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06-05-16 08:13 PM
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Hey guys, it's RDay again. I had an interesting thought that a lot of people probably have thought about at some point in their life. What if Adolf Hitler, one of the world's most infamous dictators, had never been born, or had actually been accepted into art? I had to actually write a report for Social Studies two years ago and had some fun with it. Well, this is how it might have played out.

If Hitler didn't exist, the second World War probably wouldn't have happened, at least, not at that time. 6 million Jews wouldn't have been killed, and several million others. The effects of this would have stretched beyond just Europe. India wouldn't have gained independence in 1947, as a large part of India's independence was that Great Britain was pretty much exhausted from the two World Wars and didn't think it was a good idea to fight to keep more colonies. Countries of Africa wouldn't have gained independence from their respective European controllers for the same reasons. Japanese people living in American wouldn't have been forced into internment camps, as Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened, because, again, World War II wouldn't have happened. Communism in Southeast Asia wouldn't have been prevalent as they would still likely have been controlled by European powers for a longer time. 

Overall, if Hitler hadn't been "elected" fuhrer of Germany, many things probably would have happened, most of them indirect responses. 
What do you think would have happened in a hypothetical No-Hitler world? 

Hey guys, it's RDay again. I had an interesting thought that a lot of people probably have thought about at some point in their life. What if Adolf Hitler, one of the world's most infamous dictators, had never been born, or had actually been accepted into art? I had to actually write a report for Social Studies two years ago and had some fun with it. Well, this is how it might have played out.

If Hitler didn't exist, the second World War probably wouldn't have happened, at least, not at that time. 6 million Jews wouldn't have been killed, and several million others. The effects of this would have stretched beyond just Europe. India wouldn't have gained independence in 1947, as a large part of India's independence was that Great Britain was pretty much exhausted from the two World Wars and didn't think it was a good idea to fight to keep more colonies. Countries of Africa wouldn't have gained independence from their respective European controllers for the same reasons. Japanese people living in American wouldn't have been forced into internment camps, as Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened, because, again, World War II wouldn't have happened. Communism in Southeast Asia wouldn't have been prevalent as they would still likely have been controlled by European powers for a longer time. 

Overall, if Hitler hadn't been "elected" fuhrer of Germany, many things probably would have happened, most of them indirect responses. 
What do you think would have happened in a hypothetical No-Hitler world? 



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RDay13 : I actually disagree with you regarding Pearl Harbor. I actually think that there was a good chance that still would have happened. The Japanese were expanding aggressively throughout the Pacific and while the US was "neutral" it was definitely interfering with what Japan was doing in subtle ways. Without alliances with Hitler it is hard to say whether or not Japan would have been as aggressive.

Still, it is a wonder what would have happened regarding Japan if there wasn't a European war. Would any of the countries in Europe have cared about what Japan was doing at that point? Probably but it likely wouldn't have pushed the entire world into war like Hitler's actions had.
RDay13 : I actually disagree with you regarding Pearl Harbor. I actually think that there was a good chance that still would have happened. The Japanese were expanding aggressively throughout the Pacific and while the US was "neutral" it was definitely interfering with what Japan was doing in subtle ways. Without alliances with Hitler it is hard to say whether or not Japan would have been as aggressive.

Still, it is a wonder what would have happened regarding Japan if there wasn't a European war. Would any of the countries in Europe have cared about what Japan was doing at that point? Probably but it likely wouldn't have pushed the entire world into war like Hitler's actions had.

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geeogree : Pearl Harbor would've still happened the same day of the same year. Japan bombed us both because they wanted control of all of the pacific islands and that we were supplying the Chinese against them. The alliance with Hitler, I think, was an after thought because we were an enemy in common. As far as aggressiveness goes, the Japanese were a very proud people that, at the time, could still relate to the old warrior ways of the samurai, to an extent.

RDay13 : The spread of communism in asia, I would guess, started with Mao himself. prior to the beginning of WWII, not only was Japan at war with China, but Mao was causing trouble on the inside, as well. Between foreign invaders and internal uprising, China was pushed to its limits and eventually overthrown. As a result of the Chi-Coms, The DPRK is around now. If it hadn't been for the support of Chinese military in the Korean conflict, Kim Ill Sung might never have been able to take power. At that point, it was only a matter of time until Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, etc. were taken over, as well. So, really, Nazi Germany had very little to do with the spread of communism. If anything, Japan invading China did, because they would've otherwise had the resources to take Mao down before he ever got a good start.
geeogree : Pearl Harbor would've still happened the same day of the same year. Japan bombed us both because they wanted control of all of the pacific islands and that we were supplying the Chinese against them. The alliance with Hitler, I think, was an after thought because we were an enemy in common. As far as aggressiveness goes, the Japanese were a very proud people that, at the time, could still relate to the old warrior ways of the samurai, to an extent.

RDay13 : The spread of communism in asia, I would guess, started with Mao himself. prior to the beginning of WWII, not only was Japan at war with China, but Mao was causing trouble on the inside, as well. Between foreign invaders and internal uprising, China was pushed to its limits and eventually overthrown. As a result of the Chi-Coms, The DPRK is around now. If it hadn't been for the support of Chinese military in the Korean conflict, Kim Ill Sung might never have been able to take power. At that point, it was only a matter of time until Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, etc. were taken over, as well. So, really, Nazi Germany had very little to do with the spread of communism. If anything, Japan invading China did, because they would've otherwise had the resources to take Mao down before he ever got a good start.

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Who can say? Yes,the Germans wanted payback for WW1. At the time,they were desperate for ANYONE that could resurrect their country. Things got so bad that they needed a wheelbarrow full of marks (their currency) just to buy a loaf of bread. Would WW2 have happened? I would say yes,but maybe with different countries. Japan was on the warpath in the 1930's,taking over island after island and I believe they did capture part of China. Germany may not have risen up without Hitler at the helm. For all we know,we may have had to fight the British in this scenario.
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Who can say? Yes,the Germans wanted payback for WW1. At the time,they were desperate for ANYONE that could resurrect their country. Things got so bad that they needed a wheelbarrow full of marks (their currency) just to buy a loaf of bread. Would WW2 have happened? I would say yes,but maybe with different countries. Japan was on the warpath in the 1930's,taking over island after island and I believe they did capture part of China. Germany may not have risen up without Hitler at the helm. For all we know,we may have had to fight the British in this scenario.

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Oldschool777 : It's unlikely. Churchill had a good relationship with the US. A lot of people actually don't know that he was half American.
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Well, i heard questions like "What if Hitler won WW2?" and "What if Hitler didn't kill the Jews?", so i might think of this one too.

I'd say the WW2 was, as far as i know, started by Hitler, and if he didn't existed, the war wouldn't have happened. Okay, maybe the people above me are right about WW1. But if that was true, why didn't Germany attack the others between the world wars? (With that, i mean between 1918 and 1939.)

P.S: I have a lot of knowledge over WW2, and a microscaled knowledge of WW1. Sorry if i said something wrong.
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Well, i heard questions like "What if Hitler won WW2?" and "What if Hitler didn't kill the Jews?", so i might think of this one too.

I'd say the WW2 was, as far as i know, started by Hitler, and if he didn't existed, the war wouldn't have happened. Okay, maybe the people above me are right about WW1. But if that was true, why didn't Germany attack the others between the world wars? (With that, i mean between 1918 and 1939.)

P.S: I have a lot of knowledge over WW2, and a microscaled knowledge of WW1. Sorry if i said something wrong.

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United States would probably still be under the effects of the great depression, and would have sunk even further. Imperial Japan would have still existed, they would still be battling China, Korea would still be occupied, and Japan never would be, so their economy and culture would never change in the slightest. Most countries would never gain independence; the world would be quite different. 
United States would probably still be under the effects of the great depression, and would have sunk even further. Imperial Japan would have still existed, they would still be battling China, Korea would still be occupied, and Japan never would be, so their economy and culture would never change in the slightest. Most countries would never gain independence; the world would be quite different. 

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If it weren't Hitler it would have been someone else. Germany was in a position where they were being punished by war reparations after World War I and the environment was ripe for any strong leader to come and push their views on the population.

I think the Japanese would have still gone ahead and expanded their Co-Prosperity sphere but they may not have been as aggressive taking on the United States. I'd expect the Emperor to use more political tact to cede territory much in the way the Germans had European nations roll over before World War II was underway.

But no Hitler? It would have been another member of that group, another military leader or political leader.
If it weren't Hitler it would have been someone else. Germany was in a position where they were being punished by war reparations after World War I and the environment was ripe for any strong leader to come and push their views on the population.

I think the Japanese would have still gone ahead and expanded their Co-Prosperity sphere but they may not have been as aggressive taking on the United States. I'd expect the Emperor to use more political tact to cede territory much in the way the Germans had European nations roll over before World War II was underway.

But no Hitler? It would have been another member of that group, another military leader or political leader.

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The rules of cause and effect prevent anyone from making an accurate judgement. The "Butterfly Effect" or "Chaos Theory" states that if we change even the slightest thing, the world can be vastly different. Such as stepping on a butterfly, hence The Butterfly Effect.

Now, because of how significant Hitler was, a lot of things would have changed. And for all we know, we could have easily lost the war and none of the people on Vizzed right now would exist.
The rules of cause and effect prevent anyone from making an accurate judgement. The "Butterfly Effect" or "Chaos Theory" states that if we change even the slightest thing, the world can be vastly different. Such as stepping on a butterfly, hence The Butterfly Effect.

Now, because of how significant Hitler was, a lot of things would have changed. And for all we know, we could have easily lost the war and none of the people on Vizzed right now would exist.

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If Hitler didn't exist, we wouldn't have been graced with his wonderful paintings. And who could forget Hitler's amazing book, Mein Kampf?
If Hitler didn't exist, we wouldn't have been graced with his wonderful paintings. And who could forget Hitler's amazing book, Mein Kampf?

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I'm somewhat going to echo what Ghostbear said. The hurt pride of the German people and the conditions due to the Treaty of Versailles made it so a charismatic and strong willed leader could take power, in this case Hitler. If it weren't for him it would've likely been someone else. The ideology of nazism wasn't something that Hitler himself completely made up but was something that had been building from Nordic mysticism since before Hitler took power. The jews were also a prime target because of how they made up a small part of the German population but held a lot of money. I don't think it's a complete stretch that it could've ended up very similarly.

There is of course a chance some other radical party could've taken power such as the communists which overall could've made communism spread much more in Europe. However it was also something that a lot of people were very adamantly against and feared so it would've liked led to war. Either way it would've likely lead to some sort of radical progression, one that we can't 100% predict due to many hidden factors.

I'm somewhat going to echo what Ghostbear said. The hurt pride of the German people and the conditions due to the Treaty of Versailles made it so a charismatic and strong willed leader could take power, in this case Hitler. If it weren't for him it would've likely been someone else. The ideology of nazism wasn't something that Hitler himself completely made up but was something that had been building from Nordic mysticism since before Hitler took power. The jews were also a prime target because of how they made up a small part of the German population but held a lot of money. I don't think it's a complete stretch that it could've ended up very similarly.

There is of course a chance some other radical party could've taken power such as the communists which overall could've made communism spread much more in Europe. However it was also something that a lot of people were very adamantly against and feared so it would've liked led to war. Either way it would've likely lead to some sort of radical progression, one that we can't 100% predict due to many hidden factors.

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For all the bad things he did, he did something good. He gave us highways. He also gave us the car brand who is one of the most selling today Volkswagen. Yeah he killed millions of Jews, but one man who was worse was Stalin. He killed like 50millions whom was his own people. So in my eyes Hitler did more for the future generation then any other historical leader. But he was crazy of course. Not doubting that. But we can't judge him since he kiiled so many, when so many people drive the car brand he invented
For all the bad things he did, he did something good. He gave us highways. He also gave us the car brand who is one of the most selling today Volkswagen. Yeah he killed millions of Jews, but one man who was worse was Stalin. He killed like 50millions whom was his own people. So in my eyes Hitler did more for the future generation then any other historical leader. But he was crazy of course. Not doubting that. But we can't judge him since he kiiled so many, when so many people drive the car brand he invented

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If Hitler hadn't existed they likely would gave found another guy exceptional at Rhetoric to replace him, the Nazis were in.
Secondarily Germany would have won WWII, after crushing Britain they would have actually invaded it's mainland making it impossible for America to help, it was a bad idea starting a war on two fronts, Stalin wasn't ready but he actually got lucky.
If Hitler hadn't existed they likely would gave found another guy exceptional at Rhetoric to replace him, the Nazis were in.
Secondarily Germany would have won WWII, after crushing Britain they would have actually invaded it's mainland making it impossible for America to help, it was a bad idea starting a war on two fronts, Stalin wasn't ready but he actually got lucky.

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World War II wouldn't of happened but that would've meant the US would have remained in the great depression a but longer since between WWII and stuff like minimum wage, that's what lifted it so in someways Hitler unintentionally helped us.
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World War II wouldn't of happened but that would've meant the US would have remained in the great depression a but longer since between WWII and stuff like minimum wage, that's what lifted it so in someways Hitler unintentionally helped us.

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