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Hey, all!

I tried to make this thread once already, but unfortunately it had to be closed because it turned into a huge argument. But it still contains some very valuable information! If you'd like to view it, you can do so here. But we're going to try again, because this is very important!

I recently made a thread announcing my new gender identity. If you're curious and want to read it, you can find the thread here.
Anyway, I thought that people might have questions, or simply not know what 'transgender' means. This thread is here to answer your questions and to educate anyone who is confused!

What does "Transgender" mean?
Transgender (or trans for short) is an umbrella term that describes anyone who does not exclusively identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. This can go for many circumstances. For example, someone who was designated 'male' at birth but identifies as female is known as a Trans Girl. Or, someone who identifies as male but was designated 'female' at birth, who is known as a Trans Boy. These terms are not meant to confuse you! They are exactly what they say they are. A Trans Girl is just a girl, plain and simple. People who do identify with the gender they were assigned at birth are referred to as cisgender (or cis for short). There are other ways people can be transgender. Someone who has no gender is referred to as agender. Someone who identifies as something other than male or female is referred to as nonbinary. These people may have a subgender or no gender at all. There are others who identify as more than one gender. These people can have multiple genders at the same time (bigender or polygender), or their gender may fluctuate or change periodically (genderfluid). All of these people are still part of the transgender community!

What is the Gender Binary?
Binary is a word that means "two" or "two of something". The gender binary is simply the two-gender system that we are used to, Male and Female. However, not all trans people fall under the gender binary. These people may have a custom set of rules that apply to their gender, including titles and pronoun sets. These are very important to remember! If someone explains to you that they are nonbinary, make sure to listen very carefully to their gender outline. This is the way that you can refer to them when talking to them, or about them to other people. There are more than one type of transgender person that do fall under the binary, however. Bigender people identify as two or more genders. This doesn't necessarily apply to the gender binary exclusively, but it most commonly does. You can refer to a bigender person as either of the genders they identify as. Genderfluid folks are people whose gender changes. These changes are very sporadic and flexible, and do not necessarily follow a rigid schedule! These changes are also not confined to the binary. Here are some examples:
-A person who identifies as both male and female simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as male and a nonbinary gender simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as female and a nonbinary gender simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as male, female, and a third nonbinary gender simultaneously (polygender)
-A person who identifies as either male or female at any given time (genderfluid)
-A person who identifies as either male, female, or a third nonbinary gender at any given time (genderfluid)

Why are pronouns important?

As you probably don't want to refer to a trans person by their name every time you mention them, it is important to learn and memorize their pronoun sets. Misgendering a trans person through their pronouns (i.e. referring to a trans boy as "she") is a common mistake, but you should never do this on purpose! A trans person's pronouns are very important to them. Be sure to remember this and stay as vigilant as possible! It is a good idea to never assume someone's pronouns unless they have told you which set to use. Until you know a person's pronouns, stick with they/them/theirs when referring to them. But, after you have learned this person's pronouns, do not continue to use they/them/theirs on purpose! Doing so is still misgendering them and can be very offensive. There are many pronoun sets a person may use, depending on whether or not they fall into the binary. The three most common pronoun sets are:
- he/him/his (male)
- she/her/hers (female)
- they/them/theirs (neutral or unknown)
However, these are not the only pronoun sets! Others are far less common, but they still exist, and you should respect them if someone requests you use a specific set. Some less common alternative pronoun sets are:
- zey/zem/zir
- sie/sem/sey
- ey-etc
- cir (pronounced seer)
- co-etc
- hex-etc
These may seem complicated and hard to use, but try your best! Trans people are usually very understanding and are willing to work with you to improve your memorization of irregular pronouns.
What can I do to respect the transgender community?
There has been and still is a lot of hate towards transgender people. Very few places in the world (and none so far in the US) have official laws in place to protect trans people. This is a big problem, but it is one that we are progressively working on! Here are some things you can do to make sure to respect and acknowledge trans folk:

- Never assume someone's gender!

This is a huge problem among cis people. When seeing someone, you are likely to automatically assume their gender. This is extremely narrow minded and can be very offensive to some trans people! The best policy when associating with someone is to use gender neutral pronouns (they/them/theirs) until you know their gender. Don't be nosy, though! Trans people will tell you when they are ready. Never ask a person's pronouns unless you know them well! This can be seen as disrespectful and a breach of privacy.

- Don't base someone's gender on their genitals!

The way we determine a person's gender at birth is by looking at their genitals. This only applies when the person is too young to think for themselves! When someone has reached the age where they can independently think for themselves, it is no longer acceptable to assume their gender just because of their sex organs. Having a penis does not automatically make someone a boy. Having a vagina or perceptible breasts does not automatically make someone a girl. Never assume people's gender unless they make it perfectly clear to you!
- Don't use offensive or derogatory language!
Many trans people are insulted daily by peoples' use of slurs and other derogatory language. NEVER refer to a trans person as:
-"tranny"
-"it"
-"he-she"
-"ladyboy", "boygirl", "shemale", etc.
-"transsexual" (this word has a different meaning and most trans folk find the term offensive)
-"crossdresser"
These terms are harmful slurs. Offensive language is not confined to the above list, however. Use good judgement! Don't use terms of endearment unless the person has explicitly given you permission to do so.
- Respect the privacy of a trans person!
Please be sure to be sensitive to the privacy of trans folk. Do not "out" trans people. Do NOT tell someone else that someone is trans unless they have given you permission to do so! Trans people may want to remain anonymous. They may also want to limit the amount of people who know about their gender identity. If a trans person comes out to you, they are placing an enormous amount of trust in you! Be sure to show gratitude for this, and respect their trust by making sure they are comfortable before telling others. If they ask you not to tell anyone else, do NOT tell anyone else. Period!

- Just be nice to trans people!
In general, be kind to trans people. Many trans people have mental issues or histories of abuse because of their gender identity. Always be there to show your support. Don't freak out just because you know a trans person! Don't be overly apologetic to a trans person if you misgender them or accidentally use a slur. We expect it from you. Just say you're sorry and move on. Most importantly, don't affix a label to someone if they're not comfortable with it! Just because someone isn't cis, it doesn't necessarily make them trans. Be kind, be helpful, be open minded, be flexible.

That's the basics! I hope you find this informative. If you have any questions about any of this, or about anything I didn't cover here, please feel free to reply with your question! That's what this thread is for. As a transgender person myself, I am more than happy to answer any questions you may have. If you have a personal question, or wish to talk about your own gender in private, don't be afraid to send me a message! I'll gladly talk to you about whatever you need to talk about.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Good luck!
Hey, all!

I tried to make this thread once already, but unfortunately it had to be closed because it turned into a huge argument. But it still contains some very valuable information! If you'd like to view it, you can do so here. But we're going to try again, because this is very important!

I recently made a thread announcing my new gender identity. If you're curious and want to read it, you can find the thread here.
Anyway, I thought that people might have questions, or simply not know what 'transgender' means. This thread is here to answer your questions and to educate anyone who is confused!

What does "Transgender" mean?
Transgender (or trans for short) is an umbrella term that describes anyone who does not exclusively identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. This can go for many circumstances. For example, someone who was designated 'male' at birth but identifies as female is known as a Trans Girl. Or, someone who identifies as male but was designated 'female' at birth, who is known as a Trans Boy. These terms are not meant to confuse you! They are exactly what they say they are. A Trans Girl is just a girl, plain and simple. People who do identify with the gender they were assigned at birth are referred to as cisgender (or cis for short). There are other ways people can be transgender. Someone who has no gender is referred to as agender. Someone who identifies as something other than male or female is referred to as nonbinary. These people may have a subgender or no gender at all. There are others who identify as more than one gender. These people can have multiple genders at the same time (bigender or polygender), or their gender may fluctuate or change periodically (genderfluid). All of these people are still part of the transgender community!

What is the Gender Binary?
Binary is a word that means "two" or "two of something". The gender binary is simply the two-gender system that we are used to, Male and Female. However, not all trans people fall under the gender binary. These people may have a custom set of rules that apply to their gender, including titles and pronoun sets. These are very important to remember! If someone explains to you that they are nonbinary, make sure to listen very carefully to their gender outline. This is the way that you can refer to them when talking to them, or about them to other people. There are more than one type of transgender person that do fall under the binary, however. Bigender people identify as two or more genders. This doesn't necessarily apply to the gender binary exclusively, but it most commonly does. You can refer to a bigender person as either of the genders they identify as. Genderfluid folks are people whose gender changes. These changes are very sporadic and flexible, and do not necessarily follow a rigid schedule! These changes are also not confined to the binary. Here are some examples:
-A person who identifies as both male and female simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as male and a nonbinary gender simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as female and a nonbinary gender simultaneously (bigender)
-A person who identifies as male, female, and a third nonbinary gender simultaneously (polygender)
-A person who identifies as either male or female at any given time (genderfluid)
-A person who identifies as either male, female, or a third nonbinary gender at any given time (genderfluid)

Why are pronouns important?

As you probably don't want to refer to a trans person by their name every time you mention them, it is important to learn and memorize their pronoun sets. Misgendering a trans person through their pronouns (i.e. referring to a trans boy as "she") is a common mistake, but you should never do this on purpose! A trans person's pronouns are very important to them. Be sure to remember this and stay as vigilant as possible! It is a good idea to never assume someone's pronouns unless they have told you which set to use. Until you know a person's pronouns, stick with they/them/theirs when referring to them. But, after you have learned this person's pronouns, do not continue to use they/them/theirs on purpose! Doing so is still misgendering them and can be very offensive. There are many pronoun sets a person may use, depending on whether or not they fall into the binary. The three most common pronoun sets are:
- he/him/his (male)
- she/her/hers (female)
- they/them/theirs (neutral or unknown)
However, these are not the only pronoun sets! Others are far less common, but they still exist, and you should respect them if someone requests you use a specific set. Some less common alternative pronoun sets are:
- zey/zem/zir
- sie/sem/sey
- ey-etc
- cir (pronounced seer)
- co-etc
- hex-etc
These may seem complicated and hard to use, but try your best! Trans people are usually very understanding and are willing to work with you to improve your memorization of irregular pronouns.
What can I do to respect the transgender community?
There has been and still is a lot of hate towards transgender people. Very few places in the world (and none so far in the US) have official laws in place to protect trans people. This is a big problem, but it is one that we are progressively working on! Here are some things you can do to make sure to respect and acknowledge trans folk:

- Never assume someone's gender!

This is a huge problem among cis people. When seeing someone, you are likely to automatically assume their gender. This is extremely narrow minded and can be very offensive to some trans people! The best policy when associating with someone is to use gender neutral pronouns (they/them/theirs) until you know their gender. Don't be nosy, though! Trans people will tell you when they are ready. Never ask a person's pronouns unless you know them well! This can be seen as disrespectful and a breach of privacy.

- Don't base someone's gender on their genitals!

The way we determine a person's gender at birth is by looking at their genitals. This only applies when the person is too young to think for themselves! When someone has reached the age where they can independently think for themselves, it is no longer acceptable to assume their gender just because of their sex organs. Having a penis does not automatically make someone a boy. Having a vagina or perceptible breasts does not automatically make someone a girl. Never assume people's gender unless they make it perfectly clear to you!
- Don't use offensive or derogatory language!
Many trans people are insulted daily by peoples' use of slurs and other derogatory language. NEVER refer to a trans person as:
-"tranny"
-"it"
-"he-she"
-"ladyboy", "boygirl", "shemale", etc.
-"transsexual" (this word has a different meaning and most trans folk find the term offensive)
-"crossdresser"
These terms are harmful slurs. Offensive language is not confined to the above list, however. Use good judgement! Don't use terms of endearment unless the person has explicitly given you permission to do so.
- Respect the privacy of a trans person!
Please be sure to be sensitive to the privacy of trans folk. Do not "out" trans people. Do NOT tell someone else that someone is trans unless they have given you permission to do so! Trans people may want to remain anonymous. They may also want to limit the amount of people who know about their gender identity. If a trans person comes out to you, they are placing an enormous amount of trust in you! Be sure to show gratitude for this, and respect their trust by making sure they are comfortable before telling others. If they ask you not to tell anyone else, do NOT tell anyone else. Period!

- Just be nice to trans people!
In general, be kind to trans people. Many trans people have mental issues or histories of abuse because of their gender identity. Always be there to show your support. Don't freak out just because you know a trans person! Don't be overly apologetic to a trans person if you misgender them or accidentally use a slur. We expect it from you. Just say you're sorry and move on. Most importantly, don't affix a label to someone if they're not comfortable with it! Just because someone isn't cis, it doesn't necessarily make them trans. Be kind, be helpful, be open minded, be flexible.

That's the basics! I hope you find this informative. If you have any questions about any of this, or about anything I didn't cover here, please feel free to reply with your question! That's what this thread is for. As a transgender person myself, I am more than happy to answer any questions you may have. If you have a personal question, or wish to talk about your own gender in private, don't be afraid to send me a message! I'll gladly talk to you about whatever you need to talk about.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. Good luck!
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I'm glad you weren't discouraged from the first attempt. It's definitely very important that people get exposed to this message, even if they aren't initially accepting of it. Keep up the good work!

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I'm glad you weren't discouraged from the first attempt. It's definitely very important that people get exposed to this message, even if they aren't initially accepting of it. Keep up the good work!

I don't have any questions, but if you or anybody else wants to talk to me about this topic, feel free to send me a message. I promise I won't bite. :J
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I love this thread...
I'll be honest.
I checked out the old thread too, and I kinda have to agree to Bombchu with one thing: You are the gender you are assigned at birth.
But at the same time, I also agree to you. But uhh... Let's not turn this thread also in an argument... I think I have a few questions.

I identify as male everywhere, but I, honestly, dislike saying I'm male. But the reason I say I identify as male is because people knows I'm male... If I didn't register before I knew I wanted to become a girl, but after I knew, I would have an red username...
Does that still count as transgendered? Or is that still cisgender?

I, on YouTube, am gonna change my username into a more girly, original name. And, as I can talk like a girl... I'd talk like a girl with my girly voice on the microphone, not with my real voice... My voice hurts... It's also hard to understand. In fact, sometimes I talk with my girly voice accidentally! When I talk with that voice, it is easier to understand. And it goes out of my mouth more softly, instead of ‘He ll o. How are y ou? I am do ing gr eat! I kno w righ t?!’, it ges all fluently and softly and it goes like this: ‘Hello. How are you? I am doing great! I know right?!’.
And because of that, it feels more comfortable. Then I used this voice against the dogs and now I keep using it accidentally... My sister asked me: 'Are you a girl or what? You're voice..'
I replied 'It was accidentally.'
My sister replied me again; 'Ha! See? You're a girl!'
I then became so red and said 'I'm not...', and three seconds later I thought in my mind 'Yes, I am a girl. I'd love to be, anyways. But you don't know.'

But I find it annoying... I really need help...
I think my family are all against gays. I, am male, and I like males. I have not much interests into females left...
Anyways...

My mother told me in 2011 this:
Mother: 'Hey, at least you know you are a boy. There are boys who wants to become a girl. You aren't like that, are you?'
(I was straight at the time, and did not want to be a girl) Me: 'No, I'm not.'

This, makes me think that my mother is against both gays AND transgender people...

Then, for my sisters, they say they don't get how two males can kiss each other and that it's dirty. That is why I think my sisters are against gays.

I had only discovered that I was transgendered in november...
Thanks to CatLady, actually. I was talking about that I wanted to become female (I was VERY tired and it was like 4am, so I could not think straight.) and then CatLady randomly said 'Transgender. '. I was curious and asked what it meant, but she refused to explain the word. I decided to search it up and she told me to not to search it up. I refused to not search it up. After SEVEN-TEN hours of searching, I had found an solid source and new what it meant. I could not stop thinking about it. In fact, it was only a couple days since I thought I'm transgendered. But it has almost been a month since CatLady brought transgender up.
I am still not 100% sure if I'm transgendered, but I should say 80. It was 70% yesterday...

Meweevee: (I did not summon fail.) Meweeve, here is where I summoned you! Just so if you don't want to go through this post :3
Her (I assume you are female.) drawing of me in her last thread, I was a girl, not a boy. That, made me very happy. I was feeling great. Jam's a cute name, too! Meweevee's drawing is amazing in my opinion. Because of her drawing, I just... 80-90% sure. I love the drawing. Respect.


There is 3 more subjects I want to talk about.


Clothes...
Dresses:
I had always liked wearing girl clothes. Dresses? Only weared one dress (multiple times in private, one time in public at school, for a special day where we were all allowed to dress up in crazy clothes and party for like two hours (NO ALCOHOL.)), but when I wear the dress... I feel so comfy... Aria (AriaAngelDream) oe Kimmy (NintendoFanKimmy), I can't remember who, says that wearing a dress restricts movements... My dress (It landed in my wardrobe somehow...) is sort of a tight dress, and to me, it restricts ONE movement. Running with the foots at long distance between each other. I love my dress.

Skirts (or however it's called):
I know it is COMFY. And when turning, the skirt goes... idk how to explain it. I have weared a skirt once in my life privately. But I was 8 years old or younger.

Long socks:
I... Never really weared long socks, but when I have socks that is a bit long (Not like the long socks), when I stretch it all the way to the top, I find it comfortable. Stupid pants... Keeps putting them down

Guess I'll write the rest of the post in my next post. My 3DS has a character limit of how much I can write! Please reply as fast as possible... I BEG OF YOU! I want to say everything! :'(

~James
I love this thread...
I'll be honest.
I checked out the old thread too, and I kinda have to agree to Bombchu with one thing: You are the gender you are assigned at birth.
But at the same time, I also agree to you. But uhh... Let's not turn this thread also in an argument... I think I have a few questions.

I identify as male everywhere, but I, honestly, dislike saying I'm male. But the reason I say I identify as male is because people knows I'm male... If I didn't register before I knew I wanted to become a girl, but after I knew, I would have an red username...
Does that still count as transgendered? Or is that still cisgender?

I, on YouTube, am gonna change my username into a more girly, original name. And, as I can talk like a girl... I'd talk like a girl with my girly voice on the microphone, not with my real voice... My voice hurts... It's also hard to understand. In fact, sometimes I talk with my girly voice accidentally! When I talk with that voice, it is easier to understand. And it goes out of my mouth more softly, instead of ‘He ll o. How are y ou? I am do ing gr eat! I kno w righ t?!’, it ges all fluently and softly and it goes like this: ‘Hello. How are you? I am doing great! I know right?!’.
And because of that, it feels more comfortable. Then I used this voice against the dogs and now I keep using it accidentally... My sister asked me: 'Are you a girl or what? You're voice..'
I replied 'It was accidentally.'
My sister replied me again; 'Ha! See? You're a girl!'
I then became so red and said 'I'm not...', and three seconds later I thought in my mind 'Yes, I am a girl. I'd love to be, anyways. But you don't know.'

But I find it annoying... I really need help...
I think my family are all against gays. I, am male, and I like males. I have not much interests into females left...
Anyways...

My mother told me in 2011 this:
Mother: 'Hey, at least you know you are a boy. There are boys who wants to become a girl. You aren't like that, are you?'
(I was straight at the time, and did not want to be a girl) Me: 'No, I'm not.'

This, makes me think that my mother is against both gays AND transgender people...

Then, for my sisters, they say they don't get how two males can kiss each other and that it's dirty. That is why I think my sisters are against gays.

I had only discovered that I was transgendered in november...
Thanks to CatLady, actually. I was talking about that I wanted to become female (I was VERY tired and it was like 4am, so I could not think straight.) and then CatLady randomly said 'Transgender. '. I was curious and asked what it meant, but she refused to explain the word. I decided to search it up and she told me to not to search it up. I refused to not search it up. After SEVEN-TEN hours of searching, I had found an solid source and new what it meant. I could not stop thinking about it. In fact, it was only a couple days since I thought I'm transgendered. But it has almost been a month since CatLady brought transgender up.
I am still not 100% sure if I'm transgendered, but I should say 80. It was 70% yesterday...

Meweevee: (I did not summon fail.) Meweeve, here is where I summoned you! Just so if you don't want to go through this post :3
Her (I assume you are female.) drawing of me in her last thread, I was a girl, not a boy. That, made me very happy. I was feeling great. Jam's a cute name, too! Meweevee's drawing is amazing in my opinion. Because of her drawing, I just... 80-90% sure. I love the drawing. Respect.


There is 3 more subjects I want to talk about.


Clothes...
Dresses:
I had always liked wearing girl clothes. Dresses? Only weared one dress (multiple times in private, one time in public at school, for a special day where we were all allowed to dress up in crazy clothes and party for like two hours (NO ALCOHOL.)), but when I wear the dress... I feel so comfy... Aria (AriaAngelDream) oe Kimmy (NintendoFanKimmy), I can't remember who, says that wearing a dress restricts movements... My dress (It landed in my wardrobe somehow...) is sort of a tight dress, and to me, it restricts ONE movement. Running with the foots at long distance between each other. I love my dress.

Skirts (or however it's called):
I know it is COMFY. And when turning, the skirt goes... idk how to explain it. I have weared a skirt once in my life privately. But I was 8 years old or younger.

Long socks:
I... Never really weared long socks, but when I have socks that is a bit long (Not like the long socks), when I stretch it all the way to the top, I find it comfortable. Stupid pants... Keeps putting them down

Guess I'll write the rest of the post in my next post. My 3DS has a character limit of how much I can write! Please reply as fast as possible... I BEG OF YOU! I want to say everything! :'(

~James
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TheJmsGamer :

What you're describing is the same dysphoria that every trans person goes through.

It's hard to put into words isn't it? One of the hardest things to do is to understand exactly what you're feeling when you're not comfortable with your gender assigned at birth. It's strange, unusual, it makes you think really hard. But all in all, it comes down to deciding who you choose to identify as, and what you're comfortable with. If you prefer to identify as female, then you are indeed transgender.

I'm so happy you came to that decision. There's really only one thing left to say:

Welcome, sister. 
TheJmsGamer :

What you're describing is the same dysphoria that every trans person goes through.

It's hard to put into words isn't it? One of the hardest things to do is to understand exactly what you're feeling when you're not comfortable with your gender assigned at birth. It's strange, unusual, it makes you think really hard. But all in all, it comes down to deciding who you choose to identify as, and what you're comfortable with. If you prefer to identify as female, then you are indeed transgender.

I'm so happy you came to that decision. There's really only one thing left to say:

Welcome, sister. 
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Xenthou :
(I'm the guy from in chat from earlier, when CatLady sent the link to this thread.)
Such lovely words... (I blushed, literally...)
And your last post, made me finally understood what transgender means.

*Rereads the thread post*

I don't see what's wrong or why people hate or dislike transgender people...

I'm just scared... I... I'm just scared that my parents and sisters are against and if they find out...
My brother on the other hand, ALWAYS called me a girl. Yeah, it was annoying. Now, right at the moment I want him to call me a girl, he stopped and never did it again! I didn't even tell him I wanted him to call me a girl…
It's an hard life...
Xenthou :
(I'm the guy from in chat from earlier, when CatLady sent the link to this thread.)
Such lovely words... (I blushed, literally...)
And your last post, made me finally understood what transgender means.

*Rereads the thread post*

I don't see what's wrong or why people hate or dislike transgender people...

I'm just scared... I... I'm just scared that my parents and sisters are against and if they find out...
My brother on the other hand, ALWAYS called me a girl. Yeah, it was annoying. Now, right at the moment I want him to call me a girl, he stopped and never did it again! I didn't even tell him I wanted him to call me a girl…
It's an hard life...
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It certainly is tough. There's a very small percentage of people who're actually supportive of the trans community. But I'm fighting to make Vizzed a Trans-friendly community, the best I can. If you ever need to discuss anything, or if you need support, don't be afraid to tell me.

Thanks!
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It certainly is tough. There's a very small percentage of people who're actually supportive of the trans community. But I'm fighting to make Vizzed a Trans-friendly community, the best I can. If you ever need to discuss anything, or if you need support, don't be afraid to tell me.

Thanks!
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Alright, I have a question for you, after readying this thread. 

I am male, and I identify as male. However, I find that I have some feminine qualities, and I can get along with women a little better than males. 

Would I fall under anything? If you need more information, it'd probably be best to ask me questions to get the information you need. 
Alright, I have a question for you, after readying this thread. 

I am male, and I identify as male. However, I find that I have some feminine qualities, and I can get along with women a little better than males. 

Would I fall under anything? If you need more information, it'd probably be best to ask me questions to get the information you need. 
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If you were designated male at birth, then no. You would still be cis. Feminine boys are still boys, and social tendencies are not a defining factor. Thanks for your question, though!
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If you were designated male at birth, then no. You would still be cis. Feminine boys are still boys, and social tendencies are not a defining factor. Thanks for your question, though!
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Oh for God's sake, stop disliking all Xenthou's post whoever you are, if you want to make a stand, make a stand, don't do this, it's immature, and very 12-year-old.
 
 
If I'm still allowed here.... *cough*cough*

Let's try this again. 
 
 

Question:

Why is gender not decided by science?

Why are you arguing facts established 100 of yeas ago/trying to change what is the way it is?
The Japanese aren't going to get rid of Kanji cause you think it's a redundant thing.
 

Trans is Trans is Trans, you are what you are and you're not what you're not. (as defined by science aka reality, not your own dreamland)

It's that simple. 



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uhh, heh, thanks I guess. 


reading your post..... man....I...uhhh....*sniff*

I I mean uhh... 
 
 

*ahem* 


I'm not Xenthou, but I
can give some insight. 
 
 
.....


I don't even know where to start so I'm just going to try... something


And to note before hand, I'l prolly going to really, really embarrass myself with this post.

*deep breath*

Here's the deal, you want to be a girl, right?
I see it would be in the best interest for you according to your post, I mean, you like the dress ware, you want to be gay anyway, and your voice is also scratchy unless you talk in a light tone.


It seems like it's in the best interest for you, it really does as of now, but, You're only 14 years old, I know that this is the time that you begin to change and mature, and start to gain sexual desires.

But, you're only 14, I remember being 14, and I was well, naive, I knew nothing. That was when I fell into porn. I though it wasn't such a bad thing, and I also was ignorant of what it was, and what it was actually doing to me during that dark year I was consumed by it. 

I didn't do it often, but the sickening feeling I had on the inside just...wouldn't go away, especially knowing that if my parents or siblings found out.... I feared I would be shunned forever...at least. 
 
Long story short I was caught, thanks to browser cookies and my mom's facebook friends saying the adds on her facebook were..... inappropriate.  
 
I though I was doing the right thing, or it was at least acceptable, but I was only fooling myself, and it was a horrible game I was playing without knowing the true consequences. In fact I'm still paying some 4 years later, and will continue to pay for the rest of my life because if what I let into my mind. I was given this sick twisted form of what sexuality was, and it's been overridden now, but it's still their, and I can't help but see it in the way I first way it. I can't change the way it is, I can pretend it's not there, but it still it and it's affecting me whither I like it or not.
 
The morale here, is to not act without thinking long, and hard, and not by yourself. You need to consult someone that is much older than you with experience, someone who knows more about consequences, such as your parents.  They care for you, and I'm sure that if you were to address this dilemma to them, they will understand and try to help you.
 


 You are so...young, you have a lot to learn (heck I still have a lot to learn myself, we never ever stop learning after all) but It would just be good to get advice from somebody that can.... guide you, and help you.

What seems like the golden answer, the one way out, the path to light...can be very deceitful.

Just.... Just don't act rash, especially at your age... it will haunt you, forever...
Oh for God's sake, stop disliking all Xenthou's post whoever you are, if you want to make a stand, make a stand, don't do this, it's immature, and very 12-year-old.
 
 
If I'm still allowed here.... *cough*cough*

Let's try this again. 
 
 

Question:

Why is gender not decided by science?

Why are you arguing facts established 100 of yeas ago/trying to change what is the way it is?
The Japanese aren't going to get rid of Kanji cause you think it's a redundant thing.
 

Trans is Trans is Trans, you are what you are and you're not what you're not. (as defined by science aka reality, not your own dreamland)

It's that simple. 



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uhh, heh, thanks I guess. 


reading your post..... man....I...uhhh....*sniff*

I I mean uhh... 
 
 

*ahem* 


I'm not Xenthou, but I
can give some insight. 
 
 
.....


I don't even know where to start so I'm just going to try... something


And to note before hand, I'l prolly going to really, really embarrass myself with this post.

*deep breath*

Here's the deal, you want to be a girl, right?
I see it would be in the best interest for you according to your post, I mean, you like the dress ware, you want to be gay anyway, and your voice is also scratchy unless you talk in a light tone.


It seems like it's in the best interest for you, it really does as of now, but, You're only 14 years old, I know that this is the time that you begin to change and mature, and start to gain sexual desires.

But, you're only 14, I remember being 14, and I was well, naive, I knew nothing. That was when I fell into porn. I though it wasn't such a bad thing, and I also was ignorant of what it was, and what it was actually doing to me during that dark year I was consumed by it. 

I didn't do it often, but the sickening feeling I had on the inside just...wouldn't go away, especially knowing that if my parents or siblings found out.... I feared I would be shunned forever...at least. 
 
Long story short I was caught, thanks to browser cookies and my mom's facebook friends saying the adds on her facebook were..... inappropriate.  
 
I though I was doing the right thing, or it was at least acceptable, but I was only fooling myself, and it was a horrible game I was playing without knowing the true consequences. In fact I'm still paying some 4 years later, and will continue to pay for the rest of my life because if what I let into my mind. I was given this sick twisted form of what sexuality was, and it's been overridden now, but it's still their, and I can't help but see it in the way I first way it. I can't change the way it is, I can pretend it's not there, but it still it and it's affecting me whither I like it or not.
 
The morale here, is to not act without thinking long, and hard, and not by yourself. You need to consult someone that is much older than you with experience, someone who knows more about consequences, such as your parents.  They care for you, and I'm sure that if you were to address this dilemma to them, they will understand and try to help you.
 


 You are so...young, you have a lot to learn (heck I still have a lot to learn myself, we never ever stop learning after all) but It would just be good to get advice from somebody that can.... guide you, and help you.

What seems like the golden answer, the one way out, the path to light...can be very deceitful.

Just.... Just don't act rash, especially at your age... it will haunt you, forever...
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I love this thread <3
only because i identify myself as female who loves other females (have no interest in men)
I love this thread <3
only because i identify myself as female who loves other females (have no interest in men)
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...I'm disappointed. But as this thread has served as a tool for education thus far, I have no desire to turn it into an argument.  

Why do people feel that if something was done a certain way a few thousand years ago, it should still be done that way today?  We can all plainly see how that worked out for the people of the past. I wouldn't trust anyone back then to make decisions now. They didn't know what a germ was. But today, we have progressed so far as a modern civilization. Humans have collectively become more open-minded and accepting. But not much. I want you to go research what's happening in Ferguson right now.

The point is, we have a long way to go before everyone is treated as an equal. I'm not going to root my mind thousands of years in the past. That's ignorant, and it's going to get me nowhere. It's time to focus on the here and now. So let's focus on being respectful to trans people instead of arguing every single point you can as to why they shouldn't be trans. 

Please. Do not reply to this post, bombchu. If you have something you want to say to me, or anything else you want to discuss, do it in a private message. This thread is for education.
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...I'm disappointed. But as this thread has served as a tool for education thus far, I have no desire to turn it into an argument.  

Why do people feel that if something was done a certain way a few thousand years ago, it should still be done that way today?  We can all plainly see how that worked out for the people of the past. I wouldn't trust anyone back then to make decisions now. They didn't know what a germ was. But today, we have progressed so far as a modern civilization. Humans have collectively become more open-minded and accepting. But not much. I want you to go research what's happening in Ferguson right now.

The point is, we have a long way to go before everyone is treated as an equal. I'm not going to root my mind thousands of years in the past. That's ignorant, and it's going to get me nowhere. It's time to focus on the here and now. So let's focus on being respectful to trans people instead of arguing every single point you can as to why they shouldn't be trans. 

Please. Do not reply to this post, bombchu. If you have something you want to say to me, or anything else you want to discuss, do it in a private message. This thread is for education.
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You are right, I want to be a girl, I literally prefer being gay, or I prefer saying being interested in males, and yeah, my voice is scratchy. I love to talk like a girl.
But then, I love to do hair stuff, I like make-up (Tried it once, and a friend of mine is VERY bad... But during doing it, I liked it.), I love to do girly stuff...
Oh, and I love it when someone calls me a girl... I feel better... I feel more comfortable. WAY MORE.
Now let's see. 14? That is when you became interested in... Eww stuff...
14? That is where I changed, too.
I changed into the person who I am right now. Same age, same case. I was not like this before, apart from the clothes.
I'll follow that advice. I already changed. You honestly are annoying me, here and the previous argument.

Anyways, I AM SHY IRL. I can not talk about this to anyone.
The only one I know they'd be supportive is my father.
It will have to wait a few years to be able to tell them. But what if I fall in love with a boy? Whilst that might not happen (because everyone in the private school is just... NO THANK YOU... Jeez...) so soon, but if I do, my sister could notice it... I'd prefer to tell my parents if I fall in love with a boy.

You know what? You're right. My femininity will haunt me forever. Xenthou's thread here has helped me. After 25-30 days of being SO CONFUSED, her thread here helped me. I'm still confused, but her thread made me way less confused.

Now let's stop argueing, either don't reply or reply in a PRIVATE MESSAGE. Read Xenthou's post if you want to know why.

~James

Edit:
You're only 14 years old, I know that this is the time that you begin to change and mature, and start to gain sexual desires.

Right. I did change. I was not like this when I was 13. I started to change a lot when I was 14. I am 14. So you are right, it is the time I changed. In fact, I tried my best to not be girly in november! That, was how my brain thought back then. Now, it thinks like my heart does. My heart just wants to be girly, and likes males. My brain did not choose this – I had wanted to become a girl since april 2014. I was 13, back then, trying to not be girly. I onviously failed at that, and I am happy I did. I am more comfortable when I am girly. But I never realized that I wanted to become female until september-october 2014. But this does not mean I will stop resoecting females, and disrespect males who disrespect females. Females usually want respect, but males wants porn. I just wish males could have more respect for females...

Edit 2:
Before I say I'm transgendered, I will think about it... I indeed do prefer to identify as female; but that may change. I am just thinking about it... I might change and be straight one day again... I just don't know what to do…
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You are right, I want to be a girl, I literally prefer being gay, or I prefer saying being interested in males, and yeah, my voice is scratchy. I love to talk like a girl.
But then, I love to do hair stuff, I like make-up (Tried it once, and a friend of mine is VERY bad... But during doing it, I liked it.), I love to do girly stuff...
Oh, and I love it when someone calls me a girl... I feel better... I feel more comfortable. WAY MORE.
Now let's see. 14? That is when you became interested in... Eww stuff...
14? That is where I changed, too.
I changed into the person who I am right now. Same age, same case. I was not like this before, apart from the clothes.
I'll follow that advice. I already changed. You honestly are annoying me, here and the previous argument.

Anyways, I AM SHY IRL. I can not talk about this to anyone.
The only one I know they'd be supportive is my father.
It will have to wait a few years to be able to tell them. But what if I fall in love with a boy? Whilst that might not happen (because everyone in the private school is just... NO THANK YOU... Jeez...) so soon, but if I do, my sister could notice it... I'd prefer to tell my parents if I fall in love with a boy.

You know what? You're right. My femininity will haunt me forever. Xenthou's thread here has helped me. After 25-30 days of being SO CONFUSED, her thread here helped me. I'm still confused, but her thread made me way less confused.

Now let's stop argueing, either don't reply or reply in a PRIVATE MESSAGE. Read Xenthou's post if you want to know why.

~James

Edit:
You're only 14 years old, I know that this is the time that you begin to change and mature, and start to gain sexual desires.

Right. I did change. I was not like this when I was 13. I started to change a lot when I was 14. I am 14. So you are right, it is the time I changed. In fact, I tried my best to not be girly in november! That, was how my brain thought back then. Now, it thinks like my heart does. My heart just wants to be girly, and likes males. My brain did not choose this – I had wanted to become a girl since april 2014. I was 13, back then, trying to not be girly. I onviously failed at that, and I am happy I did. I am more comfortable when I am girly. But I never realized that I wanted to become female until september-october 2014. But this does not mean I will stop resoecting females, and disrespect males who disrespect females. Females usually want respect, but males wants porn. I just wish males could have more respect for females...

Edit 2:
Before I say I'm transgendered, I will think about it... I indeed do prefer to identify as female; but that may change. I am just thinking about it... I might change and be straight one day again... I just don't know what to do…
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Xenthou :

"...I'm disappointed."

Okay. ^^

It's not an argument unless you wanna make into an argument.  This is what's called /debate/ an orderly conduct of discussion of ideals. 
 

"This thread is for education."

Why is gender not decided by science?

Please educate me and answer my question, you have been beating your way around a bush and avoiding this for about 5/6 posts now. Please answer the question.


"I want you to go research what's happening in Ferguson right now."

You mean the riots? A gang member got shot, and then the cop wasn't convicted of murder cause the guy was an outlaw, and then people went on riots causing 12 million in damage. How is this relative to the topic at hand?



"Please. Do not reply to this post, bombchu." 

Okay. ^^


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"Now let's stop argueing, either don't reply or reply in a PRIVATE MESSAGE."

As I said above, this isn't "argueing", It's not even arguing, it's debating, but I will move it to PM's then for everyone's sake.
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"...I'm disappointed."

Okay. ^^

It's not an argument unless you wanna make into an argument.  This is what's called /debate/ an orderly conduct of discussion of ideals. 
 

"This thread is for education."

Why is gender not decided by science?

Please educate me and answer my question, you have been beating your way around a bush and avoiding this for about 5/6 posts now. Please answer the question.


"I want you to go research what's happening in Ferguson right now."

You mean the riots? A gang member got shot, and then the cop wasn't convicted of murder cause the guy was an outlaw, and then people went on riots causing 12 million in damage. How is this relative to the topic at hand?



"Please. Do not reply to this post, bombchu." 

Okay. ^^


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"Now let's stop argueing, either don't reply or reply in a PRIVATE MESSAGE."

As I said above, this isn't "argueing", It's not even arguing, it's debating, but I will move it to PM's then for everyone's sake.
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Just a quick post (and also a warning), if you can't stop the heated debate, then maybe it's better to just close this thread altogether (And no more remaking of threads). Let's all be even-tempered here please... This is a 13+ forum for a reason.
Just a quick post (and also a warning), if you can't stop the heated debate, then maybe it's better to just close this thread altogether (And no more remaking of threads). Let's all be even-tempered here please... This is a 13+ forum for a reason.
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Argument, debate, whatever you want to call it, the point is that it's not educating people, it's only causing drama. The reason I'm not answering your questions is because I've anwered them already, multiple times, in the previous thread. Please reread it until you find what you are looking for.


Now, please. The local moderators are geting on my tail about this. Stop replying here unless you have supportive, meaningful content to contribute. I would appreciate if I could keep this thread open as a tool for educating people who are curious.
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Argument, debate, whatever you want to call it, the point is that it's not educating people, it's only causing drama. The reason I'm not answering your questions is because I've anwered them already, multiple times, in the previous thread. Please reread it until you find what you are looking for.


Now, please. The local moderators are geting on my tail about this. Stop replying here unless you have supportive, meaningful content to contribute. I would appreciate if I could keep this thread open as a tool for educating people who are curious.
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As a friend to multiple people who are transgender I would like to give a tip to others who have transgender friends. Once those hormones kick in they (your friends!) might go through serious of dramatic stuff you might relate being a teenager full of hormones yourself. So show some understanding and have a heart, eh? It is different going through all that when you are basically a kid as for the first time (or maybe once again) when you are are an adult. And no matter what. Be a friend to your friend! (If there is an operation, fourth or fifth day is a good to visit!)

Cheers to all the transgender users of Vizzed!
As a friend to multiple people who are transgender I would like to give a tip to others who have transgender friends. Once those hormones kick in they (your friends!) might go through serious of dramatic stuff you might relate being a teenager full of hormones yourself. So show some understanding and have a heart, eh? It is different going through all that when you are basically a kid as for the first time (or maybe once again) when you are are an adult. And no matter what. Be a friend to your friend! (If there is an operation, fourth or fifth day is a good to visit!)

Cheers to all the transgender users of Vizzed!
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I approve of this thread. So much approval. Thank you, Xenthou, for doing this. I'd like to add a few words about gender and biological sex. Gender did, indeed, use to refer to what kind of chromosomes you have and what parts you have that would designate you as a male or a female. Not everyone fit this model, of course, because there exist people born with different parts than their chromosomes suggest, and there exist genetic conditions where sex chromosomes are different than the typical "XX" and "XY" variations. This is a condition referred to as "intersex."

However, as time moves on, so does language. Language evolves along with culture and understanding, and it is a natural thing and not something to be afraid of. Now the term "biological sex" describes what "gender" used to describe. Science is beginning to unravel the nature of "male" and "female." It is possible for a male to have a brain more like those of biological females, and vice versa. This, in many cases, is the root of the condition. Such people often feel constant discomfort with the gender that society has placed upon them, because how they feel and think does not match up with their bodies. One way that such people deal with these feelings is to undergo a process of "transition," which can include many, many things.

Transitioning can mean changing your hairstyle, using a different voice, walking differently, and changing your dress. Some people also choose to get on hormone replacement therapy, which changes the way your body looks and affects your voice. Some others decide to undergo surgery to change body parts specific to males and females, but neither getting on hormones or undergoing surgery are a necessary part of transition. They are a matter of personal choice, as with the transition itself.

I identify as nonbinary. I do not feel comfortable calling myself either a man or a woman. When I began to dress differently, wearing sports bras instead of regular bras, change my walk, my manner of speaking and so on, I got a rush of confidence. It changed my entire life. People who choose to orient what's outside to what's going on inside almost clamor with a unanimous voice that they feel more wholly themselves. Claiming "male" and "female" as their own, along with gender pronouns, is a part of that.

TheJmsGamer : Yeah, I was hesitant to start you down this journey before you were ready, and I didn't want to cause strife with you and your family, but through reading your posts I believe that you are ready to tackle this issue. If you ever need anything, I am happy to talk about it with you. And if you decide you are really cisgender, that is okay too. What's important is being in the process of figuring it out. This is going to be hard, whichever way you slice it, and I wish you the very best.

I really hope this thread does not get closed. I think it's unfortunate that when an argument of this nature erupts that seems to be the go-to method of solving the issue. It means that many difficult and complex issues upon which people feel strongly often don't get the time they deserve. I realize that opinions on this subject will vary, but I do hope we can keep this thread open. Even if the only reason to do so is that people can better understand this perspective.
I approve of this thread. So much approval. Thank you, Xenthou, for doing this. I'd like to add a few words about gender and biological sex. Gender did, indeed, use to refer to what kind of chromosomes you have and what parts you have that would designate you as a male or a female. Not everyone fit this model, of course, because there exist people born with different parts than their chromosomes suggest, and there exist genetic conditions where sex chromosomes are different than the typical "XX" and "XY" variations. This is a condition referred to as "intersex."

However, as time moves on, so does language. Language evolves along with culture and understanding, and it is a natural thing and not something to be afraid of. Now the term "biological sex" describes what "gender" used to describe. Science is beginning to unravel the nature of "male" and "female." It is possible for a male to have a brain more like those of biological females, and vice versa. This, in many cases, is the root of the condition. Such people often feel constant discomfort with the gender that society has placed upon them, because how they feel and think does not match up with their bodies. One way that such people deal with these feelings is to undergo a process of "transition," which can include many, many things.

Transitioning can mean changing your hairstyle, using a different voice, walking differently, and changing your dress. Some people also choose to get on hormone replacement therapy, which changes the way your body looks and affects your voice. Some others decide to undergo surgery to change body parts specific to males and females, but neither getting on hormones or undergoing surgery are a necessary part of transition. They are a matter of personal choice, as with the transition itself.

I identify as nonbinary. I do not feel comfortable calling myself either a man or a woman. When I began to dress differently, wearing sports bras instead of regular bras, change my walk, my manner of speaking and so on, I got a rush of confidence. It changed my entire life. People who choose to orient what's outside to what's going on inside almost clamor with a unanimous voice that they feel more wholly themselves. Claiming "male" and "female" as their own, along with gender pronouns, is a part of that.

TheJmsGamer : Yeah, I was hesitant to start you down this journey before you were ready, and I didn't want to cause strife with you and your family, but through reading your posts I believe that you are ready to tackle this issue. If you ever need anything, I am happy to talk about it with you. And if you decide you are really cisgender, that is okay too. What's important is being in the process of figuring it out. This is going to be hard, whichever way you slice it, and I wish you the very best.

I really hope this thread does not get closed. I think it's unfortunate that when an argument of this nature erupts that seems to be the go-to method of solving the issue. It means that many difficult and complex issues upon which people feel strongly often don't get the time they deserve. I realize that opinions on this subject will vary, but I do hope we can keep this thread open. Even if the only reason to do so is that people can better understand this perspective.
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There was a lot of information in there that I really had no clue about before. Thanks for posting this.

I also want to pitch my support of this thread. Live and let live.

I'm usually pretty good about using the right gender pronouns for transgender people. However, I think the hardest thing for me personally would be to "never assume someone's gender". It's a big habit, but I'll make the effort to stop.
There was a lot of information in there that I really had no clue about before. Thanks for posting this.

I also want to pitch my support of this thread. Live and let live.

I'm usually pretty good about using the right gender pronouns for transgender people. However, I think the hardest thing for me personally would be to "never assume someone's gender". It's a big habit, but I'll make the effort to stop.
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Why is gender not decided by science?





The culmination, and conclusion have been reached.


I retire my case.

Why is gender not decided by science?





The culmination, and conclusion have been reached.


I retire my case.
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And then as of today, I figured out I did not lose interests into females and hope not to. And, this fast?
I think Yoshi(rulez!) is right. I can't decide I am gay in just a month, he says it is impossible but I say it is hard. But, I do not think I am going to be straight again soon. Miiverse, one of the worst sources you can have, helped me. Well, the girl who stayed up late.
Also, for us two it was not an argument, I know. For you and Xenthou it felt like it. So yeah...

CatLady :
I got mad a few times. Yesterday I stabbed my leg with a pencil (And still not injured... Jeez.. My bones are too strong O-O...), and I keep rereading your post... So, I began to walk more like a girl a few days ago, and only my brother saw my hair waving when I was running. My father easily saw there was going on something with my sister. For me? It has almost been an month, I think, and he has not noticed anything. Or else he'd at least ask... Honestly, I am glad he did not even notice it when my parents asked me about what we talk about in the chat room. That was the scariest moment since I knew about the word ‘transgender’. First, I thought transgender meant asexual. 12 hours later I found out what it meant, but it still confused me. Xenthou's thread here, is the best source I have found. Thank you, for this thread, Xenthou. I appreciate it.

The only trouble right now though, with the way I look like, is my hair... (I would be too shy if I'd always dress up like a girl...
My sister asked me why I wanted long hair. I wanted to say ‘I don't know.’ whilst the answer actually is ‘I want to look more like a girl, and my hair makes me look like a girl.’
However, before I even had the chance to respond, my mom reacted angry and said ‘If he wants long hair for the winter, then let him have long hair!’... This means, that she might cut my hair when the winter is over – something I do not want.
My voice... I keep using my other, girly voice accidentally... I always use it to talk to the dogs, but it is starting to become an habit.

From my first post in here, I did include 'sock pants' at the end of my post becausey 3DS had an limit. The hype for that, was bigger than the dress.
I also wanted to include some more clothing, and two other subject, 'hair' and 'make-up'.
My hair, a week or two ago, I randomly did my hair and I did like it – another reason why I want long hair, but my sister asked why before I did it –, but my hair is still too short... 2.75 inches (or 8 centimetres...) until my hair has gone past my shoulders... I am gonna do some math, to see around how long it will take to get my hair past my shoulders...

About the make-up, I have tried it once, excluding drawing on my face to look like an clown or something else, and I tried it at school. I liked to do make-up, but a friend of mine who was helping me... I loved it during doing the make-up, but after seeing the result... I had to get help from a girl, not from a boy O-O
I looked awful, my friend used the wrong tools. No wonder I looked awful!
I had never considered make-up once in chat, as it is only when writing the first post here I thought about it... And I see walking like a girl is also becoming an habit, already.
What else can I say?

Honestly, I did not think I was ready. But I am deciding to change... Like...
@James
TAKE BATHS MORE AND BRUSH YOU THEETHS DUMBO. And get more manners at the table. Thank god you are finally learning to get manners.
Like that... So yeah, this post is a little bit more about me, too. Now you all know more. Now I am gonna eat, then I am gonna do some maths on my hair.
Goodbye, everyone, and have a good day! (I could put this into my signature... Saves me some words...)

~James

Edit:
I guess I can include a few extra things.
Whenever I talk with my voice – not the girly one –, you can barely understand me. I say ‘Hello, I am miss James.’, what you'd hear is... Something not understandable. It is INCREDIBLY HARD to understand me unless you listen well. When I talk with my girly voice... You would easily understand ‘Hey! I am miss James!’. You would easily understand better, because I try my hard to get my voice right and understandable. Plus, I get more hyped. You can ubderstand me better, and I talk like I'm happy. Look at the difference...
‘Hello, I am miss James.’
‘Hey! I am miss James!’
See? Different and more hyped. :3

What else? I always sit girly (Then my father complains about and says ‘You aren't a gal! You're a boy!’ (‘Tes pas une filles! Tes un mec!’...) I always respond ‘Yeah...’, then I sit normal, wait ten minutes and sit back. =.) Sitting like a girl, or lay like a girl is just... More comfortable then sitting/laying normal, or sit like a boy with the legs spread open... I just find that uncomfortable, to sit with the legs like that... It annoys me how my father/sister complains about when I'm sitting or talking girly... I don't always do it on purpose, but my voice is becoming a habit!

And then... I see a mustache hiding... I do not want that... I see very small hair when I look in the mirror, white hair and when I look sideways at my nose/mouth. When eating, I also noticed a mustache! I don't want one... No, not a mustache. Just, please no... But hey, my body is male and I am getting body hair... On my legs... I dislike the hair... I am glad there isn't body hair at my chest/belly... That, would be an nightmare to me.
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And then as of today, I figured out I did not lose interests into females and hope not to. And, this fast?
I think Yoshi(rulez!) is right. I can't decide I am gay in just a month, he says it is impossible but I say it is hard. But, I do not think I am going to be straight again soon. Miiverse, one of the worst sources you can have, helped me. Well, the girl who stayed up late.
Also, for us two it was not an argument, I know. For you and Xenthou it felt like it. So yeah...

CatLady :
I got mad a few times. Yesterday I stabbed my leg with a pencil (And still not injured... Jeez.. My bones are too strong O-O...), and I keep rereading your post... So, I began to walk more like a girl a few days ago, and only my brother saw my hair waving when I was running. My father easily saw there was going on something with my sister. For me? It has almost been an month, I think, and he has not noticed anything. Or else he'd at least ask... Honestly, I am glad he did not even notice it when my parents asked me about what we talk about in the chat room. That was the scariest moment since I knew about the word ‘transgender’. First, I thought transgender meant asexual. 12 hours later I found out what it meant, but it still confused me. Xenthou's thread here, is the best source I have found. Thank you, for this thread, Xenthou. I appreciate it.

The only trouble right now though, with the way I look like, is my hair... (I would be too shy if I'd always dress up like a girl...
My sister asked me why I wanted long hair. I wanted to say ‘I don't know.’ whilst the answer actually is ‘I want to look more like a girl, and my hair makes me look like a girl.’
However, before I even had the chance to respond, my mom reacted angry and said ‘If he wants long hair for the winter, then let him have long hair!’... This means, that she might cut my hair when the winter is over – something I do not want.
My voice... I keep using my other, girly voice accidentally... I always use it to talk to the dogs, but it is starting to become an habit.

From my first post in here, I did include 'sock pants' at the end of my post becausey 3DS had an limit. The hype for that, was bigger than the dress.
I also wanted to include some more clothing, and two other subject, 'hair' and 'make-up'.
My hair, a week or two ago, I randomly did my hair and I did like it – another reason why I want long hair, but my sister asked why before I did it –, but my hair is still too short... 2.75 inches (or 8 centimetres...) until my hair has gone past my shoulders... I am gonna do some math, to see around how long it will take to get my hair past my shoulders...

About the make-up, I have tried it once, excluding drawing on my face to look like an clown or something else, and I tried it at school. I liked to do make-up, but a friend of mine who was helping me... I loved it during doing the make-up, but after seeing the result... I had to get help from a girl, not from a boy O-O
I looked awful, my friend used the wrong tools. No wonder I looked awful!
I had never considered make-up once in chat, as it is only when writing the first post here I thought about it... And I see walking like a girl is also becoming an habit, already.
What else can I say?

Honestly, I did not think I was ready. But I am deciding to change... Like...
@James
TAKE BATHS MORE AND BRUSH YOU THEETHS DUMBO. And get more manners at the table. Thank god you are finally learning to get manners.
Like that... So yeah, this post is a little bit more about me, too. Now you all know more. Now I am gonna eat, then I am gonna do some maths on my hair.
Goodbye, everyone, and have a good day! (I could put this into my signature... Saves me some words...)

~James

Edit:
I guess I can include a few extra things.
Whenever I talk with my voice – not the girly one –, you can barely understand me. I say ‘Hello, I am miss James.’, what you'd hear is... Something not understandable. It is INCREDIBLY HARD to understand me unless you listen well. When I talk with my girly voice... You would easily understand ‘Hey! I am miss James!’. You would easily understand better, because I try my hard to get my voice right and understandable. Plus, I get more hyped. You can ubderstand me better, and I talk like I'm happy. Look at the difference...
‘Hello, I am miss James.’
‘Hey! I am miss James!’
See? Different and more hyped. :3

What else? I always sit girly (Then my father complains about and says ‘You aren't a gal! You're a boy!’ (‘Tes pas une filles! Tes un mec!’...) I always respond ‘Yeah...’, then I sit normal, wait ten minutes and sit back. =.) Sitting like a girl, or lay like a girl is just... More comfortable then sitting/laying normal, or sit like a boy with the legs spread open... I just find that uncomfortable, to sit with the legs like that... It annoys me how my father/sister complains about when I'm sitting or talking girly... I don't always do it on purpose, but my voice is becoming a habit!

And then... I see a mustache hiding... I do not want that... I see very small hair when I look in the mirror, white hair and when I look sideways at my nose/mouth. When eating, I also noticed a mustache! I don't want one... No, not a mustache. Just, please no... But hey, my body is male and I am getting body hair... On my legs... I dislike the hair... I am glad there isn't body hair at my chest/belly... That, would be an nightmare to me.
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