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Would you reinstate the death penalty?

 
Would you reinstate the death penalty?
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The death penalty is legal in some places in the world still have the death penalty like some places in the US. I would actually consider reinstating it in some places. If there's someone who's committed multiple murders and there's really no chance of rehabilitating him then it's too dangerous to keep them in society. But then again it may be beneficial to not have a death penalty. Some people would rather die the be locked in a cell for their whole life. If it were me I would rather die than be confined and jailed for the rest of my life.
The death penalty is legal in some places in the world still have the death penalty like some places in the US. I would actually consider reinstating it in some places. If there's someone who's committed multiple murders and there's really no chance of rehabilitating him then it's too dangerous to keep them in society. But then again it may be beneficial to not have a death penalty. Some people would rather die the be locked in a cell for their whole life. If it were me I would rather die than be confined and jailed for the rest of my life.

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I think it should be optional. If the person that is convicted wants it then they can get it on request, if they don't, then they can spend most or the rest of their life in a cell. There are more innocent people that go to jail or prison than you think as a matter of fact "the land of the free" has more people in a cell than any other country in the world. I don't trust 12 morons and some duffus old hog with a little hammer to predict if someone is guilty or not. I don't trust the legal system in the US what so ever. I got off track there for a second, but yeah, I think it should be optional.

I think it should be optional. If the person that is convicted wants it then they can get it on request, if they don't, then they can spend most or the rest of their life in a cell. There are more innocent people that go to jail or prison than you think as a matter of fact "the land of the free" has more people in a cell than any other country in the world. I don't trust 12 morons and some duffus old hog with a little hammer to predict if someone is guilty or not. I don't trust the legal system in the US what so ever. I got off track there for a second, but yeah, I think it should be optional.

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ok seriously now, I'm not sure whether I would reinstate the death penalty or not.  I've heard horror stories where the lethal injection doesn't kill, but leaves the accused in  a poor, coma-like state.  I think if they developed a more humane way, it could prove effective.  
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ok seriously now, I'm not sure whether I would reinstate the death penalty or not.  I've heard horror stories where the lethal injection doesn't kill, but leaves the accused in  a poor, coma-like state.  I think if they developed a more humane way, it could prove effective.  

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supernerd117 : Well the most common form of execution is the electric chair. I've actually never heard of lethal injection so that's interesting.
supernerd117 : Well the most common form of execution is the electric chair. I've actually never heard of lethal injection so that's interesting.

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Blubcreator : Lethal injection is the primary form of the death penalty in the US nowadays. However, there is some serious controversy surrounding the whole thing because the concoctions do not always kill people swiftly/painlessly. There was the one story recently about a botched lethal injection by way of new combinations of chemicals. The end result was an excruciatingly painful death that lasted longer than 20 minutes, I believe. Some states here are also thinking of reinstating older methods. Personally, I am all for the death penalty, but let people choose how they want to die. I would rather be killed by firing squad, as I would be able to ensure my prompt death with little pain, versus the uncertainty of a lethal injection or electric chair. 

Edit: Rescind my statements about saying that I am all for the death penalty. I am unsure now. 
Blubcreator : Lethal injection is the primary form of the death penalty in the US nowadays. However, there is some serious controversy surrounding the whole thing because the concoctions do not always kill people swiftly/painlessly. There was the one story recently about a botched lethal injection by way of new combinations of chemicals. The end result was an excruciatingly painful death that lasted longer than 20 minutes, I believe. Some states here are also thinking of reinstating older methods. Personally, I am all for the death penalty, but let people choose how they want to die. I would rather be killed by firing squad, as I would be able to ensure my prompt death with little pain, versus the uncertainty of a lethal injection or electric chair. 

Edit: Rescind my statements about saying that I am all for the death penalty. I am unsure now. 

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I think that this is a very gray area in general... because well... the death penalty is legal murder, but in the other sense sometimes its just better to kill someone than to let the sit in a jail for their whole lives (some people think its not for some reason?). I personally think that the death penalty is a justified thing but sop281: there are a few places that do let you choose your death, I think only 2 states do this now and firing squad is one of the options along with lethal injection, hanging, etc.
I think that this is a very gray area in general... because well... the death penalty is legal murder, but in the other sense sometimes its just better to kill someone than to let the sit in a jail for their whole lives (some people think its not for some reason?). I personally think that the death penalty is a justified thing but sop281: there are a few places that do let you choose your death, I think only 2 states do this now and firing squad is one of the options along with lethal injection, hanging, etc.

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Blubcreator : I think whatever the crime was..they should do to you..(In most cases) So for example...If you  shot 10 people you'd be shot ten times...but they'd make it last...so like they'd shoot you in the leg and the arm and kinda let you suffer...but if you didn't kill anyone you'd still be shot... 
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Blubcreator : I think whatever the crime was..they should do to you..(In most cases) So for example...If you  shot 10 people you'd be shot ten times...but they'd make it last...so like they'd shoot you in the leg and the arm and kinda let you suffer...but if you didn't kill anyone you'd still be shot... 

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sop281 :
They are using new chemicals because most of the chemicals come from europe. Neither any of the nations in europeor the companys there want their chemicals to be used for killing.
so every few months the chemicals used are changed. Then the european company that sells them finds out what its being used for, refuses to sell anymore, and they need to find new chemicals to use.
Because of that many states either havelong waiting listsor are using risky chemical combinations.
Some states are moving back to the electric chair.
Im surorised that no compatible chemicals are made in the usa.
Also the firing squad hasnt been used in about 30 years i think. A guy requested itand they refused. They want the deaths to be clean or people will kick up a fus.
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They are using new chemicals because most of the chemicals come from europe. Neither any of the nations in europeor the companys there want their chemicals to be used for killing.
so every few months the chemicals used are changed. Then the european company that sells them finds out what its being used for, refuses to sell anymore, and they need to find new chemicals to use.
Because of that many states either havelong waiting listsor are using risky chemical combinations.
Some states are moving back to the electric chair.
Im surorised that no compatible chemicals are made in the usa.
Also the firing squad hasnt been used in about 30 years i think. A guy requested itand they refused. They want the deaths to be clean or people will kick up a fus.


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Sounds perfectly fine to me let's show people killing is wrong by killing them... I wouldn't do it. Perhaps if the person in question actually wanted to die instead of spending life in jail. But in any case it should not be mandatory as I just don't think it's right what do you really gain from the person dying besides revenge not to mention wrongly convicted people who might get killed.
Sounds perfectly fine to me let's show people killing is wrong by killing them... I wouldn't do it. Perhaps if the person in question actually wanted to die instead of spending life in jail. But in any case it should not be mandatory as I just don't think it's right what do you really gain from the person dying besides revenge not to mention wrongly convicted people who might get killed.

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Since I am the first to vote no on this I feel the need to educate vizzed a little.  When DNA evidence first became submissable in court something like 20+ people on death row were found to be innocent.  That means we were slaughtering innocent people the entire time.  So what is one innocent life worth when you can simply just lock people up indefinitely instead of killing them.  If the judicial system were perfect then it would be okay to kill people who have committed horrible acts against humanity, but seeing as the system is run by people who will never be perfect then the system will never be perfect either.  So I ask again is simple vengeance worth innocent lives I must say no and those who disagree should themselves be put on trial.  Sorry if I come off harsh here but I just don't see how people can be fore the death penalty because to me it seems the same as saying it is okay to kill innocents.  
Since I am the first to vote no on this I feel the need to educate vizzed a little.  When DNA evidence first became submissable in court something like 20+ people on death row were found to be innocent.  That means we were slaughtering innocent people the entire time.  So what is one innocent life worth when you can simply just lock people up indefinitely instead of killing them.  If the judicial system were perfect then it would be okay to kill people who have committed horrible acts against humanity, but seeing as the system is run by people who will never be perfect then the system will never be perfect either.  So I ask again is simple vengeance worth innocent lives I must say no and those who disagree should themselves be put on trial.  Sorry if I come off harsh here but I just don't see how people can be fore the death penalty because to me it seems the same as saying it is okay to kill innocents.  


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Blubcreator : I would say no because people would just be getting revenge all the time if people could be put on a death penalty, like there would be more killings of people than just killing of innocent people. I think they should put them on a life sentence.

Blubcreator : I would say no because people would just be getting revenge all the time if people could be put on a death penalty, like there would be more killings of people than just killing of innocent people. I think they should put them on a life sentence.


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Blubcreator : The death penalty isn't about taking a non-beneficial person from society; its purpose is to punish those who committed a severe crime (such as killing someone, trying to steal something and killing etc...) I can be a no good bum on the streets, and not deserve to be removed from society. I believe in keeping it, because it scares potential killers into leaving crime alone. (And only the ones who have been found guilty, or caught would be getting this sentence.)
Blubcreator : The death penalty isn't about taking a non-beneficial person from society; its purpose is to punish those who committed a severe crime (such as killing someone, trying to steal something and killing etc...) I can be a no good bum on the streets, and not deserve to be removed from society. I believe in keeping it, because it scares potential killers into leaving crime alone. (And only the ones who have been found guilty, or caught would be getting this sentence.)


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fightorace : Your post seems to be very confusing to me. You say how the death penalty is such a wrong and horrible thing, yet you also say that anybody who supports it should be put on trial themselves? I support the death penalty, personally, and I think that the way that you said that make you look like a hypocrite. If people who support the death penalty are such horrible people and should be executed, according to you, then what do you make of yourself?

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fightorace : Your post seems to be very confusing to me. You say how the death penalty is such a wrong and horrible thing, yet you also say that anybody who supports it should be put on trial themselves? I support the death penalty, personally, and I think that the way that you said that make you look like a hypocrite. If people who support the death penalty are such horrible people and should be executed, according to you, then what do you make of yourself?

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I personally won't reinstate the death penalty..... yes there are alot of sick people in the world who would do things like kill people or rape someone..... but I don't think anyone deserves to die.... but yes you are soo right there are indeed people who would rather die than spend the life in jail.....

like as pretty much everyone knows there was that guy who kidnapped 3 women for 10 years.... he hung himself few days after he was given a life sentence!!

I personally won't reinstate the death penalty..... yes there are alot of sick people in the world who would do things like kill people or rape someone..... but I don't think anyone deserves to die.... but yes you are soo right there are indeed people who would rather die than spend the life in jail.....

like as pretty much everyone knows there was that guy who kidnapped 3 women for 10 years.... he hung himself few days after he was given a life sentence!!

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No.

Like others have said, it's murder in the disguise of justice.
The limit should be locking them away, beyond that there is no point of return.

An apology won't bring back the innocent after they've been executed, if they were guilty they just got the easy way out.
Also I disagree with the idea of giving them a choice, death would be an escape from their incarceration.
No.

Like others have said, it's murder in the disguise of justice.
The limit should be locking them away, beyond that there is no point of return.

An apology won't bring back the innocent after they've been executed, if they were guilty they just got the easy way out.
Also I disagree with the idea of giving them a choice, death would be an escape from their incarceration.

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Glaceonwhisper : The problem is, the death penalty is currently extremely unfair, and not at all like that. As one person put it, the only way the death penalty could be fair is if the person that was murdered had been locked in a small room for years on end, knowing that one day their captor would come back to kill them. That's how the death penalty works. How is it justice for someone to be tormented mentally for twenty years, then led to their own execution in chains, and killed, when they walked up to someone and killed them instantly and without any prior notice? The mental anguish is crazy and unjustified. It is "cruel and unusual". Justice is about evening things out, not bringing lopsided vengeance. IF a death penalty were to be fair, it would have to be done exactly like you stated. Another person said, "The only way to make the death penalty fair would be to tell the fella he was free, then when he turned around with a big smile on his face, shoot him in the back of the head".


My opinion: no. Is it wrong to kill? If so, how can I justify the government doing it? Where do we draw the line on what laws and morals it's okay for the government to break? The penalty was based on an outdated commandment in the Old Covenant of the Bible. The founders of the law were clearly confused, as they were trying to base the laws on the Bible, but if one reads the entire Bible, it condemns the practice.

I can respect people disagreeing with me, but this topic affects me personally, and I'll just say that when this hits you personally in one way or another, it definitely does a lot to change your opinion about it.



EDIT: I also have to agree with GenesisJunkie when he says "There are more innocent people that go to jail or prison than you think" and "I don't trust 12 morons and some duffus old hog with a little hammer to predict if someone is guilty or not". So should we kill someone because thirteen people are fairly certain that they did something wrong? "We really think you're guilty, so you're going to die because we have reason to believe you might have done it.". I have actually known someone that got killed on death row, even though he didn't hurt anyone. And this isn't even the reason it hits home for me. I won't get into that one.
Glaceonwhisper : The problem is, the death penalty is currently extremely unfair, and not at all like that. As one person put it, the only way the death penalty could be fair is if the person that was murdered had been locked in a small room for years on end, knowing that one day their captor would come back to kill them. That's how the death penalty works. How is it justice for someone to be tormented mentally for twenty years, then led to their own execution in chains, and killed, when they walked up to someone and killed them instantly and without any prior notice? The mental anguish is crazy and unjustified. It is "cruel and unusual". Justice is about evening things out, not bringing lopsided vengeance. IF a death penalty were to be fair, it would have to be done exactly like you stated. Another person said, "The only way to make the death penalty fair would be to tell the fella he was free, then when he turned around with a big smile on his face, shoot him in the back of the head".


My opinion: no. Is it wrong to kill? If so, how can I justify the government doing it? Where do we draw the line on what laws and morals it's okay for the government to break? The penalty was based on an outdated commandment in the Old Covenant of the Bible. The founders of the law were clearly confused, as they were trying to base the laws on the Bible, but if one reads the entire Bible, it condemns the practice.

I can respect people disagreeing with me, but this topic affects me personally, and I'll just say that when this hits you personally in one way or another, it definitely does a lot to change your opinion about it.



EDIT: I also have to agree with GenesisJunkie when he says "There are more innocent people that go to jail or prison than you think" and "I don't trust 12 morons and some duffus old hog with a little hammer to predict if someone is guilty or not". So should we kill someone because thirteen people are fairly certain that they did something wrong? "We really think you're guilty, so you're going to die because we have reason to believe you might have done it.". I have actually known someone that got killed on death row, even though he didn't hurt anyone. And this isn't even the reason it hits home for me. I won't get into that one.

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Eirinn : You raise a fair point. I seemed to have completely forgotten that a lot more innocent people go to jail than we think. If somone were framed then all we would be doing is killing innocent lives. In a way even if we were killing someone who is guilty basically just makes us hypocrites.

In most cases people would rather die than spend life in jail. It's why a lot of people commit suicide in there or before they go to jail.
Eirinn : You raise a fair point. I seemed to have completely forgotten that a lot more innocent people go to jail than we think. If somone were framed then all we would be doing is killing innocent lives. In a way even if we were killing someone who is guilty basically just makes us hypocrites.

In most cases people would rather die than spend life in jail. It's why a lot of people commit suicide in there or before they go to jail.

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Blubcreator :
Eirinn :
I do agree that to kill someone who had been framed, or falsely accused of something, shouldn't die for what they did.
To the rest of you. Imagine sitting in a metal cell for 50 years... I would view that as cruel and unusual punishment. If I WAS guilty of murder, I wouldn't want to be in jail for 50+ years. Just kill me, and let God judge the ones who made the wrong decisions. (Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with killing people in jail just because, they must be guilty, and they must have been found guilty for their crime.) 

Just a comment I want to throw out there, What about all those killers who have been left in jail, and broke out of jail... They just had time to leave jail and escape to another country.
Blubcreator :
Eirinn :
I do agree that to kill someone who had been framed, or falsely accused of something, shouldn't die for what they did.
To the rest of you. Imagine sitting in a metal cell for 50 years... I would view that as cruel and unusual punishment. If I WAS guilty of murder, I wouldn't want to be in jail for 50+ years. Just kill me, and let God judge the ones who made the wrong decisions. (Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with killing people in jail just because, they must be guilty, and they must have been found guilty for their crime.) 

Just a comment I want to throw out there, What about all those killers who have been left in jail, and broke out of jail... They just had time to leave jail and escape to another country.


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darthyoda : But that's exactly the point though?? It's supposed to be punishment.
If you would rather end your own life than live without freedom, then you shouldn't have taken someone elses in the first place.

Also, the money and time that goes into execution could be used for reinforcing/improving security in prisons and international measures.
Protecting lives is more important than taking them.
darthyoda : But that's exactly the point though?? It's supposed to be punishment.
If you would rather end your own life than live without freedom, then you shouldn't have taken someone elses in the first place.

Also, the money and time that goes into execution could be used for reinforcing/improving security in prisons and international measures.
Protecting lives is more important than taking them.

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