geeogree :

merf : I felt the same way at the time but he was actually much nicer to be around since his return to the server. Or maybe I changed and stopped caring so much. Hard to know....

geeogree : That's good to hear (assuming it's the former). I've pretty much stopped coming on the server as I've just been burned out entirely lol, so I'm not aware of his actions since coming back.

geeogree : December. We unbanned him in December Geeo, so he could have a second chance. Scar is certainly showing us he's not wasting that opportunity and is eternally grateful to be able to play on the server again.

No wait, I typed that wrong. I meant to say, why is he still being bitter over the past when this was meant to clean the slate? He is the only one still bringing it up. Honestly Scar, you're disappointing us.

merf : After much reminiscing on the topic you presented long ago, here is my response.

You have no value investing in any form of regretting your decision, you did what you saw right. I did things I shouldn't of done, and you had every right to do what is best for the server.
Now excuse me for this, but over and over, I try to explain that my shop exploitation actions was intended for good purposes, all you think is "its just for the tower" and that is basic and has a lack of detail. As the specifics for what i planned to feature in the tower ranged from cheap shops to buy stuff from, including more than what normal shops offered and various mini game related things to win valuable prizes as well. Which would benefit players a lot.

and while typing the above, couldn't help but notice you used in response to the notification of my unbanning. Why is it that when I disrespect, you all get to do what you wish in retaliation such as ban. Yet when you disrespect me; "I cannot do absolute S***!" Is that really fair? Apparently not, something that has bugged me on every single server where I've communicated with staff more directly.

It is quite hypocritical, the ways of the staff. Recently I discover Sonic and Fyre have complete disregard for the fact they nearly got banned for grief on a server i frequent, and they cannot act as such on vizzed for obvious reasons, or anywhere they care to visit. Respect is only attained if one and another can communicate with good mind. As I recently see your posts and recall hearing you unleash your rage on a certain was-admin. Is respect really something I can give to you further when perspectives attain a immoral value as priority one? When I communicate with others, I try to not be disrespectful, but when they reach that certain point where I cannot give respect, I see no further value trying to negotiate.

Unfortunately, as a result of the damage dealt, it will not be too easy to acquire a compromise. The choice of approach was most severe and could of been different, but all that has past and cannot be fixed with a simple load state file to before it happened.

I all too well regret my decisions, I acknowledge all their wrongdoings, through dispersed greed, accidental, imminent, selfish, or joke intended actions.

I rather not talk to those who I cannot respect, as its just destiny that strife materializes and the obvious occurs, which is why it took me so long before I decided to finally reply, cause it is only until now, that my resistance to replying, knowing what is to come from the viewing perspectives, finally dissipated and the urges broke free, ready to rant on in the manner to which all who views this will see.

Edit: forgot to mention that though the past has hurt me so, I'm trying hard to cease my bitterness. Sure it may be something that has upset me than other experiences online mc (even when I was treated like crap by a abusive admin on destinycraft, a long dead server), it is not worth clinging on to, yet trying to break free can be really difficult for some things...

ScarTheScarab : I appreciate you taking time to respond to my post. Thank you for thinking it through!

My issue with what you did isn't your reason for it. Noticing that you can exploit the shops is really helpful, if brought to our attention! My issue was that you exploited the shops instead of letting me know. Seeing a $20 bill fall out of someone's pocket and keeping it for yourself is still stealing, and I think the same principle applies here. I honestly didn't see a reason to bring your tower into the mix, but rather was looking solely at your actions (and lack thereof). Your ban was entirely based on exploitation and your reaction to being confronted, and had nothing to do with what you used the mViz for.

As you mention, I did use the emoji when responding to geeo. As I am not staff anymore in any capacity, I am not held to those standards. If the mods of the site felt that I was out of line, then they would be entirely correct to confront me and resolve this in the manner that they thought best. If I was still staff, then rest assured that I would never react in such a blatantly negative way, as I have higher standards for every member of staff than that (including myself). I was very careful to avoid being publicly disrespectful while on the staff team of both the site and server, and will be very careful again if I ever rejoin either team. I apologize for being disrespectful, but that reaction was given with the assumption that you hadn't changed and didn't regret your actions. Geeogree gave me new information, which changed my reaction (see: "That's good to hear (assuming it's the former). I've pretty much stopped coming on the server as I've just been burned out entirely lol, so I'm not aware of his actions since coming back.")

As that shows, I was happy to hear that you had seemingly 'reformed', and stated (albeit unclearly) that my reaction was based on outdated information. Again, I apologize for the fact that I reacted without complete information.

I am not responsible for Fyre and Sonic, and I'm not aware of their actions outside of the Vizzed server nor of their actions on the server since I stepped down.

If you're referring to the admin I believe you're referring to, then you're correct. I was wrong to publicly demean him/her. This was a very long time ago (more than 2 years, actually), and I have since apologized to him/her (and they accepted my apology).

As you mentioned, nothing on the server is ever gone forever. If you're hoping for your tower to be restored, the best thing to do would be to contact Zircron and see if he can get the tower from previous save files for you.

I value that statement, thank you!

I agree completely, which is why I generally have avoided contact with you (ironically enough). The decision to exploit instead of inform (and your reactions afterwards) caused me to lose a lot of respect for you too, and I haven't seen that built back up (again, through lack of contact). I understand exactly what you're saying, and don't take offense to your decision to steer clear of me. Hopefully this reply sheds some light on my perspective, as your reply shed light on your perspective, and we begin to get a clearer picture of both sides of the story.

Again, we agree. The past may be in the past, but it has a nasty way of bringing itself back up again.

merf : indeed this does, and though the chance to get the old tower back is availible, im not gonna get it back, i actually started work on a new one with a expanded claim before the server went down, and oh will it be rough to make. Thankfully geeo gave me more than enough mViz to make it, and I am glad.

I tried to join not too long ago, but was met with an error screen saying that I couldn't connect.

Also, the map no longer works for some reason. Don't know why this is happening. 

DragonSlayer22 : The server has been down for over a month  Davideo needs to fix things I think ask him. The map has not worked a little bit longer than the server being down when it was still up the server was moved it was 1.11.2 and the plugins and worlds were not on the server and david needed to fix them but like I said before david still has to fix it, at least I think I honestly don't know whats up and am trying to type this fast so sorry if this makes no sense 

Sonicolmstead : It's fine. I'll wait until it is back up.

indeed, the server has been down for much too long, over a month now. We so hopefully wait for its return. Then again, its popularity for too long has been low, none are interested in it and its features, I can understand if david cannot accept bringing the server back up considering its history. It seems as if servers these days are all alike, how they function, what they include, and how they are ran. Most often its the typical situation and usually small servers cannot see the light of day in the long run compared to most servers. My hopes for its comeback are ever so thinning, though they are not yet dead.

Davideo7 : Since it's not just me curious still do you have any kind of info what's up with the server I hate to bother you with it but after a month I would like to know something.

Tis a Miracle, after much silence, the servers life force is back in action!

Yay! I can't wait to try it out! =D What is everyone working on building right now? =)