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Thou shall not kill. A common phrase, perhaps. The law insists it is a sin to take life, and most under pressure would say "I would never kill!". However, when backed into a corner, one might do anything to survive, including kill. Be it a rampant serial killer, mad biker, juvenile deliquent.... the will to kill might manifest from desire. A desire to live. I couldn't possibly kill, seeing as it goes against my established morality. Doing so would make me suicidal. I'd like to know what you would do.

Would you kill to save yourself or others, or would you find another solution? How much would it take to get you to kill? Thanks for listening, users of Vizzed.
Thou shall not kill. A common phrase, perhaps. The law insists it is a sin to take life, and most under pressure would say "I would never kill!". However, when backed into a corner, one might do anything to survive, including kill. Be it a rampant serial killer, mad biker, juvenile deliquent.... the will to kill might manifest from desire. A desire to live. I couldn't possibly kill, seeing as it goes against my established morality. Doing so would make me suicidal. I'd like to know what you would do.

Would you kill to save yourself or others, or would you find another solution? How much would it take to get you to kill? Thanks for listening, users of Vizzed.
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Would my psychology allow me to kill? Yes. But I would watch the world die rather than compromise my moral character. I will not murder, not for any reason.
Would my psychology allow me to kill? Yes. But I would watch the world die rather than compromise my moral character. I will not murder, not for any reason.
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There was a part of me that thought I could until I had a dream a few nights ago where I actually killed someone and not out of self-defense. That made me realize that I likely couldn't actually do it.

However, I would say that if I was defending my family that I would have a better chance of being able to do it. I think they would be a good motivation to kill someone.

I see no situation where I could kill someone for any other reason.
There was a part of me that thought I could until I had a dream a few nights ago where I actually killed someone and not out of self-defense. That made me realize that I likely couldn't actually do it.

However, I would say that if I was defending my family that I would have a better chance of being able to do it. I think they would be a good motivation to kill someone.

I see no situation where I could kill someone for any other reason.
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Notice: I'll be getting into a lot of religious stuff here. If you don't want to read, you don't have to, but if you'd like, I'll be sharing what I believe.

Killing isn't meant to be fun. Necessary sometimes, yes; but not fun. In Sherlock Season 3, episode 3,
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Sherlock fails to prove the guilt of a man that holds entire nations under his palm via blackmail. He subsequently kills him.
Was his choice right? I can't say. But as it says in my church's religious text, The Book of Mormon, "It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief" - 1 Nephi 4:13. Killing is not a sin when it is necessary. Sometimes God asks us to do things we may not enjoy in the short term in order to preserve our long-term happiness. That sometimes means killing people that do terrible things.

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." -Matthew 18:6

We all can change and repent. We all can grow. But those who refuse to are literally better off dead because they are using this life to make themselves unhappy. Matthew 18:6 explains that.

As for me, though; I don't think I could kill someone without some sort of divine assistance. I've tried to before, but because my heart was aiming for the right place but my reasons/choices were misguided, I could not bring myself to do it. God always did something to stop me, and for that I am grateful. Because of that, I have never killed another person.

Would killing the people I thought of killing bring about positive consequences? Perhaps some. But the bad always outweighed the good. Killing others without the command/permission to do so from God Himself is not OK.

This life is tough. There are a lot of things that could upset us. There are many choices that are difficult. But for that, it always comes back to prayer. If we pray earnestly for answers and help, the choices we make won't be as difficult or difficult at all.
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Killing isn't meant to be fun. Necessary sometimes, yes; but not fun. In Sherlock Season 3, episode 3,
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Sherlock fails to prove the guilt of a man that holds entire nations under his palm via blackmail. He subsequently kills him.
Was his choice right? I can't say. But as it says in my church's religious text, The Book of Mormon, "It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief" - 1 Nephi 4:13. Killing is not a sin when it is necessary. Sometimes God asks us to do things we may not enjoy in the short term in order to preserve our long-term happiness. That sometimes means killing people that do terrible things.

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." -Matthew 18:6

We all can change and repent. We all can grow. But those who refuse to are literally better off dead because they are using this life to make themselves unhappy. Matthew 18:6 explains that.

As for me, though; I don't think I could kill someone without some sort of divine assistance. I've tried to before, but because my heart was aiming for the right place but my reasons/choices were misguided, I could not bring myself to do it. God always did something to stop me, and for that I am grateful. Because of that, I have never killed another person.

Would killing the people I thought of killing bring about positive consequences? Perhaps some. But the bad always outweighed the good. Killing others without the command/permission to do so from God Himself is not OK.

This life is tough. There are a lot of things that could upset us. There are many choices that are difficult. But for that, it always comes back to prayer. If we pray earnestly for answers and help, the choices we make won't be as difficult or difficult at all.
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If its someone I care about whos being hurt, then I would probably do it, but id only do it enough to get the job done, like lets say I'm with a friend and they get attacked, I'd fight but id stop at the point where we are safe again, for killing someone, It would need to be a very dangerous situation and the tools for it would need to be already present, or else I probably wouldn't do it or even think of doing it at all.
If its someone I care about whos being hurt, then I would probably do it, but id only do it enough to get the job done, like lets say I'm with a friend and they get attacked, I'd fight but id stop at the point where we are safe again, for killing someone, It would need to be a very dangerous situation and the tools for it would need to be already present, or else I probably wouldn't do it or even think of doing it at all.
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According to my morals, religion, and the law, I would never willingly murder anyone, for whatever the reason, no matter how much they wronged me. However, bring me to the point where I need to defend myself? I'd be way more likely to, but I wouldn't go for a kill. I can hold myself in a fight well, so I'd subdue someone before it gets to that point. But if my family is at gunpoint and they're about to pull that trigger? That's where morals go out the window. However, unless it gets to that, I wouldn't even think of such a thing.
According to my morals, religion, and the law, I would never willingly murder anyone, for whatever the reason, no matter how much they wronged me. However, bring me to the point where I need to defend myself? I'd be way more likely to, but I wouldn't go for a kill. I can hold myself in a fight well, so I'd subdue someone before it gets to that point. But if my family is at gunpoint and they're about to pull that trigger? That's where morals go out the window. However, unless it gets to that, I wouldn't even think of such a thing.
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Only if absolutely necessary. Killing another person is something that can never be fixed. Once they're dead, they're dead. If I was in dire need of protection of myself or other people, yes, I would kill the person making this danger arise. I'd rather save innocent people than sit back and watch everyone die, including the possibility of myself being killed.
Only if absolutely necessary. Killing another person is something that can never be fixed. Once they're dead, they're dead. If I was in dire need of protection of myself or other people, yes, I would kill the person making this danger arise. I'd rather save innocent people than sit back and watch everyone die, including the possibility of myself being killed.
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I can sort of relate to what geeo said on his post about that...I mean I don't like to kill but if its for any reason I would do it out of self defence. There has been times and I quote I have had dreams I had to defend myself or my family in a way and I ended up killing the bad guy to protect them...to do it in real life? I don't know but if it ever occurs I know what the right thing to do when it happens.
I can sort of relate to what geeo said on his post about that...I mean I don't like to kill but if its for any reason I would do it out of self defence. There has been times and I quote I have had dreams I had to defend myself or my family in a way and I ended up killing the bad guy to protect them...to do it in real life? I don't know but if it ever occurs I know what the right thing to do when it happens.
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What your essentially describing is the fight or flight question honestly. 

Also i hate to break it to you, but if your under severe danger or your loved ones are.. You wouldn't have the time to simply consider your moral standing on the situation... Well before you died at least...

The only people that have the will to kill would be people that kill for fun, or for infamy...  and perhaps a small minority in armies that see it as a legal way to deal with these urges perhaps. 

But to actually answer your question... I would under the right circumstances resort to killing someone if it was to protect someone who could not protect themselves...  I wouldn't consider it heroic or anything... Just i don't like to see other people in misery.... That is for me alone. 

What your essentially describing is the fight or flight question honestly. 

Also i hate to break it to you, but if your under severe danger or your loved ones are.. You wouldn't have the time to simply consider your moral standing on the situation... Well before you died at least...

The only people that have the will to kill would be people that kill for fun, or for infamy...  and perhaps a small minority in armies that see it as a legal way to deal with these urges perhaps. 

But to actually answer your question... I would under the right circumstances resort to killing someone if it was to protect someone who could not protect themselves...  I wouldn't consider it heroic or anything... Just i don't like to see other people in misery.... That is for me alone. 

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Yeah, sure I could. Self preservation, broski. Freedom isn't free.

Regressing to a state of mind where only logic and facts matter, all morals and emotions aside I could totally kill someone yeah.
Yeah, sure I could. Self preservation, broski. Freedom isn't free.

Regressing to a state of mind where only logic and facts matter, all morals and emotions aside I could totally kill someone yeah.
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If left with in a situation no other option, to me that is in a situation where it would either result in me dying or someone close to me dying from that person. Though I'd always try to incapacitate someone before resorting to that. Outside of that, would I ever want to murder someone? No, I don't get any enjoyment out of it nor am I a person that typically holds grudges. It's not  really a fate I wish on anyone, even on the people I dislike most.
If left with in a situation no other option, to me that is in a situation where it would either result in me dying or someone close to me dying from that person. Though I'd always try to incapacitate someone before resorting to that. Outside of that, would I ever want to murder someone? No, I don't get any enjoyment out of it nor am I a person that typically holds grudges. It's not  really a fate I wish on anyone, even on the people I dislike most.
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To me it would depend on the person, if he was just a guy I didn't like then I wouldn't because he really doesn't deserve it. Though if the person was basically evil and killed millions of innocent people, I would have no problem killing him since he deserved it.
To me it would depend on the person, if he was just a guy I didn't like then I wouldn't because he really doesn't deserve it. Though if the person was basically evil and killed millions of innocent people, I would have no problem killing him since he deserved it.
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Myself? Sure. No problem.

Other people? Nah son.
Myself? Sure. No problem.

Other people? Nah son.
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If my life or the life of someone I care about was in danger you bet your ass I'd kill. I'm not a violent person, but if you are going to threaten the life of me or a loved one (or anyone really, even if it's a stranger) I would not hesitate to kill you first.
If my life or the life of someone I care about was in danger you bet your ass I'd kill. I'm not a violent person, but if you are going to threaten the life of me or a loved one (or anyone really, even if it's a stranger) I would not hesitate to kill you first.
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Would I kill? If my loved ones are in danger,I will kill. I will kill with any means at my disposal. You break into my house,you will get a bullet in center mass. I look at it this way,if someone had made up their mind they were going to rob me or bring harm to me or my loved ones,they have already signed their death warrant. I would not have an issue with that,because that means my loved ones are safe and I would be okay with ending someone's life that attempted to bring me harm. The police and come by and pick up the corpse.
Would I kill? If my loved ones are in danger,I will kill. I will kill with any means at my disposal. You break into my house,you will get a bullet in center mass. I look at it this way,if someone had made up their mind they were going to rob me or bring harm to me or my loved ones,they have already signed their death warrant. I would not have an issue with that,because that means my loved ones are safe and I would be okay with ending someone's life that attempted to bring me harm. The police and come by and pick up the corpse.
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No I wouldn't kill I would just call the police.
No I wouldn't kill I would just call the police.
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Oldschool777 :

So if someone's only intention was to rob you, then you would kill them without hesitation? Even if they weren't going to hurt anyone, you would still kill them?
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So if someone's only intention was to rob you, then you would kill them without hesitation? Even if they weren't going to hurt anyone, you would still kill them?
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Yes. I would. They broke into my home,that was their first crime. Their second crime was to attempt to rob me. Their third crime was thinking I was not going to do anything about it.

A man's home is his castle,his sanctuary.

What people fail to realize is that the police do not prevent crimes,they just gather information.
Yes. I would. They broke into my home,that was their first crime. Their second crime was to attempt to rob me. Their third crime was thinking I was not going to do anything about it.

A man's home is his castle,his sanctuary.

What people fail to realize is that the police do not prevent crimes,they just gather information.
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But he wasn't going to hurt you or your family. If I've learned anything from Criminal Justice class, that's technically murder. Sure, he was committing a crime, but I think taking someone's life because they broke into your home is too much. Especially if they were not going to hurt you. That's basically like giving the death sentence to the criminal who broke into your house. That's WAY too big of a punishment, in my opinion.
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But he wasn't going to hurt you or your family. If I've learned anything from Criminal Justice class, that's technically murder. Sure, he was committing a crime, but I think taking someone's life because they broke into your home is too much. Especially if they were not going to hurt you. That's basically like giving the death sentence to the criminal who broke into your house. That's WAY too big of a punishment, in my opinion.
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Yes. Not only in self-defense, but for the right price, I'll kill anyone you want (that I can get to). We all have to die sooner or later.

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Yes. Not only in self-defense, but for the right price, I'll kill anyone you want (that I can get to). We all have to die sooner or later.

I really wasn't sure if I should be honest with this...
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