So I'm curious, what are your opinions on it so far? If you're for it - what is it about it that entices you? 

I'll mention I"m not affected by this at all. I'm in Canada. But watching this unfold is... terrifying. 

Trumpcare? No, he don't. It cuts off needs for poor people who need it most... like myself and many like me.

I don't like it. I think the whole "pre-existing" condition thing is crap. I have multiple back and knee issues. Guess what that means for me? Higher rates than other people, and when it gets worse, and I really need the help, I can't get it. 
While Obama care was crap, and I was not affected by it since I have VA HealthCare, TrumpCare is worse. The VA takes forever to get to get people. I can't even go to the VA while screaming in pain without being accused of being a pill popper. 

The only way the healthcare system in America can get better is if sanctions are inflicted on the healthcare industries: no denying people based off of what's wrong with them. You can only charge a little more, if any (which I don't think should be allowed) for people with pre-exsisting MEDICAL CONDITIONS! Rape is not a medical condition. C-sections are not a medical condition. Cancer is a medical condition. Concussions are a medical condition. 

What I'm trying to say is this, I guess: even though I voted for Trump, this is some straight bullcrap. I shouldn't be punished for my military service, let alone other people be punished FOR BEING HUMAN! Get rid of government ran healthcare, and tell insurance companies they can't charge more for their clients having issues. 

I'm indifferent.

All I care about is I'm not getting penalized for not being able to afford healthcare, which is the logical f***ing thing to do.

Now they just need to combine Obamacare with Trumpcare, and you have something half decent, a system where people can get coverage for a decent enough price if they want it, that doesn't penalize the people who either don't want it or can't afford even the new, lowered price.

Don't get me wrong, Trumpcare sucks for women. But I'm not a woman, so it sucks significantly less for me. I can't wait till we get a better healthcare system (keep dreaming, right?), but I'm just happy that I'll be able to avoid a fine next year, just because I can't afford healthcare.

It sounds downright awful. It´s not hard for me to think that thousands of people will die because they can´t afford the inhumanely high prices, as well as pregnancy cost being more than quadrupled. This is the kind of poor health care that should make people consider leaving the U.S.

obama made the internet die on oct 1st 2006  i can  never forgive him for that. now if trump can fix that. i would be a happy camper...

I'm indifferent. The old healthcare system screwed my family like a $20--...Pretty badly. There needs to be some serious reform to this, or just make a bunch of actually helpful changes to how private healthcare systems work. So pretty much, while Obamacare was two steps backwards, Trumpcare is one step back and one step to the left.

  I myself also live in canada and am glad that we have medicare that pays for a lot of the big expenses because like a lot of other people I can,t afford to have insurance to me everyone deserves to have proper medical care no matter where they live and they should not be penalized for being sick about 16 years ago i had to spend 10 days in a hospital due to a cellulitis outbreak that i had at the time and if it was not for the system we have it,s not very likely i would have been able to afford it to me having insurance of any kind is only good for the people that can afford to pay for it but it does not do any good for anyone else

Trumpcare is bad. If the republicans want to improve on Obama care, they can make it where people can pick and choose what things they want covered so if a man for example doesn't need coverage for gynecological exams then he should be allowed to remove those options and then add them back in if he decides to marry/adopt a girl. I think adding/removing coverage will be popular with everyone as they can choose what they need and don't need with the convenience of adding/removing stuff in if they find that they need said coverage or don't need said coverage later on in life. Basically, it will be outlined like this;

Key=√ means he has coverage for that item No symbol mean he doesn't have coverage for that item

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Please place a checkmark over what items you want coverage for. Leave blank for no coverage and remove the checkmark to remove coverage. You can add/remove coverage anytime you like by returning to this page

John Doe Age 37 Single

Basic coverage √

Gynecological Exams

Pre-existing conditions

Prostate exams √



Key is the same as above

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Jane Doe Age 37 Single

Basic coverage √

Gynecological Exams √

Pre-existing conditions

Prostate exams


You get the gist of where I'm going with this right?

Personally I don't think the government should have ever been allowed to touch Health Insurance. Everything they touch turns to crap, everything! With that being said there should have been a high risk pool set up through each state to insure people with pre existing conditions. This is the way it is with car insurance, if a company won't insure you to drive then the state steps in to insure you. I also want to say to the ones who want pre existing conditions covered but don't think we should be penalized if we don't have insurance, it's very hard to balance out how much all the pre existing conditions cost an insurance company without having a big pool of healthy people buying insurance to. Also lets discuss pre existing conditions for a minute, I'm all for a pre existing condition that a person is burdened with for no reason other than bad luck and genes, but a pre existing condition you have because years of unhealthy eating or activity? How is that anyone's problem but your own? See what a lot of people don't think about is the cost that goes into treating a lot of these conditions, insurance companies aren't charity's, they're for-profit businesses. So you can't expect them to pay out 2 million dollars to a bunch of hospitals to treat pre existing conditions without making enough money to make a profit. There is things that can be fixed to help our health care system but if the past is any indicator the government shouldn't have complete control over it.

UnholyArceus : Care to elaborate? I can find nothing on Obama and the internet from Oct 1, 2006.

Well let's just say for me the net died IMO then and others that I know is all I'm going say.

UnholyArceus : Why bother replying if you're not going to give an even remotely adequate answer? In what ways did it die? How is it Obama's fault at all? Use your words, you're not going to convince anyone of your thoughts otherwise.


I think that this so-called "Trumpcare," or really any healthcare program the Republicans have tried to put in so far, is a disgrace and an insult to anyone who needs healthcare. They do not actually care about people with health issues or people who cannot afford private health insurance. Both Clinton and Sanders have admitted that Obamacare has flaws -- Because it does. But they pledged to improve it and build upon it to fix those flaws, not to get rid of it and turn government healthcare into a joke.

Honestly it really stands on what side of the fence you are politically. Extremism for your party is more prevalent now than I've ever seen before.



Personally, I was against the idea of Obamacare at first. When it was first proposed, my thought was that Health care should be a privilege, nobody should be forced to pay into something they don't need. Since then I've built an understanding as to what it is really doing for people with low income. Its not building any jobs, its not making medicine better or improving the services provided. It doesn't help insurers, it puts them in a dangerous situation where they have to charge lower deductibles even for people with pre-existing conditions. It taxes people who can't afford to pay the health insurance, although I've come to understand this is supposed to make up the deficit for those uninsured. However, its forcing healthy people into paying into the market so that its cheaper for people who couldn't afford it before. Let me explain, I still feel the same way about all the negative things that were there from the beginning. If we can fix the things that are wrong with Obamacare, I think it can honestly make a difference.



However, Trumpcare right off the bat has offered nothing different than what Obamacare is already offering. The first thing he promised, and this is misleading, is that he is going to get rid of the yearly tax for not having his healthcare. This will only make the premiums more expensive. Add on pre-existing clauses (Some are quite... disturbing in nature) is only going to give power back to the insurance providers to charge more on their end. its a win-win for no-one and puts the companies who were charging you so much to begin with, back in power. Its, already more flawed than what Obamacare originally offered, with twice the input from now a global media outrage. Lets face it, we've never seen anything like this before as a country to begin with. Its been almost 100 years since our last socialized reform after the great depression. 



We should make a legitimate effort to fix the flaws that we've already known for some time, its not like we can trash the plans anymore. People are already relying on the health providers, and pulling the plug could cost lives and cause an outrage. Government should've never gotten involved with our healthcare and then defend capitalism. Lets really get that straight, but whats done is done. If its going to work, we need government to go to the big pharmaceutical companies with polices to get rid of the increasing medical costs. For example, people with allergies are born with allergies, the fact that an epi-pen costs over 700 dollars for a single dose... Did I mention that asthma is a pre-existing condition, so even your insurers can charge you more for your plan. Its sickening when you see medical bills get so high and you know where the inflation is coming from. This would've been adequate before Obamacare was put into play, but I digress...



More countries worldwide have already adopted a universal health system. It only makes sense, that if we want to advance our country we should follow step. Our government is spending more money overseas that it does at home for Americans. Unless you count the Million dollars a week for security so Ivanka can live in Trump Tower. (Really though?) If Trump really wants to change minds, he'll need to find a way fix the problems with this country and stop focusing on democratic witch hunts, other countries affair's, and freaking twitter!!! It really has gotten to a point that both parties have gotten so extreme that I can't even vote in confidence. Its just a matter of time before its run through the senate, seeing as there is a republican super majority and this has become the norm in politics these days. Really though, that is all of my thoughts on the matter.