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Ok I am going to try posting this again and see what happens ( this is my 3rd try at this one thread ). I have heard this conversation come up many times between friends and family. Each time it happens things get interesting real fast and loud. * insert maniac laughter here *
Some of the things I have heard is : All men are incapable of fidelity. All women are irrational. Men and women think differently, act differently, and react differently. Some men are incapable of keeping promises, acting with integrity, and showing respect. Some women react with lack of ration, allow themselves to be carried away by emotion and allow their judgment to be impaired. That could be said of either gender. Well to get to the matter of my thread ( Tongue lashing exercises warm up !! ) and set the arena for this debate ( Queue up the chest thumping and barbed remarks )  : Which gender is better at handling life in general ... MEN OR WOMEN ?
Ok I am going to try posting this again and see what happens ( this is my 3rd try at this one thread ). I have heard this conversation come up many times between friends and family. Each time it happens things get interesting real fast and loud. * insert maniac laughter here *
Some of the things I have heard is : All men are incapable of fidelity. All women are irrational. Men and women think differently, act differently, and react differently. Some men are incapable of keeping promises, acting with integrity, and showing respect. Some women react with lack of ration, allow themselves to be carried away by emotion and allow their judgment to be impaired. That could be said of either gender. Well to get to the matter of my thread ( Tongue lashing exercises warm up !! ) and set the arena for this debate ( Queue up the chest thumping and barbed remarks )  : Which gender is better at handling life in general ... MEN OR WOMEN ?
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Better at handling life? I saw women. They handle those children so much better than men. Men hear a kid crying, and they are just like, " NOPE! Here you go, honey. " 
Better at handling life? I saw women. They handle those children so much better than men. Men hear a kid crying, and they are just like, " NOPE! Here you go, honey. " 
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This really can't be answered. Both genders have people who suck and are great at handling life in general. You can't pinpoint it on one gender. All the other stuff, "All men are incapable of fidelity, all women are irrational" and etc... are stereotypes. Men are capable of fidelity, and not all women are irrational. Only people think they are, because of stereotypes.

So, there is literally no answer. Unless we pinpoint to one person in specific (And, we aren't, we're using the entire gender), you can't say "Men are better at handling life" or "Women are better at handling life".
This really can't be answered. Both genders have people who suck and are great at handling life in general. You can't pinpoint it on one gender. All the other stuff, "All men are incapable of fidelity, all women are irrational" and etc... are stereotypes. Men are capable of fidelity, and not all women are irrational. Only people think they are, because of stereotypes.

So, there is literally no answer. Unless we pinpoint to one person in specific (And, we aren't, we're using the entire gender), you can't say "Men are better at handling life" or "Women are better at handling life".
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Overall, men and women are equal. Men may be better in some areas, but women are better in others. God made us like this so that each gender is more fit to fill a certain role in life. But overall, we are equal.
Overall, men and women are equal. Men may be better in some areas, but women are better in others. God made us like this so that each gender is more fit to fill a certain role in life. But overall, we are equal.
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tgags123 :

Pretty much exactly what I would say!

I don't know why people say stuff like. "uuuuugggh, I hate being a guy!" Or, "I hate being a girl!"

Ultimately, they're just built differently, and were designed for different purposes. I know people say that women are more emotional. And most of the time this is true, but you know what? This makes them more nurturing to children (and others) I see it a lot on Vizzed actually. Female users comforting guys. It's a fine thing, something that makes me happy is when one girl who is a friend of mine helps with that. Same for my mom and my grandma. ^^'

We all gravitate toward extremes, it's just knowing when to use your head that's important.
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Pretty much exactly what I would say!

I don't know why people say stuff like. "uuuuugggh, I hate being a guy!" Or, "I hate being a girl!"

Ultimately, they're just built differently, and were designed for different purposes. I know people say that women are more emotional. And most of the time this is true, but you know what? This makes them more nurturing to children (and others) I see it a lot on Vizzed actually. Female users comforting guys. It's a fine thing, something that makes me happy is when one girl who is a friend of mine helps with that. Same for my mom and my grandma. ^^'

We all gravitate toward extremes, it's just knowing when to use your head that's important.
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maguc : There is no right or wrong answer to this post. The fun of the post comes in the debate for or against one gender or the other. As I have stated in my start on here I have heard lots of arguments for each gender. In my world there are no men and women. There are humans, no sexism, just people. All humans should be regarded as equal. Beyond differences of physical capabilities or reproductive assignment.

To say that men should act a certain way and women should be doing certain things just isn't valid anymore. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a genderless house meaning simply this, we all worked together. It didn't matter who did the dishes, my sister and I both did them. Some nights Mom cooked dinner and some nights Dad cooked dinner or Mom cut the lawn and Dad did gardening. Whatever needed done, it got done and it didn't matter who did it. There were no defined roles of who should be doing what. To my parents, I thank you for that. I have transferred that way of living into my daily life were my partner and I share responsibilities equally and we accomplish them together. I have seen a lot of sexism, outside, at school, through jobs, on the internet and it's just not acceptable or even correct! For every one thing a man is criticized for or worries about there is one for women too.

The largest and mainly only thing that affects this debate is society in general. We have grown through time and things are getting better slowly ... I mean it's been what 60-70 years or more it took for women to get some semblance of equality. Heck in some parts of the world I don't see that ever happening. You could argue this till you're blue in the face and it still will not change the fact that no matter how you look at it both genders are equal. Without one the other falls. So the correct answer would be neither but it will still be fun to see if any come on here with different opinions and try to argue it.

maguc : There is no right or wrong answer to this post. The fun of the post comes in the debate for or against one gender or the other. As I have stated in my start on here I have heard lots of arguments for each gender. In my world there are no men and women. There are humans, no sexism, just people. All humans should be regarded as equal. Beyond differences of physical capabilities or reproductive assignment.

To say that men should act a certain way and women should be doing certain things just isn't valid anymore. I was fortunate enough to grow up in a genderless house meaning simply this, we all worked together. It didn't matter who did the dishes, my sister and I both did them. Some nights Mom cooked dinner and some nights Dad cooked dinner or Mom cut the lawn and Dad did gardening. Whatever needed done, it got done and it didn't matter who did it. There were no defined roles of who should be doing what. To my parents, I thank you for that. I have transferred that way of living into my daily life were my partner and I share responsibilities equally and we accomplish them together. I have seen a lot of sexism, outside, at school, through jobs, on the internet and it's just not acceptable or even correct! For every one thing a man is criticized for or worries about there is one for women too.

The largest and mainly only thing that affects this debate is society in general. We have grown through time and things are getting better slowly ... I mean it's been what 60-70 years or more it took for women to get some semblance of equality. Heck in some parts of the world I don't see that ever happening. You could argue this till you're blue in the face and it still will not change the fact that no matter how you look at it both genders are equal. Without one the other falls. So the correct answer would be neither but it will still be fun to see if any come on here with different opinions and try to argue it.

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Hmmm...
I'm a guy, FYI, I just happen to like Absol...
Anyways, back to the topic at hand.
I'd say...
This ones really tough...
But I'd have to go with men. When I see the difference between my mom and my dad, its insane.
My mom is constantly stressed (despite her very much removed approach to parenting, basically her letting my brother play video games and my sister watch Frozen while she cooks.) She complains to my step dad when he gets home, she doesn't ask him how his day was, and she is extremely defensive about...well everything. She thinks everything could be an insult, and she overreacts to stuff, like saying "dumb."
Now I love my mom, but this is what I see.

As for my Dad, he's very calm, confident, and handles everything with seeming ease. He tells me what I need to do instead of yelling or scolding, and is a very simple and straightforward, hard-working man, and it seems to work a lot better, and he is much calmer.

Of course, I'm not basing my entire argument on that.
Girls at school are much more, as you said, emotional, and tend to be in the extremes usually, whereas the men are either brawling and having fun or being quiet.
If we're going to go into parenting, well, I moved up with my Dad for a reason. And I don't see the "Nope, here's the baby" thing either. (I'm excluding my first six months, whereas my father apparently had no idea how to change my diapers and my mom had left me in his care, so he had to take me to my Aunt's. She looks a lot like my mom, so I couldn't personally tell the difference at the time.)

So, as posted up above, Men.
Hmmm...
I'm a guy, FYI, I just happen to like Absol...
Anyways, back to the topic at hand.
I'd say...
This ones really tough...
But I'd have to go with men. When I see the difference between my mom and my dad, its insane.
My mom is constantly stressed (despite her very much removed approach to parenting, basically her letting my brother play video games and my sister watch Frozen while she cooks.) She complains to my step dad when he gets home, she doesn't ask him how his day was, and she is extremely defensive about...well everything. She thinks everything could be an insult, and she overreacts to stuff, like saying "dumb."
Now I love my mom, but this is what I see.

As for my Dad, he's very calm, confident, and handles everything with seeming ease. He tells me what I need to do instead of yelling or scolding, and is a very simple and straightforward, hard-working man, and it seems to work a lot better, and he is much calmer.

Of course, I'm not basing my entire argument on that.
Girls at school are much more, as you said, emotional, and tend to be in the extremes usually, whereas the men are either brawling and having fun or being quiet.
If we're going to go into parenting, well, I moved up with my Dad for a reason. And I don't see the "Nope, here's the baby" thing either. (I'm excluding my first six months, whereas my father apparently had no idea how to change my diapers and my mom had left me in his care, so he had to take me to my Aunt's. She looks a lot like my mom, so I couldn't personally tell the difference at the time.)

So, as posted up above, Men.
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Of course, I agree with Barathemos and tgags.  I think we're all just as capable as cheating, breaking promises, or being irrational.  It wouldn't really be fair (in my opinion) to say one sex is more guilty than the other.  However, men and women definitely have their own strengths and weaknesses.  As society progresses though, it's getting harder to find those lines.
Of course, I agree with Barathemos and tgags.  I think we're all just as capable as cheating, breaking promises, or being irrational.  It wouldn't really be fair (in my opinion) to say one sex is more guilty than the other.  However, men and women definitely have their own strengths and weaknesses.  As society progresses though, it's getting harder to find those lines.
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It really depends on that their field of work is. Men might have more superiority that Females and Females has more superiority than Males. So all and all, it's really even out. So, really. Humans are humans, no matter on their gender.

Sure, I know in history that Males wants to be more superior than Females, like working, voting and a bunch of other things and the Females all stay home and watch over the family while her husband goes out and work, but as you know, history can change on it's own where we have a lot of Females demanding equal right like they can be able to vote and work in industries like Males works in, although we still don't see a whole lot of this, but it is growing a tiny bit by each passing year that goes by (that's why we have less jokes about the opposite gender nowadays vs a century ago). And this is coming from a guy.

So, in reality, no gender (or race, origin, or anything else) have any kind of superiority over the others, some people thinks so, while others don't. I think it's getting less and less of an issue when time goes on.
It really depends on that their field of work is. Men might have more superiority that Females and Females has more superiority than Males. So all and all, it's really even out. So, really. Humans are humans, no matter on their gender.

Sure, I know in history that Males wants to be more superior than Females, like working, voting and a bunch of other things and the Females all stay home and watch over the family while her husband goes out and work, but as you know, history can change on it's own where we have a lot of Females demanding equal right like they can be able to vote and work in industries like Males works in, although we still don't see a whole lot of this, but it is growing a tiny bit by each passing year that goes by (that's why we have less jokes about the opposite gender nowadays vs a century ago). And this is coming from a guy.

So, in reality, no gender (or race, origin, or anything else) have any kind of superiority over the others, some people thinks so, while others don't. I think it's getting less and less of an issue when time goes on.
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males have good strenght and females got attraction
but they both good.
it depends on humans and not all of them.
males have good strenght and females got attraction
but they both good.
it depends on humans and not all of them.
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So the vote so far is 8 people riding center of the road that both genders are equal and 1 vote for men. Still looking for more to get involved ... especially some women in here. Me I will forever stay in the middle of the road ( selfishly on my part because my wife has seen this and I like sleeping in bed ) because no matter how you look at it men and women have what each of the other does not have. Using a stupid old tired line I have seen in many movies and television shows " They complete each other. " I mean you can say guys are stronger and for the most part that is true but I have seen many women that would give guys a run for their money for sheer work through it all ethics. It may not be physical strength as such but it is endurance by which most measure strength. You could argue the points for either gender but in the end I think you would eventually have to go the middle of the road to that question. If you get down to brass tacks and go point by point you'd see the issue is pretty darn even. Either way looking forward to what else anyone may say that comes in here. :O)
So the vote so far is 8 people riding center of the road that both genders are equal and 1 vote for men. Still looking for more to get involved ... especially some women in here. Me I will forever stay in the middle of the road ( selfishly on my part because my wife has seen this and I like sleeping in bed ) because no matter how you look at it men and women have what each of the other does not have. Using a stupid old tired line I have seen in many movies and television shows " They complete each other. " I mean you can say guys are stronger and for the most part that is true but I have seen many women that would give guys a run for their money for sheer work through it all ethics. It may not be physical strength as such but it is endurance by which most measure strength. You could argue the points for either gender but in the end I think you would eventually have to go the middle of the road to that question. If you get down to brass tacks and go point by point you'd see the issue is pretty darn even. Either way looking forward to what else anyone may say that comes in here. :O)
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Brain-Splattered : Wow, ouch, I AM the only one getting involved on one side or the other.
Weird.
Oh well, I still say men, plus we have muscles! Naturally. Of course, an active woman will often be more fit than a non-active man, but men in general are the stronger gender.
Plus, we're great at handling kids, like I said before, my Dad is a way better parent than my Mom. Way better, and I see that a lot in my family.
Brain-Splattered : Wow, ouch, I AM the only one getting involved on one side or the other.
Weird.
Oh well, I still say men, plus we have muscles! Naturally. Of course, an active woman will often be more fit than a non-active man, but men in general are the stronger gender.
Plus, we're great at handling kids, like I said before, my Dad is a way better parent than my Mom. Way better, and I see that a lot in my family.
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Brain-Splattered :

I imagine more people would answer if you set a fixed "Goal Post".

Biology vs Society = what outcome?

Is where I'm getting at.

Set a standard or Condition or a Goal to measure and an answer will come with ease and grace.

Still..
I like the read of this thread anyway.
Good Luck On Your Project.

Good Luck To All.
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I imagine more people would answer if you set a fixed "Goal Post".

Biology vs Society = what outcome?

Is where I'm getting at.

Set a standard or Condition or a Goal to measure and an answer will come with ease and grace.

Still..
I like the read of this thread anyway.
Good Luck On Your Project.

Good Luck To All.
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orionfoxgibson : I hear ya' and next time I probably will do that. I did not this time tho because I did not want to force anyone to pick a gender. I want to hear what people have to say on the matter and let them decide which gender they wish to choose or not as the case may be. I figured the debate would be way more heated but either way I agree the reading for this thread is good and I'm enjoying it. 
@ Titan127 : I hear ya' dude. I kinda agree with you and most guys and girls would also. Still can't come out and say one is better than the other because each one can do things better than the other. Sorry to hear about your parents man. I know a few families like that but most the ones I know are clear defined roles ( Men go out and work and the women take care of the home, bills, and kids. ). I'd say probably about 30% of the families I know are a lot like my family was( no clear roles cuz everyone shares the responsibilities and does it together ). Heck even me and my wife get at it sometimes because she likes to say a lot of physical things are by her upbringing ( a guy thing ). I always tell her your arms ain't broke so do it. I usually end up doing it anyways but it is same thing all the time when it comes to anything really physical or dealing with car care and upkeep ... oh and yard work. lol
orionfoxgibson : I hear ya' and next time I probably will do that. I did not this time tho because I did not want to force anyone to pick a gender. I want to hear what people have to say on the matter and let them decide which gender they wish to choose or not as the case may be. I figured the debate would be way more heated but either way I agree the reading for this thread is good and I'm enjoying it. 
@ Titan127 : I hear ya' dude. I kinda agree with you and most guys and girls would also. Still can't come out and say one is better than the other because each one can do things better than the other. Sorry to hear about your parents man. I know a few families like that but most the ones I know are clear defined roles ( Men go out and work and the women take care of the home, bills, and kids. ). I'd say probably about 30% of the families I know are a lot like my family was( no clear roles cuz everyone shares the responsibilities and does it together ). Heck even me and my wife get at it sometimes because she likes to say a lot of physical things are by her upbringing ( a guy thing ). I always tell her your arms ain't broke so do it. I usually end up doing it anyways but it is same thing all the time when it comes to anything really physical or dealing with car care and upkeep ... oh and yard work. lol
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In my experience women multi-task way better than men, where men on the other hand can be much more focused.  I know I'm probably going to open up a can of worms, but apply this to driving - It's a well known fact that men's brains are wired for "spacial vision thinking" and some studies have shown that men are better able to perceive time and speed and can more easily rotate 3-D figures in their brains, skills which are helpful enough to overcome other risky behaviors behind the wheel.  Women's brains are wired for social interactions, nurturing, talking, catering etc. in other words, they're a bit more "scatterbrained" ;p  which is not ideal when driving where more focus is required.

Another example.  Women tend to remember more stuff than men, or at least in my household this applies.  My wife almost always remember every single birthday of every single friend and family member.  I on the other hand is useless when it comes to that.  Women are also all about the details especially when it comes to inviting guests for dinner.  For them it's about the "ambiance".  Just give me a paper plate, piece of meat, plastic / steel / iron fork and knife and I'm good to go.

There are obviously many more examples, but as you can see there are pros and cons on both sides, so I guess I'm also taking the middle road.
In my experience women multi-task way better than men, where men on the other hand can be much more focused.  I know I'm probably going to open up a can of worms, but apply this to driving - It's a well known fact that men's brains are wired for "spacial vision thinking" and some studies have shown that men are better able to perceive time and speed and can more easily rotate 3-D figures in their brains, skills which are helpful enough to overcome other risky behaviors behind the wheel.  Women's brains are wired for social interactions, nurturing, talking, catering etc. in other words, they're a bit more "scatterbrained" ;p  which is not ideal when driving where more focus is required.

Another example.  Women tend to remember more stuff than men, or at least in my household this applies.  My wife almost always remember every single birthday of every single friend and family member.  I on the other hand is useless when it comes to that.  Women are also all about the details especially when it comes to inviting guests for dinner.  For them it's about the "ambiance".  Just give me a paper plate, piece of meat, plastic / steel / iron fork and knife and I'm good to go.

There are obviously many more examples, but as you can see there are pros and cons on both sides, so I guess I'm also taking the middle road.
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In my opinion, the answer is very simple here...women. If it wasn't for my wife, I have no idea where I would be or what kind of situation I would be in right now. She takes such good care of me and our 5 pets ( 3 cats, 2 dogs ) and I love her every single day for it. If you looked at a brief overview of our relationship starting when we first met, you'd see that she handles things WAY better than me. In fact, she's probably teaching me things about life that even my parents did not.

I mean, I can do a couple things just as good as her. Multitask is one of them, and that's mostly because of my job, especially when I'm busy. But overall, she does a lot more than me with her jobs ( a full time AND part time job ) and housework ( I do help her with that ). Let me tell you...she is a superwoman, and for that, I will say that women are better than men, and you can thank my wife for that!
In my opinion, the answer is very simple here...women. If it wasn't for my wife, I have no idea where I would be or what kind of situation I would be in right now. She takes such good care of me and our 5 pets ( 3 cats, 2 dogs ) and I love her every single day for it. If you looked at a brief overview of our relationship starting when we first met, you'd see that she handles things WAY better than me. In fact, she's probably teaching me things about life that even my parents did not.

I mean, I can do a couple things just as good as her. Multitask is one of them, and that's mostly because of my job, especially when I'm busy. But overall, she does a lot more than me with her jobs ( a full time AND part time job ) and housework ( I do help her with that ). Let me tell you...she is a superwoman, and for that, I will say that women are better than men, and you can thank my wife for that!
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MattyIce : You have betrayed men everywhere...

Lol, good for you, I'm still 14, so personally, from what. I've seen of girls, they're expensive and needy, but, once again, happy you found your match.

Another reason that my cause is correct(expensiveness in general), but it looks like we've got 1 on each side now! Woohoo! Debating time!

MattyIce : You have betrayed men everywhere...

Lol, good for you, I'm still 14, so personally, from what. I've seen of girls, they're expensive and needy, but, once again, happy you found your match.

Another reason that my cause is correct(expensiveness in general), but it looks like we've got 1 on each side now! Woohoo! Debating time!

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Though I don't think we should ever pretend to know the answer to this question, I think this would tilt in the favor of women when it comes to handling modern day life. Simply because women still have to deal with plenty of out-dated social pressures from day-to-day but still manage to keep themselves together.

I also think that while there are certain generalizations we make, often unintentionally, about each gender, these generalizations shouldn't be used to limit any individual person from achieving their dreams.
Though I don't think we should ever pretend to know the answer to this question, I think this would tilt in the favor of women when it comes to handling modern day life. Simply because women still have to deal with plenty of out-dated social pressures from day-to-day but still manage to keep themselves together.

I also think that while there are certain generalizations we make, often unintentionally, about each gender, these generalizations shouldn't be used to limit any individual person from achieving their dreams.
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EideticMemory : Bye the great brustesprout, he's got a point.
Unfortunatly, these 'generalizations,' are often true, at least in my experience.
But I won't sat either that women are horrible, evil creatures, just...difficult for me to understand, and less efficient in day-to-day life than men.
EideticMemory : Bye the great brustesprout, he's got a point.
Unfortunatly, these 'generalizations,' are often true, at least in my experience.
But I won't sat either that women are horrible, evil creatures, just...difficult for me to understand, and less efficient in day-to-day life than men.
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@ Titan127 Yeah he does have a point. Hate to be the one that bears the bad news about women but they are evil creatures that you will struggle to understand for the rest of your life. I can guarantee that you won't care if they annoy you a bit or get a bit weird cuz you'll love them all the same when you find the right one. It's a crap shoot as to whether you come out to the good or the bad. lol
@ Titan127 Yeah he does have a point. Hate to be the one that bears the bad news about women but they are evil creatures that you will struggle to understand for the rest of your life. I can guarantee that you won't care if they annoy you a bit or get a bit weird cuz you'll love them all the same when you find the right one. It's a crap shoot as to whether you come out to the good or the bad. lol
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