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Is it possible to love someone you don't respect?

 

01-02-15 03:17 PM
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There are many forms of love and also of respect.  Answer this as you see fit, but I'm not talking about 'obligatory' love.  I know there are many people who love a family member (but dislike and disrespect them) simply because they feel obligated by familial ties.

This is a pretty deep topic and requires a great deal of thought, in my opinion.  For one, it requires you to define how you respect someone.  Whether you say it's possible or not, please tell us why you think the way you do.  How do you define the respect?  What makes it possible?  How does it affect the 'love' if it -is- possible? If not respect, what are the requirements to love someone?

I know someone that questions her love for her significant other.  We were talking about this one day and she came to realize that her uncertainty was due to a lack of respect for her partner.  We got into a discussion about respect and love, so I thought it'd be interesting to ask all of you for your own opinions.

Personally (and as a Christian), I feel it is possible to love anyone with or without respect for the recipients.  Loving someone doesn't mean you have to approve of their choices, behaviors, or personalities... but that you simply acknowledge they are human beings (and creations of God).

However, the kind of love I give my spouse?  I do not think it is possible without respect.  Love is a form of admiration, and I don't believe it's possible to admire something that is not respectable.
There are many forms of love and also of respect.  Answer this as you see fit, but I'm not talking about 'obligatory' love.  I know there are many people who love a family member (but dislike and disrespect them) simply because they feel obligated by familial ties.

This is a pretty deep topic and requires a great deal of thought, in my opinion.  For one, it requires you to define how you respect someone.  Whether you say it's possible or not, please tell us why you think the way you do.  How do you define the respect?  What makes it possible?  How does it affect the 'love' if it -is- possible? If not respect, what are the requirements to love someone?

I know someone that questions her love for her significant other.  We were talking about this one day and she came to realize that her uncertainty was due to a lack of respect for her partner.  We got into a discussion about respect and love, so I thought it'd be interesting to ask all of you for your own opinions.

Personally (and as a Christian), I feel it is possible to love anyone with or without respect for the recipients.  Loving someone doesn't mean you have to approve of their choices, behaviors, or personalities... but that you simply acknowledge they are human beings (and creations of God).

However, the kind of love I give my spouse?  I do not think it is possible without respect.  Love is a form of admiration, and I don't believe it's possible to admire something that is not respectable.
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I don't think it is. When I meet somebody, they start out with my trust and my respect. But, when they break that trust or lose my respect, it is almost impossible to get it back. That being said, I don't love anybody, except my girlfriend and my parents and my sisters and brother. I have very little room for love since I have tossed aside way too much. 

You can respect somebody. You can love somebody. But, I don't think it is possible to love somebody you don't respect. If you don't love anybody, then I think the respect factor has already left the building. 
I don't think it is. When I meet somebody, they start out with my trust and my respect. But, when they break that trust or lose my respect, it is almost impossible to get it back. That being said, I don't love anybody, except my girlfriend and my parents and my sisters and brother. I have very little room for love since I have tossed aside way too much. 

You can respect somebody. You can love somebody. But, I don't think it is possible to love somebody you don't respect. If you don't love anybody, then I think the respect factor has already left the building. 
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I typically don't like talking about love, but I felt the need to post my opinion.

Yes.

I loved someone once, but they did terrible, terrible things. I basically lost all respect for them because they had just crossed the line. But I still had feelings for them, even though I didn't want to like them. It's a really bizarre situation, loving someone who you have no respect for, but it can happen sometimes.
I typically don't like talking about love, but I felt the need to post my opinion.

Yes.

I loved someone once, but they did terrible, terrible things. I basically lost all respect for them because they had just crossed the line. But I still had feelings for them, even though I didn't want to like them. It's a really bizarre situation, loving someone who you have no respect for, but it can happen sometimes.
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Love is a very complicated emotion. I think it goes much deeper than respect and might be more about personal preferences. I say this because when I think about basic love or the more complicated variety of romantic love, I think of the golden rule.

Do to others what you would have them do to you.

However, herein lies the problem. Another person may not mind doing something to or for you because they wouldn't mind you doing that same thing to or for them but you might not appreciate what they do to or for you because you would never dream of disrespecting them by doing that same thing to or for them because you really don't want them to do those things to or for you.

Clear as mud?

Now communication gets thrown into the mix. When you try to tell them that their standards bother you, they either get noticeably defensive or ignore the idea completely because these ideas are so foreign to way that they've done things for all their life that they can't identify what you're saying as applicable to their value system. Only drastic situations can cause their defenses to drop long enough to consider what you say. Usually these drastic situations occur when some form of extreme physical or emotional pain occurs simultaneously. Much like a child who's been told several times not to jump off of the roof of a building but does it anyway only to receive a broken leg as a means of negative reinforcement.

Imagine if the child will never receive any negative effect from jumping off the roof. Jumping off of the roof now has no negative consequences and therefore the child will never have any reason to cease or alter this behavior.

DID I JUST TOTALLY GO OFF-TOPIC? Dang.

Respect must be taught. Sometimes painfully. Basic love is supposed to be a gimme but more complex love must be earned through respect for others and oneself via the golden rule. If that RULE is broken in some way or not respected there must be consequences, sometimes painful.

Tell your friend there must be consequences.

(Oh, I think I murdered that reply...)
Love is a very complicated emotion. I think it goes much deeper than respect and might be more about personal preferences. I say this because when I think about basic love or the more complicated variety of romantic love, I think of the golden rule.

Do to others what you would have them do to you.

However, herein lies the problem. Another person may not mind doing something to or for you because they wouldn't mind you doing that same thing to or for them but you might not appreciate what they do to or for you because you would never dream of disrespecting them by doing that same thing to or for them because you really don't want them to do those things to or for you.

Clear as mud?

Now communication gets thrown into the mix. When you try to tell them that their standards bother you, they either get noticeably defensive or ignore the idea completely because these ideas are so foreign to way that they've done things for all their life that they can't identify what you're saying as applicable to their value system. Only drastic situations can cause their defenses to drop long enough to consider what you say. Usually these drastic situations occur when some form of extreme physical or emotional pain occurs simultaneously. Much like a child who's been told several times not to jump off of the roof of a building but does it anyway only to receive a broken leg as a means of negative reinforcement.

Imagine if the child will never receive any negative effect from jumping off the roof. Jumping off of the roof now has no negative consequences and therefore the child will never have any reason to cease or alter this behavior.

DID I JUST TOTALLY GO OFF-TOPIC? Dang.

Respect must be taught. Sometimes painfully. Basic love is supposed to be a gimme but more complex love must be earned through respect for others and oneself via the golden rule. If that RULE is broken in some way or not respected there must be consequences, sometimes painful.

Tell your friend there must be consequences.

(Oh, I think I murdered that reply...)
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It is possible to respect a person without respecting their choices. I'm going to go into theology a bit to answer your question (I hope I'm not too preachy!).

Delving into the book of Job, God allowed Satan to test Job to prove that Job would be faithful even if tempted sorely. Why did God not test Job Himself? Did it matter who inflicted the trials upon Job and his family? After all, God Himself tested Abraham in a most sore way. What loving parent would delight in setting their only child upon the altar to be sacrificed? I believe that God allowed the Devil to do so not only to prove that He was faithful, but also to respect the Devil's wishes (to an extent). Satan will never have the glory God has. His only joy is attempting to lead souls to their destruction. God's joy is leading souls to good, despite Satan's efforts. Why would He even allow Satan to tempt at all? Could He not have restrained him forever? I assert that we cannot know the good without also realizing the bad. "Every action deserves an equal and opposite reaction". By pushing against the bad, we will realize the good and will go further towards good. By supporting those weaker than us, we will grow stronger. We can respect people even if we do not love the choices they make. My belief is that true kindness is a form of respect and if we are kind without regret, then we respect the person we are kind to and understand, most of all.
It is possible to respect a person without respecting their choices. I'm going to go into theology a bit to answer your question (I hope I'm not too preachy!).

Delving into the book of Job, God allowed Satan to test Job to prove that Job would be faithful even if tempted sorely. Why did God not test Job Himself? Did it matter who inflicted the trials upon Job and his family? After all, God Himself tested Abraham in a most sore way. What loving parent would delight in setting their only child upon the altar to be sacrificed? I believe that God allowed the Devil to do so not only to prove that He was faithful, but also to respect the Devil's wishes (to an extent). Satan will never have the glory God has. His only joy is attempting to lead souls to their destruction. God's joy is leading souls to good, despite Satan's efforts. Why would He even allow Satan to tempt at all? Could He not have restrained him forever? I assert that we cannot know the good without also realizing the bad. "Every action deserves an equal and opposite reaction". By pushing against the bad, we will realize the good and will go further towards good. By supporting those weaker than us, we will grow stronger. We can respect people even if we do not love the choices they make. My belief is that true kindness is a form of respect and if we are kind without regret, then we respect the person we are kind to and understand, most of all.
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Hello Internet.
Hello "Singelli".

Normally I avoid this topic out of principal.
But,,, I'm going to give it a shot anyway.

When you love someone (like a partner) it is often said that "two become one".
So,,,
If one does not respect the other? Then It is akin to not respecting themself.

Short answer?
You can not love someone you do not respect.

After Bumbling Through The Current Video Game Scandals or Movements in recent times?
I Discovered so many other movements and divisions of people that I can not keep track of them.

"S.J.W.s", "3rd Wave Feminists", "Political Leftists and Righteys", "M.G.T.O.W.s" and any other collection of Acronyms that would make a servicemans head spin.

I discovered a few issues that touch on why all of these organizations have sprouted.

For some reason...
There is money in human division and misery.
Since there is a profit?
There will be no end to any of this mess.

The Funny Part?
The Solution is Simply Love and Respect.
They Go Hand in Hand. ("Once Upon A Time".)
Otherwise? We have all these organizations to take the place and fill the void that used to be filled with the "Love and Respect" between two people.

I think if more people understood that relationships take work?
Then there can "be a light at the end of the tunnel".
Just a thought.
I could be wrong.

I could be wrong about everything.
(I am not the most organized person these days.)
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Good Luck To All.
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Hello Internet.
Hello "Singelli".

Normally I avoid this topic out of principal.
But,,, I'm going to give it a shot anyway.

When you love someone (like a partner) it is often said that "two become one".
So,,,
If one does not respect the other? Then It is akin to not respecting themself.

Short answer?
You can not love someone you do not respect.

After Bumbling Through The Current Video Game Scandals or Movements in recent times?
I Discovered so many other movements and divisions of people that I can not keep track of them.

"S.J.W.s", "3rd Wave Feminists", "Political Leftists and Righteys", "M.G.T.O.W.s" and any other collection of Acronyms that would make a servicemans head spin.

I discovered a few issues that touch on why all of these organizations have sprouted.

For some reason...
There is money in human division and misery.
Since there is a profit?
There will be no end to any of this mess.

The Funny Part?
The Solution is Simply Love and Respect.
They Go Hand in Hand. ("Once Upon A Time".)
Otherwise? We have all these organizations to take the place and fill the void that used to be filled with the "Love and Respect" between two people.

I think if more people understood that relationships take work?
Then there can "be a light at the end of the tunnel".
Just a thought.
I could be wrong.

I could be wrong about everything.
(I am not the most organized person these days.)
Good Luck On Your Project.

Good Luck To All.
Peace.
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It all comes down to the definition you want to use for love.  If you take away the familial aspect, I don't believe you can really love a person wholly and unconditionally if you don't respect them.

When you respect someone, you care for their feelings, you know they're making the best decisions, you trust them to act in a manner when you're not around and you appreciate them for who they are.  You can love them and it's pure.

I imagine the people I don't respect.  I don't respect them for a variety of reasons but I simply cannot find myself wanting to develop relationships or have ties to them because I can't (a) trust them, (b) like them, and so on.

I say no.  I barely scratched the surface of the conversation but love is a deeply individual thing.  I have no idea how my wife experiences love for me or how my dog or my daughter experience love for me.  But I know they do.
It all comes down to the definition you want to use for love.  If you take away the familial aspect, I don't believe you can really love a person wholly and unconditionally if you don't respect them.

When you respect someone, you care for their feelings, you know they're making the best decisions, you trust them to act in a manner when you're not around and you appreciate them for who they are.  You can love them and it's pure.

I imagine the people I don't respect.  I don't respect them for a variety of reasons but I simply cannot find myself wanting to develop relationships or have ties to them because I can't (a) trust them, (b) like them, and so on.

I say no.  I barely scratched the surface of the conversation but love is a deeply individual thing.  I have no idea how my wife experiences love for me or how my dog or my daughter experience love for me.  But I know they do.
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To tell you the truth, I have made a whole lot of enemies over my lifetime in real life and I never really love them at all because they have really started a war with me, because the reason why I never really like them, they have something that has made me loose trust in them and if I loose trust with them, I feel like I really don't want to do anything for them such as liking them and doing things for them, mostly because that is mostly on who I am mostly.

So, in reality, if you show me no respect, I will not like you in anyway what so ever, even if you try to respect me once again, it will take a little while for me to like you once again, and I mean a little while.
To tell you the truth, I have made a whole lot of enemies over my lifetime in real life and I never really love them at all because they have really started a war with me, because the reason why I never really like them, they have something that has made me loose trust in them and if I loose trust with them, I feel like I really don't want to do anything for them such as liking them and doing things for them, mostly because that is mostly on who I am mostly.

So, in reality, if you show me no respect, I will not like you in anyway what so ever, even if you try to respect me once again, it will take a little while for me to like you once again, and I mean a little while.
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A loved one I have may do something so mind bogglingly awful to someone or even myself that I could lose respect for them, maybe even lose faith and trust in them as people in my lives, but I imagine that in that situation I would understand that there is more to that person than what it was that made me lose respect for them in the first place, and would still love them deeply regardless of my new found distaste and dwindling respect for them.
  So I say that you most certainly could love someone you do not have any respect for, though I don't feel like it makes sense to 'fall in love' with someone that you do not have any form of respect for, because then what is left to fall in love with?
A loved one I have may do something so mind bogglingly awful to someone or even myself that I could lose respect for them, maybe even lose faith and trust in them as people in my lives, but I imagine that in that situation I would understand that there is more to that person than what it was that made me lose respect for them in the first place, and would still love them deeply regardless of my new found distaste and dwindling respect for them.
  So I say that you most certainly could love someone you do not have any respect for, though I don't feel like it makes sense to 'fall in love' with someone that you do not have any form of respect for, because then what is left to fall in love with?
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Yes it is possible but it is very unlikely it happens sometimes but not all the time.
Yes it is possible but it is very unlikely it happens sometimes but not all the time.
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Not possible. But you could be friends. Not really love each other. If you do not like each other.
Not possible. But you could be friends. Not really love each other. If you do not like each other.
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Believe it or not but been there and done that. Sometimes the love will over come the fact that you despise the person you have zero respect for. If I could tell y`all why, I would but I cant. These things don't seem to have no logic in the end but to tell you otherwise, I would be lying.
Believe it or not but been there and done that. Sometimes the love will over come the fact that you despise the person you have zero respect for. If I could tell y`all why, I would but I cant. These things don't seem to have no logic in the end but to tell you otherwise, I would be lying.
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