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Nintendo / Wii U

 
Do you think Nintendo is in a very bad spot right now?
Yes, and their console days are over.
 
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They've hit a BIG bump, but might come back.
 
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They'll be fine, with some work.
 
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They've got it in the bag!
 
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There has been a lot of talking about the doom on Nintendo. It seems like every internet journalist says the same thing: " Nintendo hasn't sold many Wii U units at all, and with the two other big consoles coming out this year, Nintendo will seem left behind".

While there is some truth to that, I don't think Nintendo is doing as bad some some say. They sales are less than predicted, but they are not out of the race by any means. Here's why.

First, Nintendo has sold about the same amount of consoles in it's first six months as X Box 360 and PS3 had in their first six. Yet both consoles ended up doing well. It's only because the Wii U did not do nearly as well as the Wii that it seems to be doing so poor. Also, it missed it's estimated sold units, and the two other competitors consoles are outselling it... but as we've seen, a less that impressive launch doesn't mean the system will fail in the long run.

Secondly, most of Wii U's first party games haven't come out yet. For those who don't know what that is, those are series own and developed in part by Nintendo: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Pikmen, Super Smash... etc. Once they are announce in Nintendo Direct at E3, they will have a ton of hard core Ninfans interested again. This also protects them from 3rd party companies removing their support, such as EA. If it were an other system, they would be a in a pickle, but Nintendo can keep going on it's own steam and with games from Ubisoft, for example.

Finally, Nintendo has a one year lead on the other systems, that means this fall, their price will drop, as is normal in a system's lifespan, and will seem dirt cheap next to the other two. Not that many people are excited about the X box One anyways.

I think Nintendo, although having a shaky start, will be just fine, and may even outsell the X Box.

What do you think?
There has been a lot of talking about the doom on Nintendo. It seems like every internet journalist says the same thing: " Nintendo hasn't sold many Wii U units at all, and with the two other big consoles coming out this year, Nintendo will seem left behind".

While there is some truth to that, I don't think Nintendo is doing as bad some some say. They sales are less than predicted, but they are not out of the race by any means. Here's why.

First, Nintendo has sold about the same amount of consoles in it's first six months as X Box 360 and PS3 had in their first six. Yet both consoles ended up doing well. It's only because the Wii U did not do nearly as well as the Wii that it seems to be doing so poor. Also, it missed it's estimated sold units, and the two other competitors consoles are outselling it... but as we've seen, a less that impressive launch doesn't mean the system will fail in the long run.

Secondly, most of Wii U's first party games haven't come out yet. For those who don't know what that is, those are series own and developed in part by Nintendo: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Pikmen, Super Smash... etc. Once they are announce in Nintendo Direct at E3, they will have a ton of hard core Ninfans interested again. This also protects them from 3rd party companies removing their support, such as EA. If it were an other system, they would be a in a pickle, but Nintendo can keep going on it's own steam and with games from Ubisoft, for example.

Finally, Nintendo has a one year lead on the other systems, that means this fall, their price will drop, as is normal in a system's lifespan, and will seem dirt cheap next to the other two. Not that many people are excited about the X box One anyways.

I think Nintendo, although having a shaky start, will be just fine, and may even outsell the X Box.

What do you think?
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Everything is going to outsell the XboX One, even the bloody Ouya. Like you said, the only reason why it is not selling more is that Nintendo's own games are not out yet; once Super Smash Bros 4 comes out, everyone will be buying it. We were promised a HD Zelda game, and are getting that, but in quite a different way; we are instead getting a remake of Wind Waker. I welcome that, but we need a new game. It'll be SSB4 that will make me buy this.
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Everything is going to outsell the XboX One, even the bloody Ouya. Like you said, the only reason why it is not selling more is that Nintendo's own games are not out yet; once Super Smash Bros 4 comes out, everyone will be buying it. We were promised a HD Zelda game, and are getting that, but in quite a different way; we are instead getting a remake of Wind Waker. I welcome that, but we need a new game. It'll be SSB4 that will make me buy this.
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Wii U should do fine. Just rember that although the Wii U isn't doing well, and people say there are no good games that aren't on the other consoles, the PS4 and Xbox One have sold exactly zero systems. Nintendo will be unavailing plenty of new games at E3, like the new Super Mario game, we might get something on Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros, and others like hopefully a Metroid, and possibly even a Pokemon game. Plus, it's Nintendo. I think it will be fine, even though there are problems with the system. But remember that the Wii was the weakest system of the last generation, but it outsold both other systems by a pretty wide margin.
Wii U should do fine. Just rember that although the Wii U isn't doing well, and people say there are no good games that aren't on the other consoles, the PS4 and Xbox One have sold exactly zero systems. Nintendo will be unavailing plenty of new games at E3, like the new Super Mario game, we might get something on Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros, and others like hopefully a Metroid, and possibly even a Pokemon game. Plus, it's Nintendo. I think it will be fine, even though there are problems with the system. But remember that the Wii was the weakest system of the last generation, but it outsold both other systems by a pretty wide margin.
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Tails the Fox : I'm looking forward to any Zelda game. So the new HD rumored remake of Wind Waker, and, of course, brand new title. Also SSB and a 3d Mario game; Galaxy was genius.

patar4097 : You make a good point. Wii U was a whole year ahead, and now they are in a way "re-releasing" the Wii U with all it's main attractions. It's as if this last 8 months have been "bonus" sales, and that after E3 is when it's going to really start the race.
Tails the Fox : I'm looking forward to any Zelda game. So the new HD rumored remake of Wind Waker, and, of course, brand new title. Also SSB and a 3d Mario game; Galaxy was genius.

patar4097 : You make a good point. Wii U was a whole year ahead, and now they are in a way "re-releasing" the Wii U with all it's main attractions. It's as if this last 8 months have been "bonus" sales, and that after E3 is when it's going to really start the race.
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I think Nintendo will lower the prices of games for the Wii u and lower the price of the Wii u so they will attract a bit more attention so more people will buy them.
They might announce some titles and make everybody excited and encourage them to buy a Wii u I know I'm not the only one excited for the new Super Smash Bros.
I think Nintendo will lower the prices of games for the Wii u and lower the price of the Wii u so they will attract a bit more attention so more people will buy them.
They might announce some titles and make everybody excited and encourage them to buy a Wii u I know I'm not the only one excited for the new Super Smash Bros.
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With the Xbox 1 fan base dropping the WiiU sales will definitely start to pick up. Also with a Zelda HD remake and a new SSB the game system will be alright for a few years as long as they continue to release decent games like a new Mario and hopefully a brand new Zelda at some point. Nintendo definitely needs to upgrade their console in a few years though, the specs in their system are by far the worse in the newest generation. So basically Nintendo will be alright because of the great games they tend to produce but they will need a successor to this console far before Microsoft or Sony will.
With the Xbox 1 fan base dropping the WiiU sales will definitely start to pick up. Also with a Zelda HD remake and a new SSB the game system will be alright for a few years as long as they continue to release decent games like a new Mario and hopefully a brand new Zelda at some point. Nintendo definitely needs to upgrade their console in a few years though, the specs in their system are by far the worse in the newest generation. So basically Nintendo will be alright because of the great games they tend to produce but they will need a successor to this console far before Microsoft or Sony will.
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RealBrickz : Like I said about the power of the console, and the graphics it can push out, the Wii won the last generation, although people don't want to admit it. It sold much more than the other two, almost by an embarrassing margin. As Nintendo as pretty much shown, the graphics are second to gameplay, which is what I'm hoping they show in the next year.

   And not that this will help sales or anything, but Nintendo just released a 1st party battery pack for the Wii U controller that will make the battery last about 8 hours with full charge. Huge improvement from before, giving another 3+ hours or so.
RealBrickz : Like I said about the power of the console, and the graphics it can push out, the Wii won the last generation, although people don't want to admit it. It sold much more than the other two, almost by an embarrassing margin. As Nintendo as pretty much shown, the graphics are second to gameplay, which is what I'm hoping they show in the next year.

   And not that this will help sales or anything, but Nintendo just released a 1st party battery pack for the Wii U controller that will make the battery last about 8 hours with full charge. Huge improvement from before, giving another 3+ hours or so.
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I was considering buying it, hoping that they would come out with some awesome games. The big thing that really brought me in is the huge touch screen controller. I can't wait to see how thay will be implemented into some really good games. From what I've heard, they are mooching off of people's youtube accounts. Whenever the person is doing a let's play on ther channel and its a Nintendo game, they are taking sone of their pay from them. That is pretty cruel if you ask me. But, I probably wont be buying a. WiiU for a while. I will most likely buy one when the price drops.
I was considering buying it, hoping that they would come out with some awesome games. The big thing that really brought me in is the huge touch screen controller. I can't wait to see how thay will be implemented into some really good games. From what I've heard, they are mooching off of people's youtube accounts. Whenever the person is doing a let's play on ther channel and its a Nintendo game, they are taking sone of their pay from them. That is pretty cruel if you ask me. But, I probably wont be buying a. WiiU for a while. I will most likely buy one when the price drops.
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The Wii U will do perfectly fine, trust me. They've all ready made progress with the Virtual Console, and they're already planning on showcasing several exclusive games at E3, such as:

A new Super Smash Bros
A new 3D Mario Game
Sonic Lost World
A new Zelda
Windwaker HD
etc

Plus, keep in mind that they even already have confirmation on stuff like Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, etc being released as system exclusives, which in itself give it a huge leverage.

Plus, we also all ready have New Super Mario Bros U out and ready to be played, with New Super Luigi U coming in as a HUGE DLC pack on the 20th (It's pretty much literally an entire remake of the game. You can get it for $20 on the eShop, or wait till about November or earlier for them to release it on Disc at $30).

And I don't even need to go into the reasons why the 3DS will succeed later in its lifetime. Nor do I want to.

But uh, no matter what, they will definitely pull through, they just need some time.
Unlike Microsoft.
The Wii U will do perfectly fine, trust me. They've all ready made progress with the Virtual Console, and they're already planning on showcasing several exclusive games at E3, such as:

A new Super Smash Bros
A new 3D Mario Game
Sonic Lost World
A new Zelda
Windwaker HD
etc

Plus, keep in mind that they even already have confirmation on stuff like Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, etc being released as system exclusives, which in itself give it a huge leverage.

Plus, we also all ready have New Super Mario Bros U out and ready to be played, with New Super Luigi U coming in as a HUGE DLC pack on the 20th (It's pretty much literally an entire remake of the game. You can get it for $20 on the eShop, or wait till about November or earlier for them to release it on Disc at $30).

And I don't even need to go into the reasons why the 3DS will succeed later in its lifetime. Nor do I want to.

But uh, no matter what, they will definitely pull through, they just need some time.
Unlike Microsoft.
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patar4097 : I can agree with what you're saying. I actually hope Nintendo does win the console war again just because they tend to focus on the game/story rather than graphics
patar4097 : I can agree with what you're saying. I actually hope Nintendo does win the console war again just because they tend to focus on the game/story rather than graphics
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I think that if Nintendo starts making Wii U games a lot more than they'll be back on track.
I think that if Nintendo starts making Wii U games a lot more than they'll be back on track.
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I don't think Nintendo made a mistake, they only released it for like 6 months and although it only has a couple games, they'll pick up with a lot of interesting titles in the future.
I don't think Nintendo made a mistake, they only released it for like 6 months and although it only has a couple games, they'll pick up with a lot of interesting titles in the future.
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Well as far as them producing consoles they are dead but they will be fine if they stick to licensing games and designing and making handheld's.
Well as far as them producing consoles they are dead but they will be fine if they stick to licensing games and designing and making handheld's.
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marcus047 : Despite that many people have said this, I disagree. The next few years I expect the Wii U to outsell the X Box One, yet does anyone speak of the downfall of Microsoft producing consoles? The Wii U is modest in sales, not completely lacking. And I think it's enough for the company to keep going.
marcus047 : Despite that many people have said this, I disagree. The next few years I expect the Wii U to outsell the X Box One, yet does anyone speak of the downfall of Microsoft producing consoles? The Wii U is modest in sales, not completely lacking. And I think it's enough for the company to keep going.
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Light Knight : Well, yeah. Many have said they don't expect Microsoft to make it through. I think they might keep enough Xbox fanboys around to go another generation, but so far, it isn't looking good. As far as Nintendo, they will do fine. The 3ds did bad at launch, and now it's doing terrific. It's just a matter of time really. The Wii U will probably not do as well as the PS4, but who knows really. But if they made another Mother game, that would be about 1 million+ Wii U's sold right there.
Light Knight : Well, yeah. Many have said they don't expect Microsoft to make it through. I think they might keep enough Xbox fanboys around to go another generation, but so far, it isn't looking good. As far as Nintendo, they will do fine. The 3ds did bad at launch, and now it's doing terrific. It's just a matter of time really. The Wii U will probably not do as well as the PS4, but who knows really. But if they made another Mother game, that would be about 1 million+ Wii U's sold right there.
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i was really scared for nintendo until the xbox one was announced and everyone hated it...and yes ,now that i see all the awesome first party games that are coming out i think nintendo should survive this. they beat sega, they can easily compete with microsoft and sony.
i was really scared for nintendo until the xbox one was announced and everyone hated it...and yes ,now that i see all the awesome first party games that are coming out i think nintendo should survive this. they beat sega, they can easily compete with microsoft and sony.
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I kinda feel the same way. Thw Wii U is doing a bit slow, but the moment they release the better games it'll perk up. I personally am waiting on the new metroid game. I heard that this will be the first 2 player co op metroid game(2nd player will be an optional Chozo) hearing about the Chozo gives me reason to think that this game will be focused around the revival of the Chozo. Which seems REALLY interesting to me
I kinda feel the same way. Thw Wii U is doing a bit slow, but the moment they release the better games it'll perk up. I personally am waiting on the new metroid game. I heard that this will be the first 2 player co op metroid game(2nd player will be an optional Chozo) hearing about the Chozo gives me reason to think that this game will be focused around the revival of the Chozo. Which seems REALLY interesting to me
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Light Knight : I agree, the wii U will diffidently out sell the Xboxone  simply because the xbox one has a ton of less desirable features, like you have to pay to play pre owned games and you can only play games on the original console you brought it on, but the Wii U has no really good game/titles releases except for New Super Mario. Nor does the Wii U have any features that appeal to people.
Light Knight : I agree, the wii U will diffidently out sell the Xboxone  simply because the xbox one has a ton of less desirable features, like you have to pay to play pre owned games and you can only play games on the original console you brought it on, but the Wii U has no really good game/titles releases except for New Super Mario. Nor does the Wii U have any features that appeal to people.
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So long as they keep their "Zelda Fans" Happy???
Nintendo will always make money.
Aside from that?
Everyone Loves Mario and Pokemon.
The Mario games are one thing but when I saw people pay money for "Pokemon Snap"? (A good $60.00 bare minimum at the time.)
I have no doubt that Nintendo could turn a profit. Particularly after a ten year adventure with handheld games alone. (Poor kids need glasses now. Not because they strained their eyes reading at night but because they played too many games on a handheld.)
The "Wii" was just a demonstration to competitors of power. They can turn a profit without the best console ever invented. (Let "Sony" and "Microsoft" destroy each other.)
What they did was smart practice. Stick to the money you know that you will get. (They had a new handheld like every two years.)
After Sega Tanked?
What would you do?
Sure "Playstation" took the teen crowd Then "Microsoft" came out of nowhere.
that was then. (2000-2002.)
Now?
Many are not even planing on buying a new system till at least the first year.
"Red Ring Of Death" (After thousands were spent?). No Backwards Compatibility or Digital Purchased Copy Carry Over? (Still the Asking Price is close to a used car?)

Nintendo is at least playing their business a little wiser than most.
Who would have thought that "Cartridges" of all things would still be around? Brand New Even?
(GameBoy Advance, Nintendo D.S. Etc, etc, etc.)
I can assure anyone that Nintendo will still be standing at the end of the year. Any Year.
The Facts and History is already there.
Good Luck.

Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.
So long as they keep their "Zelda Fans" Happy???
Nintendo will always make money.
Aside from that?
Everyone Loves Mario and Pokemon.
The Mario games are one thing but when I saw people pay money for "Pokemon Snap"? (A good $60.00 bare minimum at the time.)
I have no doubt that Nintendo could turn a profit. Particularly after a ten year adventure with handheld games alone. (Poor kids need glasses now. Not because they strained their eyes reading at night but because they played too many games on a handheld.)
The "Wii" was just a demonstration to competitors of power. They can turn a profit without the best console ever invented. (Let "Sony" and "Microsoft" destroy each other.)
What they did was smart practice. Stick to the money you know that you will get. (They had a new handheld like every two years.)
After Sega Tanked?
What would you do?
Sure "Playstation" took the teen crowd Then "Microsoft" came out of nowhere.
that was then. (2000-2002.)
Now?
Many are not even planing on buying a new system till at least the first year.
"Red Ring Of Death" (After thousands were spent?). No Backwards Compatibility or Digital Purchased Copy Carry Over? (Still the Asking Price is close to a used car?)

Nintendo is at least playing their business a little wiser than most.
Who would have thought that "Cartridges" of all things would still be around? Brand New Even?
(GameBoy Advance, Nintendo D.S. Etc, etc, etc.)
I can assure anyone that Nintendo will still be standing at the end of the year. Any Year.
The Facts and History is already there.
Good Luck.

Good Luck To All.
I'm done. Stick a fork in me.
Peace.
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