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Is "this generation's music" bad?

 
Do you like modern music or not?
Yes, I think it's good
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Hey guys, it's RDay. I want to start off by saying that this thread is not meant to be a shot aimed at anybody, because it might seem like that because of the recent posts in one of the newer threads. This topic has been on my mind for a little bit. 

Anyways, we've almost all heard the "My generation's music sucks!" or "I wish I was a kid in the 1970s because they had the best music" or something like that. I mean, I understand that you can like previous decades' music, but I don't understand when people talk trash about this generation's music. Yes, there are lots of bad songs and stuff, but that can be found in every generation. However, if you dig deep enough, you can find lots of good songs as well, albeit subjective to your taste in music. 

Well, as you can see, I'm fine with modern music. What about you? What are your thoughts on this?

Hey guys, it's RDay. I want to start off by saying that this thread is not meant to be a shot aimed at anybody, because it might seem like that because of the recent posts in one of the newer threads. This topic has been on my mind for a little bit. 

Anyways, we've almost all heard the "My generation's music sucks!" or "I wish I was a kid in the 1970s because they had the best music" or something like that. I mean, I understand that you can like previous decades' music, but I don't understand when people talk trash about this generation's music. Yes, there are lots of bad songs and stuff, but that can be found in every generation. However, if you dig deep enough, you can find lots of good songs as well, albeit subjective to your taste in music. 

Well, as you can see, I'm fine with modern music. What about you? What are your thoughts on this?

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Yes! THIS GENERATION DOESN'T HAVE RICK ROLL! RICK ROLL IS BEST MUSIC!

I'm mostly eh on this generations music. Some of it is good, and some of it is bad. Myself I'm more of a fan of j-pop (hope that doesn't bug anyone, but tbh I don't care much xp), and VGM. Some of the music is catchy though. But I will say that an increasing amount of the music seems to be inappropriate or has innuendos so... not saying j-pop doesn't have that, but still :p.
Yes! THIS GENERATION DOESN'T HAVE RICK ROLL! RICK ROLL IS BEST MUSIC!

I'm mostly eh on this generations music. Some of it is good, and some of it is bad. Myself I'm more of a fan of j-pop (hope that doesn't bug anyone, but tbh I don't care much xp), and VGM. Some of the music is catchy though. But I will say that an increasing amount of the music seems to be inappropriate or has innuendos so... not saying j-pop doesn't have that, but still :p.

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RDay13 : As I said before most of them are bad. Not good lyrics to the sound. And nowadays you don't really hear singers voice. Its mostly covered in tech and stuff. Whereas some singers do take point to try and keep the best past music alive but in their own way...to explain things. Like using their own voice playing whatever instrument and expressing the lyrics of a song which they have made themselves to help or teach people. That's what music is supposed to be about. Not everyone with out of line lyrics that don't make sense and use like certain type of lyrics that won't teach kids or people in general for helpful things. Which is why the 70's and up was the golden era of music. I won't lie I do try and still find some good hearted music in this generation which helps and makes you feel better but its really hard. Because of the non type music and the bad ones that overplays them.

That's why I tend to stick to past music since its easier that way. I'm up for listening new music of this era but ones that makes sense and can relate to the past music era in a way.
RDay13 : As I said before most of them are bad. Not good lyrics to the sound. And nowadays you don't really hear singers voice. Its mostly covered in tech and stuff. Whereas some singers do take point to try and keep the best past music alive but in their own way...to explain things. Like using their own voice playing whatever instrument and expressing the lyrics of a song which they have made themselves to help or teach people. That's what music is supposed to be about. Not everyone with out of line lyrics that don't make sense and use like certain type of lyrics that won't teach kids or people in general for helpful things. Which is why the 70's and up was the golden era of music. I won't lie I do try and still find some good hearted music in this generation which helps and makes you feel better but its really hard. Because of the non type music and the bad ones that overplays them.

That's why I tend to stick to past music since its easier that way. I'm up for listening new music of this era but ones that makes sense and can relate to the past music era in a way.

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I guess it's 50/50 for me, because I absolutely despise the mainstream music I hear everywhere, but some genres still get me rockin'.

I admit that good songs are good songs, regardless of the style or the author. However, the more popular genres aren't my taste, so I'm forced to listen to my music in the shadows and having to dig deep to find anything related to it.

Still, I would prefer I was a teen in the 1990s. The mainstream music back then was totally my style. I get overcome with envy when I see videos of old parties or music programs where I would fit, yet I wasn't even 10. If those parties or programs happened nowadays I would be a lot happier and energetic.
I guess it's 50/50 for me, because I absolutely despise the mainstream music I hear everywhere, but some genres still get me rockin'.

I admit that good songs are good songs, regardless of the style or the author. However, the more popular genres aren't my taste, so I'm forced to listen to my music in the shadows and having to dig deep to find anything related to it.

Still, I would prefer I was a teen in the 1990s. The mainstream music back then was totally my style. I get overcome with envy when I see videos of old parties or music programs where I would fit, yet I wasn't even 10. If those parties or programs happened nowadays I would be a lot happier and energetic.

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Yes. Literally every piece of music in this generation is bad. Totally. Music from the past or obscure music is totally the best man. because it's nice to criticize other people and try to make myself seem better because I don't like main stream stuff, that stuff's for dumb people. All lyrics now are terrible. Nostalgia glasses fuel my every being and I can't see anything that's good in this generation. because it all sucks. Because I criticize the entire generation from a couple of songs I've heard on the radio. That's all I know, but I am still adamant it sucks. No one sings for real, it's all machines now a day. Yadda yadda yadda everything that wasn't made in my childhood sucks.


Being serious, I don't think this generation's music sucks. When people say "This generation's music is bad", they're really only talking about the biggest pop stars. They're not my taste, but I can see why people like or dislike it. But to despise, hate, or anything of the sort just seems a little out of hand. Just don't hear it, nobody's forcing you too.
The world changes, and with that you must be open to the changes which form. This comes very in play with music. A lot of people are blinded, thinking that what they grew up is the best, and nothing that's made today has any good in it. But I think that the quality hasn't gone down. You could find annoying, hard to listen to music in any generation, but it doesn't get remembered. They're fads. Which are one letter away from fade, which is exactly what that music does, leaving only the absolute best to be remembered. Wait 10-15 year and the same thing will happen with this music.
Hell, even the "worst" music artists have some good songs. Justin Bieber has produced a couple of songs that are catchy and have a lot of heart in their lyrics. Taylor Swift has as well, and the list goes on.

So no, I don't think any music is "bad", and I think that people go overboard on the hatred and unaccepting of new things (Not just music) just because they're new.
Yes. Literally every piece of music in this generation is bad. Totally. Music from the past or obscure music is totally the best man. because it's nice to criticize other people and try to make myself seem better because I don't like main stream stuff, that stuff's for dumb people. All lyrics now are terrible. Nostalgia glasses fuel my every being and I can't see anything that's good in this generation. because it all sucks. Because I criticize the entire generation from a couple of songs I've heard on the radio. That's all I know, but I am still adamant it sucks. No one sings for real, it's all machines now a day. Yadda yadda yadda everything that wasn't made in my childhood sucks.


Being serious, I don't think this generation's music sucks. When people say "This generation's music is bad", they're really only talking about the biggest pop stars. They're not my taste, but I can see why people like or dislike it. But to despise, hate, or anything of the sort just seems a little out of hand. Just don't hear it, nobody's forcing you too.
The world changes, and with that you must be open to the changes which form. This comes very in play with music. A lot of people are blinded, thinking that what they grew up is the best, and nothing that's made today has any good in it. But I think that the quality hasn't gone down. You could find annoying, hard to listen to music in any generation, but it doesn't get remembered. They're fads. Which are one letter away from fade, which is exactly what that music does, leaving only the absolute best to be remembered. Wait 10-15 year and the same thing will happen with this music.
Hell, even the "worst" music artists have some good songs. Justin Bieber has produced a couple of songs that are catchy and have a lot of heart in their lyrics. Taylor Swift has as well, and the list goes on.

So no, I don't think any music is "bad", and I think that people go overboard on the hatred and unaccepting of new things (Not just music) just because they're new.


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I don't listen to what most people listen to.

BECAUSE 90% OF MY PLAYLIST IS LOVE LIVE! MUSIC!!111!

To answer the question, I think some of the music in this generation are bad. But some music are good. So is 70% bad and 30% good. I might be wrong.
I don't listen to what most people listen to.

BECAUSE 90% OF MY PLAYLIST IS LOVE LIVE! MUSIC!!111!

To answer the question, I think some of the music in this generation are bad. But some music are good. So is 70% bad and 30% good. I might be wrong.

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It's all a matter of opinion, really. My opinion? I don't know, I don't listen to what everyone else at my school usually listens to. My favorite genres are Heavy Metal/Hard Rock, Dubstep, or Video Game Music. In fact, it's all I listen to. A lot of the music from this generation is bad, I would name some examples but I'm not going to because somebody might like the song. Some if it is good though. It depends on what you mean when you say "this generation." You could either be talking about all those pop/hip-hop songs girls these days are into, or any song released in this generation. If it's any song released in this generation, then some of them are good and some of them are bad. But like I said, I can't give an easy opinion on this question because of what I listen to.
It's all a matter of opinion, really. My opinion? I don't know, I don't listen to what everyone else at my school usually listens to. My favorite genres are Heavy Metal/Hard Rock, Dubstep, or Video Game Music. In fact, it's all I listen to. A lot of the music from this generation is bad, I would name some examples but I'm not going to because somebody might like the song. Some if it is good though. It depends on what you mean when you say "this generation." You could either be talking about all those pop/hip-hop songs girls these days are into, or any song released in this generation. If it's any song released in this generation, then some of them are good and some of them are bad. But like I said, I can't give an easy opinion on this question because of what I listen to.

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Eniitan : I understand what you're saying, but your point about a lot of music these days is mostly tech is wrong in my opinion. Well, it's true that more and more music involve more and more technology, but I don't see how that is bad for music. Music is music, whether it's dubstep, rap, country, pop, etc. I understand your prefer purity of music, but music with tech is still music too, and in some songs, I think it makes it much better. 

EX Palen : I meant any genre, but of the last 10 or 15 years or so. It's good that you're one of the few that doesn't just stop at the overplayed radio songs and actually dives deeper into the field of music that is there today. 

maguc : Great post. You echoed my sentiments. You made a great point about how it's probably not just the music, but the whole idea of being afraid of change that a lot of people are afraid of. Nostalgia is great and all, but it doesn't mean you have to trash modern, present-day music, and songs that others like. 

LunarDarkness2 : Yes, I was talking about any song released in this generation. I agree with you, some are good, and some are bad. It's just trashing a generation's music because you are blinded by pure nostalgia and laziness is what is annoying. 



Eniitan : I understand what you're saying, but your point about a lot of music these days is mostly tech is wrong in my opinion. Well, it's true that more and more music involve more and more technology, but I don't see how that is bad for music. Music is music, whether it's dubstep, rap, country, pop, etc. I understand your prefer purity of music, but music with tech is still music too, and in some songs, I think it makes it much better. 

EX Palen : I meant any genre, but of the last 10 or 15 years or so. It's good that you're one of the few that doesn't just stop at the overplayed radio songs and actually dives deeper into the field of music that is there today. 

maguc : Great post. You echoed my sentiments. You made a great point about how it's probably not just the music, but the whole idea of being afraid of change that a lot of people are afraid of. Nostalgia is great and all, but it doesn't mean you have to trash modern, present-day music, and songs that others like. 

LunarDarkness2 : Yes, I was talking about any song released in this generation. I agree with you, some are good, and some are bad. It's just trashing a generation's music because you are blinded by pure nostalgia and laziness is what is annoying. 

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No matter what generation you live in, everyone will say that. Yeah, there's people who say they wish they lived in the 70's, but if they actually lived there, what would they see? They would see a bunch of legends, bit at the same time, a long list of bands that nobody knew or cared about.

On Monday, I was trying to remember the name of a band that I saw last year, they were big in the 60's and I couldn't know the name, so I looked up bands from the 60's and guess what? There are more than 1800 registered bands and musicians who performed in the 60's, I'm sure more than 90% of those were on the same level as what people think of some bands today.

In 50 years, hundreds of bands of today will be forgotten and only a few big ones will be remembered, and the same thing will happen, people in 50 years will wish they loved here because of just a few legends.
No matter what generation you live in, everyone will say that. Yeah, there's people who say they wish they lived in the 70's, but if they actually lived there, what would they see? They would see a bunch of legends, bit at the same time, a long list of bands that nobody knew or cared about.

On Monday, I was trying to remember the name of a band that I saw last year, they were big in the 60's and I couldn't know the name, so I looked up bands from the 60's and guess what? There are more than 1800 registered bands and musicians who performed in the 60's, I'm sure more than 90% of those were on the same level as what people think of some bands today.

In 50 years, hundreds of bands of today will be forgotten and only a few big ones will be remembered, and the same thing will happen, people in 50 years will wish they loved here because of just a few legends.

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RDay13 :

Oh my gosh, exactly. Nostalgia is the worst thing ever. It's just a dumb reason for liking anything.
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Oh my gosh, exactly. Nostalgia is the worst thing ever. It's just a dumb reason for liking anything.

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No, it's just music from the past that's romanticized. You see people say they wish they lived in the 70s/80s because of the artists lived then, but they seem to forget that for every really good musician there was tons of bad ones just like there is today who have been forgotten by most as time passed. It's not a case of the music being of different quality, more people having a skewed outlook. I also just think a lot of people say it because they want to feel special/ smarter than the crowd like on youtube.

I also get the feeling that those who seriously say there is no good music today haven't really bothered to look at anything but the mainstream trends. In that case you're certainly going to find a bunch of crap that will age pretty quickly.
No, it's just music from the past that's romanticized. You see people say they wish they lived in the 70s/80s because of the artists lived then, but they seem to forget that for every really good musician there was tons of bad ones just like there is today who have been forgotten by most as time passed. It's not a case of the music being of different quality, more people having a skewed outlook. I also just think a lot of people say it because they want to feel special/ smarter than the crowd like on youtube.

I also get the feeling that those who seriously say there is no good music today haven't really bothered to look at anything but the mainstream trends. In that case you're certainly going to find a bunch of crap that will age pretty quickly.

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While I don't like it, I can't quite say that it's bad. The thing is, most music nowadays is less about the tune/harmony and more about the lyrics. There are still many artists and music groups like Adele or Imagine Dragons or Taylor Swift that continue to focus on tunes, but then you got Lupe Fiasco and Kanye West and stuff who just try to move you with their words. Then there's those songs that are basically saying "I do this and drive this because I'm a millionaire, also drinking and sex" with no actual rhythm to it.
While I don't like it, I can't quite say that it's bad. The thing is, most music nowadays is less about the tune/harmony and more about the lyrics. There are still many artists and music groups like Adele or Imagine Dragons or Taylor Swift that continue to focus on tunes, but then you got Lupe Fiasco and Kanye West and stuff who just try to move you with their words. Then there's those songs that are basically saying "I do this and drive this because I'm a millionaire, also drinking and sex" with no actual rhythm to it.

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I won't say the more recent music is bad, but I will say that I don't care for it. I also have to points out that, while having more technologically oriented music can be it's own thing, it's really less of an art that way, depending on how it's done. In my personal observation, the new tech involved in music now is really only there to cover up the total mediocrity of the performer. Katy Perry is absolutely untalented. Taylor Swift is untalented as a singer, but I'll give her credit for writing her own material. Most of the newer songs are just a copy paste of literally every other song that was out not long before it, especially in the case of mainstream pop, so called "R&B" and modern country, there's little to no effort put into writing the lyrics and there's hardly any story being told. Basically, my point is this: If there really is objectively well crafted, musical art, it's buried very, very deep beneath the industry.
I won't say the more recent music is bad, but I will say that I don't care for it. I also have to points out that, while having more technologically oriented music can be it's own thing, it's really less of an art that way, depending on how it's done. In my personal observation, the new tech involved in music now is really only there to cover up the total mediocrity of the performer. Katy Perry is absolutely untalented. Taylor Swift is untalented as a singer, but I'll give her credit for writing her own material. Most of the newer songs are just a copy paste of literally every other song that was out not long before it, especially in the case of mainstream pop, so called "R&B" and modern country, there's little to no effort put into writing the lyrics and there's hardly any story being told. Basically, my point is this: If there really is objectively well crafted, musical art, it's buried very, very deep beneath the industry.

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It seems like there are not very many original ideas...
That's too generic of a question.
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I haven't listened to much real music lately, I usually just listen to music made by indie music makers if that is a thing. As they tend to be more unique with their music rather than just sing about all the horrible boyfriends/girlfriends they had. Though I don't think it's bad, but it certainly isn't good either.
I haven't listened to much real music lately, I usually just listen to music made by indie music makers if that is a thing. As they tend to be more unique with their music rather than just sing about all the horrible boyfriends/girlfriends they had. Though I don't think it's bad, but it certainly isn't good either.

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Eniitan :

RDay already said part of what I was going to say. The other part of what I was going to say is, no, that's not what music is for. It's an entertainment option, just like movies and video games. There can be songs that are helpful, but I've never heard of songs that help people, past or present. I usually hear crap about a relationship breakup or something else I don't care about when it comes to music from the 80s or something. But I don't listen to much 80s music anyways.
Eniitan :

RDay already said part of what I was going to say. The other part of what I was going to say is, no, that's not what music is for. It's an entertainment option, just like movies and video games. There can be songs that are helpful, but I've never heard of songs that help people, past or present. I usually hear crap about a relationship breakup or something else I don't care about when it comes to music from the 80s or something. But I don't listen to much 80s music anyways.

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   Really, it depends on your tastes actually. I mean, some people or many most people are putting most effort into making music, and even if you don't like official music, you can still listen to indie music, in which any music styles has much more choices and variety put into them. I mean, it could also be because of nostalgia, since you maybe grew up with those songs, such as grandpas and grandmas, most likely love to hear old songs. However, I think its half/half, mostly because I don't music really changed that much. They're appealing to today's generation, and previous songs appealed to the last generation.
   Really, it depends on your tastes actually. I mean, some people or many most people are putting most effort into making music, and even if you don't like official music, you can still listen to indie music, in which any music styles has much more choices and variety put into them. I mean, it could also be because of nostalgia, since you maybe grew up with those songs, such as grandpas and grandmas, most likely love to hear old songs. However, I think its half/half, mostly because I don't music really changed that much. They're appealing to today's generation, and previous songs appealed to the last generation.

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LunarDarkness2 :  *Sighs* Look everyone has different with thing with music and have different prospective of things. I'm not really here to debate anything just stating my own opinion of music, and you have yours. Lets leave it at that.

RDay13 : You again didn't get my post. I didn't say tech in music itself I said for when they do voices. As in for the singers. Not the music that plays with it.
LunarDarkness2 :  *Sighs* Look everyone has different with thing with music and have different prospective of things. I'm not really here to debate anything just stating my own opinion of music, and you have yours. Lets leave it at that.

RDay13 : You again didn't get my post. I didn't say tech in music itself I said for when they do voices. As in for the singers. Not the music that plays with it.

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Dubstep and nightcore exists. That's a good enough reason to warrant a 'bad' in my world.

It conveys nothing, it's just a """"catchy"""" remix of something that sounds good.

They aren't trying to prove anything. They aren't saying anything.
If someone is making music for something that is based on situations (like a movie soundtrack) I can understand having no meaning behind your words.

Nowadays all they convey is "oh bby sexy sexy and i lost my pickup truck drop the bass swag yolo"
Do you want an example of something like that? Because there's a rapper named Lil' B. He wrote a song called Ellen DeGeneres.

Conveying that he's swag and his girlfriend looks like ellen or something
Now compare this with something of meaning
Conveying things about moving forward and answering your calling and maybe something about friendship

Come on. Which one has more meaning, more effort, and just generally has more emotion in it?

So yes, most of it is bad, and they should feel bad. And despite me mentioning dubstep and nightcore, it certainly isn't limited to that.
Dubstep and nightcore exists. That's a good enough reason to warrant a 'bad' in my world.

It conveys nothing, it's just a """"catchy"""" remix of something that sounds good.

They aren't trying to prove anything. They aren't saying anything.
If someone is making music for something that is based on situations (like a movie soundtrack) I can understand having no meaning behind your words.

Nowadays all they convey is "oh bby sexy sexy and i lost my pickup truck drop the bass swag yolo"
Do you want an example of something like that? Because there's a rapper named Lil' B. He wrote a song called Ellen DeGeneres.

Conveying that he's swag and his girlfriend looks like ellen or something
Now compare this with something of meaning
Conveying things about moving forward and answering your calling and maybe something about friendship

Come on. Which one has more meaning, more effort, and just generally has more emotion in it?

So yes, most of it is bad, and they should feel bad. And despite me mentioning dubstep and nightcore, it certainly isn't limited to that.

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To be honest, yes. But there  are still some genres that are ok. The main culprit to this trash heap is the rap genre (in my opinion)
To be honest, yes. But there  are still some genres that are ok. The main culprit to this trash heap is the rap genre (in my opinion)

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