Okay this is just a thing I have noticed at school and kind of thought about for a while now. Why do girls go out with the dumb guys? Is it because they may look attractive or what? I mean they go out with the dudes that maybe look good physically, but deep down they are jerks and they will cheat on girls and go out with other people. I mean if they do this then they should know that some guys are jerks and just because they look good doesn't necessarily mean they will be true or honest. Know this doesn't go for every guy, and I don't want this to be used against me, but I am just saying that girls will go out with the typical dufus and then get their hearts broken, and then they cry about it and a few days later they are going out with the same ol' jerk. I mean how much sense does this make, they would rather go out with a cheating jerk then perhaps a slightly more shy or quiet but nice honest person. Is it maybe a deal with confidence or something, because I think girls tend to like guys who are more confident.


This is just a trend I have oicked up on at school and never really payed any attention to, I just thought it made no sense for nice girls to go out with jerks who they should know will probably cheat on them and yet they go out with them anyway. For example, I am a shy, quiet person, but I just seem to be ignored because girls would much rather go out with the popular jerks. This happens a lot, and a lot of guys in my school are ghetto, mean and they cheat on girls ALL the time but despite this, girls go out with them all the time knowing that the guy will just eventually dump them for someone else. I know they may look physically attractive, but deep down I'd say about a good 70% of those guys are jerks and they will probably cheat on them. I mean what does it take for a normal guy, not like a nerd or anything, but like an average guy to be noticed? Is confidence really all it takes, or does popularity and status have something to do with it? Or is it just because girls admire confidence and guys that are more sure of themselves? 

So my final question is, why do you think girls go out with dumb guys knowing they will get dumped or cheated on?

But please keep all vizzed rules applied here, no spamming or flaming and keep it cool okay? I don't want this to be one sided, so please everyone feel free to reply to this, but keep it cool.

Let me clarify one thing: This thread is a bit of a stereotype. It's not true for all girls, and vice versa.

Anyways, the "dumber" guys are usually more dare-devilish, outgoing, and dangerous. Also, they're almost always rebellious. Those "popular" girls (or those "cool" boys) think that if they date someone smart and less dangerous, their popularity rate'll go down.

Well, I mean, I've never dated before. But this is a guess.

I would like to think it has something to to with popularity...
Maybe that "dumb guy" is really popular, and the girl may want some more attention.

I have seen quite a few times that girls date certain guys just as a game, which is mean of course.
It seems many popular kids are impatient-ish...many times they could care less if some regular guy walked up and confessed their love, and just try to stay in with the crowd and date jocks and stuff.

It could also have to do with the environment that person may have grown up in. A negative environment certainly plays a role in these decisions.

But by no means are all girls like this...some decisions are really hard to interpret and may have their own meanings to that person only. 

No it's not that they go for the dumb guys, it's that they go for the a-holes (Which also are the dumb guys in most cases). My friend is the biggest a-hole to girls that you will ever meet and I feel like he has been with every girl in the school. Males and females think completely different, so there is no way to find out, unless a girl would care to explain.

tgags123 : agreed, and of course I know this doesn't apply to all girls, I am just pointing out that a lot of the girls especially in my school) seem to go out with these jerks and they end up crushed afterwards. 

I know that it has to do with confidence and popularity and I am certainly not saying that all girls are like this, because I know a lot of them that are quiet and don't say much, and there are still some who don't do this, but it just seems like some guys who are idiots go out with every girl in the school even though they are a complete jerk.

goodboy : good guess though, I have also never dated before, but I find it ridiculous that I try to talk to someone and they completely ignore me. It isn't like I am a fat, ugly slob or anything, but they prefer a dufus who will break their heart later on. I think it is just weird how some guys have to get advice and tips for this sort of things, whereas some bozo who is a popular jerk gets all the girls without even having to lift a finger. 

My thoughts are that it's for popularity or to be seen as awesome or whatever because they're going out with 'the cool guy' or whatever.

I also want to throw out there that the guys who care and will last seek advice and whatnot because they care about the girl and the relationship. At least, that's my reason.

tgags123 : What you said.

Razor-987 : The stereotypical girl seems to always go for the jerk. Many girls are attracted to confidence, carelessness, and "toughness"... though they very rarely admit it. It's because those characteristics are view as "manly". These same girls fail to see that true manliness is manifested as responsibility, hounour, confidence, and goodness. But the "popular" view of guys are that they should be reckless, irresponsible, and cocky. Just look at lead male character is many movies...

Yeah I agree with what Light Knight said, they fail to realize that responsibility and, honor and confidence are what truly matter, but instead they go for their reckless, arrogant, cocky guys instead because they are more confident about  themselves, I definitely think that is true.

As for what mrfe said, I think it is an issue with popularity, girls want to go out with the popular guys and vice versa, even if the guys is a complete jerk. But I also I agree that guys who really care will most likely get advice on this sort of thing. Good replies though guys. I agree completely. 

Well this explains a lot.
A lot.
Hm...(time to think)
Yeah, that's all I feel like saying here.

I think that the "dumb" guy you are referring to is the ones that are more outgoing, don't really care about school, they typically popular, and they are cocky jerks. I can understand what you are trying to say because there are plenty of idiots or "dumb" people that you refer to in our school. I totally agree with you.

Dumb guys and jerks are two completely different things. They can be associated with one another, but they're not the same. Because of that, I have to separate my answer into two;

I can't speak on behalf of all girls that ever dated not so bright boys (assuming you're talking about high school), but I think it's because dumb guys seem to be more romantically incline (without noticing it) and less boring than smart boys. That isn't always the case, though.

I remember in HS, I dated this smart guy that was two years my senior. He was really boring, I much rather spent most of my time with my best friend in HS (who is a girl, btw) than with him. For the romantically incline part, my friend dated this guy who wasn't very bright. For Valentine's Day, he went through a field of flowers to pick them up for his girlfriend; he got stung by bees and all. I remember that my friends and I thought that it was more romantic as opposed to buying a rose on the flower shop.

As for the jerks, no virgin girl can ever tell if a guy is a jerk or not. By virgin, I mean that she has never dated anyone before. I've never dated a jerk before, but I can tell you that they always act nice to girls they're interested in. And trust me, they're really good at acting. Because of that, girls will always think; 'maybe he's different' even when they're not! I don't really want to talk much about this subject, since I've always seen my friends get hurt over this.

Mistress : Well I guess I just mean jerks in general that make dumb decisions. I mean I know it is a confidence issue, but like 90% of the time I try talking to a girl, she ignores me and would rather talk to some athletic dufus who  had like 20 girlfriends prior and he dumps them. So I guess I just mean jerks who will make dumb decisions that end up crushing the girl's heart. 

I am a smart person, but it isn't like I talk about the science fair and all the boring features of my TI-84 silver addition calculator or anything, I know that is not really conversational material. I try to be nice and talk about things we both can relate to, like assignments in this one class or I might mention the funny teacher, but they just seem to say yeah okay and get it over with as soon as possible, and then that is when they talk to some jerk because he is just such a great guy or whatever. I just don't understand that, or fail to see the sense in doing that. 

If you want my advice, the best thing to do is tell them that you're willing to help out with an assignment they're struggling. Don't force a conversation with them. They're going to eventually need help with something, so that's the time that girls will go to you for help. When that time comes, don't be afraid to let out your type of personality when assisting those girls. If you have something funny in mind that's related to the topic that you guys are talking about, then don't be afraid to say it. Girls like guys who make them laugh; it makes them feel more comfortable around those guys. However, I do have to warn you not to force yourself to be funny. Most guys usually end up looking like a jerk to the girls if they do that.

Razor-987 : Self-confidence plays a huge role when you are looking to impress a girl, those dumb guys may not possess any intellectual capability to be praised, but I'm sure they have self-confidence (or are too stupid to not be confident?) when they are talking to a girl. Because first impression matters, the first thing they notice is their looks, posture, and how extrovert he is. That being said, you don't need to possess any of these if you are a interesting person with a nice variety interesting subjects to discuss with her.

When you get the girl you become the dumb guy. Simple as that. Also the dumb guy without the girl will be just as clueless as you are.

I would venture to guess that the girls are looking for what they can get out of the relationship, not about the person themselves. But being that they're girls, they get more emotionally attached while in the relationship which leads to them getting crushed later.
That's just my guess though. I'm a girl and I honestly am not attracted to those kinds of guys.

Mistress : You're right, dumb and jerk are two different things.

It's great if a girl really likes a guy who maybe isn't as smart, as long as he treats her right and they have a good relationship, good for them. But it's the jerks who other nice guys hate to see dating nice girls. As for the acting, other guys can usually see right through it, so it's good if virgin girls listen to their friends... but who honestly does when you have a crush, eh.

Well I didn't mean dumb as in like not knowing anything, I meant that they just make stupid decisions and end up breaking up with girls and taking advantage of them. That is what I meant when I said that. Some guys are just stupid and they will go out with girls left and right and just go out with them to say they did. They can't hold a relationship and they end up breaking the girl's heart, but despite this, girls go out with these kind of guys anyway. That is what I meant by dumb guys because they make dumb decisions. I really hate that sometimes, but most girls, not all, but most go out with those kinds of guys, I am not stereotyping because there are shy girls too. But a lot of girls I have noticed go out with these kinds of guys. 

Because they like to date the badass personified guy with the muscles etc etc its all because of pop culture even though its now cool to be hacker apperantly I don't see girls lined up outside my door

I do not find the guys that they go out with are all that dumb, but that may just be because of my school. The girls tend to hang around the guys that like to joke about and make them laugh and in some cases it ends up in a relationship. I am quite a comical guy so I am in some ways close to the girls. I am yet to actually have a girlfriend in secondary school but I have been asked out. Come to think of it I am regretting saying no because now I am rather into her two years ahead of that. Well I really do not know what to say, some choices of Boyfriend are dumb and others are pretty good. It is variable!