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Hi guys I am here again with another thread to do with tv. I am sure most of you out there can agree today's tv isn't really the best thing that is happening as of now. For me in the past when I was young I always watched tv because there was always something on for me to watch and I never got bored and you know wheat's funny? I would usually watch for hours until its my bed time and I have my mother saying *Eni its time to go to bed now* and I would be like *Huh, but I just got back from school not long ago* then I would look at the time and say *Wow time sure goes by very quickly when watching a lot of things on tv....* that was how tv was back then it had everything upon everything any kid would want to watch it was fun. But now it uh....I dunno how to put it in a way. But you would understand what I mean to do with that right? So anyways what are your feelings to this?
Hi guys I am here again with another thread to do with tv. I am sure most of you out there can agree today's tv isn't really the best thing that is happening as of now. For me in the past when I was young I always watched tv because there was always something on for me to watch and I never got bored and you know wheat's funny? I would usually watch for hours until its my bed time and I have my mother saying *Eni its time to go to bed now* and I would be like *Huh, but I just got back from school not long ago* then I would look at the time and say *Wow time sure goes by very quickly when watching a lot of things on tv....* that was how tv was back then it had everything upon everything any kid would want to watch it was fun. But now it uh....I dunno how to put it in a way. But you would understand what I mean to do with that right? So anyways what are your feelings to this?
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Well, short answer is that I miss shows that were entirely family friendly and yet still funny so that I could watch them with my mom without her making comments about not liking all the lewd jokes. The Cosby Show and The Andy Griffith Show come to mind for old funny, yet wholesome shows. Then again, there were a ton of really stupid and cheesy shows back in the old days too.

Another thing I miss are good documentaries. You can't even trust Discovery or History Channel these days because half of their shows which pose as documentaries aren't actually (Ancient Aliens, some Shark Week shows which try to pass off fake footage as actual footage and find people to interview who have ridiculous views and call themselves an expert).


I feel like TV's gotten both worse in better in certain ways over the years. I guess comedy has always been hit and miss, and still is. There seem to be more story-based shows now that actually build from one episode to another and I think that's awesome. Acting and production value on those also is better now than it used to be.

I think many of the reality competition shows are cool as well (America's Got Talent, Survivor, Eurovision), but on the other hand there are a ton of "reality shows" of the other kind that just follow random weird people's lives, and those shows tend to be trash. And there are tons of those shows now.

To be honest though, I basically don't watch any TV now (or Netflix or movies, unless someone invites me to something). Twitch streams have basically replaced it for me since I can pop in and out without missing much and talk to the streamers or other viewers. I used to just watch Survivor and Mythbusters on TV, but now Mythbusters had its final season, so all I really do is a weekly Survivor night with my parents when that's airing.
Well, short answer is that I miss shows that were entirely family friendly and yet still funny so that I could watch them with my mom without her making comments about not liking all the lewd jokes. The Cosby Show and The Andy Griffith Show come to mind for old funny, yet wholesome shows. Then again, there were a ton of really stupid and cheesy shows back in the old days too.

Another thing I miss are good documentaries. You can't even trust Discovery or History Channel these days because half of their shows which pose as documentaries aren't actually (Ancient Aliens, some Shark Week shows which try to pass off fake footage as actual footage and find people to interview who have ridiculous views and call themselves an expert).


I feel like TV's gotten both worse in better in certain ways over the years. I guess comedy has always been hit and miss, and still is. There seem to be more story-based shows now that actually build from one episode to another and I think that's awesome. Acting and production value on those also is better now than it used to be.

I think many of the reality competition shows are cool as well (America's Got Talent, Survivor, Eurovision), but on the other hand there are a ton of "reality shows" of the other kind that just follow random weird people's lives, and those shows tend to be trash. And there are tons of those shows now.

To be honest though, I basically don't watch any TV now (or Netflix or movies, unless someone invites me to something). Twitch streams have basically replaced it for me since I can pop in and out without missing much and talk to the streamers or other viewers. I used to just watch Survivor and Mythbusters on TV, but now Mythbusters had its final season, so all I really do is a weekly Survivor night with my parents when that's airing.
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Linkums : Yeah...thats the sad thing about it sadly. It really is. Those are the most things that takes up TV and most of them are not even enjoyable. That's why I stopped watching TV. Anything I watch would either be on netflix or on my laptop since its easier to watch what I need. It would be the only way to enjoy shows that I once watched. I can agree for discovery and history channel I watched them one time and I saw what you just said about them is true. They don't show things that they used too. I mean I even watched those shows when I was younger. Because they showed good educational things like to help people to learn more about things. Which at the time they were not born for. But anyways its upsetting. So all we can do is just watch what we want to watch on out laptops or anywhere besides TV. :/
Linkums : Yeah...thats the sad thing about it sadly. It really is. Those are the most things that takes up TV and most of them are not even enjoyable. That's why I stopped watching TV. Anything I watch would either be on netflix or on my laptop since its easier to watch what I need. It would be the only way to enjoy shows that I once watched. I can agree for discovery and history channel I watched them one time and I saw what you just said about them is true. They don't show things that they used too. I mean I even watched those shows when I was younger. Because they showed good educational things like to help people to learn more about things. Which at the time they were not born for. But anyways its upsetting. So all we can do is just watch what we want to watch on out laptops or anywhere besides TV. :/
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There are so many shows today that start out good and slowly turn into something worse in an attempt to make money. I admire shows that stick to their guns and embrace their identity. Psych, for example. It's not a perfect show, but it's one that doesn't suffer from an identity crisis.

Also, the shows of yesteryear were often much more wholesome. No added sex scenes, language, etc. Linkums mentioned The Cosby Show and The Andy Griffith Show as examples, and they sure are good ones. iirc, Home Improvement is a pretty clean show, as well. But even many "clean" shows tend to be terrible. Disney and Nickelodeon live-action shows are riddled with cheap insults. What about humor that lasts?

Then there's the glamorization of violence that pervades many shows, even children's shows. Marketers are looking for more and more ways to sell violence while not offending parents (or even blatantly offending them). I could name a number of shows like this. Many might say Pokemon is in this category. So many shows expect us to take their violence and characters very seriously in a way that is detrimental to us. These shows tend to feature protagonists that are very unkind to others and enjoy taking advantage of others in order to get praise or to achieve some seemingly noble goal. Ash was like this. But Pokemon had a lot of humor, and didn't ask us to take it very seriously. And instead of going backwards, the show has matured. Ash has matured so much since he first debuted. Now he cares a lot more for his Pokemon, rather than just trying to "catch 'em all" and "be the best". There's a lot to learn from in this show. Pokemon is an excellent example of how to improve an already good show. It has definitely matured even if it's not as funny anymore. Aggressive marketing within a show can spoil a product. Pokemon is one of the most "guilty" of this, and yet it acknowledges this and doesn't try to hide its identity. That makes it worth a watch imo.
There are so many shows today that start out good and slowly turn into something worse in an attempt to make money. I admire shows that stick to their guns and embrace their identity. Psych, for example. It's not a perfect show, but it's one that doesn't suffer from an identity crisis.

Also, the shows of yesteryear were often much more wholesome. No added sex scenes, language, etc. Linkums mentioned The Cosby Show and The Andy Griffith Show as examples, and they sure are good ones. iirc, Home Improvement is a pretty clean show, as well. But even many "clean" shows tend to be terrible. Disney and Nickelodeon live-action shows are riddled with cheap insults. What about humor that lasts?

Then there's the glamorization of violence that pervades many shows, even children's shows. Marketers are looking for more and more ways to sell violence while not offending parents (or even blatantly offending them). I could name a number of shows like this. Many might say Pokemon is in this category. So many shows expect us to take their violence and characters very seriously in a way that is detrimental to us. These shows tend to feature protagonists that are very unkind to others and enjoy taking advantage of others in order to get praise or to achieve some seemingly noble goal. Ash was like this. But Pokemon had a lot of humor, and didn't ask us to take it very seriously. And instead of going backwards, the show has matured. Ash has matured so much since he first debuted. Now he cares a lot more for his Pokemon, rather than just trying to "catch 'em all" and "be the best". There's a lot to learn from in this show. Pokemon is an excellent example of how to improve an already good show. It has definitely matured even if it's not as funny anymore. Aggressive marketing within a show can spoil a product. Pokemon is one of the most "guilty" of this, and yet it acknowledges this and doesn't try to hide its identity. That makes it worth a watch imo.
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supernerd117 : Yeah I can understand what you say about that and all. But sadly I don't really watch pokemon anymore. As you stated its not funny as it used to be. I know by far ash has mature a lot from how he used to be. At times I always have a catch up new check for pokemon so I don't miss out a few things on my old favourite character. There are some good shows but then turn out bad after seasons. Now its just a miss and hit thing. Which is why I don't really bother trying to watch tv nowadays. I do respect what you have to say on your post to do with most things because its the truth. And that I can understand for.
supernerd117 : Yeah I can understand what you say about that and all. But sadly I don't really watch pokemon anymore. As you stated its not funny as it used to be. I know by far ash has mature a lot from how he used to be. At times I always have a catch up new check for pokemon so I don't miss out a few things on my old favourite character. There are some good shows but then turn out bad after seasons. Now its just a miss and hit thing. Which is why I don't really bother trying to watch tv nowadays. I do respect what you have to say on your post to do with most things because its the truth. And that I can understand for.
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I miss how TV was actually entertaining,back in the day. Back when they did not rely mainly on shock value or "reality" TV nonsense. Like Married With Children. Yes,a lot people disliked it,but it was fun to see the dynamics and the insults fly,but at the same time you saw how much Ed O'Neill (AL) did care for his family,even if they were misfits at times. I loved the insults between Al and Marcy (Amanda Bearse) as they rip into each other,but it was enjoyable to see and Marcy gave as good as she got.

This was back when people actually had a few brain cells,a spine and a sense of humor. It was not meant to be taken seriously,it was meant as fun. Maybe not wholesome fun,but still fun. Now shows go over the top,go under the bar,or are afraid to do anything that would upset people (read PCs and SJWs) or just stick to the same old thing because it worked before. I think the biggest reason for reality TV is one thing. Money. They do not have to spend as much to make a scripted reality TV show and the executives can pocket the money. Just like I loved the attitude era of WWE,they made it fun to watch. Now,they watered it down and made it bland.
I miss how TV was actually entertaining,back in the day. Back when they did not rely mainly on shock value or "reality" TV nonsense. Like Married With Children. Yes,a lot people disliked it,but it was fun to see the dynamics and the insults fly,but at the same time you saw how much Ed O'Neill (AL) did care for his family,even if they were misfits at times. I loved the insults between Al and Marcy (Amanda Bearse) as they rip into each other,but it was enjoyable to see and Marcy gave as good as she got.

This was back when people actually had a few brain cells,a spine and a sense of humor. It was not meant to be taken seriously,it was meant as fun. Maybe not wholesome fun,but still fun. Now shows go over the top,go under the bar,or are afraid to do anything that would upset people (read PCs and SJWs) or just stick to the same old thing because it worked before. I think the biggest reason for reality TV is one thing. Money. They do not have to spend as much to make a scripted reality TV show and the executives can pocket the money. Just like I loved the attitude era of WWE,they made it fun to watch. Now,they watered it down and made it bland.
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I miss the good cartoons. Right now there’s like 5 or 6 good cartoons, but back just 10 to 15 years ago, TV was lined up with dozens of the best cartoons.
I miss the good cartoons. Right now there’s like 5 or 6 good cartoons, but back just 10 to 15 years ago, TV was lined up with dozens of the best cartoons.
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Oldschool777 : Yeah back when everything was great. I don't mind reality shows. But not to the point that it is everywhere on my screen which got to be the case so I just stopped watching it. We all miss our shows and the best thing that happened on tv which is not quite rather boring...and year your right people do tv things for money now and don't care. :/

zanderlex : Oh yes. That I know how you are feeling to do with that. And yeah tv was lined up with the best cartoons. When you watched one another came on and then this was a pattern until maybe you were told to go to bed. It might had not been the case for you but for me it surely happened a lot. @.@
Oldschool777 : Yeah back when everything was great. I don't mind reality shows. But not to the point that it is everywhere on my screen which got to be the case so I just stopped watching it. We all miss our shows and the best thing that happened on tv which is not quite rather boring...and year your right people do tv things for money now and don't care. :/

zanderlex : Oh yes. That I know how you are feeling to do with that. And yeah tv was lined up with the best cartoons. When you watched one another came on and then this was a pattern until maybe you were told to go to bed. It might had not been the case for you but for me it surely happened a lot. @.@
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I mean,most reality stars are not even paid that well. They just ham it up and use their "acting" and try to land endorsements and other work. They are just schmucks that are trying to break into entertainment. This is why execs love reality tv. Most of the "stars" are paid considerably less than a regular tv actor.
I mean,most reality stars are not even paid that well. They just ham it up and use their "acting" and try to land endorsements and other work. They are just schmucks that are trying to break into entertainment. This is why execs love reality tv. Most of the "stars" are paid considerably less than a regular tv actor.
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Oldschool777 : I'm not surprised. That's the sad thing about it unfortunately. Which is why I don't bother trying to watch those sort of things if no effort is being no made to put into it. Its not hard to put in some effort and most would rather not. And then I say to myself what about your viewers? What would they think about what you are doing? Most would be upset with it. While some others won't really see into it that well sadly. :/
Oldschool777 : I'm not surprised. That's the sad thing about it unfortunately. Which is why I don't bother trying to watch those sort of things if no effort is being no made to put into it. Its not hard to put in some effort and most would rather not. And then I say to myself what about your viewers? What would they think about what you are doing? Most would be upset with it. While some others won't really see into it that well sadly. :/
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Well reality tv is basically the same format. Either follow someone around,script a fight,make them do a challenge or something like that. The execs just know that people just want to see schmucks on the screen that are like them or make them feel better about themselves.
Well reality tv is basically the same format. Either follow someone around,script a fight,make them do a challenge or something like that. The execs just know that people just want to see schmucks on the screen that are like them or make them feel better about themselves.
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Oldschool777 : Yeah I've seen that sort of thing happened. Its like...a show called eastenders very popular show in the UK. They haven't stopped with any of what you just said. And its pretty sad. Because in the past reality shows were pretty much worth watching. Which is why I grind and ignore what I don't bother seeing that would be of interest. To stop complaining about it and all. '-'
Oldschool777 : Yeah I've seen that sort of thing happened. Its like...a show called eastenders very popular show in the UK. They haven't stopped with any of what you just said. And its pretty sad. Because in the past reality shows were pretty much worth watching. Which is why I grind and ignore what I don't bother seeing that would be of interest. To stop complaining about it and all. '-'
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Maybe when Survivor first aired,it was worth watching. But they kept cranking them out and the old saying,"familiarity breeds discontent" comes into play. I mean,you can only script so many similar scenarios on a damn island. It kind of reminds me of what I saw on another site,that to boost ratings they would have to shrink the contestants to add a new wrinkle or two to the formula. What was once just a pest becomes a serious problem when in large numbers.
Maybe when Survivor first aired,it was worth watching. But they kept cranking them out and the old saying,"familiarity breeds discontent" comes into play. I mean,you can only script so many similar scenarios on a damn island. It kind of reminds me of what I saw on another site,that to boost ratings they would have to shrink the contestants to add a new wrinkle or two to the formula. What was once just a pest becomes a serious problem when in large numbers.
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Oldschool777 : Oh I see.....sorry to hear about that. Nowadays reality shows are just something out of the ordinary right? And I don't mean that in a good way....thats why its best not to watch them oldschool it would make you even more further upset. All I can say is just watch the shows that you love and ignore those are just not good. :/
Oldschool777 : Oh I see.....sorry to hear about that. Nowadays reality shows are just something out of the ordinary right? And I don't mean that in a good way....thats why its best not to watch them oldschool it would make you even more further upset. All I can say is just watch the shows that you love and ignore those are just not good. :/
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Given my volatile nature,that might be best. You have seen some of the stuff I do on here. If I do watch tv,oddly enough I do enjoy "How it is Made",a show about how stuff is made and it is interesting to see how it is done. "Mythbusters" is very awesome,too bad they ended their run,but all good things must end sometime. I do like "Big Bang Theory",just to see how neurotic Sheldon can get.
Given my volatile nature,that might be best. You have seen some of the stuff I do on here. If I do watch tv,oddly enough I do enjoy "How it is Made",a show about how stuff is made and it is interesting to see how it is done. "Mythbusters" is very awesome,too bad they ended their run,but all good things must end sometime. I do like "Big Bang Theory",just to see how neurotic Sheldon can get.
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Oldschool777 : I wasn't a big fan of the big bang theory. But I did watch it sometimes and enjoyed the show in a way some episodes I found funny. While some were not so funny to me either way it was still fun to watch at times.
Oldschool777 : I wasn't a big fan of the big bang theory. But I did watch it sometimes and enjoyed the show in a way some episodes I found funny. While some were not so funny to me either way it was still fun to watch at times.
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Star wars were really great episodes at that time...and really seemed original in contrast to todays episodes...
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abhisek : Sorry to hear. Even star wars I knew that was good to watch back in the past is not as good as it is now? That goes to show how many shows are flopping real badly.
abhisek : Sorry to hear. Even star wars I knew that was good to watch back in the past is not as good as it is now? That goes to show how many shows are flopping real badly.
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As someone that rarely watches TV on my own, I'm not entirely familiar with all of the new shows and cartoons that air nowadays. I do however, have a younger brother who watches TV every day in the living room and also records his cartoons onto the DVR space. Because of this, I've become acquainted with some of the modern cartoons of today, and in all honesty, they really don't compare to the cartoons of the 90's and early 2000's. I grew up watching shows like Samurai Jack, Kids Next Door, Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and even older shows like Tom and Jerry, Yosemite Sam, Bugs Bunny, etc. 

Looking at some of the shows of today, I've realized that they heavily rely on vulgar humor to elicit laughs. You have characters nowadays that are 1-dimensional, lack character development, and largely depend on crude humor to get laughs. I'm certainly not saying that all of today's cartoons are awful (Avatar the Legend of Korra is actually pretty decent) because not every cartoon in the 90's and early 2000's was a masterpiece, but it seems like the cartoons of today have focused more on quantity than quality. This is how you end up with garbage shows like Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners (I watched it once.....it almost gave me cancer), Uncle Grandpa (another awful one), and arguably the worst one on this list....Fanboy and Chum Chum. Almost all of these shows rely on some form of crass nonsense to "appeal" to the viewers (I know for a fact that Sanjay and Craig, and Breadwinners count on butt jokes and breaking wind for humor, not to mention that Uncle Grandpa might as well be an acid trip with the amount of chaos and noise that occurs with each episode...shows like this are too chaotic and surreal to make sense of what is happening). 


On the flip-side however, I will admit that many of the cartoons of today have come a long way as far as animation is concerned. Overall though, the trade-off in quality and plot/interesting characters for better animation just isn't worth it. Even though cartoons are constantly written according to the tastes and interests of each generation, I still don't understand what caused cartoons to change to drastically in such a short time span. Take Danny Phantom for instance, the main character, Danny is a 14 year high school student that became a ghost as a result of entering his parent's ghost portal which he accidentally turns on. As a half ghost he becomes aware of his powers and uses them to protect his town from evil ghosts (all while keeping his ghost powers a secret). Cool right? Now let's compare it to Uncle Grandpa which is more or less about and old man (The Uncle and Grandpa of every person in the world), a talking dinosaur, piece of pizza, and a giant tiger that drive around in an RV and babysit/help children with their problems. Perhaps it's because I've grown up, and I no longer have the mindset of a child, but I doubt that I would've considered a show like Uncle Grandpa to be funny. Even if you don't like Danny Phantom, or if you think this is a bad comparison, I can guarantee that if you read the summaries of some of the shows of today, you would more than likely cringe a lot more than you would at the summaries of some of the older cartoons. This is just my outlook on the cartoons of today, you don't have to agree with my opinion, but I hope you can understand where I am coming from with this. 
As someone that rarely watches TV on my own, I'm not entirely familiar with all of the new shows and cartoons that air nowadays. I do however, have a younger brother who watches TV every day in the living room and also records his cartoons onto the DVR space. Because of this, I've become acquainted with some of the modern cartoons of today, and in all honesty, they really don't compare to the cartoons of the 90's and early 2000's. I grew up watching shows like Samurai Jack, Kids Next Door, Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and even older shows like Tom and Jerry, Yosemite Sam, Bugs Bunny, etc. 

Looking at some of the shows of today, I've realized that they heavily rely on vulgar humor to elicit laughs. You have characters nowadays that are 1-dimensional, lack character development, and largely depend on crude humor to get laughs. I'm certainly not saying that all of today's cartoons are awful (Avatar the Legend of Korra is actually pretty decent) because not every cartoon in the 90's and early 2000's was a masterpiece, but it seems like the cartoons of today have focused more on quantity than quality. This is how you end up with garbage shows like Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners (I watched it once.....it almost gave me cancer), Uncle Grandpa (another awful one), and arguably the worst one on this list....Fanboy and Chum Chum. Almost all of these shows rely on some form of crass nonsense to "appeal" to the viewers (I know for a fact that Sanjay and Craig, and Breadwinners count on butt jokes and breaking wind for humor, not to mention that Uncle Grandpa might as well be an acid trip with the amount of chaos and noise that occurs with each episode...shows like this are too chaotic and surreal to make sense of what is happening). 


On the flip-side however, I will admit that many of the cartoons of today have come a long way as far as animation is concerned. Overall though, the trade-off in quality and plot/interesting characters for better animation just isn't worth it. Even though cartoons are constantly written according to the tastes and interests of each generation, I still don't understand what caused cartoons to change to drastically in such a short time span. Take Danny Phantom for instance, the main character, Danny is a 14 year high school student that became a ghost as a result of entering his parent's ghost portal which he accidentally turns on. As a half ghost he becomes aware of his powers and uses them to protect his town from evil ghosts (all while keeping his ghost powers a secret). Cool right? Now let's compare it to Uncle Grandpa which is more or less about and old man (The Uncle and Grandpa of every person in the world), a talking dinosaur, piece of pizza, and a giant tiger that drive around in an RV and babysit/help children with their problems. Perhaps it's because I've grown up, and I no longer have the mindset of a child, but I doubt that I would've considered a show like Uncle Grandpa to be funny. Even if you don't like Danny Phantom, or if you think this is a bad comparison, I can guarantee that if you read the summaries of some of the shows of today, you would more than likely cringe a lot more than you would at the summaries of some of the older cartoons. This is just my outlook on the cartoons of today, you don't have to agree with my opinion, but I hope you can understand where I am coming from with this. 
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I don't know that I'd say I'd miss anything from tv in the past. I wasn't a big tv watching person. I was more of an outside dog and I'd rather go play until my mom yelled at me to come inside.

Saying that, I thought television of the past seemed to have diverse story-telling and, even with the sit-com set-up, seemed to be more engaging and have more effort put into writing.

I look at television today and it's either mini-series style shows, like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones (which are excellent, don't get me wrong), or it's a reality TV program which bores the universe out of me. I'd rather go do things than watch other people go do things.

Lastly, there are sitcoms still around but they seem awfully aggressive and sexual in nature as Supernerd pointed out earlier. Two Broke Girls is nonstop sex jokes. After a while, it gets old. I'm not even offended. I'm just bored with it.

I simply click off the TV and keep things moving.
I don't know that I'd say I'd miss anything from tv in the past. I wasn't a big tv watching person. I was more of an outside dog and I'd rather go play until my mom yelled at me to come inside.

Saying that, I thought television of the past seemed to have diverse story-telling and, even with the sit-com set-up, seemed to be more engaging and have more effort put into writing.

I look at television today and it's either mini-series style shows, like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones (which are excellent, don't get me wrong), or it's a reality TV program which bores the universe out of me. I'd rather go do things than watch other people go do things.

Lastly, there are sitcoms still around but they seem awfully aggressive and sexual in nature as Supernerd pointed out earlier. Two Broke Girls is nonstop sex jokes. After a while, it gets old. I'm not even offended. I'm just bored with it.

I simply click off the TV and keep things moving.
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