is Offline
| ID: 1272146 | 154 Words

ZeroTails
Cool Davideo7
Level: 83


POSTS: 1184/2465
POST EXP: 215125
LVL EXP: 5413537
CP: 18783.7
VIZ: 392880

Likes: 1  Dislikes: 0
The dislike and like system was originally for differentiating the good posts from the bad. Problem is, if the post is bad or if there were multiple bad posts, a report post or PMing the Local's does the job just fine. People also click dislike just because they dislike or don't agree with the post, no matter how good the post may be, which means that the system isn't being used how it's intended. Why do you not agree with me? No answer? Oh, well then, that totally helps me know why people don't agree with me. I have a feeling that the dislike system also negatively affected the debate threads, since unpopular opinions are disliked and popular ones are liked, which does not help debates...

Basically, I'm all for removing the dislike system. People could always respond in the thread of why they disagree or report the post if it's breaking any rules.
The dislike and like system was originally for differentiating the good posts from the bad. Problem is, if the post is bad or if there were multiple bad posts, a report post or PMing the Local's does the job just fine. People also click dislike just because they dislike or don't agree with the post, no matter how good the post may be, which means that the system isn't being used how it's intended. Why do you not agree with me? No answer? Oh, well then, that totally helps me know why people don't agree with me. I have a feeling that the dislike system also negatively affected the debate threads, since unpopular opinions are disliked and popular ones are liked, which does not help debates...

Basically, I'm all for removing the dislike system. People could always respond in the thread of why they disagree or report the post if it's breaking any rules.
Vizzed Elite
Zt is dead


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 11-30-14
Location: depression land
Last Post: 68 days
Last Active: 68 days

Post Rating: 1   Liked By: Lexatom,

05-28-16 08:20 AM
Uzar is Offline
| ID: 1272147 | 77 Words

Uzar
A user of this
Level: 131


POSTS: 4447/6433
POST EXP: 345123
LVL EXP: 25806718
CP: 25820.4
VIZ: 545094

Likes: 1  Dislikes: 0
The dislike system kind f sucks. People use it to tear people apart in debate forums, and people go on "dislike crusades" as I like to call them; in which a user gets mad at another, and then goes on a disliking spree on all the posts of theirs.

Also, Galacta, Geeo, and Mags really hit my personal opinions on this system pretty dead on. Perhaps this is a thing we should look into in the future.
The dislike system kind f sucks. People use it to tear people apart in debate forums, and people go on "dislike crusades" as I like to call them; in which a user gets mad at another, and then goes on a disliking spree on all the posts of theirs.

Also, Galacta, Geeo, and Mags really hit my personal opinions on this system pretty dead on. Perhaps this is a thing we should look into in the future.
Vizzed Elite
I wonder what the character limit on this thing is.


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 06-03-13
Location: Airship Bostonius
Last Post: 429 days
Last Active: 400 days

Post Rating: 1   Liked By: Yuna1000,

05-28-16 08:37 AM
Sword Legion is Offline
| ID: 1272152 | 165 Words

Sword Legion
Sword legion
Sword egion
Level: 96


POSTS: 2808/3027
POST EXP: 698269
LVL EXP: 8734654
CP: 15836.0
VIZ: 110001

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Here's the thing about the dislike system that I don't like.

If you want to make a post in the debate forum that people do not like, they'll dislike it rather than debating it. If they don't like somebody's opinion, rather than actually addressing it, they feel as though mob rule and social pressure is the answer and a silent majority of thumbs can rule out the truth in any topic- just like that.

It's aggravating and counter productive. If people would just be kind, understand that there's no nice way to say some things, and respect other's more, then I think it would be a lot better. All the dislike system does is enable people who don't want to intellectually address issues.

Majority votes do not decide truth. Truth decides truth, and you have to find it. Staying in your own little ideological bubble won't bring it to the surface either! Give other people some credit and listen to what they have to say.
Here's the thing about the dislike system that I don't like.

If you want to make a post in the debate forum that people do not like, they'll dislike it rather than debating it. If they don't like somebody's opinion, rather than actually addressing it, they feel as though mob rule and social pressure is the answer and a silent majority of thumbs can rule out the truth in any topic- just like that.

It's aggravating and counter productive. If people would just be kind, understand that there's no nice way to say some things, and respect other's more, then I think it would be a lot better. All the dislike system does is enable people who don't want to intellectually address issues.

Majority votes do not decide truth. Truth decides truth, and you have to find it. Staying in your own little ideological bubble won't bring it to the surface either! Give other people some credit and listen to what they have to say.
Trusted Member
Dark knight of the blackened sun. I am Sword Legion, one of many. My mask is thick, and my armor is strong. All the more necessary in a world such as this. . .


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 09-27-12
Location: Faxanadu
Last Post: 10 days
Last Active: 9 hours

05-28-16 04:50 PM
tyranit is Offline
| ID: 1272210 | 59 Words

tyranit
Level: 75


POSTS: 1267/1597
POST EXP: 115746
LVL EXP: 3756386
CP: 9398.3
VIZ: 104230

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Honestly, the dislike button should be removed entirely, and just leave the like button. If you like the post, you agree with it without posting, whereas if you dislike the post, you should respond why you don't like it, so the like button only makes sense so we don't have a bunch of "I agree with (insert username here)!"
Honestly, the dislike button should be removed entirely, and just leave the like button. If you like the post, you agree with it without posting, whereas if you dislike the post, you should respond why you don't like it, so the like button only makes sense so we don't have a bunch of "I agree with (insert username here)!"
Trusted Member

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 10-14-10
Last Post: 175 days
Last Active: 175 days

05-28-16 08:26 PM
m0ssb3rg935 is Offline
| ID: 1272238 | 53 Words

m0ssb3rg935
m0ssb3rg935
Level: 102


POSTS: 611/3603
POST EXP: 282588
LVL EXP: 11000872
CP: 21359.4
VIZ: 329070

Likes: 1  Dislikes: 0
ZeroTails :
A user of this : You both forgot people who would dislike posts just because they have something personal against the person. I can't cite any examples, but I know there has to be at least a few.

Sword legion : I don't think I could've put that any better if I had to.
ZeroTails :
A user of this : You both forgot people who would dislike posts just because they have something personal against the person. I can't cite any examples, but I know there has to be at least a few.

Sword legion : I don't think I could've put that any better if I had to.
Global Moderator
Social Media Manager
Token Clueless Guy to Make Others Look Smarter


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 03-09-13
Location: Tennessee
Last Post: 6 days
Last Active: 6 days

Post Rating: 1   Liked By: deggle,

05-28-16 08:42 PM
mastergame is Offline
| ID: 1272242 | 51 Words

mastergame
Level: 49


POSTS: 357/596
POST EXP: 47888
LVL EXP: 877588
CP: 4293.5
VIZ: 216626

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
The dislike system is very confusing for newbie, there is no clear button that shows where to click. It might even be possible that they don't know about a dislike button in the first place. So yea remove it since it offers nothing to nobody and very few people see it.
The dislike system is very confusing for newbie, there is no clear button that shows where to click. It might even be possible that they don't know about a dislike button in the first place. So yea remove it since it offers nothing to nobody and very few people see it.
Trusted Member
royal battle gamer


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 04-24-10
Last Post: 361 days
Last Active: 270 days

05-28-16 09:19 PM
Eirinn is Offline
| ID: 1272254 | 278 Words

Eirinn
Level: 145


POSTS: 5672/7900
POST EXP: 1300417
LVL EXP: 37297597
CP: 69215.9
VIZ: 1826874

Likes: 2  Dislikes: 0
I don't see the problem with it personally. Like Yoshi said...who does it really hurt?

Somebody dislikes my post? There goes my post rating. Big deal, it does nothing anyway, right? Who has ever received a bonus (Viz, staff role, or otherwise) because of a high post rating?

As for abuse? ANYTHING David implements on the site can and will be abused. Look at CP, TP, Viz, Likes, Dislikes, and any other feature really. We can't say that features should be stripped if they're abused because heck, even the registration button is abused by reregs.

I like the Like and Dislike buttons because they give mature users a way of agreeing or disagreeing without starting a bunch of arguing via posts. Yeah immature people misuse it, but again, abuse happens with every feature.


Finally, if we remove dislikes then likes NEED To go as well. Why? It further enables abuse. If a user makes a post that's not against the rules but is just in general a very jerk thing to say, his equally impolite friends can upvote and he gets what apparently is perceived as a reward by some for acting that way, but there is no way to express disapproval equally without going off topic to say "Hey Eirinn, that was a jerk thing to say" and starting excessive drama at the same time.

I get the drama idea, but which is worse, disliking, or posting to say it was a bad attitude to have and then seeing five more users jump in and argue about it?


Anyway, that's just my two cents. I realize I could easily be wrong, but that's how I see it.
I don't see the problem with it personally. Like Yoshi said...who does it really hurt?

Somebody dislikes my post? There goes my post rating. Big deal, it does nothing anyway, right? Who has ever received a bonus (Viz, staff role, or otherwise) because of a high post rating?

As for abuse? ANYTHING David implements on the site can and will be abused. Look at CP, TP, Viz, Likes, Dislikes, and any other feature really. We can't say that features should be stripped if they're abused because heck, even the registration button is abused by reregs.

I like the Like and Dislike buttons because they give mature users a way of agreeing or disagreeing without starting a bunch of arguing via posts. Yeah immature people misuse it, but again, abuse happens with every feature.


Finally, if we remove dislikes then likes NEED To go as well. Why? It further enables abuse. If a user makes a post that's not against the rules but is just in general a very jerk thing to say, his equally impolite friends can upvote and he gets what apparently is perceived as a reward by some for acting that way, but there is no way to express disapproval equally without going off topic to say "Hey Eirinn, that was a jerk thing to say" and starting excessive drama at the same time.

I get the drama idea, but which is worse, disliking, or posting to say it was a bad attitude to have and then seeing five more users jump in and argue about it?


Anyway, that's just my two cents. I realize I could easily be wrong, but that's how I see it.
Vizzed Elite
Review Manager
Eirinn


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 07-18-12
Last Post: 582 days
Last Active: 582 days

(edited by Eirinn on 05-28-16 09:22 PM)     Post Rating: 2   Liked By: Furret, gamerforlifeforever,

05-29-16 12:50 PM
Zlinqx is Offline
| ID: 1272379 | 417 Words

Zlinqx
Zlinqx
Level: 112


POSTS: 2814/4562
POST EXP: 637733
LVL EXP: 15261816
CP: 51606.5
VIZ: 653801

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Eirinn : I don't see why likes would need to go. You still get cp and Viz for the likes even if your post is also disliked. So it doesn't actually change what you gain. In the end the like system is entirely subjective so we shouldn't tell people what they can and cannot like unless it's getting to a very extreme point. Either way it's not going to negatively affect anyone. It can even serve to encourage people to post who may feel uncertain about doing so. All the dislikes do is lower your post rating so it's not taking away the reward they would gain. If a member is making bad posts to the point where they should be punished for their attitude there are other ways to do that like local+ warning them directly or taking away trust points if need be. A post doesn't need to have a -5 post rating for people to understand that it's a bad post.

The thing with the dislike system is that unlike all the other features it doesn't actually add anything positive to the site. All it does is discourage people who want to have a discussion from posting for fear that people will dislike their post. It does not make them understand what it is that caused people to dislike it. Now it also causes more drama since some people below local mod rank can see exactly who dislike their posts and then decide to act on that. Some even go on sprees where they dislike posts of users not because of the post itself but the user in question. It goes entirely against what I would say a forum is about. ENCOURAGING  discussion, not discouraging it. Sure you can use it to dislike obvious troll posts but those people likely already know their posts are going to get dislikes and simple things like their post rating being lowered isn't going to change their mind about how they're acting.

As for the last example you gave I don't think we'd really notice a signficant increase in people replying to posts trying to start arguments. A lot of times people dislike post simply because they either don't want to address it or don't know how to. Which I personally think is a more immature way of handling it if the person was serious in their post unless you also took the time and say why you disagree with it.

That's the way I see it anyway. 
Eirinn : I don't see why likes would need to go. You still get cp and Viz for the likes even if your post is also disliked. So it doesn't actually change what you gain. In the end the like system is entirely subjective so we shouldn't tell people what they can and cannot like unless it's getting to a very extreme point. Either way it's not going to negatively affect anyone. It can even serve to encourage people to post who may feel uncertain about doing so. All the dislikes do is lower your post rating so it's not taking away the reward they would gain. If a member is making bad posts to the point where they should be punished for their attitude there are other ways to do that like local+ warning them directly or taking away trust points if need be. A post doesn't need to have a -5 post rating for people to understand that it's a bad post.

The thing with the dislike system is that unlike all the other features it doesn't actually add anything positive to the site. All it does is discourage people who want to have a discussion from posting for fear that people will dislike their post. It does not make them understand what it is that caused people to dislike it. Now it also causes more drama since some people below local mod rank can see exactly who dislike their posts and then decide to act on that. Some even go on sprees where they dislike posts of users not because of the post itself but the user in question. It goes entirely against what I would say a forum is about. ENCOURAGING  discussion, not discouraging it. Sure you can use it to dislike obvious troll posts but those people likely already know their posts are going to get dislikes and simple things like their post rating being lowered isn't going to change their mind about how they're acting.

As for the last example you gave I don't think we'd really notice a signficant increase in people replying to posts trying to start arguments. A lot of times people dislike post simply because they either don't want to address it or don't know how to. Which I personally think is a more immature way of handling it if the person was serious in their post unless you also took the time and say why you disagree with it.

That's the way I see it anyway. 
Vizzed Elite

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 07-21-13
Location: Swooden
Last Post: 25 days
Last Active: 11 days

(edited by Zlinqx on 05-29-16 01:02 PM)    

05-29-16 05:37 PM
Eirinn is Offline
| ID: 1272431 | 213 Words

Eirinn
Level: 145


POSTS: 5676/7900
POST EXP: 1300417
LVL EXP: 37297597
CP: 69215.9
VIZ: 1826874

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Zlinqx : Well that's actually my point. Only the less mature users would get upset over dislikes. Those who realize that not everyone they meet (especially online) is going to like or agree with them aren't bothered by getting a dislike. Should we decide that because some users can't grasp that, that those who appreciate the feature should "be punished" by the removal of it?

And the whole thing smells like the political correctness of pluralism : nobody's wrong. I mean, why is it so bad to see that some people just don't like your opinion? Why only positive feedback? I guess I like the system for both likes and dislikes because then every side has a voice, and not just the "atta boy" voices. If we offer recognition for good, why not allow the acknowledging of bad?


I'm just saying it allows freedom of expression, and frankly there aren't many places left in the world where having your own opinion or expression is tolerated. I like that it is on Vizzed.

Also I want to make this clear: I'm about to make a thread about people being pressured to act like something they aren't by society etc. That thread will be in no way related to this (that would just be silly).
Zlinqx : Well that's actually my point. Only the less mature users would get upset over dislikes. Those who realize that not everyone they meet (especially online) is going to like or agree with them aren't bothered by getting a dislike. Should we decide that because some users can't grasp that, that those who appreciate the feature should "be punished" by the removal of it?

And the whole thing smells like the political correctness of pluralism : nobody's wrong. I mean, why is it so bad to see that some people just don't like your opinion? Why only positive feedback? I guess I like the system for both likes and dislikes because then every side has a voice, and not just the "atta boy" voices. If we offer recognition for good, why not allow the acknowledging of bad?


I'm just saying it allows freedom of expression, and frankly there aren't many places left in the world where having your own opinion or expression is tolerated. I like that it is on Vizzed.

Also I want to make this clear: I'm about to make a thread about people being pressured to act like something they aren't by society etc. That thread will be in no way related to this (that would just be silly).
Vizzed Elite
Review Manager
Eirinn


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 07-18-12
Last Post: 582 days
Last Active: 582 days

(edited by Eirinn on 05-29-16 05:39 PM)    

05-29-16 05:50 PM
Zlinqx is Offline
| ID: 1272434 | 258 Words

Zlinqx
Zlinqx
Level: 112


POSTS: 2821/4562
POST EXP: 637733
LVL EXP: 15261816
CP: 51606.5
VIZ: 653801

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Eirinn : To give in to political correctness would be to censor people expressing unpopular opinions. I do agree that getting maybe 1 dislike on a post is a petty thing to be upset about. But I can understand people getting upset when there are users who go out of their way to dislike the posts of another user because they dislike the user or when a post gets a ton of dislikes simply because it expresses an unpopular opinion. It seems counter productive feature when all it does is discourage people from posting and breed drama and more users seem to want it gone than not. To allow users to be punished in the form of their post rating and getting a bad reputation because of that would seem more like giving in to political correctness. Either resulting in people who hold more unpopular opinions simply keeping quiet about it or being punished through their post rating with a bad reputation.

In the same way I'd ask why do people feel the need to have a dislike button to press simply because they disagree with a user? Nobody is forcing them to agree with the post. To punish them in some way simply because they don't like/agree with  their opinion? That if anything would seem immature to me. It's fine to respectfully disagree and pay the post no mind. Or through taking the time to respond to the post which would at least help give the other person an understanding of why you disagree without punishing them.

Eirinn : To give in to political correctness would be to censor people expressing unpopular opinions. I do agree that getting maybe 1 dislike on a post is a petty thing to be upset about. But I can understand people getting upset when there are users who go out of their way to dislike the posts of another user because they dislike the user or when a post gets a ton of dislikes simply because it expresses an unpopular opinion. It seems counter productive feature when all it does is discourage people from posting and breed drama and more users seem to want it gone than not. To allow users to be punished in the form of their post rating and getting a bad reputation because of that would seem more like giving in to political correctness. Either resulting in people who hold more unpopular opinions simply keeping quiet about it or being punished through their post rating with a bad reputation.

In the same way I'd ask why do people feel the need to have a dislike button to press simply because they disagree with a user? Nobody is forcing them to agree with the post. To punish them in some way simply because they don't like/agree with  their opinion? That if anything would seem immature to me. It's fine to respectfully disagree and pay the post no mind. Or through taking the time to respond to the post which would at least help give the other person an understanding of why you disagree without punishing them.

Vizzed Elite

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 07-21-13
Location: Swooden
Last Post: 25 days
Last Active: 11 days

(edited by Zlinqx on 05-29-16 05:55 PM)    

05-30-16 08:03 AM
Spicy is Offline
| ID: 1272518 | 81 Words

Spicy
imamonster
Level: 96


POSTS: 2827/3058
POST EXP: 192542
LVL EXP: 8712727
CP: 11807.7
VIZ: 19364

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
kinda right in the middle about this ''issue''

In the end, does it really matter? Sure people that have a problem with you will go on a dislike rampage sometimes. But I don't see what the big issue is. It can be abused, but why care if someone does? Generally it are no name users that just got triggered when they saw something they didn't like.

It can be abused, but in the end it isn't a big issue at all.
kinda right in the middle about this ''issue''

In the end, does it really matter? Sure people that have a problem with you will go on a dislike rampage sometimes. But I don't see what the big issue is. It can be abused, but why care if someone does? Generally it are no name users that just got triggered when they saw something they didn't like.

It can be abused, but in the end it isn't a big issue at all.
Trusted Member

Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 01-01-13
Last Post: 1049 days
Last Active: 735 days

05-30-16 02:50 PM
Eniitan is Offline
| ID: 1272571 | 226 Words

Eniitan
Level: 164


POSTS: 4760/10491
POST EXP: 957018
LVL EXP: 56786622
CP: 54602.7
VIZ: 2558862

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
I don't really need to say much about it since well great gramps and some others have hit points I would had already said. There are people who also dislike positive posts for no reason.....I don't think anyone has seen that? I've told a few friends about this and they were just as surprised as I am. I also took a look at to see if it happened to anyone else and it does. I can understand someone disliking an opinion of mine and summoning me saying why. But the one that baffles me the most is when someone or some people actually dislike threads about kind things for friends or other things as well. It kinda shows how petty that is. As grandfather said and I quote people also dislike peoples posts or threads due to personal reasons. Which...shouldn't be the point of doing that to the person.

Not only that. Others now troll other people by using it as someone said to get other members mad for no reason. Its really sad how the dislike system can cause such a trouble. But if people are civil using the button well, then there wouldn't be as much drama going on to do with it. I've already spoke to some others about this in the past. Its up to David if he removes it or not. 
I don't really need to say much about it since well great gramps and some others have hit points I would had already said. There are people who also dislike positive posts for no reason.....I don't think anyone has seen that? I've told a few friends about this and they were just as surprised as I am. I also took a look at to see if it happened to anyone else and it does. I can understand someone disliking an opinion of mine and summoning me saying why. But the one that baffles me the most is when someone or some people actually dislike threads about kind things for friends or other things as well. It kinda shows how petty that is. As grandfather said and I quote people also dislike peoples posts or threads due to personal reasons. Which...shouldn't be the point of doing that to the person.

Not only that. Others now troll other people by using it as someone said to get other members mad for no reason. Its really sad how the dislike system can cause such a trouble. But if people are civil using the button well, then there wouldn't be as much drama going on to do with it. I've already spoke to some others about this in the past. Its up to David if he removes it or not. 
Local Moderator
RGR Streamer
Number 1 Sailor Moon, Final Fantasy And Freedom Planet Fan On Vizzed!


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 08-16-12
Last Post: 2 days
Last Active: 8 hours

06-05-16 11:23 AM
janus is Offline
| ID: 1273933 | 40 Words

janus
Level: 116

POSTS: 4294/4761
POST EXP: 561477
LVL EXP: 16982359
CP: 57390.8
VIZ: 4360031

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 1
Galacta : If anything, I think the dislikes are rather amusing. Some of my reviews have earned dislikes/ 1 ratings for nothing more than "butthurts." It doesn't affect membership levels nor does it penalize someone that accumulate too many of them.
Galacta : If anything, I think the dislikes are rather amusing. Some of my reviews have earned dislikes/ 1 ratings for nothing more than "butthurts." It doesn't affect membership levels nor does it penalize someone that accumulate too many of them.
Vizzed Elite
The unknown


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 12-14-12
Last Post: 189 days
Last Active: 7 hours

Links