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If I get banned, it'd be because of this...
P.S. I will warn you. This is not personal to you. But parts may feel personal.

Rant 1: Pre-Menstruation Frustration...

I'm tired of hearing women complain about their period. Every time I point out their complaints I get the same retort: "What would you do if you bled out of your wiener every month?" Sorry, but if I learned that I'd be bleeding out of it every 28 days like clockwork from age 15 to age 40, I'd find a way to come to grips with it real fast and learn to plan it out. And if the process of bleeding made my crotch, stomach, and head hurt, then so be it. I'd find something to do sitting down, instead of finding problems with everyone else as if they caused the bleeding.

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Rant 2: If Christianity is the true way, buying a Bible is a Sin...

The Bible is the #1 Best-Selling book in history... But that's the problem! You'd think, if the Bible was the ACTUAL written word of God, that His book should never be sold for profit, right? Using this logic, I'm pretty sure selling the Holy Bible is in the same category as "Sin" as well.

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Rant 3: It's not sexism if you don't have a gender to hate...

I find it ironic that there's a political movement nowadays pushing pro-transexual agendas which includes backlash towards those with dissenting opinions, to which a common-enough argument towards "cis-hets" (those who accept their chromosomes) is for the dissenter to "stay in their assigned lane" a.k.a learn your place. But the whole existence of the transexual movement started when a guy/girl began to transition towards the opposite sex, but decided that "being in the middle" should be an option too. Sounds to me like the ones who need to "stay in their lane" are the ones who are currently driving on the yellow line. Doesn't matter if you merge, but stick to a single side as to not cause confusion. Even funnier when a purgatory-transexual claims that people who refuse to have sex with same-genital people (because they aren't attracted to similar genitals) are sexist because "my genitals don't define me!" True, but they do define who's willing to f*** you. Don't judge others if you don't want others judging you.

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Rant 4: The Internet brought out the worst in people, and I support the exact limitations and restrictions most internet-users fear.

Merely three decades ago, a person was considered crazy if they made friends with a book, or a picture. That sounds crazy, even as I say it, right? Words themselves can't truly be called friends, even if those words are being written by a real person. But when "animelover237" appears in your Discord bar, that little chime plays, and "wats up?" appears in front of you, somehow that causes a person to feel... warmth? and stay at their computer for HOURS longer than if they just wanted to play a game? People actually DATE words on a screen, even though the person behind those words will never meet face-to-face! You're feeling attraction to words on a screen! Find and befriend real people, otherwise the human population will never continue!
Merely three decades ago, a person who wanted to dress as and actually pretend to be an animal would honestly be considered mentally insane. Even more insane if that person wanted to have sex with an animal, or even have sex dressed as an animal with another person dressed as an animal! Doesn't that sound like there's a severe screw loose? How does the "There's something mental that went wrong" aspect change just because others exist that are also like that? Something mental clearly went wrong, why does everyone ignore this mutation like it's ok or funny?
Merely three decades ago, a person who shouted "Kill all whites!"" or "Kill all men!" or anything similar would be damned and criticized or thrown in jail for terrorist threats! Now there are movements RALLYING behind this EXACT sexism and racism that would've been unheard of merely three decades ago! Now we call these terrorists "Social Justice WARRIORS???" These people are criminal operatives!

Please share your thoughts. I wont judge you for hating me.
If I get banned, it'd be because of this...
P.S. I will warn you. This is not personal to you. But parts may feel personal.

Rant 1: Pre-Menstruation Frustration...

I'm tired of hearing women complain about their period. Every time I point out their complaints I get the same retort: "What would you do if you bled out of your wiener every month?" Sorry, but if I learned that I'd be bleeding out of it every 28 days like clockwork from age 15 to age 40, I'd find a way to come to grips with it real fast and learn to plan it out. And if the process of bleeding made my crotch, stomach, and head hurt, then so be it. I'd find something to do sitting down, instead of finding problems with everyone else as if they caused the bleeding.

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Rant 2: If Christianity is the true way, buying a Bible is a Sin...

The Bible is the #1 Best-Selling book in history... But that's the problem! You'd think, if the Bible was the ACTUAL written word of God, that His book should never be sold for profit, right? Using this logic, I'm pretty sure selling the Holy Bible is in the same category as "Sin" as well.

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Rant 3: It's not sexism if you don't have a gender to hate...

I find it ironic that there's a political movement nowadays pushing pro-transexual agendas which includes backlash towards those with dissenting opinions, to which a common-enough argument towards "cis-hets" (those who accept their chromosomes) is for the dissenter to "stay in their assigned lane" a.k.a learn your place. But the whole existence of the transexual movement started when a guy/girl began to transition towards the opposite sex, but decided that "being in the middle" should be an option too. Sounds to me like the ones who need to "stay in their lane" are the ones who are currently driving on the yellow line. Doesn't matter if you merge, but stick to a single side as to not cause confusion. Even funnier when a purgatory-transexual claims that people who refuse to have sex with same-genital people (because they aren't attracted to similar genitals) are sexist because "my genitals don't define me!" True, but they do define who's willing to f*** you. Don't judge others if you don't want others judging you.

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Rant 4: The Internet brought out the worst in people, and I support the exact limitations and restrictions most internet-users fear.

Merely three decades ago, a person was considered crazy if they made friends with a book, or a picture. That sounds crazy, even as I say it, right? Words themselves can't truly be called friends, even if those words are being written by a real person. But when "animelover237" appears in your Discord bar, that little chime plays, and "wats up?" appears in front of you, somehow that causes a person to feel... warmth? and stay at their computer for HOURS longer than if they just wanted to play a game? People actually DATE words on a screen, even though the person behind those words will never meet face-to-face! You're feeling attraction to words on a screen! Find and befriend real people, otherwise the human population will never continue!
Merely three decades ago, a person who wanted to dress as and actually pretend to be an animal would honestly be considered mentally insane. Even more insane if that person wanted to have sex with an animal, or even have sex dressed as an animal with another person dressed as an animal! Doesn't that sound like there's a severe screw loose? How does the "There's something mental that went wrong" aspect change just because others exist that are also like that? Something mental clearly went wrong, why does everyone ignore this mutation like it's ok or funny?
Merely three decades ago, a person who shouted "Kill all whites!"" or "Kill all men!" or anything similar would be damned and criticized or thrown in jail for terrorist threats! Now there are movements RALLYING behind this EXACT sexism and racism that would've been unheard of merely three decades ago! Now we call these terrorists "Social Justice WARRIORS???" These people are criminal operatives!

Please share your thoughts. I wont judge you for hating me.
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My biggest piece of advice is for you to get off the internet and stop believing stuff you read online.

1. You can't experience menstruation. It's a pretty terrible process and differes from person to person. Some people I know barely affects them, while others get cramps and pains so hard they can't leave their beds. Yes, people do learn to come to grips with it. If I say "I'm gonna punch you" before I punch you, no amount of preparing will make it hurt less.

2. I don't know much about religion, but as far as I recall The Bible is a recollection of stories by apostles and other sources.

3. This seems like you spend too much time on r/TumblrInAction. Wanting trans people to have respect and rights isn't "pushing an agenda", its just wanting to have basic human decency. Yes, there is the occasional person who goes too far, but they are a vocal minority and most people who are trans or pro-trans aren't anything like you described. This just sounds like a way for you to justify transphobic views.

4. Hey did you know before the internet stuff like letters existed? And people had friends or even lovers through letters? Wow, it's almost as if writing was just another way to express yourself. Yes, they are "just words on the screen", but the difference is that you are still talking to a human being, with unique feelings, opinions, and everything that makes a "real person". And hell, a lot of friendships/relationships that start purely text based develop into relationships when they can move together, and even then with the technology of calls and video calls there's still a good opportunity for it.

No one thinks furries or beastiality is good. Like it's still illegal and looked down upon

"Merely three decades ago, a person who shouted "Kill all whites!"" or "Kill all men!" or anything similar would be damned and criticized or thrown in jail for terrorist threats!" Seriously, get off the internet and go outside. These are usually extremely small scale groups that get a lot of attention for the very ridicoulesness you are advocating. No one takes them seriously, everyone makes fun of them, the term "Social Justic Warrior" is a joke nowadays, and most importantly there isn't a sustantible amount of people actually advocating these movements to actually be considered anything else but an echo chamber of people with really regressed views on the world.
My biggest piece of advice is for you to get off the internet and stop believing stuff you read online.

1. You can't experience menstruation. It's a pretty terrible process and differes from person to person. Some people I know barely affects them, while others get cramps and pains so hard they can't leave their beds. Yes, people do learn to come to grips with it. If I say "I'm gonna punch you" before I punch you, no amount of preparing will make it hurt less.

2. I don't know much about religion, but as far as I recall The Bible is a recollection of stories by apostles and other sources.

3. This seems like you spend too much time on r/TumblrInAction. Wanting trans people to have respect and rights isn't "pushing an agenda", its just wanting to have basic human decency. Yes, there is the occasional person who goes too far, but they are a vocal minority and most people who are trans or pro-trans aren't anything like you described. This just sounds like a way for you to justify transphobic views.

4. Hey did you know before the internet stuff like letters existed? And people had friends or even lovers through letters? Wow, it's almost as if writing was just another way to express yourself. Yes, they are "just words on the screen", but the difference is that you are still talking to a human being, with unique feelings, opinions, and everything that makes a "real person". And hell, a lot of friendships/relationships that start purely text based develop into relationships when they can move together, and even then with the technology of calls and video calls there's still a good opportunity for it.

No one thinks furries or beastiality is good. Like it's still illegal and looked down upon

"Merely three decades ago, a person who shouted "Kill all whites!"" or "Kill all men!" or anything similar would be damned and criticized or thrown in jail for terrorist threats!" Seriously, get off the internet and go outside. These are usually extremely small scale groups that get a lot of attention for the very ridicoulesness you are advocating. No one takes them seriously, everyone makes fun of them, the term "Social Justic Warrior" is a joke nowadays, and most importantly there isn't a sustantible amount of people actually advocating these movements to actually be considered anything else but an echo chamber of people with really regressed views on the world.
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There's not a doubt in my mind that this post is going to cause quite the stir, especially since there are a number of users of Vizzed that I've noticed have changed their username color from blue to pink or vice versa, or to grey. There are also a number of people that have e-dated I believe lol. Maybe that's good though, maybe it will result in dialogue and explanations from those people instead of anger and yelling.

1. I actually rarely hear girls and women complaining about periods. I would agree with you that it's a biological process that they just need to deal with, but to me it seems like most of them do, and do it quite well.

2. I agree with you in principle here, but you have to remember there are other factors involved. It costs money to print the Bible, to get the paper to print on, to transport it from where it is printed to where it is sold, etc. So you need to sell it for money, to cover those costs. I agree in principle the Bible should only be sold at the price needed to cover those costs, rather than for profit, but who would spend all the time to do it if they weren't going to be compensated for it?

3. Biologically, being non-binary is not a thing. You are either male or female, and that's that. However, I'm not going to tell you how to live your life. If you want to claim to be some other gender, that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with, however, is when people try to force that upon the rest of the world. For example, there are laws in New York City where you can be fined up to $200,000 for "misgendering" someone. First of all, that is a baltant violation of the First Amendment. It is also ridiculous, because although I believe people have the right to claim to be whatever they want, others also have the right to not play into their delusions if they don't want to. Personally, I will try to refer to transgender and non-binary people with the pronouns they prefer, out of respect for them as people. But I can understand why some people may not want to, and they should not be reprimanded for that, especially by the law. As for your comment about people that aren't attracted to trans people as being sexist or transphobic, I agree entirely. It is not transphobic if someone is turned off when they find out you have a penis, they just simply aren't attracted to penises.

4. I mostly disagree with you on this point. Books are concrete words that don't change. When you interact with someone online, you are talking to an actual person. I would never date someone that I haven't met in person, but I have a lot of friends that I've met online, and I see no problem with that.

5. I pretty much agree with the final point, saying to kill any group of people is bad. Threatening people is bad. Hating people because of their gender or race, regardless of what their gender or race is, is bad. People that think this way are certainly a very vocal minority, but they do exist.
There's not a doubt in my mind that this post is going to cause quite the stir, especially since there are a number of users of Vizzed that I've noticed have changed their username color from blue to pink or vice versa, or to grey. There are also a number of people that have e-dated I believe lol. Maybe that's good though, maybe it will result in dialogue and explanations from those people instead of anger and yelling.

1. I actually rarely hear girls and women complaining about periods. I would agree with you that it's a biological process that they just need to deal with, but to me it seems like most of them do, and do it quite well.

2. I agree with you in principle here, but you have to remember there are other factors involved. It costs money to print the Bible, to get the paper to print on, to transport it from where it is printed to where it is sold, etc. So you need to sell it for money, to cover those costs. I agree in principle the Bible should only be sold at the price needed to cover those costs, rather than for profit, but who would spend all the time to do it if they weren't going to be compensated for it?

3. Biologically, being non-binary is not a thing. You are either male or female, and that's that. However, I'm not going to tell you how to live your life. If you want to claim to be some other gender, that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. What I do have a problem with, however, is when people try to force that upon the rest of the world. For example, there are laws in New York City where you can be fined up to $200,000 for "misgendering" someone. First of all, that is a baltant violation of the First Amendment. It is also ridiculous, because although I believe people have the right to claim to be whatever they want, others also have the right to not play into their delusions if they don't want to. Personally, I will try to refer to transgender and non-binary people with the pronouns they prefer, out of respect for them as people. But I can understand why some people may not want to, and they should not be reprimanded for that, especially by the law. As for your comment about people that aren't attracted to trans people as being sexist or transphobic, I agree entirely. It is not transphobic if someone is turned off when they find out you have a penis, they just simply aren't attracted to penises.

4. I mostly disagree with you on this point. Books are concrete words that don't change. When you interact with someone online, you are talking to an actual person. I would never date someone that I haven't met in person, but I have a lot of friends that I've met online, and I see no problem with that.

5. I pretty much agree with the final point, saying to kill any group of people is bad. Threatening people is bad. Hating people because of their gender or race, regardless of what their gender or race is, is bad. People that think this way are certainly a very vocal minority, but they do exist.
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You realize most people aren't SJWs right? lol

the fact that you take them seriously just shows how ignorant you actually are to the issues they talk about.
You realize most people aren't SJWs right? lol

the fact that you take them seriously just shows how ignorant you actually are to the issues they talk about.
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tgags123 : The fine is actually very misinformed:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/transgender-pronouns-fine-nyc/

There is no fine for "misgendering" someone, the fine is for attacking or discriminating against transgender people.

Accidental misgenders are fine, and even if you do misgender on purpose you're just a pretty big jerk for no real reason. It's a simple change of words why would it even matter to you? You just have to say he instead of she or vice versa.

But the fine is still a big thing and it's for attacks and discrimination on people.

"The first amendment" only protects what you say from the goverment, not from other people
tgags123 : The fine is actually very misinformed:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/transgender-pronouns-fine-nyc/

There is no fine for "misgendering" someone, the fine is for attacking or discriminating against transgender people.

Accidental misgenders are fine, and even if you do misgender on purpose you're just a pretty big jerk for no real reason. It's a simple change of words why would it even matter to you? You just have to say he instead of she or vice versa.

But the fine is still a big thing and it's for attacks and discrimination on people.

"The first amendment" only protects what you say from the goverment, not from other people
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I was somewhat like you during my early teens but I grew out of it. Just stopped caring.

Periods are not something I can or even want to feel and experience. Why should I care enough to start an argument with a woman who is complaining about hers. I just take her word for it just like how she should take my word that getting kicked in the nether area hurts like hell. What is the point in faking pain. 

Same thing with trans people honestly. I will never understand a trans person. I just can't. It's not something I can remotely relate to. Doesn't mean I hate or disrespect them for what they want to do with their lives. If I meet someone who already transitioned, I just call them by their preferred pronoun from the start. If I know someone before they transition then yeah I might f*** up out of habit but with no ill intent behind it. 

At the end of the day they're not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The world will not end because one person feels unsure about their body or whatever. So why treat them like this huge issue. Treat them with respect and if they continue bothering you about it tell them you're not invested enough to care.

Regarding your last point, to me that's just a dumb statement. I'm perfectly able to separate my real life from my online activity. I will probably never give away my face or any more of my identity than I already have. I won't meet up with anyone. Yet I can still maintain friendships in both. There's also things like voice chat to actually somewhat confirm who you're talking to. And to be honest I don't care if the guy online is 50 years old. I don't care if he's been lying about his name or age for years. If he and I can talk about Pokemon or whatever we talk about and I can enjoy the conversation then it's no problem. Hell I used to be a compulsive liar myself, both IRL and online. But I was always me and I never bothered to fake anything about the things I like. Just some stories or trivial stuff.
I was somewhat like you during my early teens but I grew out of it. Just stopped caring.

Periods are not something I can or even want to feel and experience. Why should I care enough to start an argument with a woman who is complaining about hers. I just take her word for it just like how she should take my word that getting kicked in the nether area hurts like hell. What is the point in faking pain. 

Same thing with trans people honestly. I will never understand a trans person. I just can't. It's not something I can remotely relate to. Doesn't mean I hate or disrespect them for what they want to do with their lives. If I meet someone who already transitioned, I just call them by their preferred pronoun from the start. If I know someone before they transition then yeah I might f*** up out of habit but with no ill intent behind it. 

At the end of the day they're not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The world will not end because one person feels unsure about their body or whatever. So why treat them like this huge issue. Treat them with respect and if they continue bothering you about it tell them you're not invested enough to care.

Regarding your last point, to me that's just a dumb statement. I'm perfectly able to separate my real life from my online activity. I will probably never give away my face or any more of my identity than I already have. I won't meet up with anyone. Yet I can still maintain friendships in both. There's also things like voice chat to actually somewhat confirm who you're talking to. And to be honest I don't care if the guy online is 50 years old. I don't care if he's been lying about his name or age for years. If he and I can talk about Pokemon or whatever we talk about and I can enjoy the conversation then it's no problem. Hell I used to be a compulsive liar myself, both IRL and online. But I was always me and I never bothered to fake anything about the things I like. Just some stories or trivial stuff.
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Maguc : I understand, but misgendering is still included in that. Even the Snopes page you linked admits it, despite Snopes being a pretty left-leaning company. I never said accidental misgenders, I was just talking about misgendering someone in general. I suppose I should have been more specific, though. I agree that you are a pretty big jerk for purposely misgendering someone. I said in my first post that I will always try to use the proper pronouns or whatever just out of respect for trans people as people. But I don't agree with a fine for saying rude things. That's absurd, regardless of what the rude things you say are or who you say them to.

I also don't really understand your point about the First Amendment. 1A protects your from being punished by the government for the things that you say or write. With this fine, the government is punishing people for things that they are saying. It is a blatant and direct violation.
Maguc : I understand, but misgendering is still included in that. Even the Snopes page you linked admits it, despite Snopes being a pretty left-leaning company. I never said accidental misgenders, I was just talking about misgendering someone in general. I suppose I should have been more specific, though. I agree that you are a pretty big jerk for purposely misgendering someone. I said in my first post that I will always try to use the proper pronouns or whatever just out of respect for trans people as people. But I don't agree with a fine for saying rude things. That's absurd, regardless of what the rude things you say are or who you say them to.

I also don't really understand your point about the First Amendment. 1A protects your from being punished by the government for the things that you say or write. With this fine, the government is punishing people for things that they are saying. It is a blatant and direct violation.
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tgags123 : "I don't agree with a fine for saying rude things" except it's not just for saying rude things. As per my last post, it's for attacking and discriminating trans people. It's like saying:
"It's wrong for me to be reprimended for calling black people the N word, it's just me saying rude things". There is so much more than just the words, it's the context, intent and connotations of said words. It also includes things like public displays of hate and shaming trans people, attacking and killing them for just being trans, etc..

What I meant about the First Amendment is that it protects you from going to jail or being censored by what you say. It still allows you to be punished if what you say is racist/sexist/etc...
tgags123 : "I don't agree with a fine for saying rude things" except it's not just for saying rude things. As per my last post, it's for attacking and discriminating trans people. It's like saying:
"It's wrong for me to be reprimended for calling black people the N word, it's just me saying rude things". There is so much more than just the words, it's the context, intent and connotations of said words. It also includes things like public displays of hate and shaming trans people, attacking and killing them for just being trans, etc..

What I meant about the First Amendment is that it protects you from going to jail or being censored by what you say. It still allows you to be punished if what you say is racist/sexist/etc...
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Maguc : I'm fine with most of the law, it's the parts that restrict speech that I'm opposed to. I'm a libertarian and a hardcore free speech advocate, so for me this has a lot more to do with that than with pronouns or trans people. As for your example about calling a black person the N-word, I'm opposed to any legislation that seeks to punish people for doing that as well. It's a terrible thing to say, but you have the right to say it. However, any kind of physical attack or threats of physical attack should absolutely be illegal, and should result in some kind of police / government intervention.

It allows you to be punished by other private citizens or entities, such as your employer. If you get fired from your job for saying bad things about certain groups of people, I have no sympathy for you. This is different. This is a punishment from the government, which is something you should be protected from, as per the 1A.
Maguc : I'm fine with most of the law, it's the parts that restrict speech that I'm opposed to. I'm a libertarian and a hardcore free speech advocate, so for me this has a lot more to do with that than with pronouns or trans people. As for your example about calling a black person the N-word, I'm opposed to any legislation that seeks to punish people for doing that as well. It's a terrible thing to say, but you have the right to say it. However, any kind of physical attack or threats of physical attack should absolutely be illegal, and should result in some kind of police / government intervention.

It allows you to be punished by other private citizens or entities, such as your employer. If you get fired from your job for saying bad things about certain groups of people, I have no sympathy for you. This is different. This is a punishment from the government, which is something you should be protected from, as per the 1A.
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Very very excited for Zlinqx's reply to this thread. I'm not going to add much else, since Furret already pretty much perfectly voiced how I feel about this.
Very very excited for Zlinqx's reply to this thread. I'm not going to add much else, since Furret already pretty much perfectly voiced how I feel about this.
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I will avoid speaking of any of these topics specifically; mostly just because I'd rather not put forth the effort. Instead I'll say this:

The things you have mentioned are all things happening outside your control and very little to do with you. Even if they do have to do with you because some people have attacked you for what you say, even those attacks are outside of your control. The only thing that is within your control is how you respond to what you perceive.

What I'm getting to is this. Why concern ourselves over things which are not within our control? I could easily get wrapped up in some of these rants, but in the end, they mean so little to me because I try to keep my circle of concern about the same size as my circle of control.

You should try that, it's very liberating.
I will avoid speaking of any of these topics specifically; mostly just because I'd rather not put forth the effort. Instead I'll say this:

The things you have mentioned are all things happening outside your control and very little to do with you. Even if they do have to do with you because some people have attacked you for what you say, even those attacks are outside of your control. The only thing that is within your control is how you respond to what you perceive.

What I'm getting to is this. Why concern ourselves over things which are not within our control? I could easily get wrapped up in some of these rants, but in the end, they mean so little to me because I try to keep my circle of concern about the same size as my circle of control.

You should try that, it's very liberating.
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Before getting into the meat of your post I'd like to preface it by saying that I think it's good that your voicing your opinions. We need free discourse in order to develop our own ideas. Though I disagree with you, I do not hold any ill feelings towards you and I doubt most people responding to this thread do either, I simply wish to critique your post and possible broaden your views a little.

1. It is not that easy

Females in general have to deal with a lot of challenges that males don't. I'm not even going based off gender roles here but purely based on biology. Imagine having a child grow inside of you for 9 months making you very sensitive, prone to sudden mood swings and dependant on other people to do things for you. It is not always a pleasant process even if it may result in a lot of personal development. In a similar sense constantly having to deal with pain as a result of menstruation, simply due to the fact of having been born into body you have, is not very pleasant either.

Therefore I can understand why this would cause many to feel the need to complain. That is part of what humans do. When we encounter something bad we complain as a way of dealing with the process. Likewise it is easy to critique this and try to have a rational approach when you are not the one dealing with said problem. Although I can understand feeling some frustration from hearing this over and over, I would encourage trying to show some compassion and understanding rather than meeting it with a stone cold response. This will make people feel the need to complain less.

2. One cannot always strive for the ideal

As someone who is non religious, I don't have much to add here that hasn't already been said. Our society is based on money, it requires a lot of work to write out the bible in its many different revisions and versions. As much as people may want to sell it for free, they have responsibilties such as families take care of. Given that fact I think it's understandable they would require some compensation. Particularly when it's often not too large given the work that often needs to be put in. More expensive renditions are usually priced that way because of adding extra flair in the form of special covers, not because of the actual contents within.

3. Misconceptions

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions in this paragraph. Firstly, transsexual people do not identify with their assigned gender at birth. This does not mean disregarding the fact that you were in fact born with a particular set of chromosomes, otherwise you wouldn't call yourself part of this movement, since you are in fact acknowledging that you were born with a certain set of chromosomes. One should also note the fact that there are people who biologically do not fit into the classification of having a standard set of XX or XY chromosomes because of having certain biological conditions.

You also need to make the distinction here between sex and gender. Sex referring to what actual parts you have, and gender to the stereotypes and expectations associated with a certain sex meaning the social side of it. This feeling of not identifying with your assigned sex is in fact a documented condition known as "gender dysphoria". Everything we know indicates that people who experience this are in no way unable to be contributing normal members of society. Transsexual people want to be part of the opposing gender to the point where they are willing to go through treatment to have that type of biology (which is not a pleasant process may I add).

Given this, I see no problem in allowing people to make this transition if they feel strongly enough about it to take that kind of action. I think people feeling annoyed about this can and should be able to tolerate this. It should also be noted that there is a lot of division within the trans community as many (I would argue most) do not agree with the idea that there are 80 different genders. Many people feel that advocating this harm their ability to voice themselves and be heard in society.

4. Live and let live

In the end life is about the pursuit of happiness through finding a purpose and for most, being social is a core component of this. For some people this can be very difficult to find in their immediate surroundings but through the power of the internet this can be changed. People can make connections around the world and find others who they may relate to even more closely than those in real life. The anonymity of the internet has a profound effect on how we interact with each other, namely you often judge people based on their actions and thoughts rather than their physical appearance. Because of this you are able to get to know people much more intimately and much more quickly than you would outside of the internet. This is why people may feel comfortable sharing certain opinions or exploring viewpoints they may not otherwise.

It is true that people may have trouble regulating their activity online and make a distinction between their online and offline activities, I say that from my own experience. In some cases perhaps and they may need someone to push them to go outside their shell. However this is mainly a matter of personal development. Regulations that physically force people away will often do little help, in fact it may cause a lot of suffering as people start feeling alienated leading to the risk of mental problems. In order for an individual to truly develop as a person and find a good balance, this is a realization they need to come to themselves with the aid of the people around them.

Moving onto your second point, I do not think limiting the ability for people to express themselves here is going to do us any favors, if anything it seemingly legitimizes these opinions and allows for them to gain more support. You see many examples of this outside of the internet, as the attempt of many mass media outlets to ridicule or ignore candidates like Trump and Sanders ultimately lead to them having a huge amount of success. Not saying that makes either of them an incorrect pick by any means, I'm simply making a point. I believe that we need to be very careful in regulating freedom of expression. I think opinions that most of us agree are clearly morally wrong need to be met with reason and logic rather than simply swept away. This is also looking past the fact that many people do this for entirely different reasons. They may not really believe what they are advocating and are simply looking to get a reaction out of others.
Before getting into the meat of your post I'd like to preface it by saying that I think it's good that your voicing your opinions. We need free discourse in order to develop our own ideas. Though I disagree with you, I do not hold any ill feelings towards you and I doubt most people responding to this thread do either, I simply wish to critique your post and possible broaden your views a little.

1. It is not that easy

Females in general have to deal with a lot of challenges that males don't. I'm not even going based off gender roles here but purely based on biology. Imagine having a child grow inside of you for 9 months making you very sensitive, prone to sudden mood swings and dependant on other people to do things for you. It is not always a pleasant process even if it may result in a lot of personal development. In a similar sense constantly having to deal with pain as a result of menstruation, simply due to the fact of having been born into body you have, is not very pleasant either.

Therefore I can understand why this would cause many to feel the need to complain. That is part of what humans do. When we encounter something bad we complain as a way of dealing with the process. Likewise it is easy to critique this and try to have a rational approach when you are not the one dealing with said problem. Although I can understand feeling some frustration from hearing this over and over, I would encourage trying to show some compassion and understanding rather than meeting it with a stone cold response. This will make people feel the need to complain less.

2. One cannot always strive for the ideal

As someone who is non religious, I don't have much to add here that hasn't already been said. Our society is based on money, it requires a lot of work to write out the bible in its many different revisions and versions. As much as people may want to sell it for free, they have responsibilties such as families take care of. Given that fact I think it's understandable they would require some compensation. Particularly when it's often not too large given the work that often needs to be put in. More expensive renditions are usually priced that way because of adding extra flair in the form of special covers, not because of the actual contents within.

3. Misconceptions

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions in this paragraph. Firstly, transsexual people do not identify with their assigned gender at birth. This does not mean disregarding the fact that you were in fact born with a particular set of chromosomes, otherwise you wouldn't call yourself part of this movement, since you are in fact acknowledging that you were born with a certain set of chromosomes. One should also note the fact that there are people who biologically do not fit into the classification of having a standard set of XX or XY chromosomes because of having certain biological conditions.

You also need to make the distinction here between sex and gender. Sex referring to what actual parts you have, and gender to the stereotypes and expectations associated with a certain sex meaning the social side of it. This feeling of not identifying with your assigned sex is in fact a documented condition known as "gender dysphoria". Everything we know indicates that people who experience this are in no way unable to be contributing normal members of society. Transsexual people want to be part of the opposing gender to the point where they are willing to go through treatment to have that type of biology (which is not a pleasant process may I add).

Given this, I see no problem in allowing people to make this transition if they feel strongly enough about it to take that kind of action. I think people feeling annoyed about this can and should be able to tolerate this. It should also be noted that there is a lot of division within the trans community as many (I would argue most) do not agree with the idea that there are 80 different genders. Many people feel that advocating this harm their ability to voice themselves and be heard in society.

4. Live and let live

In the end life is about the pursuit of happiness through finding a purpose and for most, being social is a core component of this. For some people this can be very difficult to find in their immediate surroundings but through the power of the internet this can be changed. People can make connections around the world and find others who they may relate to even more closely than those in real life. The anonymity of the internet has a profound effect on how we interact with each other, namely you often judge people based on their actions and thoughts rather than their physical appearance. Because of this you are able to get to know people much more intimately and much more quickly than you would outside of the internet. This is why people may feel comfortable sharing certain opinions or exploring viewpoints they may not otherwise.

It is true that people may have trouble regulating their activity online and make a distinction between their online and offline activities, I say that from my own experience. In some cases perhaps and they may need someone to push them to go outside their shell. However this is mainly a matter of personal development. Regulations that physically force people away will often do little help, in fact it may cause a lot of suffering as people start feeling alienated leading to the risk of mental problems. In order for an individual to truly develop as a person and find a good balance, this is a realization they need to come to themselves with the aid of the people around them.

Moving onto your second point, I do not think limiting the ability for people to express themselves here is going to do us any favors, if anything it seemingly legitimizes these opinions and allows for them to gain more support. You see many examples of this outside of the internet, as the attempt of many mass media outlets to ridicule or ignore candidates like Trump and Sanders ultimately lead to them having a huge amount of success. Not saying that makes either of them an incorrect pick by any means, I'm simply making a point. I believe that we need to be very careful in regulating freedom of expression. I think opinions that most of us agree are clearly morally wrong need to be met with reason and logic rather than simply swept away. This is also looking past the fact that many people do this for entirely different reasons. They may not really believe what they are advocating and are simply looking to get a reaction out of others.
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Congrats You managed to trash religion, woman, genders and the internet all in one post.

Your last example is interesting because you say the internet brings out the worst in people and I agree, you just proved it LOL!

You are not forced into these things....

You don't have to listen to woman, you don't have to follow Christianity, you don't have to join facebook and add friends and you don't have to use the internet. You chose to do all 4 and now it has turned you into an angry social justice warrior stating every little thing wrong in the world.

The very people and things you hate you have become!

Sure you are technically not a woman, but then again, you sound like one on their period... the same ones you are complaining about in your post.
Congrats You managed to trash religion, woman, genders and the internet all in one post.

Your last example is interesting because you say the internet brings out the worst in people and I agree, you just proved it LOL!

You are not forced into these things....

You don't have to listen to woman, you don't have to follow Christianity, you don't have to join facebook and add friends and you don't have to use the internet. You chose to do all 4 and now it has turned you into an angry social justice warrior stating every little thing wrong in the world.

The very people and things you hate you have become!

Sure you are technically not a woman, but then again, you sound like one on their period... the same ones you are complaining about in your post.
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Alright, I've given this a few hours to stew, and I'm honestly impressed and happy so many people are stating their minds.

Maguc : Firstly, I should point out that I grew up without internet, and still enjoy life better when I'm not on it (ironic that I say this through the internet, right?). That being said, the inability to even browse a place like Youtube without hearing the same song and dance every week gets tiring. It's not that I believe what I'm hearing, it's that others do. And what I see online is actually affecting what people talk about in real life. Secondly, as far as the "vocal minorities and small scale groups" go, I urge you to read into my response to tgags and I will expound on it. Third, trading letters is honestly just as bad, if you think about it. It's still a piece of paper. Doesn't matter that you're trading paper with a real human, the emotion you're feeling stems from the existence or absence of a piece of paper, or even what is written on it. But after all this, I read each of your posts, and I'm glad you even took it upon yourself to fact-check the NYC fine (even though even if it's limited to "attacks and discrimination" it isn't hard in today's society for someone to claim that an accidental misgendering "felt like an attack" or "was in itself, discrimination") but I digress. From now on, you have my respect (or rather, I will respect whatever text comes attached to the name "Maguc" since I'll likely never meet you lol).

tgags123 : I actually wrote that first rant when I was 18 or 19. That was prevalent then, but you are correct. Even I notice complaints happening far less than they used to (on the flip side, I wrote the final rant minutes before posting the thread). I do respect that even though we don't always agree on every point I made, you had the decency to consider each bulletpoint thoughtfully. Btw, the idea that that "very vocal minority" exists is what I was ranting about. Before the internet was as widely-available as it is today, that "very vocal" group wouldn't have existed, because the second one single person spoke up like that, they'd be dismissed immediately and thrown in jail. Nowadays, they're given a nightly news slot or articles in magazines. Books by them are being published. And it all stems from the fact that individual thought is reinforced when the internet tells you others think like you do.

Gingercream1 : Of course not everyone is an SJW, I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about those that DO claim to be an SJW. Ignorant I am not, but it's because I've deeply read into the plights and problems these people claim exist that I'm now confused as to what the argument is even about. Most are advocating for issues that have been fixed for decades to be fixed once again. It's nonsense. I'd love to hear a bit more of your thoughts towards the rest of what I discussed as well, if you want.

Furret : And yet I'm 28-years old. Thank you for being so mature at such a young age, although it hurts to say that lol. I fully understand where you, Light Knight, and Zlinqx are coming from, the "live and let live, it doesn't affect my life" kinda style. I get it. I'm glad you feel that way.

Lexatom : Well, Zlinqx replied. Very respectfully, I might add. Do you have any thoughts on anything I talked about, though?

Light Knight : Noted, and I try. Except it's difficult when the current happenings are threatening to affect my life, or even actively affecting it. I work at a job where my overhead company is succumbing to political pressure and I have to deal with the backlash of it. My ex was part of multiple of these movements and bought into delusions she would've never heard of had she not been so tied up in the internet since childhood. My personal life is being slowly affected, and I'm forced to try to find solutions, even if I have no control to act on them. Just knowing a solution exists is good enough for me. Hence why I posted this, thoughts I would normally keep quiet about. Knowing people have their own opinions and ignoring the general pattern is... liberating. To use your word.

Zlinqx : I'm glad people are voicing their opinions too, whether they agree or disagree. I hope I don't get suspended from Vizzed for mass-liking nearly every post here. Anyway, to the meat of your post: For the most part, I agree with everything, and you put it in a way I couldn't detail myself if I was given hours. That said, I am going to point out that I hold no issue with people who've actually switched sexes. Those who've finished the conversion, or are even actively going through said conversion. However, I hold extreme contempt towards those who simply "want" to, or are "saving up" because usually (in my experience) that's a lie. Yes, this includes Drag or anyone who simply dresses up as the opposite sex and then demands to be called that as if they were. As far as the internet goes, all I'll add to what I originally said is this: If a person is shy or socially inept, is conversing with words on a screen really the most beneficial therapy? In other words, for someone afraid of heights, isn't boarding a flight a more helpful solution? Getting someone used to the exact situation they fear most?

JigSaw : And furries. I also trashed furries. And I fully realize the irony of using the internet to argue that the internet is making people more idiotic. To be fair, a person with a problem usually isn't bad, it only gets bad when a crowd comes together and thinks that problem is normal because "others are similar to me". A social justice warrior I am not, but I understand why you think I sound like the exact people I despise. Sigh, your comments never disappoint lol, and happy you've expressed your own opinion. All of these were honestly interesting and exciting to read.
Alright, I've given this a few hours to stew, and I'm honestly impressed and happy so many people are stating their minds.

Maguc : Firstly, I should point out that I grew up without internet, and still enjoy life better when I'm not on it (ironic that I say this through the internet, right?). That being said, the inability to even browse a place like Youtube without hearing the same song and dance every week gets tiring. It's not that I believe what I'm hearing, it's that others do. And what I see online is actually affecting what people talk about in real life. Secondly, as far as the "vocal minorities and small scale groups" go, I urge you to read into my response to tgags and I will expound on it. Third, trading letters is honestly just as bad, if you think about it. It's still a piece of paper. Doesn't matter that you're trading paper with a real human, the emotion you're feeling stems from the existence or absence of a piece of paper, or even what is written on it. But after all this, I read each of your posts, and I'm glad you even took it upon yourself to fact-check the NYC fine (even though even if it's limited to "attacks and discrimination" it isn't hard in today's society for someone to claim that an accidental misgendering "felt like an attack" or "was in itself, discrimination") but I digress. From now on, you have my respect (or rather, I will respect whatever text comes attached to the name "Maguc" since I'll likely never meet you lol).

tgags123 : I actually wrote that first rant when I was 18 or 19. That was prevalent then, but you are correct. Even I notice complaints happening far less than they used to (on the flip side, I wrote the final rant minutes before posting the thread). I do respect that even though we don't always agree on every point I made, you had the decency to consider each bulletpoint thoughtfully. Btw, the idea that that "very vocal minority" exists is what I was ranting about. Before the internet was as widely-available as it is today, that "very vocal" group wouldn't have existed, because the second one single person spoke up like that, they'd be dismissed immediately and thrown in jail. Nowadays, they're given a nightly news slot or articles in magazines. Books by them are being published. And it all stems from the fact that individual thought is reinforced when the internet tells you others think like you do.

Gingercream1 : Of course not everyone is an SJW, I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about those that DO claim to be an SJW. Ignorant I am not, but it's because I've deeply read into the plights and problems these people claim exist that I'm now confused as to what the argument is even about. Most are advocating for issues that have been fixed for decades to be fixed once again. It's nonsense. I'd love to hear a bit more of your thoughts towards the rest of what I discussed as well, if you want.

Furret : And yet I'm 28-years old. Thank you for being so mature at such a young age, although it hurts to say that lol. I fully understand where you, Light Knight, and Zlinqx are coming from, the "live and let live, it doesn't affect my life" kinda style. I get it. I'm glad you feel that way.

Lexatom : Well, Zlinqx replied. Very respectfully, I might add. Do you have any thoughts on anything I talked about, though?

Light Knight : Noted, and I try. Except it's difficult when the current happenings are threatening to affect my life, or even actively affecting it. I work at a job where my overhead company is succumbing to political pressure and I have to deal with the backlash of it. My ex was part of multiple of these movements and bought into delusions she would've never heard of had she not been so tied up in the internet since childhood. My personal life is being slowly affected, and I'm forced to try to find solutions, even if I have no control to act on them. Just knowing a solution exists is good enough for me. Hence why I posted this, thoughts I would normally keep quiet about. Knowing people have their own opinions and ignoring the general pattern is... liberating. To use your word.

Zlinqx : I'm glad people are voicing their opinions too, whether they agree or disagree. I hope I don't get suspended from Vizzed for mass-liking nearly every post here. Anyway, to the meat of your post: For the most part, I agree with everything, and you put it in a way I couldn't detail myself if I was given hours. That said, I am going to point out that I hold no issue with people who've actually switched sexes. Those who've finished the conversion, or are even actively going through said conversion. However, I hold extreme contempt towards those who simply "want" to, or are "saving up" because usually (in my experience) that's a lie. Yes, this includes Drag or anyone who simply dresses up as the opposite sex and then demands to be called that as if they were. As far as the internet goes, all I'll add to what I originally said is this: If a person is shy or socially inept, is conversing with words on a screen really the most beneficial therapy? In other words, for someone afraid of heights, isn't boarding a flight a more helpful solution? Getting someone used to the exact situation they fear most?

JigSaw : And furries. I also trashed furries. And I fully realize the irony of using the internet to argue that the internet is making people more idiotic. To be fair, a person with a problem usually isn't bad, it only gets bad when a crowd comes together and thinks that problem is normal because "others are similar to me". A social justice warrior I am not, but I understand why you think I sound like the exact people I despise. Sigh, your comments never disappoint lol, and happy you've expressed your own opinion. All of these were honestly interesting and exciting to read.
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Zeldisaster : The vocal minority has always existed, but you're right that now it is easier for them to gain a platform because of the internet. That being said, I don't think they would have been thrown in jail for speaking up, nor do I want them to now. In fact, I'd fight to have them freed, regardless of how much I may despise them and the things they advocated for. I don't mind them sharing their perspective in new articles or books, because I believe all opinions are valid and deserve to be heard. That way, the rest of us that are sane can deconstruct the ideas and discuss why they're bad, and maybe change the minds of some people that think that way in the process. You can't have progress without discussion and the free exchange of ideas.
Zeldisaster : The vocal minority has always existed, but you're right that now it is easier for them to gain a platform because of the internet. That being said, I don't think they would have been thrown in jail for speaking up, nor do I want them to now. In fact, I'd fight to have them freed, regardless of how much I may despise them and the things they advocated for. I don't mind them sharing their perspective in new articles or books, because I believe all opinions are valid and deserve to be heard. That way, the rest of us that are sane can deconstruct the ideas and discuss why they're bad, and maybe change the minds of some people that think that way in the process. You can't have progress without discussion and the free exchange of ideas.
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Zeldisaster : The fact that you're willing to have an open discussion about this already makes you more mature than most people who share your opinion on these matters. 

Peoples views don't matter too much as long as they're willing to listen. Age shouldn't play too big a part in this. 
Zeldisaster : The fact that you're willing to have an open discussion about this already makes you more mature than most people who share your opinion on these matters. 

Peoples views don't matter too much as long as they're willing to listen. Age shouldn't play too big a part in this. 
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NOTE: I wrote this whole post before seeing Zeldisaster's response or anything like that. If there are any misrepresentations because of this, I apologize. If this post comes off harshly, I don't mean for it to.

A lot of other people have already weighed in and said most of the things I was thinking, but I'm gonna weigh in too.

#1: The response given here clearly shows you don't understand. Do you really think women haven't already been "getting a grip on it and learning to plan it out"? Or "finding something to do sitting down", for that matter?

#2: Cost of materials, cost of labor, profit motivation? All very good reasons, considering this is a physical object being created. Not to mention the fact that this entire rant is based off of the assumption that the Bible is the Word of God and that it should not be sold for profit because of this, despite that idea never being stated in the Bible itself.

#3: As others in the thread have pointed out, it's not about accepting your chromosomes or not, it's about having a mental inability to accept the chromosomes you were born with without feeling wrong, with transitioning currently being the only way to treat the issue. I'm not gonna say too much about the "riding on the yellow line" part, since it's entirely based on opinion, but I will say that the people insisting that genitals don't matter when it comes to sexual attraction are a small minority since genitals being the basis of sexual attraction and not being a choice to freely make is a large part of the entire idea behind the LGBT movement.

#4: People have been forming long-distance relationships since it was possible to communicate with people over long distances. Just because you're not right next to each other doesn't mean you can't communicate deeply, especially when things like voice and video chat are more common and higher quality than they ever have been before. I've made a friend - a very good friend - who lives states away from me who I wouldn't have had the slightest chance of meeting outside of the Internet, and I connect with him and spend more time with him than a lot of people I've actually met in real life.

The next sections deserve another paragraph...First of all, furries do NOT equal bestiality, otherwise they wouldn't be horrified at all when someone in the group does end up being into bestiality. Furries weren't normalized by the Internet or anything, the fandom is literally older than the Internet itself is, to the point where early furry groups were communicating on bulletin board systems and organizing small conventions.

Finally, the "kill all whites" and "kill all men" people ARE damned and criticized, and are a much tinier minority than even the minorities you complained about earlier. You also demonstrated that you're not too knowledgeable about this, since you apparently weren't aware that "Social Justice Warrior" is a term used to mock exactly these sorts of people. Honestly, I don't have an issue with ranting or voicing controversial opinions - it only becomes an issue when those opinions are based on falsehoods, assumptions, and misrepresentations. Don't be taken aback by the extremely negative response to this post - just learn from what others have said and think a little more about how your viewpoints stack up with reality.
NOTE: I wrote this whole post before seeing Zeldisaster's response or anything like that. If there are any misrepresentations because of this, I apologize. If this post comes off harshly, I don't mean for it to.

A lot of other people have already weighed in and said most of the things I was thinking, but I'm gonna weigh in too.

#1: The response given here clearly shows you don't understand. Do you really think women haven't already been "getting a grip on it and learning to plan it out"? Or "finding something to do sitting down", for that matter?

#2: Cost of materials, cost of labor, profit motivation? All very good reasons, considering this is a physical object being created. Not to mention the fact that this entire rant is based off of the assumption that the Bible is the Word of God and that it should not be sold for profit because of this, despite that idea never being stated in the Bible itself.

#3: As others in the thread have pointed out, it's not about accepting your chromosomes or not, it's about having a mental inability to accept the chromosomes you were born with without feeling wrong, with transitioning currently being the only way to treat the issue. I'm not gonna say too much about the "riding on the yellow line" part, since it's entirely based on opinion, but I will say that the people insisting that genitals don't matter when it comes to sexual attraction are a small minority since genitals being the basis of sexual attraction and not being a choice to freely make is a large part of the entire idea behind the LGBT movement.

#4: People have been forming long-distance relationships since it was possible to communicate with people over long distances. Just because you're not right next to each other doesn't mean you can't communicate deeply, especially when things like voice and video chat are more common and higher quality than they ever have been before. I've made a friend - a very good friend - who lives states away from me who I wouldn't have had the slightest chance of meeting outside of the Internet, and I connect with him and spend more time with him than a lot of people I've actually met in real life.

The next sections deserve another paragraph...First of all, furries do NOT equal bestiality, otherwise they wouldn't be horrified at all when someone in the group does end up being into bestiality. Furries weren't normalized by the Internet or anything, the fandom is literally older than the Internet itself is, to the point where early furry groups were communicating on bulletin board systems and organizing small conventions.

Finally, the "kill all whites" and "kill all men" people ARE damned and criticized, and are a much tinier minority than even the minorities you complained about earlier. You also demonstrated that you're not too knowledgeable about this, since you apparently weren't aware that "Social Justice Warrior" is a term used to mock exactly these sorts of people. Honestly, I don't have an issue with ranting or voicing controversial opinions - it only becomes an issue when those opinions are based on falsehoods, assumptions, and misrepresentations. Don't be taken aback by the extremely negative response to this post - just learn from what others have said and think a little more about how your viewpoints stack up with reality.
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Zeldisaster :

Not really, to be honest, everything that I would say has already been said in here, although I did forget to say this: Never be afraid to discuss your opinion on here, you will not get banned for having an opinion, and I can respect that you are so open about this stuff, no matter how controversial they are.
Zeldisaster :

Not really, to be honest, everything that I would say has already been said in here, although I did forget to say this: Never be afraid to discuss your opinion on here, you will not get banned for having an opinion, and I can respect that you are so open about this stuff, no matter how controversial they are.
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Lexatom : You won't get banned, but I can confirm you will get a WHOOOLEE lot of dislikes lmao.

(Nah I probably deserved most of those to be honest, I don't remember exactly what I wrote but I know I was arrogant and rude about that kind of stuff when I was younger.)


I am impressed by the level of maturity maintained in this thread though. Thought for sure it was going to be a disaster, makes me happy that it isn't.
Lexatom : You won't get banned, but I can confirm you will get a WHOOOLEE lot of dislikes lmao.

(Nah I probably deserved most of those to be honest, I don't remember exactly what I wrote but I know I was arrogant and rude about that kind of stuff when I was younger.)


I am impressed by the level of maturity maintained in this thread though. Thought for sure it was going to be a disaster, makes me happy that it isn't.
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Most of what I was already going to say has already been said, but I do want to question you on what you mean by this.

"I'd find a way to come to grips with it real fast and learn to plan it out."

What do you mean by plan it out? Do you mean knowing when your period is happening, and adjusting your schedule based on that?

The best thing you can actually do is just be prepared for it since you can't actually tell exactly when you'll start having your period. There's a rough guideline yes- every 28 days, but it's normal for them to happen a few days before or a few days after. Taking (some types of) birth control will make periods more regular and follow the 28 days, yes. But not everyone uses birth control, or has access to them.

My point is you can't plan for it, unless you plan on doing nothing for a week basically. And you can't really do that either.

As a side note, I do appreciate you being very respectful in this thread. It honestly surprised me.
Most of what I was already going to say has already been said, but I do want to question you on what you mean by this.

"I'd find a way to come to grips with it real fast and learn to plan it out."

What do you mean by plan it out? Do you mean knowing when your period is happening, and adjusting your schedule based on that?

The best thing you can actually do is just be prepared for it since you can't actually tell exactly when you'll start having your period. There's a rough guideline yes- every 28 days, but it's normal for them to happen a few days before or a few days after. Taking (some types of) birth control will make periods more regular and follow the 28 days, yes. But not everyone uses birth control, or has access to them.

My point is you can't plan for it, unless you plan on doing nothing for a week basically. And you can't really do that either.

As a side note, I do appreciate you being very respectful in this thread. It honestly surprised me.
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