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09-15-16 01:39 PM
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Bangladesh is cover on blood as a result of rain and animal blood being washed up. Animal Blood- yes. Muslims celebrate Eid al-Adha  “Feast of Sacrifice”. They buy animals like cows or sheep and offer them as sacrifice to commemorate when Prophet Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son on God’s command. 

Now, my thread is in regards to the attacks they are receiving on social media- labels of Muslim being barbaric and a called to ban such celebration.personally think everyone is entitled to practice their own belief and we are not in a place to ban celebrations.

How do you feel about this celebration? Is anyone justified to call for a ban of this celebration because they call it barbaric?
If you don't mind sharing, what celebrations do you believe in that may be different in other cultures/religions?



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Bangladesh is cover on blood as a result of rain and animal blood being washed up. Animal Blood- yes. Muslims celebrate Eid al-Adha  “Feast of Sacrifice”. They buy animals like cows or sheep and offer them as sacrifice to commemorate when Prophet Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son on God’s command. 

Now, my thread is in regards to the attacks they are receiving on social media- labels of Muslim being barbaric and a called to ban such celebration.personally think everyone is entitled to practice their own belief and we are not in a place to ban celebrations.

How do you feel about this celebration? Is anyone justified to call for a ban of this celebration because they call it barbaric?
If you don't mind sharing, what celebrations do you believe in that may be different in other cultures/religions?



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3 things

1- there are several sects of Christianity i could name that practice acts a lot of people would consider unusual too, but i'm not gonna name them bc i don't want to start a fight. anyway, imagine me talking about one of them and then going "Christians do this" instead of "some Christians do this." see the point i'm trying to make here? u might wanna reword one of yr sentences. not trying offend; just trying to help

2- basically you think we'll be at ease to know that even though...
Muslims (*shudder!*) do this, it's in the Bible, so that could mean it's good? lol bro what r u trying to imply it's kind of scaring me tbh. like could u imagine a Muslim goin on this site and then saying "Christians do _, but it's in the Qur'an, so is it good?" lmao rip post rating 

3- regardless of whether it's a Christian or Muslim (or both) thing to do, i rlly don't like the idea of killing an animal for any other purpose than to eat it
3 things

1- there are several sects of Christianity i could name that practice acts a lot of people would consider unusual too, but i'm not gonna name them bc i don't want to start a fight. anyway, imagine me talking about one of them and then going "Christians do this" instead of "some Christians do this." see the point i'm trying to make here? u might wanna reword one of yr sentences. not trying offend; just trying to help

2- basically you think we'll be at ease to know that even though...
Muslims (*shudder!*) do this, it's in the Bible, so that could mean it's good? lol bro what r u trying to imply it's kind of scaring me tbh. like could u imagine a Muslim goin on this site and then saying "Christians do _, but it's in the Qur'an, so is it good?" lmao rip post rating 

3- regardless of whether it's a Christian or Muslim (or both) thing to do, i rlly don't like the idea of killing an animal for any other purpose than to eat it
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jlove92 : First of all, I do not understand exactly what you meant by "it is in the Bible, can we classify this specific event as bad?" I don't know if you are trying to say that if it's in the Bible, it should be acceptable or what? Frankly, I don't know what the Bible has to do with this, since the Bible is not even the holy book of Islam. 

I do not think this is "barbaric" at all. I think it's not the most sanitary thing (because of the rain), but I certainly don't think it's barbaric. If the rain hadn't come, this wouldn't really be an issue. 

" Does the Bible justify this action?" Why would Muslims need justification from the Bible? Does that mean Christians need justification from the Q'uran or the Torah or the Vedas? 

I don't think any of us are in a place where we can deem the beliefs and customs of people different from us as "barbaric". If you were a Muslim in Bangladesh, you would do the same without thinking it was weird or anything. 
jlove92 : First of all, I do not understand exactly what you meant by "it is in the Bible, can we classify this specific event as bad?" I don't know if you are trying to say that if it's in the Bible, it should be acceptable or what? Frankly, I don't know what the Bible has to do with this, since the Bible is not even the holy book of Islam. 

I do not think this is "barbaric" at all. I think it's not the most sanitary thing (because of the rain), but I certainly don't think it's barbaric. If the rain hadn't come, this wouldn't really be an issue. 

" Does the Bible justify this action?" Why would Muslims need justification from the Bible? Does that mean Christians need justification from the Q'uran or the Torah or the Vedas? 

I don't think any of us are in a place where we can deem the beliefs and customs of people different from us as "barbaric". If you were a Muslim in Bangladesh, you would do the same without thinking it was weird or anything. 
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That is really strange and If I saw it I would probably just walk home and get out of it. I don't know if this is a bad event as I'm not very religious. Though it is a strange event.
That is really strange and If I saw it I would probably just walk home and get out of it. I don't know if this is a bad event as I'm not very religious. Though it is a strange event.
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I can see why naming those acts would cause a
fight here. I am actually starting to study the Bible for the
first time and today I came across this news article about this river of blood in
Bangladesh and a many social media attacks on Muslims- being labeled as barbaric for this celebration.

I
personally think everyone is entitled to practice their own belief but, a point
that keeps coming up on the media is that a similar act of sacrifice was in the
Bible and so it is "acceptable" I honestly have read some things in
the Bible that I by no means find acceptable- we are in a different time now
but, nevertheless we are not in a place to ban anyone's religious practices
which is what it's been talked about - trying to stop this celebration because itt is "barbaric."

I agree with animals being killed for food but, we
cannot decide or ban other's religious beliefs- we can comment and express what
we would do in such position but, I think that's about all we can do. And I do agree with that point- If we were in Bangladesh it would not be weird to do this but, it seems that every time
some different culture or religion does something outside of the regular acceptable "norm" there's a movement
to ban it.

Perhaps needed to elaborate more on my post- I'll post this there. 

And no I am not throwing shade at them, I grew up in a town where santeria and black magic was practiced and still is- I've seen some crazy things far more than just sacrificing an animal so I am not against "shocked" by this celebration- but, wanted to have an idea of different views and opinions  here  

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I can see why naming those acts would cause a
fight here. I am actually starting to study the Bible for the
first time and today I came across this news article about this river of blood in
Bangladesh and a many social media attacks on Muslims- being labeled as barbaric for this celebration.

I
personally think everyone is entitled to practice their own belief but, a point
that keeps coming up on the media is that a similar act of sacrifice was in the
Bible and so it is "acceptable" I honestly have read some things in
the Bible that I by no means find acceptable- we are in a different time now
but, nevertheless we are not in a place to ban anyone's religious practices
which is what it's been talked about - trying to stop this celebration because itt is "barbaric."

I agree with animals being killed for food but, we
cannot decide or ban other's religious beliefs- we can comment and express what
we would do in such position but, I think that's about all we can do. And I do agree with that point- If we were in Bangladesh it would not be weird to do this but, it seems that every time
some different culture or religion does something outside of the regular acceptable "norm" there's a movement
to ban it.

Perhaps needed to elaborate more on my post- I'll post this there. 

And no I am not throwing shade at them, I grew up in a town where santeria and black magic was practiced and still is- I've seen some crazy things far more than just sacrificing an animal so I am not against "shocked" by this celebration- but, wanted to have an idea of different views and opinions  here  

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I'm assuming that these are primarily animal rights activists calling for the ban. It could certainly be a lot worse. I mean, it's not like they're passing their children through the fire to Adramelech. The only reason that Christians don't sacrifice a lamb and observe passover is because the mosaic laws were done away with when the Old Testament was nailed to the cross and that god no longer wants blood sacrifice and ritual, but a daily spiritual sacrifice. At least, that's what I gather.
I'm assuming that these are primarily animal rights activists calling for the ban. It could certainly be a lot worse. I mean, it's not like they're passing their children through the fire to Adramelech. The only reason that Christians don't sacrifice a lamb and observe passover is because the mosaic laws were done away with when the Old Testament was nailed to the cross and that god no longer wants blood sacrifice and ritual, but a daily spiritual sacrifice. At least, that's what I gather.
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As long as the death of the animals is not akin to torture (and I suspect the manner of their death is halal and it's fine), I don't find a moral problem with the celebration.
As long as the death of the animals is not akin to torture (and I suspect the manner of their death is halal and it's fine), I don't find a moral problem with the celebration.
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i have a problem with it because its edgy lmao
i have a problem with it because its edgy lmao
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Hmm,I am not sure what to make of it. I would think that is a biohazard with the blood about,even if it is diluted by rain. Now there are many customs and whatnot that are strange to Western eyes. Hell,they might think we are insane for having a tree indoors for Christmas.
Hmm,I am not sure what to make of it. I would think that is a biohazard with the blood about,even if it is diluted by rain. Now there are many customs and whatnot that are strange to Western eyes. Hell,they might think we are insane for having a tree indoors for Christmas.
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This isn't TOO barbaric since, you know, the tradition isn't "make the streets literally run with blood". The rain made this look horrific though, but that is more of an unfortunate coincidence than it is brutality.

While the events this commemorates is in the Bible, they don't follow that book as their worship. But they do agree on a few bits and pieces of it. But that is a whole other set of silliness for a different thread

m0ssb3rg935 : Pretty close there, but the reason we don't sacrifice is that because Christ gave Himself up as a sacrifice for us all, He ultimately fulfilled that covenant, making sacrifice no longer necessary. We now live free of those laws, but still bound by the moral laws. So while we need to behave, killing is not going to make things better for us, that's already been taken care of.
This isn't TOO barbaric since, you know, the tradition isn't "make the streets literally run with blood". The rain made this look horrific though, but that is more of an unfortunate coincidence than it is brutality.

While the events this commemorates is in the Bible, they don't follow that book as their worship. But they do agree on a few bits and pieces of it. But that is a whole other set of silliness for a different thread

m0ssb3rg935 : Pretty close there, but the reason we don't sacrifice is that because Christ gave Himself up as a sacrifice for us all, He ultimately fulfilled that covenant, making sacrifice no longer necessary. We now live free of those laws, but still bound by the moral laws. So while we need to behave, killing is not going to make things better for us, that's already been taken care of.
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jlove92 : I personally can,t see how anyone would be successful in banning this kind of practice from happening since different countries have different laws and while I agree that animals should not be killed for any other purpose other than food the only people that would be able to stop this would be their government and that,s assuming that they have one and while the rain will eventually wash away the blood it still does not look good to see people walking through rain water that is mixed with blood because you never know what kind of diseases these animals could have
jlove92 : I personally can,t see how anyone would be successful in banning this kind of practice from happening since different countries have different laws and while I agree that animals should not be killed for any other purpose other than food the only people that would be able to stop this would be their government and that,s assuming that they have one and while the rain will eventually wash away the blood it still does not look good to see people walking through rain water that is mixed with blood because you never know what kind of diseases these animals could have
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