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Is God,Jesus,and the Holy Spirit three diffrent entities? are they the same spirit or being?
Is God,Jesus,and the Holy Spirit three diffrent entities? are they the same spirit or being?
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they are both, They are 3 beings yet one being, all at the same time. It is a bit hard to understand.
they are both, They are 3 beings yet one being, all at the same time. It is a bit hard to understand.
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I think they are 3 completely different entities. God sent Jesus to earth, when he died he became the holy spirit. That's how I see it I really do not believe though that Jesus IS god, I thought he was the son of god? Aww I don't know.... I don't follow religion much But thats my guess.
I think they are 3 completely different entities. God sent Jesus to earth, when he died he became the holy spirit. That's how I see it I really do not believe though that Jesus IS god, I thought he was the son of god? Aww I don't know.... I don't follow religion much But thats my guess.
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I believe there are 3 totally separate entities. Otherwise how do moments like Jesus' baptism or the transfiguration make any sense?

And how would Jesus be both his father and his son. Talk about a Jerry Springer episode there.
I believe there are 3 totally separate entities. Otherwise how do moments like Jesus' baptism or the transfiguration make any sense?

And how would Jesus be both his father and his son. Talk about a Jerry Springer episode there.
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Jesus has to be the son of God. Jesus was mortal like any other man which means he could die like the rest of us. God doesn't have the need or power to transform into a human, humans are his creation so it wouldn't make much since if he turned into one just to start a religion. That is why he made Jesus so he could do it for him. This would allow God to remain in heaven and not go on a 20+ year vacation.

I think there are many misinterpretations in the whole thing though...

Jesus was not the father (until after he died and christians looked at him as one), he was the son and holy spirit of god (meaning he was not god but apart of gods creation).

God = Father
Jesus = Son
As for the holy spirit... all of us are the holy spirit, when we die our spirits belong to God.

That is definitely 3 different entities right there. Doesn't make much sense the other way around cause I don't think heaven could exist 20+ years without God but you never know. I just think though that the trinity is like a trick mirror. That's just my opinion of it all...
Jesus has to be the son of God. Jesus was mortal like any other man which means he could die like the rest of us. God doesn't have the need or power to transform into a human, humans are his creation so it wouldn't make much since if he turned into one just to start a religion. That is why he made Jesus so he could do it for him. This would allow God to remain in heaven and not go on a 20+ year vacation.

I think there are many misinterpretations in the whole thing though...

Jesus was not the father (until after he died and christians looked at him as one), he was the son and holy spirit of god (meaning he was not god but apart of gods creation).

God = Father
Jesus = Son
As for the holy spirit... all of us are the holy spirit, when we die our spirits belong to God.

That is definitely 3 different entities right there. Doesn't make much sense the other way around cause I don't think heaven could exist 20+ years without God but you never know. I just think though that the trinity is like a trick mirror. That's just my opinion of it all...
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I believe they are 3 separate entities, otherwise why would Jesus pray? What's the point of praying to yourself and asking forgiveness for the world's sins, couldn't you just make it happen?

It can be a bit confusing at times, since Jesus is the God of the old testament. In the old testament, Jesus was the one who spoke with man on most occasions but would still call himself God, since he was doing God's will and acting through God, and they are so closely of the same intent that Jesus could talk with us as God.

I believe the holy spirit is an individual entity, but had to give up having a spiritual body like we had before we came to earth, in order to dwell in and comfort all of us here on earth at once. If he had a body, he'd be confined to it and couldn't be ubiquitous as he is. One day he will get a spiritual body again, and then a physical body like we have, and then a perfect body of body and spirit like we will have, and like God, Jesus, and any resurrected prophets have.
I believe they are 3 separate entities, otherwise why would Jesus pray? What's the point of praying to yourself and asking forgiveness for the world's sins, couldn't you just make it happen?

It can be a bit confusing at times, since Jesus is the God of the old testament. In the old testament, Jesus was the one who spoke with man on most occasions but would still call himself God, since he was doing God's will and acting through God, and they are so closely of the same intent that Jesus could talk with us as God.

I believe the holy spirit is an individual entity, but had to give up having a spiritual body like we had before we came to earth, in order to dwell in and comfort all of us here on earth at once. If he had a body, he'd be confined to it and couldn't be ubiquitous as he is. One day he will get a spiritual body again, and then a physical body like we have, and then a perfect body of body and spirit like we will have, and like God, Jesus, and any resurrected prophets have.
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If we're talking biblical God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in the bible, than they are all one as I believe it to be so. Jesus said outright "I and the Father are one". The holy spirit is also referred as God's spirit and Jesus' spirit.
If we're talking biblical God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in the bible, than they are all one as I believe it to be so. Jesus said outright "I and the Father are one". The holy spirit is also referred as God's spirit and Jesus' spirit.
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They are three entities as I mentioned before but when you die you become one with god. How is that possible? Look at my example below:

If McDonalds (god) has fries (father), big mac (son), and soda (holy spirit).... you can consider them as 1 mean when your going out to eat. But when you actually are there to order, you think of them as 3 entities but they are all apart of McDonalds (god) if you look at the big picture. That is exactly how it works
They are three entities as I mentioned before but when you die you become one with god. How is that possible? Look at my example below:

If McDonalds (god) has fries (father), big mac (son), and soda (holy spirit).... you can consider them as 1 mean when your going out to eat. But when you actually are there to order, you think of them as 3 entities but they are all apart of McDonalds (god) if you look at the big picture. That is exactly how it works
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They are all individual and separate entities, which is referred to as the Trinity.
They are all individual and separate entities, which is referred to as the Trinity.
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Biblical Jesus and God are one. And If we're talking the bible, we are not God. Nor do we become God. And they are all one.
Biblical Jesus and God are one. And If we're talking the bible, we are not God. Nor do we become God. And they are all one.
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Originally posted by Hoochman
Biblical Jesus and God are one. And If we're talking the bible, we are not God. Nor do we become God. And they are all one.


so when Jesus was baptized and God spoke from heaven and the holy spirit descended as a dove they were all "one"?

Gotta love that logic
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Biblical Jesus and God are one. And If we're talking the bible, we are not God. Nor do we become God. And they are all one.


so when Jesus was baptized and God spoke from heaven and the holy spirit descended as a dove they were all "one"?

Gotta love that logic
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God and the Holy Spirit are the exact same, Jesus is the son of God.
God and the Holy Spirit are the exact same, Jesus is the son of God.
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God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three completely different entities in one (kindof like body parts make up a human being). Jesus is God sent down to earth. God or The Father is what God is basically represented by, this is the father figuer to Jesus (since Mary became the Mother of God when she concieved Jesus). And the Holy Spirit being the unseen guidence of God in the world. The Father, The Son (being Jesus), and the Holy Spirit all make up one entity being God.
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three completely different entities in one (kindof like body parts make up a human being). Jesus is God sent down to earth. God or The Father is what God is basically represented by, this is the father figuer to Jesus (since Mary became the Mother of God when she concieved Jesus). And the Holy Spirit being the unseen guidence of God in the world. The Father, The Son (being Jesus), and the Holy Spirit all make up one entity being God.
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the answer is yes and no, they are three different people, but the same person. a way to explain it is to take three flavors of jello, divide a bowl into thirds and put the jello in it, the jello is all in 1 bowl but they are different flavors, something like that
the answer is yes and no, they are three different people, but the same person. a way to explain it is to take three flavors of jello, divide a bowl into thirds and put the jello in it, the jello is all in 1 bowl but they are different flavors, something like that
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Yes Geeo they are one. Another good way to describe it would be 3 who's 1 what. They are 3 persons in 1 essence. Rather hard it is to understand or even explain it.
Yes Geeo they are one. Another good way to describe it would be 3 who's 1 what. They are 3 persons in 1 essence. Rather hard it is to understand or even explain it.
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Everyone know what H20 is right? it is Water and it has 3 diffrent shapes/forms. It is liquid form, steam form and ice form. most people know this stuff.

instead off liquid form lets say the form is God and the steam form is the Holy spirit and the ice form is Jesus.

it is 3 diffrent shapes or forms but they are still the same thing.

Hope you get what im meaning^^.
Everyone know what H20 is right? it is Water and it has 3 diffrent shapes/forms. It is liquid form, steam form and ice form. most people know this stuff.

instead off liquid form lets say the form is God and the steam form is the Holy spirit and the ice form is Jesus.

it is 3 diffrent shapes or forms but they are still the same thing.

Hope you get what im meaning^^.
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sharkshadow : This is not the correct understanding of the trinity. I made this mistake before.

"instead off liquid form lets say the form is God and the steam form is the Holy spirit and the ice form is Jesus. it is 3 different shapes or forms but they are still the same thing." --sharkshadow

This is not right because God does not turn into different forms. Father, Son and Holy Spirit exist as 3 separate persons, yet they are all God himself. Examples are like Jesus' baptism, where the Father spoke to the crowd and Jesus as His Son, and also at the crucifixion, where Jesus cries out to the Father.

This is actually a heresy called modalism, and it has been deemed heresy in church history. This is the belief that God is in different "modes" rather than 3 separate persons in one. Instead of saying that God is three persons in one, it is say that He is one person changing to a different person.

http://www.carm.org/modalism
sharkshadow : This is not the correct understanding of the trinity. I made this mistake before.

"instead off liquid form lets say the form is God and the steam form is the Holy spirit and the ice form is Jesus. it is 3 different shapes or forms but they are still the same thing." --sharkshadow

This is not right because God does not turn into different forms. Father, Son and Holy Spirit exist as 3 separate persons, yet they are all God himself. Examples are like Jesus' baptism, where the Father spoke to the crowd and Jesus as His Son, and also at the crucifixion, where Jesus cries out to the Father.

This is actually a heresy called modalism, and it has been deemed heresy in church history. This is the belief that God is in different "modes" rather than 3 separate persons in one. Instead of saying that God is three persons in one, it is say that He is one person changing to a different person.

http://www.carm.org/modalism
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Yes and no. Jesus was god on earth but also his son.The Holy Spirit is what God uses to guide us.
Yes and no. Jesus was god on earth but also his son.The Holy Spirit is what God uses to guide us.
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The tricky part is due to our limited human understanding, just when you think you've explained it right, there's still something wrong, something not actually like the trinity.
My belief is that they are three people that make up one entity... the best (although still flawed) way I can think to explain it would be if someone with whatever that multiple-personality disorder thing is called had three personalities who all were present at the same time... it's still not a perfect explanation, but it's the best my limited mind can come up with.
And yes...
HOLY BUMP BATMAN!
The tricky part is due to our limited human understanding, just when you think you've explained it right, there's still something wrong, something not actually like the trinity.
My belief is that they are three people that make up one entity... the best (although still flawed) way I can think to explain it would be if someone with whatever that multiple-personality disorder thing is called had three personalities who all were present at the same time... it's still not a perfect explanation, but it's the best my limited mind can come up with.
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I agree with bignat. We need to accept that we are too limited to fully understand. I still think there isn't anything wrong with thinking and talking about the concept.
I agree with bignat. We need to accept that we are too limited to fully understand. I still think there isn't anything wrong with thinking and talking about the concept.
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