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Joe Biden Wants To Tax All Violent Video Games???

 

05-16-13 01:38 PM
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17 hours ago a "Nerd News" Youtube reporter by the Name of "The Alpha Omega Sin". Reports a new story that I can not believe.
Supposedly "Biden" is of the notion that recent crimes in the American Nation are supposedly caused by video games and now wants to tax them.
What Fool Thinks that Games Cause Problems?
What Fool Decides to tax them? (If they were a problem then remove them.)
Who put this guy in charge of such a subject?
We need Laws to fight crime.
We need Police and Legal Professionals to fight crime.
Not new taxes.

Someone tell me this is not a Final Thing that is going to drive the price of games even higher.
Or worse.
Create more crappy games.
Someone say something sane.
I really can not take the news.

I already switched to decaf. I should not be inclined to hit my 80 lbs bag after checking the news.

Will this abuse of dumb behaviour ever end?
Someone Fire this Loon called "Biden". I have heard enough.
Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.
17 hours ago a "Nerd News" Youtube reporter by the Name of "The Alpha Omega Sin". Reports a new story that I can not believe.
Supposedly "Biden" is of the notion that recent crimes in the American Nation are supposedly caused by video games and now wants to tax them.
What Fool Thinks that Games Cause Problems?
What Fool Decides to tax them? (If they were a problem then remove them.)
Who put this guy in charge of such a subject?
We need Laws to fight crime.
We need Police and Legal Professionals to fight crime.
Not new taxes.

Someone tell me this is not a Final Thing that is going to drive the price of games even higher.
Or worse.
Create more crappy games.
Someone say something sane.
I really can not take the news.

I already switched to decaf. I should not be inclined to hit my 80 lbs bag after checking the news.

Will this abuse of dumb behaviour ever end?
Someone Fire this Loon called "Biden". I have heard enough.
Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.
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It most likely won't happen they have tried it before and none of them have ever been passed 
It most likely won't happen they have tried it before and none of them have ever been passed 
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It won't happen. They tried to censor internet, and when they couldn't, they tried to tax it, and it did not work. So now... this won't work, either. Nice try Biden.
It won't happen. They tried to censor internet, and when they couldn't, they tried to tax it, and it did not work. So now... this won't work, either. Nice try Biden.
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Long story short, people are going to continue to blame video games for our lives and our choices... when really, it's not video games that change who we are... it's our lack of discipline that changes who we are.

In general, people should be responsible for their OWN lives yet at the same time... parents should know better than to let their child play that kind of game in the first place.

Rather than everyone doing the blame-game, it would just be better if people took responsibility for their own actions... rather than blaming their problems on everything else.

So yeah, Joe Biden is going to try and pass some kind of tax... nobody will really give a dang, and we'll still have violent video games.
Long story short, people are going to continue to blame video games for our lives and our choices... when really, it's not video games that change who we are... it's our lack of discipline that changes who we are.

In general, people should be responsible for their OWN lives yet at the same time... parents should know better than to let their child play that kind of game in the first place.

Rather than everyone doing the blame-game, it would just be better if people took responsibility for their own actions... rather than blaming their problems on everything else.

So yeah, Joe Biden is going to try and pass some kind of tax... nobody will really give a dang, and we'll still have violent video games.
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I like this idea a lot. I think it will teach kids a lesson not to go out and blow $60 on a crappy game and instead use the money for something better like food or shelter.  This will also teach kids a lesson not to vote liberal.

You can either blame Biden for this or you can blame gaming companies for over pricing their merchandise.

But in reality you should blame yourself for spending such absurd amounts of cash on entertainment when there is plenty of free entertainment available on sites like this.
I like this idea a lot. I think it will teach kids a lesson not to go out and blow $60 on a crappy game and instead use the money for something better like food or shelter.  This will also teach kids a lesson not to vote liberal.

You can either blame Biden for this or you can blame gaming companies for over pricing their merchandise.

But in reality you should blame yourself for spending such absurd amounts of cash on entertainment when there is plenty of free entertainment available on sites like this.
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JigSaw : Wow, I believe your answer is actually the best one. Like seriously, if you want to play these games... just play them on your computer for FREE, and spend money for like... the controller adapter or something.

But then again, not every kid has a computer... so that's kind of iffy in the first place.
JigSaw : Wow, I believe your answer is actually the best one. Like seriously, if you want to play these games... just play them on your computer for FREE, and spend money for like... the controller adapter or something.

But then again, not every kid has a computer... so that's kind of iffy in the first place.
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Sorry, but kids have a voice. However, i kind of support this, unless the use the term "violent" VERY, VERY loosely, taxing all games with violence, catching my Fire Emblem and Pokemon along with parent terrorizers such as Doom, Call of Duty and HALO.
Sorry, but kids have a voice. However, i kind of support this, unless the use the term "violent" VERY, VERY loosely, taxing all games with violence, catching my Fire Emblem and Pokemon along with parent terrorizers such as Doom, Call of Duty and HALO.
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I agree and disagree with this.

Firstly, games DOES NOT make people violent, the violence people see on games are at the player discretion to know what can happen in reality or not, and if it is something that can be done or not, it's up for parents/friends/whatever to say things we see in violent games are NOT supposed to be taken seriously, some fools think that video games are involved with real life, and it is not, it's not the video game companies fault.
About taxing it, it could be or not a good idea, it depends to who it is sold, you know, today you see little kids playing games supposed only for adults (for a perfect example here, GTA San Andreas), if the game is sold for adults, then it shouldn't be taxed, if a kid tries to buy it, it should either be prevented to buy the game or then pay the taxes.

And about this being a final thing.... it won't be, just like others said here, this case is similar to the many other cases we saw, the SOPA, ACTA, law anti-games (according to Zé Graça) and etc, this won't work out, don't worry.

About this dumb behavior I think it won't ever end, this is not the last case we will ever see, many other stuff like this will show up.
I agree and disagree with this.

Firstly, games DOES NOT make people violent, the violence people see on games are at the player discretion to know what can happen in reality or not, and if it is something that can be done or not, it's up for parents/friends/whatever to say things we see in violent games are NOT supposed to be taken seriously, some fools think that video games are involved with real life, and it is not, it's not the video game companies fault.
About taxing it, it could be or not a good idea, it depends to who it is sold, you know, today you see little kids playing games supposed only for adults (for a perfect example here, GTA San Andreas), if the game is sold for adults, then it shouldn't be taxed, if a kid tries to buy it, it should either be prevented to buy the game or then pay the taxes.

And about this being a final thing.... it won't be, just like others said here, this case is similar to the many other cases we saw, the SOPA, ACTA, law anti-games (according to Zé Graça) and etc, this won't work out, don't worry.

About this dumb behavior I think it won't ever end, this is not the last case we will ever see, many other stuff like this will show up.
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I think the funniest thing about all this is that it has been going on since the 90s, maybe even earlier. Studies show that those who test for this and are against violent games... tend to rig the tests. Unbiased tests actually showed more brain activity in violent games (assuming they are doing well) and their brain patterns remained unchanged from before they started playing it and after. Funnily enough, none of those test subjects did anything crime worthy.
I think the funniest thing about all this is that it has been going on since the 90s, maybe even earlier. Studies show that those who test for this and are against violent games... tend to rig the tests. Unbiased tests actually showed more brain activity in violent games (assuming they are doing well) and their brain patterns remained unchanged from before they started playing it and after. Funnily enough, none of those test subjects did anything crime worthy.
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SacraRain : I think there is a good amount of kids who have either
computers or mobile phones with games on them. If not then they can go
play cards or basketball outside Just imagine what kids did 100 years
ago, there was no pcs or xbox to play games on.

As for games causing violence, its true, if someone can't get the preorder of cod they will go apechit on best buy and threaten to blow it up. Not everyone goes that nuts but there are a few who do. I don't think people really get angry from games themselves unless they are getting their arse kicked but when that happens they usually just throw controller or something.

TV has way more influence on violence especially since they reward mass shooters with instant fame.
SacraRain : I think there is a good amount of kids who have either
computers or mobile phones with games on them. If not then they can go
play cards or basketball outside Just imagine what kids did 100 years
ago, there was no pcs or xbox to play games on.

As for games causing violence, its true, if someone can't get the preorder of cod they will go apechit on best buy and threaten to blow it up. Not everyone goes that nuts but there are a few who do. I don't think people really get angry from games themselves unless they are getting their arse kicked but when that happens they usually just throw controller or something.

TV has way more influence on violence especially since they reward mass shooters with instant fame.
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JigSaw :
"not to vote liberal"
because taxing violent videogames is a uniting flagship policy of liberals.
JigSaw :
"not to vote liberal"
because taxing violent videogames is a uniting flagship policy of liberals.
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First off, this is pretty dumb. They shouldn't be able to tax a certain type of game. Second, this is just Biden talking, so who even cares what he says. And third, I know there are liberals, socialists, and many democrats who are all for taxing the rich more, but now that they see that those in office want YOUR money as well, which by the way, they are already doing it with Obamacare, now you want to take a stand. It's all fine until it effects you.
First off, this is pretty dumb. They shouldn't be able to tax a certain type of game. Second, this is just Biden talking, so who even cares what he says. And third, I know there are liberals, socialists, and many democrats who are all for taxing the rich more, but now that they see that those in office want YOUR money as well, which by the way, they are already doing it with Obamacare, now you want to take a stand. It's all fine until it effects you.
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I'm a liberal, but even I despise the Obama administration. I don't really think any extreme is good, and I can agree with a few conservative viewpoints. I'll be the first to admit that, it doesn't really matter what party is supported by the president or congress- they all have being crooked in common. The liberal media is a joke, and conservatives deplete far more resources than they 'conserve'. Personally, I don't think any extreme is good, but instead the solution lies somewhere in a happy medium. If people just listened instead of speaking over one-another, there may not be such a mess.

Moving on to the topic at hand, I think that the idea is asinine. Tax games that teach kids to be violent, but plaster advertisements everywhere to get them interested in joining a military force that terrorizes other smaller countries. What are they going to use the tax money for; to issue more weapons and send more soldiers to Iraq, so the government can oppress some more people? Maybe train some gullible young adults to kill and be killed with the promise of health and education benefits?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
I'm a liberal, but even I despise the Obama administration. I don't really think any extreme is good, and I can agree with a few conservative viewpoints. I'll be the first to admit that, it doesn't really matter what party is supported by the president or congress- they all have being crooked in common. The liberal media is a joke, and conservatives deplete far more resources than they 'conserve'. Personally, I don't think any extreme is good, but instead the solution lies somewhere in a happy medium. If people just listened instead of speaking over one-another, there may not be such a mess.

Moving on to the topic at hand, I think that the idea is asinine. Tax games that teach kids to be violent, but plaster advertisements everywhere to get them interested in joining a military force that terrorizes other smaller countries. What are they going to use the tax money for; to issue more weapons and send more soldiers to Iraq, so the government can oppress some more people? Maybe train some gullible young adults to kill and be killed with the promise of health and education benefits?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
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If this ever did pass, I would have to force myself to not buy any newer games. Hopefully they don't add any additional taxing though, as the price is already high enough. 
If this ever did pass, I would have to force myself to not buy any newer games. Hopefully they don't add any additional taxing though, as the price is already high enough. 
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Well Biden is the man on earth
who I bet he didn't enjoy his
childhood. This is not ones fault
,but its all of our fault. Biden dose
not understand the true meaning of
childhood. Video games is the thing
that divides all gamer's, kids and
humans to connect with each other.
That's what revolutionizes some of the
peoples life. And we the people don't also
understand that video games is not just
your whole life,but just a part of it. Some
people do everything for video games.
So the answer to this problem in life is that we
should think about our life and Biden should think 
about his.....THE END
Well Biden is the man on earth
who I bet he didn't enjoy his
childhood. This is not ones fault
,but its all of our fault. Biden dose
not understand the true meaning of
childhood. Video games is the thing
that divides all gamer's, kids and
humans to connect with each other.
That's what revolutionizes some of the
peoples life. And we the people don't also
understand that video games is not just
your whole life,but just a part of it. Some
people do everything for video games.
So the answer to this problem in life is that we
should think about our life and Biden should think 
about his.....THE END
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Well Joe Biden's kind of a idiot because there are plenty of other factors that contribute to people comiting violent acts then just video games, for example the home in which you were raised plays a part (in my opinion) if you will comit violent acts, as well as the people around you but ultimately you have a choice to comit violent acts or not so its a matter of personal responsibly so blaming it on games like what Joe Biden is trying to do with this tax is idiotic and only furthers people to use violence seen in video games as an excuse to dodge personal responsibility for the acts they comit.
Well Joe Biden's kind of a idiot because there are plenty of other factors that contribute to people comiting violent acts then just video games, for example the home in which you were raised plays a part (in my opinion) if you will comit violent acts, as well as the people around you but ultimately you have a choice to comit violent acts or not so its a matter of personal responsibly so blaming it on games like what Joe Biden is trying to do with this tax is idiotic and only furthers people to use violence seen in video games as an excuse to dodge personal responsibility for the acts they comit.
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Is anyone here surprised? When government has such a high deficit, it tries first to find new revenues. Bush 1st tried it with a luxury tax, and it was a miserable failure
Is anyone here surprised? When government has such a high deficit, it tries first to find new revenues. Bush 1st tried it with a luxury tax, and it was a miserable failure
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janus :
"J.Biden" does not work for Bush.
Plus I think you are talking about "J. Liberman" anyway.
Besides Video games got their own Museum Exhibit under the notion that they were accepted as an art-form.
If they get this tax? What is there to stop them from going after music, film, and any other art form?

An extra "Tax" on that just gives the government more money and nothing more.
Or is it?

See taxing Art in all of it's forms would generate a ton of cash.
Every time a person draws or paints.
Every time a person writes.
Taxing such a concept would limit peoples creative rites.

Try to Remember that "Democracy" is a "practice" and not a provided service that is given.
You can not just go to one side or the other due to who is popular and expect the best results.
Anyway.
A new tax on a newly recognised "Art form" would be a stepping stone in all of the other art forms.
Then comes the twist on the freedom of speach that we know would be coming. This is not something I had to fear in the past. This is something that is now current events.
Good Luck.

Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.

janus :
"J.Biden" does not work for Bush.
Plus I think you are talking about "J. Liberman" anyway.
Besides Video games got their own Museum Exhibit under the notion that they were accepted as an art-form.
If they get this tax? What is there to stop them from going after music, film, and any other art form?

An extra "Tax" on that just gives the government more money and nothing more.
Or is it?

See taxing Art in all of it's forms would generate a ton of cash.
Every time a person draws or paints.
Every time a person writes.
Taxing such a concept would limit peoples creative rites.

Try to Remember that "Democracy" is a "practice" and not a provided service that is given.
You can not just go to one side or the other due to who is popular and expect the best results.
Anyway.
A new tax on a newly recognised "Art form" would be a stepping stone in all of the other art forms.
Then comes the twist on the freedom of speach that we know would be coming. This is not something I had to fear in the past. This is something that is now current events.
Good Luck.

Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.

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orionfoxgibson : To be honest, i'm surprised there is no oxygen tax yet - it's the kind of thing that the current British Government would do, as sickening as it sounds. Theres already a tax for having too big a house with the obvious intention of favouring the rich.
orionfoxgibson : To be honest, i'm surprised there is no oxygen tax yet - it's the kind of thing that the current British Government would do, as sickening as it sounds. Theres already a tax for having too big a house with the obvious intention of favouring the rich.
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SacredShadow
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This is ridiculous, video games very rarely drive kids to do insanely crazy things like commit suicide or stuff like that it is pointless and probably going to start an rebellion. Yeah this guy must have played with stones and read books his entire childhood life, lighten up dude it is just video games and there is no need to set a law to tax violent video games, next they will probably tax mario and sonic games because of the difficulty and characters or maybe pac man next because it is too old. What has the world come to, this is pathetic and just by taxing something it isn't going to completely make people stop buying it, if it was such a big concern which it is NOT, then he would have just simply removed all video games all together. I guess logic is not one of his strong points, this is ridiculous more people commit suicide from the bad economy than from video games, but of course the government has nothing better to do then make a few million dollars off of people who enjoy life.
This is ridiculous, video games very rarely drive kids to do insanely crazy things like commit suicide or stuff like that it is pointless and probably going to start an rebellion. Yeah this guy must have played with stones and read books his entire childhood life, lighten up dude it is just video games and there is no need to set a law to tax violent video games, next they will probably tax mario and sonic games because of the difficulty and characters or maybe pac man next because it is too old. What has the world come to, this is pathetic and just by taxing something it isn't going to completely make people stop buying it, if it was such a big concern which it is NOT, then he would have just simply removed all video games all together. I guess logic is not one of his strong points, this is ridiculous more people commit suicide from the bad economy than from video games, but of course the government has nothing better to do then make a few million dollars off of people who enjoy life.
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