Here is a link of the news about those statutes plans of demolition.. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-orleans-council-votes-to-remove-confederate-monuments/ar-BBnEU97

If you haven't heard in the news, my hometown of New Orleans is thinking about removing the Robert E. Lee statue and every other Confederate-related monuments. I don't even know why they want to remove history (it could be like they did with Hitler, Lenin, Saddam, and all of them, but Lee isn't anywhere near them). I know that people wants to erase the horrible past, but it got me thinking that they have went a little too far with this whole anti-confederate stuff. Sure, slavery and the KKK was horrible and all, but both of those doesn't mean the whole Confederacy was bad. There is a saying, don't judge a book by it's cover.

Like I said, I know racism is beyond horrific, but thinking of removing history because people are so offended is even worse. My advice is just deal with it and not pay attention to it, and go on with your lives.

If you know me, I don't care about history or the Confederacy, because that was the past and I look at the future, but it's getting to a point that it's getting out of control and I'm getting sick and tired of hearing about banning all Confederate-related things, why didn't they do that 150 years ago instead of waiting till today and create a commotion.

You know, with all the recent actions such as this one, this got me thinking that the whole world is getting too sensitive, like you can't say anything or do anything without offending those people, it's getting to a point that everyone is turning into wimps, all of you guys that are offended needs to man up and grow up, no one can get things your way, just let it go and move on.

When anyone believes what is shown in the main stream media, than yes, people are that sensitive.  I would go so far as to call them sheeple.  You can't see our world in anything less than a game show these days.

People are weird. They want to remove Thomas Jefferson statues too because he was a racist. Why not throw out the constitution since it was written by racists too? You know, every country that currently exists was founded on racism and rebellion. We should rebel against that and start a new country that only discriminates discriminators! That's not hypocritical at all!

I think political correctness has gotten out of hand. There have been movements that want to take the civil war era out of history books. If we do not learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it. But it seems like everything offends anybody. People have been told not to put out Nativity scenes because it might offend non Christians, schools have told some students not to pray before eating or before class because it might offend somebody. Church's have had signs vandalized because their message offended somebody. In some counties people want to remove dead confederate soldiers graves because it is sensitive. In addition, some places no longer serve meat esp pork cause it offenses people. 
 
So yes, I think the world has gotten to sensitive. It just seems like no matter what you do or say somebody will find it offensive. I am concerned it is going to get so bad that we will lose freedom of speech. Used to when I was growing up 80's and early 90's. If something was offensive on TV you just changed the channel. If a sign was offensive you just kept driving or take your business elsewhere. 

From my understanding, the South had a right to succeed in the first place. I actually think that the civil war was widely misunderstood. I wish the Federal government didn't exercise the kindof power that it does today, and states maintained more individuality, but that's long since been gone.

Since. . . Andrew Jackson's era?

My American politics and history must be rusty. . .

These people are WAY too sensitive. Yeah, let's remove our entire culture because people who  aren't even from here had their feelings hurt!

The South, back in the day, had every right to suceed from the Union. And regardless of what people say; the Civil War wasn't about "the racis South wanting to keep slaves". It was completely about tariffs, taxes, and how the North and South were just...Too different. It was a war over rights and independence. Slavery wasn't the big issue at hand until near the very end. The Southern states have a right to their culture. That flag symbolized everything they were. We shouldn't tear down and destroy history in order to be politically correct.

A user of this : My point exactly. I think that the South can succeed from the Union, and they did in 1860, but immediately got dragged into a war with the Union and both merged together again, and the South attempted to succeed again in 2013 but failed because the North prohibited the South from doing so.
In the history books, they say it's because of Slavery, but that is completely false, they wanted to become independent because they got sick of being bullied by the Union.

People thinks the Confederates are slave supporting, racist morons, it's not true. The media want to make the Confederates look bad because they were slave owners before they made slavery against the law. If the North let the South become independent, you can see all the Southerns aren't evil slave supporting morons like the media wants you to think.

That's like the flag controversy, it's because a member of the KKK shot all those people in an African American church and wave the Confederate flag, that doesn't mean to forbid that flag, they could used the US flag and nothing will happen. I don't want to go into details or I'll start making conspiracy theories and I'll start sounding dumb.

ok I had to write all this thrice thanks to a glitch.... I might break it up into 2 post now just to make it easier on the system, I guess.

A lot in this post might offend people, but it's history, You can either accept it or not. Your choice.

History is important! I agree with is quote, "But blaming Western Culture, or America, or even racism, for slavery can only be done in complete ignorance of history."

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All this racism is ignorant people throwing tantrums and using it as an excuse to control things!

Just about everyone back during the War between the States was Racist (including Abe Lincoln yes THAT GUY who Mayor Landrieu quoted "A house divided against itself cannot stand."):

Abe Lincoln himself even admitted it at the city (Charlston) were this mess began:

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political
equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of
negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this
that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races
living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain
together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the
superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is
to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

He used Blacks as pawns during the War:

"I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free"

In fact he didn't want blacks in our country at all (Like Trump to Muslims):

"my first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment's reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible"

In fact, he even said he would perhaps accept slavery based on the situation:

"Before proceeding, let me say I think I have no prejudice against the Southern people. They are just what we would be in their situation. If slavery did not now exist among them, they would not introduce it. If it did now exist amongst us, we should not instantly give it up. This I believe of the masses North and South. Doubtless there are individuals on both sides, who would not hold slaves under any circumstances; and others who would gladly introduce slavery anew, if it were out of existence. We know that some Southern men do free their slaves, go North, and become tip-top Abolitionist; while some Northern ones go South, and become most cruel slave-masters.
 When Southern people tell us they are no more responsible for the origin of slavery than we, I acknowledge the fact. When it is said that the institution exists, and that it is very difficult to get rid of it, in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know how to do myself."

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Here's some little known facts:

The first American Slave owner was black and he owned a black. He was also an ex-indentured servant!

The Largest slave plantations were probably owned by blacks according to tax and census records

Some people know that the slave trade was run mostly by African tribes and kings but like to ignore it. If they didn't,
then they'd have to come to terms that their "we are Africans forced into slavery by white man" ideology that started
in the 60s and carried on to now is wrong.

Obama respects Confederate statues like many other presidents before him on memorial day

Memorial day (Decoration day) was started in Mississippi during the War.

The Union was wrong and performed an Act of War of the Confederacy. Prompting the South to start the war. And ironically in the same city where the shootings began...

Some blacks HATE the union!

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WandererExiled : Your post glitched out, but no worries, it has happened before.

It must have sucked to pick your own damn cotton. Never forget. Hope your family knew how to pick it like proper southern gentlemen.

If a person of the past doing ANYTHING wrong is reason enough to tear down their memorial, then basically EVERY SINGLE politician needs to be erased. ALL Southern presidents until Lincoln were slave owners, progressives like Wilson were highly racists while FDR was downright fascist with his seizing of gold and internment of the Japanese.

I get it, the Confederacy fought mostly to keep slavery. But trying to do away with the past altogether reminds me too much on 1984...

The confederacy was a bad stain on American history, but it doesn't mean that we should be taking down anything confederate related. If the object is offensive in any way, then yes it should be taken down, but you shouldn't try to run from past mistakes and try to forget them as if they never existed. Sure we have text books and history teachers, but its in one ear and out the other. Honestly though, no one thinks about the events of the civil war and the confederacy in their free time. Statues, confederate related objects, can stand as a reminder to us of what to avoid in the future as to not repeat the past. Statues are out there for eveyone to see and most of the time they don't go away from natural circumstances. Books are read and forgotten. 
And that's my opinion!

Absolutely, the world is getting too sensitive. Honestly, this is, unfortunately, not a new thing. It's been happening for years, and it just keeps getting worse.

I hate the hyper-sensitivity (and it's an insult to those who can actually be sensitive to stuff such as myself), I hate the political correctness, and I hate the so-called triggering to everything in sight that doesn't completely comply with what they want.

What's more baffling about this situation itself is that demolishing statues and monuments won't change the past. What happened, happened. You can do all you want to your Hitler statues and other historical reminders, but the cold, hard truth is that the Holocaust really happened. People died, and wars were fought. These are irreversible facts. I suppose next we should start hunting down any history building that teaches people about the Civil War. Oh, wait, that's every class and a plethora of museums.

Seriously, I don't know what their goal is here with removing statues. There are statues depicting bad moments throughout history, whether you like them or not. People are learning about these moments in school and out in the real world, whether you like them or not. This whole "triggered" stupidity is getting way out of hand, and I hope it stops soon, because political correctness is dangerous territory if we start rewarding it too much.

Mangepic : Good point: why be offended by OBJECTS? Besides pigeons need a place to... do their business. Of course, it public money is used for their making that is another story...

SWTerra : at that point I would call it dementia. And yes, one can not change (objectively) the past. If anything, these monuments could serve as a reminder of past mistakes. Just like Auswitch: it serves as a dire reminder of the horrors humans are capable of and why we must NEVER repeat these mistakes. Same thing for the remainders of the Berlin Wall.

Janus:

All of the statues, except the 'Battle of Liberty Place Obelisk', was paid for by private groups. 

Mangepic:

The 'Battle of Liberty Place Obelisk' (Erected in 1932 --between WWI and WWII) originally contained a statement contributing the victory to the US government to white supremacy and allowing the white citizens to control the city. This isn't a huge deal during that time since, as per my above post, this was a belief held by the entire nation --not just the South-- and was at its strongest during the World Wars.

In 1974, the City of New Orleans posted a 'disclaimer' stating that the white supremacy statement does not reflect current views of present day beliefs.

In 1993 (23 years ago), the City of New Orleans, with approval of the major historian organizations, revised the Plaque and removed the racial statements and added "In honor of those Americans on both sides who died in the Battle of Liberty Place ... A conflict of the past that should teach us lessons for the future."

The battle was actually a very bad riot gone wrong (imagine the Baltimore riots with guns and canons and you'll get a small taste). It was started over the fact that the Congress instated government (no one got to vote), was stealing private land and residencies for government use, public funds (they started the first lottery and said they were using it for state repairs but the officials were pocketing the money), blocking blacks from starting businesses (which profited the black L. Governor who was the richest in the state), and many other things --all illegal and against the Constitution. This was the last of many riots that were started over many different things. One riot even started when a Union platoon (700 black soldier) through out a dead girl's body (during a funeral) when they confiscated a house; this caused a riot of 100~ ex-confederate soldiers (including 10 cavalry and 4 canons) and ended with the slaughter of the entire Union platoon.

Basically, the whites in Louisiana reacted the same way blacks and racial protesters are now --minus the guns and canons.

So my question is: Why would the Mayor want to tear down a monument that literally says we messed up and need to learn from the mistake and is reminding us of the same stupid mistake we are making now --letting Racial hatred and sensitivity get in the way of real social improvement?

WandererExiled : Then taking the "private" statues is completely wrong.

As for you last question: I read the word "presentism" a few times already, and it would bring you the answer. People believe that whatever is not acceptable today must be completely rejected. It should not take long before people start protesting against Lincoln, who clearly wished for segregation.

This steps over the line of the anti-Confederate sentiment. The Confederate flag was significant and justifiably offensive due to it representing more than just history. To many, it represents slavery and racism, and flying it is akin to flying the Nazi flag, albeit to quite a lesser degree. However, this does not mean that the Confederate flag should not be in history books. This does not in any way mean that we should sweep our past under the rug. To move forward, we must face our past transgressions, and learn from them.

The statue of Robert E. Lee is important to history. Unlike a flag, which is a picture that represents a place and certain ideals, Robert E. Lee was a person who served in the war. The statue itself doesn't necessarily honor his accomplishments, nor does it put him in a dishonorable light. It merely acknowledges his significance, and the fact that he had a large impact on out country's history.

The big court case over the Monuments is tomorrow at 9:30 am CDT. It'll be covered LIVE on the Internet. If no one post after me I'll update this post when the live feed comes out so that whoever is interested can keep up.

UPDATE:
Live Feed of Court case.  It appears to not be an actual LIVE feed but rather just randomly posted sections of the records.

I think we're so caught up on "our rights." People have gotten too sensitive and ridiculous. I think we should not destroy history but continue to learn from it.