The title pretty much says it all. It makes me sad, too, because there doesn't seem to be much activity in this forum anymore

Popeye116 :

Idk, I've been checking for new stuff here nearly every day.

Probably because the non-Christians minority got offended or something. That seems like a common reason nowadays. And I'm not talking on Vizzed, I mean throughout the USA it's a common reason.

I don't think your conjecture is right actually, tgags.  Instead, most of us big posters suddenly all had life changes which kept us quite busy.  It was really weird because it happened to all of us at the same time.  SoL@R and I were just talking about that recently, actually.  I myself have been feeling sad to see how quiet this forum is.  I'm hoping we can change that in the near future though.  Now that the first deadline of my new job is over, I should have more time. I'll need to clean up a few things in my life (my apartment, my habits *cough cough * ), but that shouldn't take too long I hope.

We'll need to get some good conversations going here Popeye, I agree.

honestly, I am sad that the forum is dying, because it really haven't been able to post all that much in it. There are still a few threads I want to get to, but am too afraid I will not be able to.

I really do think that this forum isn't that active anymore because the regulars have already posted in the big topics and no one else will step up to either make a new topic that we can post in or no one will step up and actually start a discussion about these things. Also, most of vizzed doesn't even bother looking through this forum because they are scared of what the conversation will be. The conversation here is normally pretty deep, and some people such as me don't know how to approach those kinds of deep topics without messing up and getting yelled at by the people who know their stuff. People Jair want to stay on the safe side of all of the Christians here and not post their thoughts if they are different. But sometimes a different point of view can really be a great thing.

To answer Popeye's question, this forum was moved to the rented forums because the concept of a rented forum makes it easier for it to have mods to mod this forum. For a long time, there were no designated mods because of fearing it would cause commotion with someone planning out the content in the forum. So it has nothing to do with the activeness of the forum that it is now a rented forum, but it's a decision that David decides to do so that it can be managed rightly.

As for the activeness of the forum, it's because some of us who post the most back in the day have been busy lately and haven't been posting stuff. There are definitely a lot of things that can be talked about in theology, ethics, current events, etc, but the big question is are there going to be people who call themselves Christians that are interested in talking about Bible and theology, or if there are nonChristians that are willing to converse with Christians about Christianity. Nonbelievers are more than welcome to ask questions or give comments in this forum, but everyone is still expected to do so respectfully and follow the rules of logic when posting. This is even more so when we are talking about theology and not go for the "because I believe in my heart that it's true" argument. (there is obviously existence of bad theology practices and analysis around that is not Bible-based, logic-based, or correct literature/document practices.)

play4fun :
Barathemos :
Singelli :
tgags123 :
Txgangsta :

I'm so glad to see this, I mean that there's a concern that Christian Conservatives is "dying".  It's good to see the concern because it means that there's still a need to discuss the things in life that actually mean something, from both a Christian and a non-Christian perspective.  I'm going to be bold and go out on a limb here, but the Bible (and Christianity for that matter) is the only "religious" book that addresses life's most controversial questions.  Wait, what?!  There are plenty of other books that does that.  No, I'm not talking about Hollywood scandals, world news events and "how to achieve enlightenment".  I'm talking about life's BIG questions.  How did the universe come into existence? Does God exist? And if so, what is He like? Why does man exist? What is our purpose for being here? Why is there evil and suffering in the world? What happens to us after we die?  These are the kinds of questions that people tend to disagree about and yet they are the very questions that the authors of the Bible tackle head on, chapter after chapter, book after book, and they do so absolutely consistently.  This is not a post and the place to start debating about this subject...yet.  I'm going to go off track a bit, but I'm just mentioning this because there's a definite reason why Christians and non-Christians come to this forum.  Some might come to mock and some are genuinely interested in...what?  The truth?  How do we (Christians) know it's the truth?  What makes our belief so special?  How can we claim it's the truth and nothing but the truth?  Because God said so?  What god?  In this day and age there are so many "gods", you have to define which one you are referring to.  Well, Christians claim to have the truth and the only one true God.  That's why I believe people come here.  People are looking for answers.  Sure, there's the odd one that's just wasting time and scoffing at the Christian faith, but that's to be expected.  True children of God have a responsibility to give answers when we're asked the questions.  1 Peter 3:15 -  But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord.  Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

That is why I am returning here, although I never really left.  I was just really busy with things in my private life as Singelli and play4fun already mentioned and I did not have time for "big posts".  I will however, do my best to contribute more often since I saw some new topics on the rise.  So please, do not leave.  Stay and ask away.  DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED!  I know I can sometimes be a bit frank and straight forward in my responses, but I do not want to sugar coat things.  I will be firm and will get personal in my response if you waste time and blaspheme the one true God that gave you life.  I have no issues if you disagree with me, but do so in a respectful manner.  I have on many occasions encouraged people to PM me if they want to rant about things that's not appropriate for a public response.  I welcome that and I want to re-iterate that invitation. 

I am looking forward to post here again and to share with you what I have learned in my Christian walk with God.

I don't see Christians yelling here, as much as atheists coming in and yelling at Christians, putting them down. (in their own forum).

When you're in someone's house show some respect to the owner!

And there is one user who (used to be regular here) who really should have been more than banned from this forum. :/


To be honest. . . I kinda want it to die. To many atheists trolling, and they're not being  banned over it, though one troll is nice every once in a while to make an example out of poor logic. =)

People just look down on people of faith. And the one debate that I wanted to have with play4fun I could not do cause of my work schedule. In fact, today, I got lucky, and I have the day off, due to rain. (plus that debate was supposed to take place during the spring, not summer when you have lot's of school jobs to roof.)

Yeah, there is a lot of fear that people will get yelled at for saying anything really. It's utter trash that people have to be defensive and angery when discussing these topics, ya know, but, for some reason. People like to get all to upset and make themselves out to be right in everything.

One problem is how if you make ONE mistake, or (supposedly) lost a debate once, it's as if you can never discuss that topic again. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Where's the fun in the discussion with that? And please, at least send a smiley every once in a while to lighten things up! sheeesh.

I actually have a problem with debates in general, without sandwich posting available anymore, you can't keep going back and forth with someone, (in a public manner for all to see). Leaving some debates in the dry, and being suspended for several days or even weeks till someone "bumps" the thread, at which point people have forgotten what was said, or, just don't feel like it anymore it's been so long. :/

I'm just sick of the bad logic used by some user's honestly though, ugh, they seem to think that by keeping on talking, and if they have the last word, they they win the debate, but, then again, I suppose that by being tactful, one could turn this around and make the other individual look just as foolish as Jesus made some of the Pharisees look. =)

I actually try to stay out of debates anymore cause my work life just takes so much time, and it's important to me that I am able to defend what I believe- and not play chicken out on account of real life- but I also have PC game to build, and that takes time. :/

Since friends respect each other more, I have my online friends all in a list to PM if I want to talk about something. We'll be more respectful of each other than strangers, and won't keep talking for the sake of having the last word, it's actually more of a conversation. And I enjoy that.

tgags12:

I think that if two airplanes's exhaust crossed each other in the sky, making a cross that these anti-religious people would get offended.

- Pat Robertson, after addressing a question about the cross being used in our schools and U.S. Government.

Sword legion :
"I don't see Christians yelling here, as much as atheists coming in and yelling at Christians, putting them down. (in their own forum)."
The point of the forum is to debate matters pertaining to Christianity. If its only for people to talk about how right it is, then it would be blatant discrimination not to allow other faith forums (as it is, it's already unfair).

As for trollign, the vast majority of comments in this forum are from christians. Even those that arent tend to be debating the logistics or authenticity of it. And thats not trolling, thats debating.
Almost no one has actually stated religion or those that follow it is wrong, stupid or evil. People have said they think its a negative force, but again, thats their opinion, and they dont convey it as forcefully as you are inferring.


Relating to the question at hand, playforfun's is the only correct one. Only global mods could do anything with the forum, making site rule enforcement unmanageable.
By davids own admission, thsi forum was only meant to be temporary, for his bible games site members to chat.