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Would you believe a liar....

 
I would believe him!
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Never actually thought about this one. It does pose a good question. So, would you, or not?



Never actually thought about this one. It does pose a good question. So, would you, or not?

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Yes I would, because no liars lie all the time. Now, if he said "I always tell a lie," that would be a different case, because it then becomes a paradox. Also, I love the Philosoraptor, here's a related one:

Yes I would, because no liars lie all the time. Now, if he said "I always tell a lie," that would be a different case, because it then becomes a paradox. Also, I love the Philosoraptor, here's a related one:



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Lazlo Falconi : Well, Pinnocchio's nose grows when he lies, but shrinks back when he tells the truth. What would probably happen is that his nose would grow because as long as it doesn't, he lied. But as soon as his nose grows, he has told the truth, so his nose would immediately shrink back. Either that or his nose would grow a fist and punch him him in the face for making him have to put up with crap like that.
Lazlo Falconi : Well, Pinnocchio's nose grows when he lies, but shrinks back when he tells the truth. What would probably happen is that his nose would grow because as long as it doesn't, he lied. But as soon as his nose grows, he has told the truth, so his nose would immediately shrink back. Either that or his nose would grow a fist and punch him him in the face for making him have to put up with crap like that.

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rcarter2 : Well okay then, tough guy. What do you think of this one?



It's a little bit more of a quandary, don't you think? Wrap your head around that one!
rcarter2 : Well okay then, tough guy. What do you think of this one?



It's a little bit more of a quandary, don't you think? Wrap your head around that one!

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Lazlo Falconi : Probably because the pen has the power of both actions and words. The pen's sole purpose is to create words, which is an action in itself. The sword, on the other hand, pretty much is an object of action. Technically, you can cut words into things, but a pen does a better job.
Lazlo Falconi : Probably because the pen has the power of both actions and words. The pen's sole purpose is to create words, which is an action in itself. The sword, on the other hand, pretty much is an object of action. Technically, you can cut words into things, but a pen does a better job.

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Lazlo Falconi : A different representation-


Lazlo Falconi : A different representation-




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STOP WITH THE OFF-TOPIC.

I would not believe on one... For some reason they are called liars, if they lie about anything... Why they would not lie about this? 
STOP WITH THE OFF-TOPIC.

I would not believe on one... For some reason they are called liars, if they lie about anything... Why they would not lie about this? 


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The proper answer would be to remain skeptical because the possibility of a logical paradox. Therefore I would neither believe a liar nor disbelieve him until I feel I know what is truth or not. That's right, folks, I'm using logic in here!
The proper answer would be to remain skeptical because the possibility of a logical paradox. Therefore I would neither believe a liar nor disbelieve him until I feel I know what is truth or not. That's right, folks, I'm using logic in here!

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Wait a minute..
If they honestly say that they are a liar...
Then wouldn't that make the Liar...
An Honest Person? :O


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Wait a minute..
If they honestly say that they are a liar...
Then wouldn't that make the Liar...
An Honest Person? :O


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Waaaait, wait. So if a liar admitted he was a liar, he would be speaking the truth, but since he is a liar you can't really believe what he is saying even if it really is the truth so then he is still a liar to you but the truth is to himself making him not a liar so he isn't a liar but a liar to you.



... My brain hurts from this. But short answer, I don't think I would believe him.
Waaaait, wait. So if a liar admitted he was a liar, he would be speaking the truth, but since he is a liar you can't really believe what he is saying even if it really is the truth so then he is still a liar to you but the truth is to himself making him not a liar so he isn't a liar but a liar to you.



... My brain hurts from this. But short answer, I don't think I would believe him.

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I might believe him but I'll have my doubts about what he's saying





I might believe him but I'll have my doubts about what he's saying

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scootheman : He's an honest liar!

I would be skeptical unless I knew the person was a liar.

Not everything a liar says is a lie

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scootheman : He's an honest liar!

I would be skeptical unless I knew the person was a liar.

Not everything a liar says is a lie

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I think I would get to know the person more, to get a better track record of his lying, and get an opinion of his general honesty before making any assessment of his character.


And then not talk to him much if he wasn't a very cool person.
I think I would get to know the person more, to get a better track record of his lying, and get an opinion of his general honesty before making any assessment of his character.


And then not talk to him much if he wasn't a very cool person.

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I forgot to answer the question. I would not believe a a person who admits that they are a liar. It doesn't really create a logic paradox unless you believe that a liar NEVER tells the truth. I know what the philosophical point of that little question is, but I prefer to take it in the realistic sense. Not every single thing that even a pathological liar says can be false .They have to say things that are true at some point. So if they admitted that they are a liar, I would just take that as the occasional truthful thing that they said. I will believe that they are a liar, so I will decide to not believe in the other things that they say. 
I forgot to answer the question. I would not believe a a person who admits that they are a liar. It doesn't really create a logic paradox unless you believe that a liar NEVER tells the truth. I know what the philosophical point of that little question is, but I prefer to take it in the realistic sense. Not every single thing that even a pathological liar says can be false .They have to say things that are true at some point. So if they admitted that they are a liar, I would just take that as the occasional truthful thing that they said. I will believe that they are a liar, so I will decide to not believe in the other things that they say. 

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It depends on how good the person is at lying.   If he is good at it then you might accidentally trust him/her.  If you can tell if they are lying then it's easy to not trust them.  I know it's hard it even hurts my head to straighten it all out.
It depends on how good the person is at lying.   If he is good at it then you might accidentally trust him/her.  If you can tell if they are lying then it's easy to not trust them.  I know it's hard it even hurts my head to straighten it all out.

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I think I'd believe a liar if he told me he was a liar, but I wouldn't believe anything else he said. I like to look at the insightful words of Jack Sparrow when referring to liars:

"A dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest."
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I think I'd believe a liar if he told me he was a liar, but I wouldn't believe anything else he said. I like to look at the insightful words of Jack Sparrow when referring to liars:

"A dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest."

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