You may want to define your terms before getting into this debate:

There is a difference between gay and gay sexual behavior.

I would define gay as those of same sex attraction. Right now a crucial discussion is whether a Christian could be gay (attracted to the same sex), which I think it can be possible. But if you were to talk about gay sexual behavior, that is definitely an oxymoron if a Christian were to practice that.

Someone who is an alumnus from my school made a blogsite about the discussions about being a gay Christian and the struggles that comes along with it. There have been some healthy discussions on there and I highly recommend looking into it. I think that the attitude and the mindset that this person has in his struggle of same sex attraction shows how a Christian thinks. He puts his relationship with God to be higher than any relationship, attraction, or oppression and that God' love is a beautiful thing and He's glorified through our obedience. This is a good example why I think those who are "proud" and practice homosexuality can't be called Christians, because of a low view and low understanding about God and sin, neither do they have the thinking of a Christian, which shows through their actions and their interests, which shows what type of fruit they are revealing: fruit of someone who is born again, or fruit of someone who remains in their sin and rebel against God.

http://gaysubtlety.wordpress.com/ (Check the first post before the rest)

christianity is hypocritical.


Anyone that denys there sexuality for god is an idiot.
There, i said it.
You are who are, dont deny it. Youre only lying to yourself. You may profess to have abandoned that 'choice' but youre still gay. Whats so bad about that.

Intriguing title. I firmly believe that it's ok to be A Christian and yet also be gay or lesbian. If God wanted to send a person to Hell for loving another one of His creation, that's awful messed up isn't it?

The topic is a delicate one that requires an understanding of what the Bible says if you want a Christian's perspective. You should firstly understand that Adam and Eve were created to God's likeness and then they sinned against him by disobeying his command to not eat the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Once they did so they introduced sin into humanity.

Sure, you can have homosexual attractions and still have Christian faith, it's the act of homosexuality which God forbids. In fact, if you even have homosexual thoughts, I believe that is sin to God because your entertaining the idea of sin, but with faith in Christ sin can be overcome.

This is in no way hypocritical, what God forbids is sin - no matter who you are, we were born sinners - which is why we are in need of the salvation from Christ. Now if you are a Christian who willingly practices homosexuality, that is hypocritical.

What gets me in the title is that it implies that homosexuality and Christianity is specifically a big contradiction. I am a Christian who does not believe homosexuality is a sin, but that is besides the point. Where in the Bible does it say that homosexuality is a greater sin than any listed in the 10 commandments. EVERY Christian has broken some commandments more than their fair share of times. So why is wouldn't this thread be called "Christians who break commandments? Now there is a contradiction"? I see this as just another example of saying homosexuals are greater sinners than the rest of us just because they decided to be the way they were made. God made homosexuals too, so why are they singled out for that?

Well, homosexuality in my understanding of scripture is wrong no matter how you look at it. The key here is that just because we are Christians doesn't mean we don't sin. It just means the eternal penalty for it is lifted by the blood of Jesus Christ. It may be possible for a christian to be homosexual, I'm not sure. But, that doesn't make it right. Not changing and maintaining the same old patterns without willingness to change at least in my experience, is a hindrance to ones relationship with God. In fact for some, it might mean they were never serious Christians to begin with.

I'm perfectly alright with homosexual Christians. I feel sympathy for them though because their own religion hates them. Shoot, their own religion says to kill them. -shakes head-

tRIUNE, I agree with you totally and completely.  I'd say more, but I'm terribly busy this week and the next.  So though I don't have much to ADD, I thought I'd just offer my two little cents.

Ok so what you have to examine when you talk about homosexuality in the bible are several areas and what they really say.

1,Many Christians say that the bible states that for a man to lay with another man as he lay with a woman is abomination. Well first lets remember that abomination was many times mistranslated from Hebrew and has a much different meaning than that of its definition today. On top of that there is a tremendously long list of things which are listed along with homosexuality as being abomination or a great sin. Things such as wearing two different types of fabric.LEV:19 “You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind.vYou shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.Also following the bible it says that people who masturbate or have sex for purposes other that to get a woman pregnant was punishable by death Genesis 38:9 But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother’s wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. 10 And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. Those are just two examples of things the bible also says should happen so if you have ever masturbated or had sex and used birth control (weather the person was your wife of not) you have committed a crime punishable by death. Heck all homosexuals got was being labeled "quote" abominations which was more used as a term meaning unclean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abomination_(Bible)
. Well my girlfriend used to clean rooms after pride weekend and while gay sex can be kinda dirty that's about all it is and so I will be the first gay you all can call an abomination and bear it proudly right after every Christian who has ever masturbated or used birth control are sentenced to death and all people who wear 2 kinds of fabrics in there clothes are called out and further clothing like it is banned LOL. People are just people guys there good ones and bad ones don't worry about label's or BS talk to them find out who they are if you like them cool if not move on don't bother other peoples lives and don't tolerate others bothering yours. Lives to short to be angry and upset and people for who they are and for something they cant change. No one can tell anyone else what there capable of changing. So love people for who they are no matter who they are and maybe you will get closer to that Jesus fellow, something tells me from what I know about them he will respect those who fill there lives with love rather than those who fill there lives with anger hate and prejudice. But live your life however you want me and my friends and my gorgeous girlfriend will to weather in the bedroom or out and about. 

"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. (Galatians 5:18)"

But then again it said gays "shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

But wait... what if you are born a hermaphrodite or turned into a tranny?

The bible never said no man should stick his sausage in another man like he would with a woman. So it sounds like the bible is saying gay sex with another man is an ok thing to do just as long as you are not sleeping with one.

I am not gay and never will be, but I don't think that gay people should be made fun of. They are people just like us.

I don’t have a problem with people who are gay. As far as I’m concern people should be able to be with and marry who they want. I am not deeply religious but I do believe in God. I don’t like how there are some who will use religion to spread hate yet one of the main things God says that I take very seriously is judge not lest ye be judged. I commented on something similar to this and I said my philosophy and what I try to live my life by kind of fits my feelings. It fits here as well. Who is anyone to tell anyone else how to live?

There are worse things in the world. There are wars where people kill other people, there are people who kill people every day and not just under the guides of war. To me no matter how you slice it if you take a life that’s a sin, I don’t know how some can be so firm in their stance against gays but not so firm on something like that. I once heard a pastor say that anyone can be forgiven for anything and then said that even Adolph Hitler could have gone to heaven. I think it all boils down to interpretation and how one lives their life. I just try not to judge anyone, admit my faults and try not to repeat my mistakes. I think realistically that’s all you can try to do in life. I just wish as a society that we could all be nicer, more sensitive, compassionate, and more kind to one another. I think that would make the world a much better place. Least that’s how I feel about it.