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How can you identify Demonic possession and Demons?

 

12-21-12 08:44 PM
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So for one question that is on your lips or is almost on your lips: I do not worship Satan. Now onto my question, how do you identify Demonic Possession or Demons? I have always been a thinker (Most likely because I have Aspergers Syndrome) and have always been more and more curious. 
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So for one question that is on your lips or is almost on your lips: I do not worship Satan. Now onto my question, how do you identify Demonic Possession or Demons? I have always been a thinker (Most likely because I have Aspergers Syndrome) and have always been more and more curious. 
These are some people I'd like to see responses from considering they have similar beliefs to mine:
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I haven't seen possessions at all, actually........
The Connecticut Shooting may have been one, though.
Anyways, I really have no idea at all. Maybe when someone is mindlessly killing people, that could be an answer.
But for now, not really.
I haven't seen possessions at all, actually........
The Connecticut Shooting may have been one, though.
Anyways, I really have no idea at all. Maybe when someone is mindlessly killing people, that could be an answer.
But for now, not really.
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Well, I don't know that there is a specific way to recognize demonic possession or demons, to be honest.   I know that whatever isn't of God, is of Satan, and I know that God gives us feelings about things to avoid.  I -have- wondered for weeks now why this is never discussed.  For example, who believes in demons and demonic influences?  Who doesn't?  It was on my list to research and write about in one of my upcoming devotionals.

As mentioned, I think God warns us if something is unsafe sometimes.  It's part of discernment.  For example, I was looking through websites the other day and I saw one that just set my spirit screaming.  I immediately back off of it, my heart pounding in my chest.  I hadn't even looked at the page in detail, but something just told me that it wasn't safe to look at.

I also believe there is a difference between demonic possession and demonic attachment.  For example, if I have sinful urges to steal, I might be affected by a demon attached to some object I brought into my home. However, I wouldn't necessarily be possessed with it.  Being possessed with a demon means that you've allowed yourself to be controlled by a demonic spirit.  This is what happens to people like the shooter at the elementary school last week.

I'm sorry I can't really give more information, but I'll try to do some more searching in my bible on the issue.  Thank you for summoning me!
Well, I don't know that there is a specific way to recognize demonic possession or demons, to be honest.   I know that whatever isn't of God, is of Satan, and I know that God gives us feelings about things to avoid.  I -have- wondered for weeks now why this is never discussed.  For example, who believes in demons and demonic influences?  Who doesn't?  It was on my list to research and write about in one of my upcoming devotionals.

As mentioned, I think God warns us if something is unsafe sometimes.  It's part of discernment.  For example, I was looking through websites the other day and I saw one that just set my spirit screaming.  I immediately back off of it, my heart pounding in my chest.  I hadn't even looked at the page in detail, but something just told me that it wasn't safe to look at.

I also believe there is a difference between demonic possession and demonic attachment.  For example, if I have sinful urges to steal, I might be affected by a demon attached to some object I brought into my home. However, I wouldn't necessarily be possessed with it.  Being possessed with a demon means that you've allowed yourself to be controlled by a demonic spirit.  This is what happens to people like the shooter at the elementary school last week.

I'm sorry I can't really give more information, but I'll try to do some more searching in my bible on the issue.  Thank you for summoning me!
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Singelli : its not always the case they WANT the demon in there body.... my moms friends daughter was posseded she was like 5 and she tried throwing her brother out the window..
Singelli : its not always the case they WANT the demon in there body.... my moms friends daughter was posseded she was like 5 and she tried throwing her brother out the window..
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Singelli : No problem, you knowing lots on the Bible I though it'd be interesting to hear/read you thoughts!
Singelli : No problem, you knowing lots on the Bible I though it'd be interesting to hear/read you thoughts!
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If their head spins on their shoulders, and they start vomiting pea soup, then it's time to bust out the shotgun.

Honestly, I've been a Christian and asked to receive the holy spirit. Then, when nothing came of that, I became a satan worshipper and pleaded that demons possess me, just in the name of having some kind of proof. Still, nothing. Finally, I just became a straight-up atheist. That isn't to say that possessions of any sort may not exist, but even if they do, it seems as though it would be hard to differentiate between being possessed, and just being plain crazy. I've seen movies on possession, and how people float and speak in different languages, but I've never seen anything for my own eyes that wasn't dramatized for effect.

Dared, invoked, cursed, and accepted are all things I have done with spirits both good and evil, and I've never seen anything come of it. At the end of the day, we can't actually be an insane person to know what really drives them, so personally I think it would be impossible to determine if some sort of supernatural force was present or not.

People possessed by the holy spirit, wouldn't become atheist because they felt empty in religion. People who were possessed by demons wouldn't spend their lives dedicated to doing good for mankind, either, because I'm pretty sure satan wouldn't want to do good deeds. From things I have been through, I personally feel I have a valid reason to believe it doesn't exist, but I do acknowledge that I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just one of those people that slipped through the cracks, lol.
If their head spins on their shoulders, and they start vomiting pea soup, then it's time to bust out the shotgun.

Honestly, I've been a Christian and asked to receive the holy spirit. Then, when nothing came of that, I became a satan worshipper and pleaded that demons possess me, just in the name of having some kind of proof. Still, nothing. Finally, I just became a straight-up atheist. That isn't to say that possessions of any sort may not exist, but even if they do, it seems as though it would be hard to differentiate between being possessed, and just being plain crazy. I've seen movies on possession, and how people float and speak in different languages, but I've never seen anything for my own eyes that wasn't dramatized for effect.

Dared, invoked, cursed, and accepted are all things I have done with spirits both good and evil, and I've never seen anything come of it. At the end of the day, we can't actually be an insane person to know what really drives them, so personally I think it would be impossible to determine if some sort of supernatural force was present or not.

People possessed by the holy spirit, wouldn't become atheist because they felt empty in religion. People who were possessed by demons wouldn't spend their lives dedicated to doing good for mankind, either, because I'm pretty sure satan wouldn't want to do good deeds. From things I have been through, I personally feel I have a valid reason to believe it doesn't exist, but I do acknowledge that I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just one of those people that slipped through the cracks, lol.
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GuardianZack : It's crazy what some Satan worshipers do, like some make animal sacrifices! You might go hunting and you may meet some guy who seems nice but when he gets home you'll wonder what he'll do with that animal in his basement. And even worse, THEY SACRIFICE BABIES! I have heard they'll steal newborns, kill them/cannibalize them, and offer them to the Devil. Sorry, just threw up a little in my mouth.
GuardianZack : It's crazy what some Satan worshipers do, like some make animal sacrifices! You might go hunting and you may meet some guy who seems nice but when he gets home you'll wonder what he'll do with that animal in his basement. And even worse, THEY SACRIFICE BABIES! I have heard they'll steal newborns, kill them/cannibalize them, and offer them to the Devil. Sorry, just threw up a little in my mouth.
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BluemageKyle : That's nothing more than lies created by the zionist media.
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BluemageKyle : There are extreme cases where such acts have occurred in satanic cults, but I've heard countless times, that unlike god, the devil would be more than willing to do anything in its power to get ahold of you. That being said, I never took my satanic rituals to any of those extremes, because satan would be happy to get his hands on you regardless of sacrifices or rituals, just in the name of keeping you from god.


Although my reasons were purely experimental, they also were not because I support evil. I'm just one of those people that can't accept something without reason, and I was willing to go where most people would fear to go to obtain that reason, even if it meant damning myself for eternity. I don't claim to know everything, but I believe in walking all roads before you can truly see the path in front of you, and with my experiences from reading the bible and being baptised, to daring any and all spirits to possess me while sitting around a pentagram, I've not felt or seen any power beyond my own will. Ministers and cultists alike do have one common bond, however, and that is to tell you that if you 'seek then you shall find'. But if that was true, you would think I would have found my answers a long time ago. Ministers told me that my faith was not strong enough, and therefore wasn't truly of god. Cultists told me that I couldn't conjure satan because my spirit was of purity in god, and that anyone with faith would find it impossible to do such things. I'm sorry if it sounded to me as though both sides were making excuses, but which one was it; was I too good or too evil? I think people are afraid of the possibility of their not being anything after life, and I am not saying that is the primary reason for all forms of worship, but I was willing to go the distance to find out if their was anything after death to the extent of risking my own soul, because even eternal pain would be better than eternal nothingness. If I could find any form of entity that was of supernatural quality, trust me, I would be a believer. I'm not saying that it may not happen at some point in my life, but as of right now, the only thing I really fear isn't an angel or demon, but instead mankind, and their need to wreak chaos in the name of being proven right.

Understand that I have nothing against Christianity, but just as there are extremists of any religion (including satanic worship), the Christians aren't above such acts. The Romans had a right to believe as they wished, but that still didn't stop the slaughter of countless men, women, and children in the name of Christ, which eventually helped lead to the fall of an entire empire. And then there were the Seljuk Turks that cut off Christian access to Jerusalem after the fall of the Byzantine empire in 1071. Instead of letting vengeance be in the hands of god, the Christians decided to take it into their own hands and slaughter everyone that stood in their way of Jerusalem, condemning their beliefs as 'heretic'. The holy wars known as the Crusades were brutal on both sides, don't get me wrong, but for both parties to act in anger only lead to create hatred and death.

There are many good Christian people who follow the religion in a manner of light, such as you and Singelli, and even my own mom. There are those who use the power of good in the name of evil, and believe it or not, there are people who manipulate evil in hopes of doing good. At the end of the day, I don't think the power of good or evil exists on its own, as they seem to be too borderline interchangeable. Instead, I think it relies on the person, and whether they choose to create chaos or unity with the power and wisdom they have obtained throughout life.

BluemageKyle : There are extreme cases where such acts have occurred in satanic cults, but I've heard countless times, that unlike god, the devil would be more than willing to do anything in its power to get ahold of you. That being said, I never took my satanic rituals to any of those extremes, because satan would be happy to get his hands on you regardless of sacrifices or rituals, just in the name of keeping you from god.


Although my reasons were purely experimental, they also were not because I support evil. I'm just one of those people that can't accept something without reason, and I was willing to go where most people would fear to go to obtain that reason, even if it meant damning myself for eternity. I don't claim to know everything, but I believe in walking all roads before you can truly see the path in front of you, and with my experiences from reading the bible and being baptised, to daring any and all spirits to possess me while sitting around a pentagram, I've not felt or seen any power beyond my own will. Ministers and cultists alike do have one common bond, however, and that is to tell you that if you 'seek then you shall find'. But if that was true, you would think I would have found my answers a long time ago. Ministers told me that my faith was not strong enough, and therefore wasn't truly of god. Cultists told me that I couldn't conjure satan because my spirit was of purity in god, and that anyone with faith would find it impossible to do such things. I'm sorry if it sounded to me as though both sides were making excuses, but which one was it; was I too good or too evil? I think people are afraid of the possibility of their not being anything after life, and I am not saying that is the primary reason for all forms of worship, but I was willing to go the distance to find out if their was anything after death to the extent of risking my own soul, because even eternal pain would be better than eternal nothingness. If I could find any form of entity that was of supernatural quality, trust me, I would be a believer. I'm not saying that it may not happen at some point in my life, but as of right now, the only thing I really fear isn't an angel or demon, but instead mankind, and their need to wreak chaos in the name of being proven right.

Understand that I have nothing against Christianity, but just as there are extremists of any religion (including satanic worship), the Christians aren't above such acts. The Romans had a right to believe as they wished, but that still didn't stop the slaughter of countless men, women, and children in the name of Christ, which eventually helped lead to the fall of an entire empire. And then there were the Seljuk Turks that cut off Christian access to Jerusalem after the fall of the Byzantine empire in 1071. Instead of letting vengeance be in the hands of god, the Christians decided to take it into their own hands and slaughter everyone that stood in their way of Jerusalem, condemning their beliefs as 'heretic'. The holy wars known as the Crusades were brutal on both sides, don't get me wrong, but for both parties to act in anger only lead to create hatred and death.

There are many good Christian people who follow the religion in a manner of light, such as you and Singelli, and even my own mom. There are those who use the power of good in the name of evil, and believe it or not, there are people who manipulate evil in hopes of doing good. At the end of the day, I don't think the power of good or evil exists on its own, as they seem to be too borderline interchangeable. Instead, I think it relies on the person, and whether they choose to create chaos or unity with the power and wisdom they have obtained throughout life.
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GuardianZack : I understand how you felt not agreeing until there was proof or a reason, I'm like that at times. I took me awhile to fully believe in God until I resumed my schedule of going to church on Wednesday and Sunday. 
GuardianZack : I understand how you felt not agreeing until there was proof or a reason, I'm like that at times. I took me awhile to fully believe in God until I resumed my schedule of going to church on Wednesday and Sunday. 
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BluemageKyle : I am all for proof and reason, but always make sure that what you are feeling is real, and not just what you want to feel. That has always been my discrepancy with faith; you can feel the presence of something all day, but there is still no way to physically identify the source. I don't expect you to agree with me, nor do I expect to understand what you have been through to come to the conclusions that you have, but the fact that you can understand me and not judge me based on my choices, is proof that we both fight for the cause of good, regardless of what team we are on.
BluemageKyle : I am all for proof and reason, but always make sure that what you are feeling is real, and not just what you want to feel. That has always been my discrepancy with faith; you can feel the presence of something all day, but there is still no way to physically identify the source. I don't expect you to agree with me, nor do I expect to understand what you have been through to come to the conclusions that you have, but the fact that you can understand me and not judge me based on my choices, is proof that we both fight for the cause of good, regardless of what team we are on.
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What you are calling demons are most likely other humans energy. Humans are energy balls, some have good energy and some have bad energy. Mix the wrong energy together and you are possessed, not so much by a demon but by other peoples energy. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Stand around strangers and you will get certain vibes off of people which can change the way you think and function.

Say someone is yelling next to you. Not only will that disrupt your energy field your heart rate will start jumping, your mind will start thinking differently and you will become temporarily possessed. The same kind of possessions can happen other ways for instance a girl has a crush on you and tells you... that is another form of possession dealing with lust and most likely deception, two key traits of demons but that does not make it a full blown demon.

There are too many outside influences that can change people. Money, music, movies, places and especially other people not to mention mental disorders and anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medicines.

Demonic possessions are probably a very rare thing the ones that involve exorcists, I think its more of people turning into demons from other peoples negative energy mixed in with their own. Most people are probably not possessed by demon spirits living in some other dimension... they become one on their own free will by letting the negative or positive outside influences hijack their minds.

There are places though that have demonic attachments to them no doubt. People who actually get possessed probably won't remember what happens. If you are awake and know what is going on then you are probably possessed by your own free will and not a demon.
What you are calling demons are most likely other humans energy. Humans are energy balls, some have good energy and some have bad energy. Mix the wrong energy together and you are possessed, not so much by a demon but by other peoples energy. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Stand around strangers and you will get certain vibes off of people which can change the way you think and function.

Say someone is yelling next to you. Not only will that disrupt your energy field your heart rate will start jumping, your mind will start thinking differently and you will become temporarily possessed. The same kind of possessions can happen other ways for instance a girl has a crush on you and tells you... that is another form of possession dealing with lust and most likely deception, two key traits of demons but that does not make it a full blown demon.

There are too many outside influences that can change people. Money, music, movies, places and especially other people not to mention mental disorders and anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medicines.

Demonic possessions are probably a very rare thing the ones that involve exorcists, I think its more of people turning into demons from other peoples negative energy mixed in with their own. Most people are probably not possessed by demon spirits living in some other dimension... they become one on their own free will by letting the negative or positive outside influences hijack their minds.

There are places though that have demonic attachments to them no doubt. People who actually get possessed probably won't remember what happens. If you are awake and know what is going on then you are probably possessed by your own free will and not a demon.
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Im a Muslim & i've seen many possession, Demons have religions like us, they're similar to us but they're made of fire, you dont need to believe me.
Im a Muslim & i've seen many possession, Demons have religions like us, they're similar to us but they're made of fire, you dont need to believe me.
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Awww... I was going to look into it and let you know what I find in the Bible about it.  

It's alright though, since I was going to make it one of my future devotionals.  When I get around to it I'll link you to the appropriate devotional, alright?  I have a list of topics I want to write on, and I'm not doing them in any particular order. However God leads me is how I will complete them, so I can't give you a time period.
Awww... I was going to look into it and let you know what I find in the Bible about it.  

It's alright though, since I was going to make it one of my future devotionals.  When I get around to it I'll link you to the appropriate devotional, alright?  I have a list of topics I want to write on, and I'm not doing them in any particular order. However God leads me is how I will complete them, so I can't give you a time period.
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we all are possessed by a demon: sin
we all are possessed by a demon: sin
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If we look at examples in the Bible, there isn't really a set of characteristics that show that what has to happen to show evidence of a demonic possession. There are some that are more prominent than others, like controlling the body, different voice, do things that only spirits would be able to do, etc. But I don't think there is a limit of what could show that someone is demon possessed
If we look at examples in the Bible, there isn't really a set of characteristics that show that what has to happen to show evidence of a demonic possession. There are some that are more prominent than others, like controlling the body, different voice, do things that only spirits would be able to do, etc. But I don't think there is a limit of what could show that someone is demon possessed
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In the old days there was many ways to determind this. Like dunking. If you drowned,you was not possesed by the devil and if you did not, you were not then.

Nowadays these are belived to be mental illnesses. Though Im not saying psychiatry is not at fault in these things since dunking in cold water was used as therapy the last century also and so was cutting parts of your brains.

But whatever works, I suppouse.

In the old days there was many ways to determind this. Like dunking. If you drowned,you was not possesed by the devil and if you did not, you were not then.

Nowadays these are belived to be mental illnesses. Though Im not saying psychiatry is not at fault in these things since dunking in cold water was used as therapy the last century also and so was cutting parts of your brains.

But whatever works, I suppouse.

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If they turn their head 180 degrees, are green and start vomiting- yeah. DEMON HUNTING TIME.



On a more serious note, don't try and test if your 2 year old baby sister is a demon. Panic over demons has caused more death than demons actually ever have. (Which is zero) Don't believe me?


Let's take something from our good old friend, Medieval History!


To find out a demon, you were put in a deep pool of water. If you floated back up, you were killed- because the water rejected you, and you were a demon. If you sunk below, you weren't a demon, but died because you'd drown. Jolly good stuff, I must say!
If they turn their head 180 degrees, are green and start vomiting- yeah. DEMON HUNTING TIME.



On a more serious note, don't try and test if your 2 year old baby sister is a demon. Panic over demons has caused more death than demons actually ever have. (Which is zero) Don't believe me?


Let's take something from our good old friend, Medieval History!


To find out a demon, you were put in a deep pool of water. If you floated back up, you were killed- because the water rejected you, and you were a demon. If you sunk below, you weren't a demon, but died because you'd drown. Jolly good stuff, I must say!
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