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Should the Old Testament be followed? What do you think?
Yes, follow every word and rule.
 
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No, abandon the whole thing.
 
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Please read the Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Hebrew versions of the The ten commandments if you never have, and the following before answering.

Here are the Second Ten Commandments in Exodus 34;
* Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god).
* Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
* The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep in the month when the ear is on the corn.
* All the first-born are mine.
* Six days shalt thou work, but on the seventh thou shalt rest.
* Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
* Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread.
* The fat of my feast shall not remain all night until the morning.
* The first of the first fruits of thy ground thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God.
* Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.
Please read the Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Hebrew versions of the The ten commandments if you never have, and the following before answering.

Here are the Second Ten Commandments in Exodus 34;
* Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god).
* Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
* The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep in the month when the ear is on the corn.
* All the first-born are mine.
* Six days shalt thou work, but on the seventh thou shalt rest.
* Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
* Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread.
* The fat of my feast shall not remain all night until the morning.
* The first of the first fruits of thy ground thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God.
* Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.
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They are pretty much the same aren't they?
They are pretty much the same aren't they?
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The protestant, roman catholic, and hebrew versions are 'pretty much' the same, but they're also wrong. The 'real commandments' as 'set on stone' are the ones listed above. Those include; "Do not cook lamb in goat'smilk."

You haven't cooked any lamb in goatsmilk lately, have you?
The protestant, roman catholic, and hebrew versions are 'pretty much' the same, but they're also wrong. The 'real commandments' as 'set on stone' are the ones listed above. Those include; "Do not cook lamb in goat'smilk."

You haven't cooked any lamb in goatsmilk lately, have you?
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Can I say, don't abandon the whole thing, but no need to follow the rules because of Christ.
Can I say, don't abandon the whole thing, but no need to follow the rules because of Christ.
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I'm not voting cuz you dont have something in the middle of there.
I'm not voting cuz you dont have something in the middle of there.
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There IS no middle. There ISNT. No MIDDLE. See, you have to LOVE it or HATE it. If you don't LOVE it, then you must HATE it.

It's like saying you follow Hitler because he was Democratic, but not because he killed people.

It just means you're dumb.
There IS no middle. There ISNT. No MIDDLE. See, you have to LOVE it or HATE it. If you don't LOVE it, then you must HATE it.

It's like saying you follow Hitler because he was Democratic, but not because he killed people.

It just means you're dumb.
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I feel the old testament showldn't be followed exactly, but they give good insight in how things let up to Jesus, and often the Nes testament quotes and uses examples from the old, and there much easier to understand if you read it. And as for books like Psalms and Proverbs, well there not laws for the Hebrews, there songs of prais to God, they help you undertand what type of persone he is, because God didn't change, humains and curcumstances have, so he deos have to changes the rules now and then, but those songs and proverbs of love for God, they're still interesting to read and helpful to read. After all, “ALL scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.”—2 Timothy 3:16, 17. Notice ALL, and Jesus himsefl called the Old testament scriptures. So I Agree with Lowell when he sais that the Old testiment is out of date for listening to it's laws, but I wont hate somthing God ispired to write for our well being.
I feel the old testament showldn't be followed exactly, but they give good insight in how things let up to Jesus, and often the Nes testament quotes and uses examples from the old, and there much easier to understand if you read it. And as for books like Psalms and Proverbs, well there not laws for the Hebrews, there songs of prais to God, they help you undertand what type of persone he is, because God didn't change, humains and curcumstances have, so he deos have to changes the rules now and then, but those songs and proverbs of love for God, they're still interesting to read and helpful to read. After all, “ALL scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.”—2 Timothy 3:16, 17. Notice ALL, and Jesus himsefl called the Old testament scriptures. So I Agree with Lowell when he sais that the Old testiment is out of date for listening to it's laws, but I wont hate somthing God ispired to write for our well being.
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How about undecided... there is no undecided.
How about undecided... there is no undecided.
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I'm going to have to go home and read over some chapters in Exodus.... but, if I recall correctly, there is a good reason for what happened with the stone tablets and the commandments and so forth...

I'll go read up on it when I have time, and give a better response than what has been given here
I'm going to have to go home and read over some chapters in Exodus.... but, if I recall correctly, there is a good reason for what happened with the stone tablets and the commandments and so forth...

I'll go read up on it when I have time, and give a better response than what has been given here
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Originally posted by John
How about undecided... there is no undecided.



If you don't vote, that means your undecided
Originally posted by John
How about undecided... there is no undecided.



If you don't vote, that means your undecided
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well, here is what I don't get....

why does this matter?

to Christians that law of Moses (ie ten commandmets, sacrifice laws) are all done away with when Christ came and died.

so, who cares if there are 2 "versions".... there were hundreds of commandments that the Jews had to follow back then... so what if there was 2 versions of the now called 10 commandments.... I just don't see why it matters now
well, here is what I don't get....

why does this matter?

to Christians that law of Moses (ie ten commandmets, sacrifice laws) are all done away with when Christ came and died.

so, who cares if there are 2 "versions".... there were hundreds of commandments that the Jews had to follow back then... so what if there was 2 versions of the now called 10 commandments.... I just don't see why it matters now
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This is dumb

GOD IS A DICTATOR!
This is dumb

GOD IS A DICTATOR!
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wow Mike, thanks for the spam!

how about you don't post in here anymore, if you have nothing constructive to say
wow Mike, thanks for the spam!

how about you don't post in here anymore, if you have nothing constructive to say
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time to ban mike from the Cafe Corner (i wish that were possible)
time to ban mike from the Cafe Corner (i wish that were possible)
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heh, I'm sure it is possible... but, not worth doing
heh, I'm sure it is possible... but, not worth doing
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Why?
I put my two cents in on the matter. John put his two cents in and didnt get riddiculed for it. WHY AM I BEING ATTACKED FOR STATING MY THOUGHTS?!
Why?
I put my two cents in on the matter. John put his two cents in and didnt get riddiculed for it. WHY AM I BEING ATTACKED FOR STATING MY THOUGHTS?!
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Originally posted by Mike
Why?
I put my two cents in on the matter. John put his two cents in and didnt get riddiculed for it. WHY AM I BEING ATTACKED FOR STATING MY THOUGHTS?!


I'm just joking, I really meant to say is "I wish it were possible to ban members from certain forums"
Originally posted by Mike
Why?
I put my two cents in on the matter. John put his two cents in and didnt get riddiculed for it. WHY AM I BEING ATTACKED FOR STATING MY THOUGHTS?!


I'm just joking, I really meant to say is "I wish it were possible to ban members from certain forums"
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he didn't spam.... you did.... this has nothing to do with God being a dictator...

John asked why there wasn't an undecided....

use your head!
he didn't spam.... you did.... this has nothing to do with God being a dictator...

John asked why there wasn't an undecided....

use your head!
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Originally posted by geeogree
well, here is what I don't get....

why does this matter?

to Christians that law of Moses (ie ten commandmets, sacrifice laws) are all done away with when Christ came and died.

so, who cares if there are 2 "versions".... there were hundreds of commandments that the Jews had to follow back then... so what if there was 2 versions of the now called 10 commandments.... I just don't see why it matters now


You're right. Christ set us free from those commandments.
Originally posted by geeogree
well, here is what I don't get....

why does this matter?

to Christians that law of Moses (ie ten commandmets, sacrifice laws) are all done away with when Christ came and died.

so, who cares if there are 2 "versions".... there were hundreds of commandments that the Jews had to follow back then... so what if there was 2 versions of the now called 10 commandments.... I just don't see why it matters now


You're right. Christ set us free from those commandments.
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Use my head?
And THAT was spam?

If you actually thought into what I posted you would think about the Exodus Ten Commandments.

Here, I'll spell it out for the absent minded one(Geeogree)

* Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god).


Now, if you would have thought, even alittle bit, about my post, you would have seen that I was meerly saying that God is a dictator because of that commandment.

God will not let you into Heaven, if you believe in someone other higher etentny other than him. Dictatorship right there.

THINK MAN! THINK!
Use my head?
And THAT was spam?

If you actually thought into what I posted you would think about the Exodus Ten Commandments.

Here, I'll spell it out for the absent minded one(Geeogree)

* Thou shalt worship no other god (For the Lord is a jealous god).


Now, if you would have thought, even alittle bit, about my post, you would have seen that I was meerly saying that God is a dictator because of that commandment.

God will not let you into Heaven, if you believe in someone other higher etentny other than him. Dictatorship right there.

THINK MAN! THINK!
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