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What would happen if people could select their baby's gender?

 

11-22-14 05:48 PM
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Imagine you had the choice to select the gender of your baby.  Everyone has to make the pick.  You can't just flip a coin.

What percentage would be female vs. male?  What do you guys think?
Imagine you had the choice to select the gender of your baby.  Everyone has to make the pick.  You can't just flip a coin.

What percentage would be female vs. male?  What do you guys think?
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If people could choose the gender of their child, I would have been born a girl, and none of my younger siblings would have been born. (Hell, I myself wouldn't have likely been born, although she didn't get to keep my older brother, so it's plausible I would be)

The entire reason my mom ever wanted a child when she was a teenager was so she could have a daughter.

My mom had 4 boys, my older brother who had to be given up because she was a high schooler, me, my younger brother who had to be given up because she couldn't handle two children, and my other younger brother.

Then she had a girl, and promptly got her tubes tied so she wouldn't have any more kids.

So in my case, my mom would have burned the ratio even more in the girls favor, since the world would have lost 4 guys.
If people could choose the gender of their child, I would have been born a girl, and none of my younger siblings would have been born. (Hell, I myself wouldn't have likely been born, although she didn't get to keep my older brother, so it's plausible I would be)

The entire reason my mom ever wanted a child when she was a teenager was so she could have a daughter.

My mom had 4 boys, my older brother who had to be given up because she was a high schooler, me, my younger brother who had to be given up because she couldn't handle two children, and my other younger brother.

Then she had a girl, and promptly got her tubes tied so she wouldn't have any more kids.

So in my case, my mom would have burned the ratio even more in the girls favor, since the world would have lost 4 guys.
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I think this is an absolutely lovely question, honestly!  I was hoping to see more responses before I offer my own opinion, but I think I've waited long enough. haha!

If... for whatever reason... society was suddenly plummeted into the necessity of CHOOSING their child's gender, I believe most families would end up with little girls.  Women are typically more emotional than men, and most women (I believe), want little girls to dress up and raise.  Plus, I think most people view girls as the easier sex to raise.  Since women tend to want children more often than men, it just makes sense to me that the odds would be on the feminine side.

From a purely biological standpoint, it'd make more sense to be over laden with females, right?

(It's interesting that you brought this up, because I was thinking over a similar topic this past week, although I'm not brave enough to open it up for debate. ha!)
I think this is an absolutely lovely question, honestly!  I was hoping to see more responses before I offer my own opinion, but I think I've waited long enough. haha!

If... for whatever reason... society was suddenly plummeted into the necessity of CHOOSING their child's gender, I believe most families would end up with little girls.  Women are typically more emotional than men, and most women (I believe), want little girls to dress up and raise.  Plus, I think most people view girls as the easier sex to raise.  Since women tend to want children more often than men, it just makes sense to me that the odds would be on the feminine side.

From a purely biological standpoint, it'd make more sense to be over laden with females, right?

(It's interesting that you brought this up, because I was thinking over a similar topic this past week, although I'm not brave enough to open it up for debate. ha!)
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I'm sorry to hear that, dude

I think the fertility rate would drop to the bottom because this matter can cause some serious damage to the family if the parents can't come to a mutual conclusion...
Even if they did come to a conclusion it could still bring about the end of humanity as we know it, a human wasn't destined to be the judge of his (hers) offspring's gender, we just haven't advanced that far yet...
As interesting as this idea may seem, tampering with it can drastically shake the course of history.
Still, thanks for bringing this subject up, It gives people something to think about

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I'm sorry to hear that, dude

I think the fertility rate would drop to the bottom because this matter can cause some serious damage to the family if the parents can't come to a mutual conclusion...
Even if they did come to a conclusion it could still bring about the end of humanity as we know it, a human wasn't destined to be the judge of his (hers) offspring's gender, we just haven't advanced that far yet...
As interesting as this idea may seem, tampering with it can drastically shake the course of history.
Still, thanks for bringing this subject up, It gives people something to think about

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warmaker :

Well, the population naturally tends to balance out at 100 males to 104 females.


I would try and keep this balance myself, having half male, half female if I had to choose my child's gender. But in the end, I don't think that it's for us to choose, and I dislike the way science is coming closer to manipulating a child's genes. It makes them more into. . . well, a product other than special individuals. I mean, I can't really put it into words, and if I thought about it, then maybe I would be able too. But that is what I feel.


Maybe it's this.

The love that parents show their child is not based on what they want out their child upon birth, but rather the love that they put into him or her after birth, to make him, or her into the best individual that they possibly can. Irregardless of what they end up with. Isn't that what unconditional love is?

I know that people may argue, "Think of like choosing your child's clothes, it's just one aspect, and it doesn't mean that you don't love them unconditionally, right?"

And I would agree, but what if making a male child a female instead causes mess ups in other parts of the genes? I'm almost certain some sort of problem would come of it. I have no idea though.


What if me making this change hurt who that person was originally going to be though?

I don't know. I just want to leave it up to Yahova, or Nature. I don't need to mess with it.




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Well, the population naturally tends to balance out at 100 males to 104 females.


I would try and keep this balance myself, having half male, half female if I had to choose my child's gender. But in the end, I don't think that it's for us to choose, and I dislike the way science is coming closer to manipulating a child's genes. It makes them more into. . . well, a product other than special individuals. I mean, I can't really put it into words, and if I thought about it, then maybe I would be able too. But that is what I feel.


Maybe it's this.

The love that parents show their child is not based on what they want out their child upon birth, but rather the love that they put into him or her after birth, to make him, or her into the best individual that they possibly can. Irregardless of what they end up with. Isn't that what unconditional love is?

I know that people may argue, "Think of like choosing your child's clothes, it's just one aspect, and it doesn't mean that you don't love them unconditionally, right?"

And I would agree, but what if making a male child a female instead causes mess ups in other parts of the genes? I'm almost certain some sort of problem would come of it. I have no idea though.


What if me making this change hurt who that person was originally going to be though?

I don't know. I just want to leave it up to Yahova, or Nature. I don't need to mess with it.




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I think its fairely evident more men would be born. At least in 3rd and 2nd world nations.
For many people, skilled work is not a possibility, not enough money, not enough teachers, not enough jobs.
China has a one child policy.
China has a mostly unskilled workforce.
China has a lot of abandonment because famillys are in hot water if they have more than one child.
China has a disproportianetly large number of female orphans.

Men are stronger, dont stop working due to pregnancy, and in china the brides father pays the wedding costs, and the bride lives with the grooms family, so no return on your 'investment'.

1st world nations are a minority so more men.
In 1st world countrys I imagine people would have 1 of each. Most men want a son, I think most women want daughters. Since we have equality, I suppose settling in the middle is likely.
id say for the world, about 60:40 for males. Perhaps higher if its only 1 kid per familly.
I think its fairely evident more men would be born. At least in 3rd and 2nd world nations.
For many people, skilled work is not a possibility, not enough money, not enough teachers, not enough jobs.
China has a one child policy.
China has a mostly unskilled workforce.
China has a lot of abandonment because famillys are in hot water if they have more than one child.
China has a disproportianetly large number of female orphans.

Men are stronger, dont stop working due to pregnancy, and in china the brides father pays the wedding costs, and the bride lives with the grooms family, so no return on your 'investment'.

1st world nations are a minority so more men.
In 1st world countrys I imagine people would have 1 of each. Most men want a son, I think most women want daughters. Since we have equality, I suppose settling in the middle is likely.
id say for the world, about 60:40 for males. Perhaps higher if its only 1 kid per familly.
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thenumberone :  I never really thought about it that way.  That's actually a pretty interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!
thenumberone :  I never really thought about it that way.  That's actually a pretty interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!
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I'd choose a baby, cute girl!
I've wanted a baby girl since I was 11!
But Thenumberone has a pretty good point.

But this is what I think would happen:
When someone was supposed to bena girly girl, and if her parents choosed to get a boy... He'd have the same brain as the girl, and he is a girly boy. He'd hate being male, he could become transgendered. (Omg now that I think of it... I'm lucky to be a boy... But meh)
I think the world would be VERY different. Too different. All people are different, the country's are named different, other kings and presidents... It would be way different.
We all would never have existed – unless your family kept doing the right genders as right now –, Vizzed wouldn't have existed...
So basically I think it is unknown what would happen with this new universal.

If we were allowed to do just since 2014-2015, then Thenumberone has a good point. :3
I'd choose a baby, cute girl!
I've wanted a baby girl since I was 11!
But Thenumberone has a pretty good point.

But this is what I think would happen:
When someone was supposed to bena girly girl, and if her parents choosed to get a boy... He'd have the same brain as the girl, and he is a girly boy. He'd hate being male, he could become transgendered. (Omg now that I think of it... I'm lucky to be a boy... But meh)
I think the world would be VERY different. Too different. All people are different, the country's are named different, other kings and presidents... It would be way different.
We all would never have existed – unless your family kept doing the right genders as right now –, Vizzed wouldn't have existed...
So basically I think it is unknown what would happen with this new universal.

If we were allowed to do just since 2014-2015, then Thenumberone has a good point. :3
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I don't think ratios would change all that much. If one gender became more prevalent over another, people would start choosing the other gender as it would be more prized in society.

Also traditions would change, as would society as a whole to accommodate this.

In third world countries, I doubt the technology to choose the gender would be widely available, so it would be random. But if -anyone- could choose, I think those countries would indeed choose more males, like thenumberone suggested.

In other words, I feel like when science manages to make this a possibility, it will work out okay, as most who get to "choose" would have a certain level of financial stability.

But if anyone got to "choose" just like that, it might lean towards more males.
I don't think ratios would change all that much. If one gender became more prevalent over another, people would start choosing the other gender as it would be more prized in society.

Also traditions would change, as would society as a whole to accommodate this.

In third world countries, I doubt the technology to choose the gender would be widely available, so it would be random. But if -anyone- could choose, I think those countries would indeed choose more males, like thenumberone suggested.

In other words, I feel like when science manages to make this a possibility, it will work out okay, as most who get to "choose" would have a certain level of financial stability.

But if anyone got to "choose" just like that, it might lean towards more males.
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I think more people would choose to have a boy because when the boy grows up, he can perform many more tasks and he can have a job which could really help the family in times of trouble. Many people would probably also like to have a boy because they've been told boys are easier to parent than girls. Think about what would happen then... You've got an over population of boys that have no one to date. Then there are no girls for the boys to choose from so there'd be a lot of fighting over girls and a lot of cheating going on. I would not like to think that there would be a lot of babies who no one would know the father of, but that's probably what would happen. Well, there'd be complete and utter chaos.

If I was given the choice to choose my baby's gender, I'd choose to have it be random. Not knowing the gender of your baby gives the feeling of surprise most people want. Some people are disappointed when they find out what gender their baby is going to be since they wanted the other gender, but the feeling of surprise is something you shouldn't take away from parents. Then again, in the future, they'll probably be able to tell the gender of the baby the second a lady knows she is pregnant. I wouldn't like to think of this happening just because, again, it would take away the surprise feeling a person gets when they find out the gender of their baby.
I think more people would choose to have a boy because when the boy grows up, he can perform many more tasks and he can have a job which could really help the family in times of trouble. Many people would probably also like to have a boy because they've been told boys are easier to parent than girls. Think about what would happen then... You've got an over population of boys that have no one to date. Then there are no girls for the boys to choose from so there'd be a lot of fighting over girls and a lot of cheating going on. I would not like to think that there would be a lot of babies who no one would know the father of, but that's probably what would happen. Well, there'd be complete and utter chaos.

If I was given the choice to choose my baby's gender, I'd choose to have it be random. Not knowing the gender of your baby gives the feeling of surprise most people want. Some people are disappointed when they find out what gender their baby is going to be since they wanted the other gender, but the feeling of surprise is something you shouldn't take away from parents. Then again, in the future, they'll probably be able to tell the gender of the baby the second a lady knows she is pregnant. I wouldn't like to think of this happening just because, again, it would take away the surprise feeling a person gets when they find out the gender of their baby.
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I think that having that possibility would be a bad idea. I mean, think about for a moment. If people decided to choose what gender their child was, I agree with everybody else: There would be more women than men. You get far enough down the line, and eventually, women are going to overtake men to the extreme. Eventually, women will fight for the right to men so they can impregnate them. Eventually, this will be an issue, and in time, the human race will cease to exist. 

So I think that parents being able to choose their child's gender is a bad idea! 
I think that having that possibility would be a bad idea. I mean, think about for a moment. If people decided to choose what gender their child was, I agree with everybody else: There would be more women than men. You get far enough down the line, and eventually, women are going to overtake men to the extreme. Eventually, women will fight for the right to men so they can impregnate them. Eventually, this will be an issue, and in time, the human race will cease to exist. 

So I think that parents being able to choose their child's gender is a bad idea! 
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thing1 : I agree with you 100% having the possibility of being able to select a baby's gender would be a terrible idea and eventually yes 1 side would eventually dominate the other and the human race would go extinct. However I don't know which side would dominate and frankly I don't want to know.
thing1 : I agree with you 100% having the possibility of being able to select a baby's gender would be a terrible idea and eventually yes 1 side would eventually dominate the other and the human race would go extinct. However I don't know which side would dominate and frankly I don't want to know.
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If there was a choice of what gender you want to have for your kid, it's going to be like naming your kid because they will be stuck with it for the rest of their life. Although I do agree with Thing with this one, it won't really be a good idea to have a pick, because it can be more uneven because even know, yeah, the chances to get a male over a female is a tiny bit, but really, not a whole lot.

Although if I do have a pick on what gender I would have for my kid, I would more likely be a boy.
If there was a choice of what gender you want to have for your kid, it's going to be like naming your kid because they will be stuck with it for the rest of their life. Although I do agree with Thing with this one, it won't really be a good idea to have a pick, because it can be more uneven because even know, yeah, the chances to get a male over a female is a tiny bit, but really, not a whole lot.

Although if I do have a pick on what gender I would have for my kid, I would more likely be a boy.
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Although it would certainly diminish sex-specific abortions, it would merely make the gender bias stronger in certain countries (China, Muslim countries). In such countries, there would most likely be at least 60-40 for males. On the bright side, with fewer women maybe their rights will be better protected...
Although it would certainly diminish sex-specific abortions, it would merely make the gender bias stronger in certain countries (China, Muslim countries). In such countries, there would most likely be at least 60-40 for males. On the bright side, with fewer women maybe their rights will be better protected...
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It would definitely be an interesting scenario. I'd imagine that developing countries would definitely have a larger proportion of males compared to females, a situation that is already exemplified in emerging nations such as China. In developed nations, i'd think that proportions of new borns of either gender would remain fairly even. Generally, i'd think that couples would want to give birth to a daughter and a male, but idk. Overall, global statistics would show a greater proportion of males, imo.
It would definitely be an interesting scenario. I'd imagine that developing countries would definitely have a larger proportion of males compared to females, a situation that is already exemplified in emerging nations such as China. In developed nations, i'd think that proportions of new borns of either gender would remain fairly even. Generally, i'd think that couples would want to give birth to a daughter and a male, but idk. Overall, global statistics would show a greater proportion of males, imo.
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warmaker :
I think Whatever Gender is Cheaper for the Parents will dominate the population.

Just My 2 cents.

What Gender tends to move out at a younger age may be a top winner.

I have not read the other Posts Yet. (I am interested in this one.)

I'll see if anyone guessed the same as I did.
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I think Whatever Gender is Cheaper for the Parents will dominate the population.

Just My 2 cents.

What Gender tends to move out at a younger age may be a top winner.

I have not read the other Posts Yet. (I am interested in this one.)

I'll see if anyone guessed the same as I did.
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awesome question i don't know what i would do if i was in that position i can't even imagine having that conversation with the babies father and also think about all the people that decide to give it up for adoption as soon as it's born who would pick then

as for the percentage part i have no idea thats a tuff one
awesome question i don't know what i would do if i was in that position i can't even imagine having that conversation with the babies father and also think about all the people that decide to give it up for adoption as soon as it's born who would pick then

as for the percentage part i have no idea thats a tuff one
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 First of all, I doubt that there would be an accidental trans gendered babies being born because of the discrimination the majority of the world holds against them, so there is that;  China would slowly begin to depopulate while it's military might would gradually increase because of the overabundance of males being born, then the Americas would have too many women because of the standard of sexual appeal and mens need to be more important than everyone, so the less competition the better.

  In the end, I imagine everything would begin to balance itself out, only to become another government controlled part of our lives where you must birth what they want you to birth in order to protect the Human species.'

  So yeah, that's my take on the whole shebang.
 First of all, I doubt that there would be an accidental trans gendered babies being born because of the discrimination the majority of the world holds against them, so there is that;  China would slowly begin to depopulate while it's military might would gradually increase because of the overabundance of males being born, then the Americas would have too many women because of the standard of sexual appeal and mens need to be more important than everyone, so the less competition the better.

  In the end, I imagine everything would begin to balance itself out, only to become another government controlled part of our lives where you must birth what they want you to birth in order to protect the Human species.'

  So yeah, that's my take on the whole shebang.
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Well, I would say you'd start seeing a lot more men. The reason I say that is because in many cultures, the males continue the family line and take care of the parents; plus, in some cultures, marrying off a daughter costs a dowry. For some families, that could be a lot to pay (and according to the DTM, most population growth is in poorer countries). Already you can see a male preference in places like south Asia and China. However, these countries would suddenly experience a loss in population from too many males and not enough females. In America and countries farther along the DTM, however, I think that they'd be more likely to pick females for emotional reasons (like Singelli said).

But I may be overthinking things.
Well, I would say you'd start seeing a lot more men. The reason I say that is because in many cultures, the males continue the family line and take care of the parents; plus, in some cultures, marrying off a daughter costs a dowry. For some families, that could be a lot to pay (and according to the DTM, most population growth is in poorer countries). Already you can see a male preference in places like south Asia and China. However, these countries would suddenly experience a loss in population from too many males and not enough females. In America and countries farther along the DTM, however, I think that they'd be more likely to pick females for emotional reasons (like Singelli said).

But I may be overthinking things.
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Depends on where said person is living. If it's in 1st world nation like say the U.S I think the number would be closer to 50:50 since some people want boys and some girls. Myself  if I someday had kids I'd rather not want to decide it but if I had to I'd probably have one boy and one girl. Though some people might factor statistics or their experiences into the equation like how studies have shown girl often do better in school where I live.

In 2nd and 3rd world nations like say India and China you'd probably see more people want boys than girls. In those countries, men are typically the provider and often helps out their parents when their older, men are considered stronger and in some nations women who work are looked down upon for cultural or religious reasons. Something that might also affects things is China 's one child policy considering people already are killing babies simply for being born a girl over there.

I'd expect this would cause there to be way more boys then girls in these countries after a few years which would cause several issues and cause the population growth to decline. Not to mention all the issues it would create in society.

I'd expect it probably wouldn't take too long until the government took control of it and forced you to have a baby of a certain gender, and not doing so would probably result in some kind of punishment and possibly if the gender of people in a nation starting becoming balanced out, just forbidding the use of whatever technique that allows you to do so in the first place.

Moral of the story: People should not have the power of choosing the gender of their baby.

Though the whole thing seems kind of weird considering one of the parents might want a boy and the other a girl. Would that mean that what it ends up becoming is random? Or it could cause people to be born transgender or even somehow cause damage to the fetus, resulting in much more people being born transgender or even dead. Or would the woman get to decide probably causing more girls to be born in 1st world countries since I'd imagine most women would rather want a girl if they could decide.

Either way it's a surprisingly interesting question when you really think about it.
Depends on where said person is living. If it's in 1st world nation like say the U.S I think the number would be closer to 50:50 since some people want boys and some girls. Myself  if I someday had kids I'd rather not want to decide it but if I had to I'd probably have one boy and one girl. Though some people might factor statistics or their experiences into the equation like how studies have shown girl often do better in school where I live.

In 2nd and 3rd world nations like say India and China you'd probably see more people want boys than girls. In those countries, men are typically the provider and often helps out their parents when their older, men are considered stronger and in some nations women who work are looked down upon for cultural or religious reasons. Something that might also affects things is China 's one child policy considering people already are killing babies simply for being born a girl over there.

I'd expect this would cause there to be way more boys then girls in these countries after a few years which would cause several issues and cause the population growth to decline. Not to mention all the issues it would create in society.

I'd expect it probably wouldn't take too long until the government took control of it and forced you to have a baby of a certain gender, and not doing so would probably result in some kind of punishment and possibly if the gender of people in a nation starting becoming balanced out, just forbidding the use of whatever technique that allows you to do so in the first place.

Moral of the story: People should not have the power of choosing the gender of their baby.

Though the whole thing seems kind of weird considering one of the parents might want a boy and the other a girl. Would that mean that what it ends up becoming is random? Or it could cause people to be born transgender or even somehow cause damage to the fetus, resulting in much more people being born transgender or even dead. Or would the woman get to decide probably causing more girls to be born in 1st world countries since I'd imagine most women would rather want a girl if they could decide.

Either way it's a surprisingly interesting question when you really think about it.
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