Hello guys it's me greenluigi bringing another Mario thread. To be honest guys, I'm a bit bored of the Mario series. Why? You'll find out right now! So every time Princess Peach is always kidnapped by Bowser. Mario goes to save her and he beats Bowser up. Every time it's like this. It started to get boring. Second reasons, most of the Mario games, the main antagonist is Bowser over, and over and over! Nintendo should really make new antagonists in the Mario series. I'm not saying they remove Bowser, I'm saying that new antagonists should arrive. Bowser never dies. Well guys, what do you think about it? Are my reasons right?

PacmanandMariofan : What do you think pal? Am I right or wrong?

Now... You care a lot about the story I don't. If the games are great, I won't lose interest. But to everyone their own.

imamonster : The games are great that's for sure. The gameplay too. But if Bowser reappears to kidnap Peach over, over and over... will you get bored?

That's the thing, No. I don't get bored of it because the games are incredible,

greenluigi : A great game doesn't need to have a great game story. Pokémon is always repeating, ten year old kid wants to be the best, challenges eight battle pro's and ultimately you take on Four champions and one real Champion. And you always fight a team full of baddies, there are always professors and many more things.

Mario is the same, you play a plumber (who almost never plumbs, but when he does he's great at it together with his brother) and a princess is kidnapped by a monster turtle who tries to stop you but he always forgets the Bridge Destroy Button and then Kamek makes him giant but he still fails.

But still, everybody loves these games. Why? Because they still play really smooth, have great characters, stunning graphics and beautiful music. 

I still love the Mario series even though they are repetitive they are still awesome.

I see exactly what you mean. Most Mario games are virtually the same. Not just the same story, but very often the same depth... Which is why I don't like playing them much anymore. Platformers are fun, but do we need 50 platformers with the same exact story? Eh, no.

Nowadays the only Mario games I play are New Super Mario Bros. Wii (actually, I play a ROMhack of it called Newer Super Mario Bros. Wii), sometimes Super Paper Mario, Mario Kart Wii (another hack, I only play CTGP Revolution), and occasionally Super Mario Galaxy 2.

Personally, I was never a big fan of Mario. I am not sure why, but I could never get into the series. I agree with your statement about the main antagonist, and how that should definitely change, as it is becoming rather stale. I would even suggest having Bowser completely removed from a new game. It would give the game something new and fresh. The new character would obviously also have to be of a different type of antagonist. If they were the same type, then you would essentially be fighting the same type of boss, and it would, essentially, still be the same thing as it was before. Seeing as you are losing interest in the Mario series, you could give another platformer a try. I would personally suggest LittleBigPlanet. It is one of the closest things to Mario, while still being a different game. It just has a bit more depth, and the game pans out a little differently due to the change in style. 

greenluigi :

Well, that's the thing, I think that it's just an age thing.

You get older, you want more stuff in your games.

You want better stories, you want better content. etc.

That's why I moved onto Zelda, and then that got old after the 4th rehash of saving Zelda, and Gannon getting the triforce. etc.

MM is the only really different one, that's for sure.

Even to this very day, I swear that OOT is the main Zelda, MM is it's of branch sequal, and TP is the follow up- albeit still way to similar to OOT.

The other Zeldas? They don't exist. They're just to many rehashes.

Zelda in my mind is a three part series that never existed outside the N64 and it's next gen revisit called Twilight Princess.

bombchu link : Agree?

Mario on the other hand is just the same game.  . updated, slightly changed, and is something that you play for fun, and I have no problem with that! 

Though honestly. . . I'd just rather play SMB3 hacks when I want a new Mario. flying fish, what fun. At least in those the physics aren't so slow and such. Plus I still get tanokkie suits.

Mario 64 + Sunshine is different enough though! Yeah, same bit with peach getting captured, but the SETTINGS are SO DIFFERENT!

FLUDD changed stuff up a lot though. . 

Galaxy was a nice threequal, though too babyish to enjoy for me. Galaxy 2 was a nice sequal to Galaxy 1 though still too babyish for me.

New villain would be neat, in fact, a better look into the Mario world would be swell, but if you're looking for that, then play the RPg titles. THey have some new villains and neat stuff going on.

As for me. . . .I've kinda moved on. 


There is a whole new world out there of indie games on Steam that break free of patterns. They have freshness, they have life, they have love put into them. They are not just rehashes of the last gen's rehash every time that they come out, so I'm heading there. I'm actually releasing my own medieval adventure game there someday- Me and some friends are working on it.

My favorite "traditional" series is sonic. Yeah, I know, it always come back to Dr. Eggman, but there is always a new, and very important spin on things that change everything. Like Mephiles, E-102 Gamma, etc.

I think that you just need a break from the game is all though. Just step back and try some newer, more different things.

Everybody has figured this out for a long time green.

 Bowser always kidnaps peach and it is always bowser and that is the thing about mario. It never changes almost.

 Well the story are always the same so maybe try a different set of mario games like super star saga or some of the mario party games where he does not kidnap peach.

*crawls out of dark corner*

greenluigi :  

Whelp, I honestly felt the say way as you did back a few years ago. 

Some say that Mario will never get old, and if you like that kind of thing it never will. 

It's like this, Mario is fun because of the gameplay (I mean who can actually take the plot seriously after a repetition of the same things 100 times over)  It's a goomba stomping, block crushing game for the whole family. If you like happy smiley family friendly games, then it's a great game for you. 


But... there are some things the games lack...

Plot (like I said above)
Characters (just look at the entire cast, they had to use Dry Bowser in the olympics from the lack of another villain) 
Depth (Where there is no plot there is no depth) 

The elements stated above are for slightly older audiences, little kids wouldn't understand it really and could care less about it. 

The target age for Mario games are 6-11 year olds, I'm not saying that you immediately have to stop playing them. heck as I'm typing this, my sister (she's 15) is playing a mario game right behind me. 


 If you're looking for a more mature games, then I would suggest Cave Story, and Sonic games (though not the most recent entries, go back to 1999 - 2008 or the retro titles in the RGR. Oh, and I would HIGHLY suggest looking into the alternate meadia of sonic, like Sonic X and the more recent comics) Cave Story is just a little jewel with a great story driven plot and it's fairly similar to Mario in play style. 


Sonic is a Series that can actually be taken seriously. (when we set aside the corny sonic colors humor)

I mean, there are some pretty epic moments in sonic games that really got to me, (This would be one of them)
Looking at sonic adventure DX/2 There were some really good plot points and it's something I can take seriously to this day. 

(also *cough* I likes sonic next gen's plot despite all the holes)



Anyway, that should give you some stuff to look at and possibly interest you for at least a while. 
If you actually like anything posted above, please feel free to actually respond to my rambling, I would love to actually talks to someone seriously about Sonic/Cave Story.
 
*crawls back into corner*

Oh, shoot! I didn't see this thread until today! Sorry to keep you waiting!

I think some of your reasons are right. I never got bored of the Mario series because of the great gameplay, but I did get tired of Princess Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser so much instead of a different problem. I don't think Nintendo should make new antagonists because there are plenty of old ones such as Fawful.

greenluigi : hey guys my interest is back on the Mario series . This series will never get old. I still love it a lot and I will buy Mario Kart 8 soon!

I have to agree, so they should get a new antagonist, kind of like what Sonic is doing with Lyric in Sonic Boom instead of Eggman. The Koopa Kids even would be good enough if there was no Bowser.