This thread is about if you think Obama is a good president or not. Personally, I do not think he is doing a very good job. But I will discuss this later if people respond. Basically, give your opinion on whether Obama is a good president or not.

I think he's stupid. He's signing our rights away! (thats just what my mom said so i don't know how accurate it is).

To tell you the truth not really.He made obama care which makes the wealthy citizens give to the  poor and all of that so I don't think he is doing a great job.The people that look up to him is only because he is the first african american president.

edit:Obama care makes health care affordable to the poor.

austipokedude : Well that's not very accurate at all. I don't think you know what ObamaCare even is. And to top it all off, the ol' race card. Classic.
Personally, I don't have a strong opinion either way. He's not particularly great, but he's also not nearly as awful as people like to pretend. They see any given social issue or government conflict and blame Obama - it's happened enough to become a meme even. I'd say he's played fairly well with the hand he was dealt.

I would use the word... better.
Frankly, I have disliked pretty much every us president since Roosevelt.
And george bush... my god, never did i think the usa would sink to given all its vested power to something below monkey on the evolutionary scale. A man who could barely read, whos favourite childhood book was published while he was at college, given control of the biggest economy and military on the planet. I actually though if aliens came and landed in america, they would take one look and quarantine the planet.
So yeh, Obama now seems like a solid gold choice.
Frankly you didnt have a great choice the last couple of elections either. Clinton let her husband do all the work, and romney was almost as stupid and offensive as george bush (junior).
If he (obama) was standing for election in the uk, i cant really say. I almost feel like he acts more conservative than he is to appease voters, so hed maybe be acting different if he was standing here, but as he is now, he would be classed as conservative. Maybe not as conservative as our current government, i cant actually tell, but i probably wouldnt vote for him.
If i was american though, i probably would, damage control really, he has better ideas than the other competitors. You really need some fresh faces though.
It probably doesent make much difference though, the two partys are pretty similar, they only really differ in certain areas. It would kind of drive me nuts to be voting for red or maroon so to speak.

It could be worse, really.

jaws123 :
You shouldnt just quote other people, thats what sheep do. Even if you come to that conclusion yourself its better than just going with what others do. Too many people neglect tomake an informed decision

I think that he is not the best president but it is hard to manage this terrible economy but I thought Ronald Reagan was a good president though when the economy was not a disaster like it is now. He could do more to improve the conditions of things, and yeah like austipokedude said most of his popularity is mostly from being the first African american president. So I think he isn't doing that great of a job, but then again the economy is in the trash right now so I guess it is not all of his fault but he could try to do more to make things better. One of the best presidents I thought was Ronald Reagan.

thenumberone : Oh here we go. Now you bring up old presidents that supposedly did a bad job, and you use that as evidence as to why you think Obama is a better president. George bush did not do a bad job. Now Obama on the other hand, managed to worsen the economy some how. He is spending way to much money on such idiotic things. He also takes way to many vacation trips, wasting the tax payers dollar. Obama said that he was going to better the economy in 1 term. Look at what he has accomplished, oh wait, he hasn't accomplished anything. Oh what about Benghazi? Is he just going to get people to cover for him so he doesn't get impeached out of the presidency? He need to tell the American people what happened that night. I would hope that that doesn't go unheard. So, therefore, he is a bad president, in my opinion.

I get to hear about a whole lotta stuff Obama has done, and my opinion of him is less than favorable. I would be okay with an impeachment, and I'll stop there.

I do want to say, though, he is our president. We do need to respect him. You may think he's "Stupid", and I may or may not agree with that. He's the President of the US, however, and that position deserves respect.

One of my biggest problems with him? Bengazi.

MordecooLol23 :
George bush did not do a bad job???really???
He got half the western world bogged down in a war, where our enemies had been supplied and trained by the usa itself.
He opened Guantanamo bay.
He called the french cowards for not joining the iraq war (something obama actually apologied for).
Deregulated half the economy (financial crisis anyone?)
Cut tax for the wealthy.
Failed to clean up after katrina

Even his father was nuts, saying he thought atheists shouldnt be classed as us citizens.

"worsen the economy somehow"
And you come up with no evidence of this.
"too many holidays"
Bush never interupted his holiday for hurricane katrina. Obama always drops what hes doing when events like that occur.
And saying he is dishonest. Yes, certainly. But nowhere near as much as bush. Pathological liar. Worse by the fact he was so thick he couldn't convince half the people he talked to.

You are claiming bush is good and obama bad, without offering any reasons for one or the other. Frankly i think youre guilty of uninformed decisions.

MordecooLol23 : It is literally impossible to explain why Obama is better without referencing previous presidents. If you don't reference anyone else, there is no comparison, and no "better".

I don't think he's doing a great job, but he's not doing too badly, either. Certainly better than Bush. I think Sephitard9001 summed it up pretty well: He's doing the best he can with what he's got.

And, aside from whatever else he's been doing, he seems like a pretty damn nice guy. Whenever there's some disaster, he rushes over to help out, or to personally offer his support/condolences.

MordecooLol23 :
Thank you for the smiley, i very much enjoyed it.
He never said he could make things disapear, he said he would bring change. Frankly im inclined to agree the change hasnt been particularly huge unless you count a president with basic English skills a change(made all the more funny by the fact people claimed he was an immigrant).
Also, the past is very important. "those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them" Mistakes were clearly made, look at the financial crises. Yet too many people are forgetting about it which means it will happen again.
Wow, 3 americans. as opposed to about 300 thousand in the last however many wars(and thats just americans).
Unless you have tangible evidence he is hiding something that claim doesent have much to stand on.
I am not avoiding them, i asked you to specify what you were talking about, you have avoided doing so, until you give me that how can i rebuke it?
All politicians are lying cheats. At the end of the day, your vote is damage control.
Being good is relative. Without bad people how can you be good? If i cant reference others theres nothing to justify his accomplishment as a politician, same for every other leader the world over. Pretty much everything is relative. Greed, anger, beauty, skill, manners, if everyone was as smart as Einstein, he wouldn't be classed as smart. And if i couldn't reference other scientists, how could i prove his scientific genius?

Not that im putting Obama on par with Einstein, before you seize on that.

IgorBird122 :
Thats the bogged down in a war part i was referencing.
Im not saying that intervention couldnt have been good. it could have been something noble, and our goal could have been to actually help our fellow man. But it wasnt. It was to chase americas most wanted and secure the oil. Its often said war is a battle of winning hearts and minds, so that war was lost the moment it begun. It didnt help when bush said we were on a crusade. Super, turn it into a religious war, it wasnt bad enough already, lets poke the bear with a feces covered stick.

hypermonkey :
Id be inclined to agree with that

thenumberone : Oh yea, you talked about Guantanamo Bay. How about how Obama said he was going to close it? He never did. You said Bush never helped people of Katrina. How about Obama going to New Jersey to take pictures with Chris Christie and just leaving? A lot of people are still not in their homes. So yea you tell me how things are getting "better" as you say.

MordecooLol23 : Obama actually did try to shut down Guantanomo. He was blocked by Congress.

Traduweise : Gee I wonder why?

MordecooLol23: I just hope you realize how little sense your argument(s) make.

Damn typo. Oh well, you'll see it anyway, as it's your thread.