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06-06-16 04:59 AM
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Hello, people of the Vizzed board!
In today's American media, transgender people are at the forefront of public attention. I'm curious on how the people of Vizzed actually view the actions of those who identify as transgender during these times. The transgender community seems to have flown under the radar for a while now and suddenly, laws have been put into effect for the "betterment" of transgender people that have, in fact, brought transgender people back into the spotlight, for better or worse. I'd like to know if the people of Vizzed actually believe that this newfound media attention is in the transgender community's best interest or if you believe it just make things worse. How do you view the new bathroom laws? Do you have certain opinions of transgender people, in general? I'd like to hear some honest feedback, however, I understand that this is a hot button topic. I ask that everyone be respectful of others' opinions on this thread, even if their opinions come in direct conflict with your own. Let this be a safe place to express your opinion. Remember, no flaming please.
Hello, people of the Vizzed board!
In today's American media, transgender people are at the forefront of public attention. I'm curious on how the people of Vizzed actually view the actions of those who identify as transgender during these times. The transgender community seems to have flown under the radar for a while now and suddenly, laws have been put into effect for the "betterment" of transgender people that have, in fact, brought transgender people back into the spotlight, for better or worse. I'd like to know if the people of Vizzed actually believe that this newfound media attention is in the transgender community's best interest or if you believe it just make things worse. How do you view the new bathroom laws? Do you have certain opinions of transgender people, in general? I'd like to hear some honest feedback, however, I understand that this is a hot button topic. I ask that everyone be respectful of others' opinions on this thread, even if their opinions come in direct conflict with your own. Let this be a safe place to express your opinion. Remember, no flaming please.
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Transgender and gender questions have been around forever. Look at old texts, art, and history from the Greek and Roman empires back in the day. They have male/female prostitution, companions and more. It's been around and other countries outside the U.S. seem to be less offended. Our (American) history is one predicated on religious puritanicalism and intolerance. We like our citizens to be Bible-thumping and fall into specific categories.

Call me crazy but the fact that a big percentage of Americans celebrate a man from 2,000 years on another continent is just goofy.

Anyway, I don't care. People can be people and do what they want as long as they're not hurting others. The bathroom bill doesn't bother me because I can't care about what's going on and I trust my wife and kids to make good decisions in bathrooms. I also expect that this bill isn't going to generate more criminal sexual conduct because the folks that would take advantage are already committing crimes. This won't start anything new.

Ultimately, let people do what they want. They're not hurting you if they are a group of guys wearing dresses. So what? I root on the doctors who are getting paid to do surgeries. Good for them getting business.
Transgender and gender questions have been around forever. Look at old texts, art, and history from the Greek and Roman empires back in the day. They have male/female prostitution, companions and more. It's been around and other countries outside the U.S. seem to be less offended. Our (American) history is one predicated on religious puritanicalism and intolerance. We like our citizens to be Bible-thumping and fall into specific categories.

Call me crazy but the fact that a big percentage of Americans celebrate a man from 2,000 years on another continent is just goofy.

Anyway, I don't care. People can be people and do what they want as long as they're not hurting others. The bathroom bill doesn't bother me because I can't care about what's going on and I trust my wife and kids to make good decisions in bathrooms. I also expect that this bill isn't going to generate more criminal sexual conduct because the folks that would take advantage are already committing crimes. This won't start anything new.

Ultimately, let people do what they want. They're not hurting you if they are a group of guys wearing dresses. So what? I root on the doctors who are getting paid to do surgeries. Good for them getting business.
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Transgender people should be left alone. While people should give them more respect and privacy, I believe too much attention might lead to homophobic behavior to spawn. Just as long as they get protection from harm, I'll be truly satisfied. Canada at least is more accepting towards those who are LGBT. Not much point in mentioning that, but I at least think if gay tolerance was amplified and more laws were made to support them, we wouldn't be having this turbulent problem. Thanks for reading, mister. 
Transgender people should be left alone. While people should give them more respect and privacy, I believe too much attention might lead to homophobic behavior to spawn. Just as long as they get protection from harm, I'll be truly satisfied. Canada at least is more accepting towards those who are LGBT. Not much point in mentioning that, but I at least think if gay tolerance was amplified and more laws were made to support them, we wouldn't be having this turbulent problem. Thanks for reading, mister. 
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I am probably going to sound like the grumpy old man on Vizzed. I personally think it is going to make it easier for pervs to go into the opposite gender's bathroom or changing room and all they have to claim is, "I identify with the other gender." It also promotes people who "believe" themselves the opposite gender that they were born or worse,people who want to be "Caitlyns". What is so wrong with being the gender you were born?

Now for those that actually born as hermaphrodites,I could understand the concern or need for discussion about this. They did not ask to be born that way. But think about this,it would cost millions upon millions to either build separate bathrooms for them or generations of training to allow them to use a bathroom or changing room of their choice. As it stands now,we cannot even properly repair our highway infrastructure,having to rely on lash ups or shore ups to delay the inevitable. Same with our railway systems,they are dangerously outdated and damaged and we cannot repair them properly.

I am saying that we have far more pressing matters than worrying about what is frankly,a minority,and needs to be shelved until we get the real work done. I do not think this will go over well here in America,except maybe for California. I just see this causing more issues and enabling perverts to do as they please. Maybe we need a return to the good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female. As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins.
I am probably going to sound like the grumpy old man on Vizzed. I personally think it is going to make it easier for pervs to go into the opposite gender's bathroom or changing room and all they have to claim is, "I identify with the other gender." It also promotes people who "believe" themselves the opposite gender that they were born or worse,people who want to be "Caitlyns". What is so wrong with being the gender you were born?

Now for those that actually born as hermaphrodites,I could understand the concern or need for discussion about this. They did not ask to be born that way. But think about this,it would cost millions upon millions to either build separate bathrooms for them or generations of training to allow them to use a bathroom or changing room of their choice. As it stands now,we cannot even properly repair our highway infrastructure,having to rely on lash ups or shore ups to delay the inevitable. Same with our railway systems,they are dangerously outdated and damaged and we cannot repair them properly.

I am saying that we have far more pressing matters than worrying about what is frankly,a minority,and needs to be shelved until we get the real work done. I do not think this will go over well here in America,except maybe for California. I just see this causing more issues and enabling perverts to do as they please. Maybe we need a return to the good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female. As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins.
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It is merely identity. No one cares about identity, the only thing that matters is fact. Their feelings and beliefs are irrelevant and science rules over it all. Therefore, I do not actively take it into consideration and if they force me to do so, I will react with vast amounts of disrespect.

No one cares how you identify. No one cares how you feel. It's about as relevant as what brand of socks is my favorite.
It is merely identity. No one cares about identity, the only thing that matters is fact. Their feelings and beliefs are irrelevant and science rules over it all. Therefore, I do not actively take it into consideration and if they force me to do so, I will react with vast amounts of disrespect.

No one cares how you identify. No one cares how you feel. It's about as relevant as what brand of socks is my favorite.
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Oldschool777 : You don't know anything about transgender people, do you?
You seem to have an irrational, close minded hate towards people who identify as transgender.
Signaling out every transgender person as a pervert? That's disgusting.
You do realize transgender means more than "I identify with the other gender", right?
"What is so wrong with being the gender you were born?"
Do you know of a little thing called dysphoria?
Feeling that your body does not reflect your true gender can cause severe distress, anxiety, and depression. "Dysphoria" is a feeling of dissatisfaction, anxiety, and restlessness. With gender dysphoria, the discomfort with your male or female body can be so intense that it can interfere with the way you function in normal life, for instance at school or work or during social activities.
"Who want to be "Caitlyns"" I'm not even going to touch on that. If you can't see how that's offensive or wrong, than you are clearly a bigot.

I do agree, however, with the whole "We have far more pressing matters", because really, transgender isn't something to attack.

"Maybe we need a return to the good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female. As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins. "

If you gave me a week I wouldn't be able to signal out all the reasons this is wrong, but here:

"Good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female"
Oh, so you mean the old sexists ways? Sure, cause that's a great idea.

"As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins."
I can sort of agree, but still no.

Really, you're way of thinking is frankly close minded, and bigoted, and actually seems to be fueled by hatred instead of facts or opinion. I don't mean to insult, but is there a way for you to research or discuss these topics without hating on transgender people?
Because honestly, every comment of yours in this topic is disgusting.
Oldschool777 : You don't know anything about transgender people, do you?
You seem to have an irrational, close minded hate towards people who identify as transgender.
Signaling out every transgender person as a pervert? That's disgusting.
You do realize transgender means more than "I identify with the other gender", right?
"What is so wrong with being the gender you were born?"
Do you know of a little thing called dysphoria?
Feeling that your body does not reflect your true gender can cause severe distress, anxiety, and depression. "Dysphoria" is a feeling of dissatisfaction, anxiety, and restlessness. With gender dysphoria, the discomfort with your male or female body can be so intense that it can interfere with the way you function in normal life, for instance at school or work or during social activities.
"Who want to be "Caitlyns"" I'm not even going to touch on that. If you can't see how that's offensive or wrong, than you are clearly a bigot.

I do agree, however, with the whole "We have far more pressing matters", because really, transgender isn't something to attack.

"Maybe we need a return to the good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female. As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins. "

If you gave me a week I wouldn't be able to signal out all the reasons this is wrong, but here:

"Good old fashioned clearly defined roles of male and female"
Oh, so you mean the old sexists ways? Sure, cause that's a great idea.

"As for the genuine hermaphrodites,I think they should be offered a one time offer for gender reassignment. That way everyone wins."
I can sort of agree, but still no.

Really, you're way of thinking is frankly close minded, and bigoted, and actually seems to be fueled by hatred instead of facts or opinion. I don't mean to insult, but is there a way for you to research or discuss these topics without hating on transgender people?
Because honestly, every comment of yours in this topic is disgusting.
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I usually don't get involved or research this type of stuff because it just honestly doesn't apply to me, and I don't find it all that relevant. So this is just purely opinion based on what I do know and feel.

First off, I don't really like the new bathroom bill. I do agree with oldschool on it making it much easier to be a pervert since all you have to do is identify as another gender. No doctors note or anything. As for actual transgenders, I'll just say that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few. If a transgender is in a bathroom that they feel comfortable in, it's still making the other let's say 5 people uncomfortable. I mean, since the transgender knows how it feels like to feel uncomfortable in a bathroom, why would they want to make other people feel the same? And besides... there are family changing rooms with just one bathroom inside it that transgenders can use.

There are also other more pressing matters such as terrorism, what to do with immigration, etc, that it seems silly to concentrate on this. As for my personal opinions on trans-gendered... it is pretty much identity based, and I don't see why it matters that much. Sure, there are sexism towards both sexes, but is it really that important which one you are? So important that you need surgery to "fix" it?

Please note that this is just my personal opinion, and that I'm not necessarily
hating on transgenders or other members of the LGBT. I just don't 100% agree.
I usually don't get involved or research this type of stuff because it just honestly doesn't apply to me, and I don't find it all that relevant. So this is just purely opinion based on what I do know and feel.

First off, I don't really like the new bathroom bill. I do agree with oldschool on it making it much easier to be a pervert since all you have to do is identify as another gender. No doctors note or anything. As for actual transgenders, I'll just say that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few. If a transgender is in a bathroom that they feel comfortable in, it's still making the other let's say 5 people uncomfortable. I mean, since the transgender knows how it feels like to feel uncomfortable in a bathroom, why would they want to make other people feel the same? And besides... there are family changing rooms with just one bathroom inside it that transgenders can use.

There are also other more pressing matters such as terrorism, what to do with immigration, etc, that it seems silly to concentrate on this. As for my personal opinions on trans-gendered... it is pretty much identity based, and I don't see why it matters that much. Sure, there are sexism towards both sexes, but is it really that important which one you are? So important that you need surgery to "fix" it?

Please note that this is just my personal opinion, and that I'm not necessarily
hating on transgenders or other members of the LGBT. I just don't 100% agree.
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maguc : While I do agree with your end statement asking if there were some way he could go about researching before posting, I have to say that the language in your post is a bit harsh and disrespectful. Just like you have posted your opinions, he has posted his. They may come into direct conflict with your own, but I ask that you remain civil with this discussion. I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with what he has said, but it just seemed a bit harsh of a read. If you'd like to debate his opinions, might I suggest posting research to back up your claims rather than calling him names? Responding with great research is a great strategy in winning a debate, after all. And who knows? It might help inform others who read your post.

yoshirulez! : Please be aware that there may or may not be transgender Vizzed members who are viewing this thread. Telling people that their identities are inconsequential and leaving it at that is rude. If you could post research to back up your post, that would be appreciated, but otherwise please refrain from short posts that merely work to alienate.



maguc : While I do agree with your end statement asking if there were some way he could go about researching before posting, I have to say that the language in your post is a bit harsh and disrespectful. Just like you have posted your opinions, he has posted his. They may come into direct conflict with your own, but I ask that you remain civil with this discussion. I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with what he has said, but it just seemed a bit harsh of a read. If you'd like to debate his opinions, might I suggest posting research to back up your claims rather than calling him names? Responding with great research is a great strategy in winning a debate, after all. And who knows? It might help inform others who read your post.

yoshirulez! : Please be aware that there may or may not be transgender Vizzed members who are viewing this thread. Telling people that their identities are inconsequential and leaving it at that is rude. If you could post research to back up your post, that would be appreciated, but otherwise please refrain from short posts that merely work to alienate.



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I have stated my opinions with a warning at the beginning of the post. And if maguc took the time to read my post at the beginning it would make it easier for pervs to claim they are transgender and misuse the laws. Maguc,next time you want to insult me,read the post in its entirety before commenting.

I just think that if we went back to the good old ways,we knew what gender we were and knew how to act. Yes,you had people that dressed in the opposite of their gender,but those were blessedly few and far between compared to today.

Maybe I am intolerant,maybe I am indifferent,but do we really need unisex bathrooms?



I have stated my opinions with a warning at the beginning of the post. And if maguc took the time to read my post at the beginning it would make it easier for pervs to claim they are transgender and misuse the laws. Maguc,next time you want to insult me,read the post in its entirety before commenting.

I just think that if we went back to the good old ways,we knew what gender we were and knew how to act. Yes,you had people that dressed in the opposite of their gender,but those were blessedly few and far between compared to today.

Maybe I am intolerant,maybe I am indifferent,but do we really need unisex bathrooms?



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I feel that some people are taking advantage of new strives toward equality by coming out into the media and demanding new bullcrap which, to be perfectly honest, benefit no one but a minuscule minority of the American public.
Life's not fair. If you think your "gender" should be accommodated by reforming all American public spaces, think again. I understand that you have your problems, but so does everyone else. Quite frankly, I think that infrastructure reform is far more important than building you a new bathroom stall.
I know a few transgender people, and they all try their best to stay under the radar. They don't want this attention, and they'd rather just go along with how they've been going up to this point. They may have been forced to conform to a gender early on, but that doesn't mean hardly anything in reality. People assume that just because new civil rights legislation is being passed, the whole public tolerance system should be completely turned upside down.
I'm sorry, but they're just seeking attention. And they're going about the wrong way to do it. This will only end up hurting their credibility, so that no one will be able to take them seriously when things may actually become a problem for them.
I feel that some people are taking advantage of new strives toward equality by coming out into the media and demanding new bullcrap which, to be perfectly honest, benefit no one but a minuscule minority of the American public.
Life's not fair. If you think your "gender" should be accommodated by reforming all American public spaces, think again. I understand that you have your problems, but so does everyone else. Quite frankly, I think that infrastructure reform is far more important than building you a new bathroom stall.
I know a few transgender people, and they all try their best to stay under the radar. They don't want this attention, and they'd rather just go along with how they've been going up to this point. They may have been forced to conform to a gender early on, but that doesn't mean hardly anything in reality. People assume that just because new civil rights legislation is being passed, the whole public tolerance system should be completely turned upside down.
I'm sorry, but they're just seeking attention. And they're going about the wrong way to do it. This will only end up hurting their credibility, so that no one will be able to take them seriously when things may actually become a problem for them.
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Oldschool777 : Is there a reason not to have unisex bathrooms?

If a pervert really wanted to harass someone in the bathroom, they wouldn't pretend to be transgender or anything, they would just harass them. There's not going to be an increase in bathroom attacks just because of this whole transgender system. Plus, it does go a bit deeper than just saying "I identify with the other gender".

(Also yeah, sorry. I got my personal feelings mixed up with my opinions, so I do apologize if I came as rude and brash, didn't mean it, I'm sorry)
Oldschool777 : Is there a reason not to have unisex bathrooms?

If a pervert really wanted to harass someone in the bathroom, they wouldn't pretend to be transgender or anything, they would just harass them. There's not going to be an increase in bathroom attacks just because of this whole transgender system. Plus, it does go a bit deeper than just saying "I identify with the other gender".

(Also yeah, sorry. I got my personal feelings mixed up with my opinions, so I do apologize if I came as rude and brash, didn't mean it, I'm sorry)
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Other than the obvious answer? I am just saying that pervert would use that loophole that is all. Maybe there is more to the whole transgender thing,but all I am saying if you enforce specific roles early in life,you can prevent or lessen the whole confusion thing. Like I said,I may be old and grumpy and a bit set in my ways.

(Also,I accept your apology.)
Other than the obvious answer? I am just saying that pervert would use that loophole that is all. Maybe there is more to the whole transgender thing,but all I am saying if you enforce specific roles early in life,you can prevent or lessen the whole confusion thing. Like I said,I may be old and grumpy and a bit set in my ways.

(Also,I accept your apology.)
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edent : There is no research needed, it is based off of observation, logical deduction and simple facts.

Some things can't be proven. One situation for instance, is the fact that they -believe- they are something trapped in the wrong body. There's nothing to prove that it's true, it's based solely off of emotions. The same way how there's no way to 100% prove that God exists. It's called Faith, not certainty. As someone who is religious themselves, I should know this.

Emotions are not concrete facts, concrete facts are the only thing that matters, so emotions do not matter.

People don't believe that water is hydrogen and oxygen because they feel that way, they believe it because there's facts supporting it. It's called science.

Long story short... regardless of their identity, their biological structure defines what they really are and there is no way to change that. There's nothing saying anyone has to respect their choice of identity. It's a free world, I don't have to cater to them.

And yes, I know it's rude, but they need to accept the fact that sometimes there isn't a nice way to say something. That, and their own feelings are irrelevant to the facts so I don't care.
edent : There is no research needed, it is based off of observation, logical deduction and simple facts.

Some things can't be proven. One situation for instance, is the fact that they -believe- they are something trapped in the wrong body. There's nothing to prove that it's true, it's based solely off of emotions. The same way how there's no way to 100% prove that God exists. It's called Faith, not certainty. As someone who is religious themselves, I should know this.

Emotions are not concrete facts, concrete facts are the only thing that matters, so emotions do not matter.

People don't believe that water is hydrogen and oxygen because they feel that way, they believe it because there's facts supporting it. It's called science.

Long story short... regardless of their identity, their biological structure defines what they really are and there is no way to change that. There's nothing saying anyone has to respect their choice of identity. It's a free world, I don't have to cater to them.

And yes, I know it's rude, but they need to accept the fact that sometimes there isn't a nice way to say something. That, and their own feelings are irrelevant to the facts so I don't care.
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Oldschool777 : I find it interesting that the question led off with 'opinion,' and you shared your opinion and then you got shredded for it. Even if there's disagreement, we want opinions and thoughts to understand the other person before we seek to be understood. It kills me that everyone says, "Hey, what do you think?" and after you share your thoughts, they say, "You don't know anything. How dare you feel this way! You're a terrible person," etc, etc.

You're not grumpy and old. You have an opinion that goes against what other people think. Good for you for standing your ground. That, too me, is not grumpy. It's belief. I disagree with you but good for you for picking a thought process, making a decision about your feelings, and holding on.
Oldschool777 : I find it interesting that the question led off with 'opinion,' and you shared your opinion and then you got shredded for it. Even if there's disagreement, we want opinions and thoughts to understand the other person before we seek to be understood. It kills me that everyone says, "Hey, what do you think?" and after you share your thoughts, they say, "You don't know anything. How dare you feel this way! You're a terrible person," etc, etc.

You're not grumpy and old. You have an opinion that goes against what other people think. Good for you for standing your ground. That, too me, is not grumpy. It's belief. I disagree with you but good for you for picking a thought process, making a decision about your feelings, and holding on.
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yoshirulez! : Observation is, in its own right, research. Thank you very much for elaborating on your previous post. I only felt that the brevity of your original statement felt more of an attack than it was an observational statement. Your response was well thought out and I appreciate that.
yoshirulez! : Observation is, in its own right, research. Thank you very much for elaborating on your previous post. I only felt that the brevity of your original statement felt more of an attack than it was an observational statement. Your response was well thought out and I appreciate that.
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Even if we disagree,respect and civility should prevail. And in Maguc's defense,he admitted that he lashed out a bit unfairly. You are welcome to disagree with me,just as I am welcome to voice what I think. Good for you for being civil and courteous. Thank you for thinking that I am just being me and not trying to be a jerk.
Even if we disagree,respect and civility should prevail. And in Maguc's defense,he admitted that he lashed out a bit unfairly. You are welcome to disagree with me,just as I am welcome to voice what I think. Good for you for being civil and courteous. Thank you for thinking that I am just being me and not trying to be a jerk.
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First of all, I need to ask a couple questions, and I want to clarify beforehand that it's not some snarky remark, it's a serious question.

In principle, is there a difference between "trans gender" and "other-kin"?

What's a hermaphrodite.....?
First of all, I need to ask a couple questions, and I want to clarify beforehand that it's not some snarky remark, it's a serious question.

In principle, is there a difference between "trans gender" and "other-kin"?

What's a hermaphrodite.....?
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In my honest opinion, I'd have to say all the media attention is doing more harm than good.
Aside from some obvious tolerance improvements, I really can't see this doing much good in the long-run.

Most Transgender people were, more or less, okay with the way things were at the time.Most of this pressure for change seems to be coming from SJWs who only want a chance in the spotlight.And a justification to start flame wars.The kind of people who demand, not ask for, everything they want and aren't afraid to step all over people.I think the vast majority of people who are transgendered are really only focused on getting by and coping in life, but of course, there are always going to be those people who want accommodations for everything.

If the media these days wasn't so apologetic, and differentiated between legitimate grievances, and unreasonable demands.The main reason for this being, in my opinion, the knee-jerk reaction that anyone speaking against it is being bigoted.
I mean, sometimes they are, but, everyone's entitled to their opinion.I, myself am not a very big fan of the whole idea.I think that gender is something you really can't change.Of course, I probably wouldn't say that anywhere other than Vizzed because I'd get severe backlash.

I mean, I'm a nice guy, I don't judge.I'm fine with a simple "agree to disagree".But, some people don't see it that way.Whatever the case, we need to think about all the ramifications of any big social changes from all angle.Not just support something in an atempt to be politically correct.In my opinion, everybody should be allowed to respectfully voice their opinion, even if it gose against the grain.Something the supposedly "unbiased" media dosen't seem to get.If only on group of people is allowed to have the "right" opinion on something it ends up being bad for everyone.
In my honest opinion, I'd have to say all the media attention is doing more harm than good.
Aside from some obvious tolerance improvements, I really can't see this doing much good in the long-run.

Most Transgender people were, more or less, okay with the way things were at the time.Most of this pressure for change seems to be coming from SJWs who only want a chance in the spotlight.And a justification to start flame wars.The kind of people who demand, not ask for, everything they want and aren't afraid to step all over people.I think the vast majority of people who are transgendered are really only focused on getting by and coping in life, but of course, there are always going to be those people who want accommodations for everything.

If the media these days wasn't so apologetic, and differentiated between legitimate grievances, and unreasonable demands.The main reason for this being, in my opinion, the knee-jerk reaction that anyone speaking against it is being bigoted.
I mean, sometimes they are, but, everyone's entitled to their opinion.I, myself am not a very big fan of the whole idea.I think that gender is something you really can't change.Of course, I probably wouldn't say that anywhere other than Vizzed because I'd get severe backlash.

I mean, I'm a nice guy, I don't judge.I'm fine with a simple "agree to disagree".But, some people don't see it that way.Whatever the case, we need to think about all the ramifications of any big social changes from all angle.Not just support something in an atempt to be politically correct.In my opinion, everybody should be allowed to respectfully voice their opinion, even if it gose against the grain.Something the supposedly "unbiased" media dosen't seem to get.If only on group of people is allowed to have the "right" opinion on something it ends up being bad for everyone.
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m0ssb3rg935 : Certainly. I suppose different people may have different ideas as to what the transgender community implies, however my post is only asking for opinions on the popular transgender media, at the moment. This only involves those who were born as one sex, but identify as the opposite.

Hermaphrodites are people who were born with reproductive organs of both the male and female sexes. Sometimes people associate hermaphrodites as people who have secondary sex characteristics that are similar to their opposite sex, but hermaphrodites are, by definition, born as both sexes. Therefore, hermaphrodites transitioning to a certain sex really only means that they are choosing to eliminate the certain qualities that they were born with in favor of other qualities they were also born with.

Otherkin are an interesting subject, but once again, they stray from the original topic at hand. I'm not really sure that popular media even really understands what "otherkin" are, at the moment. Transgender people are people who were born with a certain physical dysphoria that (be it from the way society views them or the way they view themselves) causes them extreme discomfort when being force to identify as the sex they were born as. Otherkin encompasses a large variety of different transitions. While some may include otherkin as a member of the transgender community, they are not the subjects of the media attention, at the moment, and thus, are not including in my questioning.

Thank you very much for the clarification request.
m0ssb3rg935 : Certainly. I suppose different people may have different ideas as to what the transgender community implies, however my post is only asking for opinions on the popular transgender media, at the moment. This only involves those who were born as one sex, but identify as the opposite.

Hermaphrodites are people who were born with reproductive organs of both the male and female sexes. Sometimes people associate hermaphrodites as people who have secondary sex characteristics that are similar to their opposite sex, but hermaphrodites are, by definition, born as both sexes. Therefore, hermaphrodites transitioning to a certain sex really only means that they are choosing to eliminate the certain qualities that they were born with in favor of other qualities they were also born with.

Otherkin are an interesting subject, but once again, they stray from the original topic at hand. I'm not really sure that popular media even really understands what "otherkin" are, at the moment. Transgender people are people who were born with a certain physical dysphoria that (be it from the way society views them or the way they view themselves) causes them extreme discomfort when being force to identify as the sex they were born as. Otherkin encompasses a large variety of different transitions. While some may include otherkin as a member of the transgender community, they are not the subjects of the media attention, at the moment, and thus, are not including in my questioning.

Thank you very much for the clarification request.
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While I wholly disapprove of my brother's barbaric lack of tact or manners, I will agree with him In saying that, sometimes, there's no polite way to say something, and I mean no offense by my statement. I would classify transgenderism as a mental abnormality. This is not to say that I have an irrational hate for them or anything else. I have several people I consider to be friends that are either homosexual or bisexual.

As far as the publicity goes, I don't thing that these militant extremists really represent them, and they are most certainly doing more harm than good. I would compare it to the Black Lives Matter movement. We have white supremacists who claim that black people are brutal, unintelligent savages, and instead of proving them wrong, they go about defending armed robbers and rioting. These particular groups are damaging not only their own images, but the people that they claim to represent. If a minority wants equality, making unseasonable demands for preferential treatment is NOT the way to go about it.

On the subject of bathroom laws, I completely disagree. I do believe people should be a great deal less judgmental, but over reach from a centralized government in state affairs is absolute unacceptable. Manipulating law to force the majority of the population to change their ways is oppression in of itself.
While I wholly disapprove of my brother's barbaric lack of tact or manners, I will agree with him In saying that, sometimes, there's no polite way to say something, and I mean no offense by my statement. I would classify transgenderism as a mental abnormality. This is not to say that I have an irrational hate for them or anything else. I have several people I consider to be friends that are either homosexual or bisexual.

As far as the publicity goes, I don't thing that these militant extremists really represent them, and they are most certainly doing more harm than good. I would compare it to the Black Lives Matter movement. We have white supremacists who claim that black people are brutal, unintelligent savages, and instead of proving them wrong, they go about defending armed robbers and rioting. These particular groups are damaging not only their own images, but the people that they claim to represent. If a minority wants equality, making unseasonable demands for preferential treatment is NOT the way to go about it.

On the subject of bathroom laws, I completely disagree. I do believe people should be a great deal less judgmental, but over reach from a centralized government in state affairs is absolute unacceptable. Manipulating law to force the majority of the population to change their ways is oppression in of itself.
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