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Does Age Truly Correspond With Wisdom?

 

07-18-14 10:44 AM
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Many people assume that as one ages, they grow more mature, and somehow have this vast wisdom associated with it. I will take a mid-ground/opposing position with this. One can age and grow wiser, but that depends on what they do during their life. Experience is gained throughout one's living time, and people learn from those experiences. However, the knowledge one gains does not always result in wisdom. People have the ability to learn from their mistakes and experiences, but some people either do not learn, or learn [incorrectly]. I believe that this causes some to lack wisdom in their old age, and this is a result of their incorrigibility. Of course, one is capable of gaining wisdom with age, but wisdom is not directly caused by age. What are your thoughts? 
Many people assume that as one ages, they grow more mature, and somehow have this vast wisdom associated with it. I will take a mid-ground/opposing position with this. One can age and grow wiser, but that depends on what they do during their life. Experience is gained throughout one's living time, and people learn from those experiences. However, the knowledge one gains does not always result in wisdom. People have the ability to learn from their mistakes and experiences, but some people either do not learn, or learn [incorrectly]. I believe that this causes some to lack wisdom in their old age, and this is a result of their incorrigibility. Of course, one is capable of gaining wisdom with age, but wisdom is not directly caused by age. What are your thoughts? 

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My thoughts?
George W Bush.
Junior.


If that was wisdom from age, god help anyone who dealt with him as a kid.
Age gives you the potential to know more, but only if you actively tried to learn through those years. A lot of people see someone with grey hair and automatically think, I bet he knows a lot, or what great things did he do for his country?
an 18 year old, and a 60year old, can be thick as bricks, or have wasted all their years drinking every day.
Or they can be geniuses, and perfect citizens.
Age doesent mean you are better in any regard, It just increases the odds slightly.


My thoughts?
George W Bush.
Junior.


If that was wisdom from age, god help anyone who dealt with him as a kid.
Age gives you the potential to know more, but only if you actively tried to learn through those years. A lot of people see someone with grey hair and automatically think, I bet he knows a lot, or what great things did he do for his country?
an 18 year old, and a 60year old, can be thick as bricks, or have wasted all their years drinking every day.
Or they can be geniuses, and perfect citizens.
Age doesent mean you are better in any regard, It just increases the odds slightly.





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No, I pretty much agree with what you said Soap. I had a grandma ( passed away ) who never got a chance to go to school during her life time. You could tell that she didn't understand many things going on around her but she would always try to understand and help out in anyway that she could.

Wisdom mostly comes to those who seek it. Rather than it coming to you. It is your choice to grasp it or just let it slip past you.
No, I pretty much agree with what you said Soap. I had a grandma ( passed away ) who never got a chance to go to school during her life time. You could tell that she didn't understand many things going on around her but she would always try to understand and help out in anyway that she could.

Wisdom mostly comes to those who seek it. Rather than it coming to you. It is your choice to grasp it or just let it slip past you.

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thenumberone : Those quotes were great

Only if you have learned actively when you were young. People may get smarter when they age but that's because they start to think more about things. My granma is smart but that's because she learned a lot when she was young, not because she aged. People from 20 years or 70 years old can be as smart as each other, depending on what they learned before.

thenumberone : Those quotes were great

Only if you have learned actively when you were young. People may get smarter when they age but that's because they start to think more about things. My granma is smart but that's because she learned a lot when she was young, not because she aged. People from 20 years or 70 years old can be as smart as each other, depending on what they learned before.

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I agree with what you said, wisdom involves a lot more than just age. The experience, as well as how you react to the experience are a great contributor to wisdom, and through experience, influence of others will also leave an impression of your wisdom. I believe it's how you react to your cirsumsyances that teaches you about wisdom, whether you take whatever you are doing with seriousness, or you simply lose track of it. The first time you react to such an event will act as a foundation for what you learn and how you use that knowledge.
I agree with what you said, wisdom involves a lot more than just age. The experience, as well as how you react to the experience are a great contributor to wisdom, and through experience, influence of others will also leave an impression of your wisdom. I believe it's how you react to your cirsumsyances that teaches you about wisdom, whether you take whatever you are doing with seriousness, or you simply lose track of it. The first time you react to such an event will act as a foundation for what you learn and how you use that knowledge.

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Age does not mean wisdom; it merely means one has had more opportunity’s to acquire wisdom. Yes, the chances of someone being 'wise' are increased with age, but it truly means nothing unless the individual chooses to seek wisdom. As stated above, one can live to a ripe old age but never have the ‘wisdom’ the others around have. You can be a daft oldie as easily as you can be daft young’un. In fact there was a comedy based on that. Wisdom is acquired through experience and study; it does not come without at least some effort.
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Age does not mean wisdom; it merely means one has had more opportunity’s to acquire wisdom. Yes, the chances of someone being 'wise' are increased with age, but it truly means nothing unless the individual chooses to seek wisdom. As stated above, one can live to a ripe old age but never have the ‘wisdom’ the others around have. You can be a daft oldie as easily as you can be daft young’un. In fact there was a comedy based on that. Wisdom is acquired through experience and study; it does not come without at least some effort.

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In a way, yes. I mean, as you get older, your brain develops more, and you are able to learn more. However, as you get older, you learn more about yourself, and when you learn more about yourself, you tend to let that new side of you out, and sometimes, it is not exactly becoming of your age. yes, everybody has their inner-child, but still. You have to learn to control it, and when to let it out. 

So my final answer is this: In a Way. 
In a way, yes. I mean, as you get older, your brain develops more, and you are able to learn more. However, as you get older, you learn more about yourself, and when you learn more about yourself, you tend to let that new side of you out, and sometimes, it is not exactly becoming of your age. yes, everybody has their inner-child, but still. You have to learn to control it, and when to let it out. 

So my final answer is this: In a Way. 

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thenumberone : I know where the two of us stand politically.  Anyone can have a bad day and some people aren't skilled at public speaking.

Allow me to counter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

Everyone has bad days.

And answering the question, thenumberone is completely correct.  Wisdom comes from learning from your experiences.  People who are older have experiences, survive them, and should take away a lesson here or there.  A five year old may be clever but they don't have a real world application to all they have seen.  A twenty year old may be brilliant but they they can't apply that to the real world either.  Yet I have seen better decisions and more acceptance for culture out of younger people than older adults. 

Take the quote from Good Will Hunting:

Michelangelo? You know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations. Him and the pope. Sexual orientation. The whole works, right? I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling.

That's wisdom.  A person should be wiser compared to themselves at an earlier age.  However, you can't compare one person to the next.  We're all just people and we make mistakes.

Age generally corresponds with wisdom.  It's a rule.  There are exceptions to that rule.
thenumberone : I know where the two of us stand politically.  Anyone can have a bad day and some people aren't skilled at public speaking.

Allow me to counter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

Everyone has bad days.

And answering the question, thenumberone is completely correct.  Wisdom comes from learning from your experiences.  People who are older have experiences, survive them, and should take away a lesson here or there.  A five year old may be clever but they don't have a real world application to all they have seen.  A twenty year old may be brilliant but they they can't apply that to the real world either.  Yet I have seen better decisions and more acceptance for culture out of younger people than older adults. 

Take the quote from Good Will Hunting:

Michelangelo? You know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations. Him and the pope. Sexual orientation. The whole works, right? I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling.

That's wisdom.  A person should be wiser compared to themselves at an earlier age.  However, you can't compare one person to the next.  We're all just people and we make mistakes.

Age generally corresponds with wisdom.  It's a rule.  There are exceptions to that rule.


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I have always believed that wisdom comes from experience and learning from your mistakes. It comes from the way you approach and handle new experiences that come your way. Its not a given that you will be wise just because your old because there are people that are very young and also bright just because of their overall experience with life. Sure, there are other factors that can determine wiseness such as the ability to approach and overcome problems as well as being emotionally stable. In short, there are many things attributes that are factored in, but overall, the more experience you have, the better off you will be. I could go on all day with this, but I think I'll just leave it at that for now.
I have always believed that wisdom comes from experience and learning from your mistakes. It comes from the way you approach and handle new experiences that come your way. Its not a given that you will be wise just because your old because there are people that are very young and also bright just because of their overall experience with life. Sure, there are other factors that can determine wiseness such as the ability to approach and overcome problems as well as being emotionally stable. In short, there are many things attributes that are factored in, but overall, the more experience you have, the better off you will be. I could go on all day with this, but I think I'll just leave it at that for now.

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warmaker :
Politics is irrelevant here, I searched for a
bush image and found a romney one too. The obama one isnt as good because hes very early senior.
That being said, I never said he was smart, or in fact that I think hes a good president.
Thats a good film incidentally.
warmaker :
Politics is irrelevant here, I searched for a
bush image and found a romney one too. The obama one isnt as good because hes very early senior.
That being said, I never said he was smart, or in fact that I think hes a good president.
Thats a good film incidentally.


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In my opinion age is only important if you see it like the time factor. You can "measure" wisdom (in my opinion what I think you mean is maturity) by putting strong personal experiences in the y axis and time in the x axis.
If you think that this opinion is too raw think about this in the "philosophical" way, for example imagine a giant rock, a perfect and polished giant rock that you desperately want to climb, but you cant because its too polished. Now imagine that every time you have a life experience a crack opens on the rock, the stronger the experience, the deeper the crack on the rock will be. Those cracks will allow you to climb it, but if an experience is too strong the crack may break the stone and it may be impossible to climb. If you haven't understood yet, the rock represents your inner self and if you think hard enough you'll understand the deeper meaning of this metaphor.
 
In my opinion age is only important if you see it like the time factor. You can "measure" wisdom (in my opinion what I think you mean is maturity) by putting strong personal experiences in the y axis and time in the x axis.
If you think that this opinion is too raw think about this in the "philosophical" way, for example imagine a giant rock, a perfect and polished giant rock that you desperately want to climb, but you cant because its too polished. Now imagine that every time you have a life experience a crack opens on the rock, the stronger the experience, the deeper the crack on the rock will be. Those cracks will allow you to climb it, but if an experience is too strong the crack may break the stone and it may be impossible to climb. If you haven't understood yet, the rock represents your inner self and if you think hard enough you'll understand the deeper meaning of this metaphor.
 

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In no way is age directly related to wisdom. However, life experience definitely helps. Age indirectly gives you wisdom; the life experience is a tool used by the wise.
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In no way is age directly related to wisdom. However, life experience definitely helps. Age indirectly gives you wisdom; the life experience is a tool used by the wise.

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Age is not directly related to wisdom, but they often do go together. Usually, as you get older you learn more and more things and become more wise. But just because you are old, doesn't mean that you are smart. For example, I am a lot smarter than my cousin, even though she is 2 years older than me. However, as both of us age, we will most likely become more wise. So they often do go together, but they are not linked.
Age is not directly related to wisdom, but they often do go together. Usually, as you get older you learn more and more things and become more wise. But just because you are old, doesn't mean that you are smart. For example, I am a lot smarter than my cousin, even though she is 2 years older than me. However, as both of us age, we will most likely become more wise. So they often do go together, but they are not linked.

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From wikipedia:
Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense, and insight

What does age give opportunities for?
- More knowledge
- More experience(and very like more intense too)
- More understanding
- More common sense
I don't know for sure about insight.

But this giving of opportunities isn't in linear correlation, and at some point of life the opportunities will be less or gone.

So, if the person makes use of enough of the opportunities in time, then wisdom will seem to correspond with age for some time. But as you can see, there are more than one factors for wisdom(and depends upon the person's free-will whether the person wants to be wise or not etc.), and they can be given as opportunities by age, but not sort of spoon-fed by age. Hence more age increases likelihood of increasing wisdom, but it doesn't increase wisdom by itself.
From wikipedia:
Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense, and insight

What does age give opportunities for?
- More knowledge
- More experience(and very like more intense too)
- More understanding
- More common sense
I don't know for sure about insight.

But this giving of opportunities isn't in linear correlation, and at some point of life the opportunities will be less or gone.

So, if the person makes use of enough of the opportunities in time, then wisdom will seem to correspond with age for some time. But as you can see, there are more than one factors for wisdom(and depends upon the person's free-will whether the person wants to be wise or not etc.), and they can be given as opportunities by age, but not sort of spoon-fed by age. Hence more age increases likelihood of increasing wisdom, but it doesn't increase wisdom by itself.

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