well i just want to say shalom.i feel there are a lot of people that say that they know the truth but actually they dont even know the small answers to the truth.first of all how many people know what the word "Jesus Christ" mean?did anyone know that that is not his name.if u look up the english words they will tell u the definition.people just need to study more."study and show thy self approved".and u also need to know that HE is only here to save HIS people.THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL(NOT ISRAELIS) READ THE BIBLE IT ALWAYS SAYS HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL.JUST STUDY AND GET BACK.LETS SEE WHERE THE KNOWLEDGE IS.

I guess I'm not since you seem to think you know the truth.

Tell us oh wise one.... what is the true path?

Again, you cannot claim truth in a society built on lies its just not possible. The roots go so deep there is no back tracking.

Truth about something in your lifetime is one thing, truth about stuff that happened thousands of years ago is impossible to solve.

If you want to dig for truth, dig even further past religion before it existed and there is your truthful answer.

"If you want to dig for truth, dig even further past religion before it existed and there is your truthful answer."

Well, yes and no. Not all religion is the same as you're painting it to be (I know you haven't actually said much... but there is a lot behind the use of the word religion by you. At least I think I know you well enough to know that )

Religion wasn't like it is today. Religion was a way of life rather than a control structure that it is being used for in a lot of places. I think that's why you're seeing more and more people claiming to be "spiritual" + [insert religion here] rather than just being a religion. They believe certain things but don't allow a religion to control where that belief takes them.

But I do agree that behind religion there is the truth. The real honest answer of where we came from, who we are, why we are here and what happens when we die.

im not trying to say that i know it all i just want the 12 tribes to come back to HIM so that this s*** started not trying to say that dont nobody know but if you did you would know what im talking about

Originally posted by JUDAH

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im not trying to say that i know it all i just want the 12 tribes to come back to HIM so that this s*** started not trying to say that dont nobody know but if you did you would know what im talking about

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I don't think any of us know what you're talking about. You don't really make any sense.

Try using some punctuation and adding a little more to your explanations.

i understand but everything is already written well in my studies i have seen and read the truth in many books not just the bible but also in history,biography,and many other books.the truth is twisted but the truth is still out there its up to us to seek it out.without doing that how will you know if it is true or a lie you cant just listen to what they say or try to teach you you should take the time out to get the real information

Yea I have no clue about what your talking about either lol. I'm very uninformed on religion however I believe that no matter how much I know about a religion that I can ultimately draw the same conclusions for them all and that is none of them are 100% real or correct, fraud exists so I will take the bits that sound good and appear reasonable and put it into my current reality and viewpoint

But what are these 12 tribes your talking about? I'm so lost here

ok the 12 tribes are the sons of jacob in the bible.you did know that we are all desendents from the people out of the bible.first of all if you dont know anything bout the bible(or should i say understand)then there is no need for all of this.

When you say you want the 12 Tribes to return to HIM do you mean "God" or "Jesus"?

Also, I'm a bit rusty on this, but I believe that Jesus Christ is a corruption of the orginal Greek term which means "the annointed one" or something like that. I believe his real name was Joshua or something.

The Twelve Tribes of Israel are the Jewish people, to put it in the most simple terms possible. It is mentioned a lot in the Old Testament.

But yes, Judah, your wording is a bit confusing, could you elaborate on what you are saying?

Originally posted by Elara

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The Twelve Tribes of Israel are the Jewish people, to put it in the most simple terms possible. It is mentioned a lot in the Old Testament.

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The Jews are just 1 tribe of the 12 tribes. The tribes did intermix somewhat but there are the "lost" 10 tribes that were taken away into Assyria I believe. I think that happened around 800 BC. That's all

that is just what they want everyone to think.i use Judah cause of the people(desendent)or son of Jacob.Judah is a form of people now in these times just scattered(the 12 tribes are scattered but they are out there).they say that they are the desendents of Judah but why do they say that they are jewish(brownish is brown like but not it)that is what they are.they try to do the acts but they still aint it.

Psalm 147:19-20
He sheweth his word unto Jacob,
His statutes and judgements unto Israel.
He hath not dealt so with any nation:
And as for his judgements,they have
not known them.
Praise ye the Lord.


read as it was written or go to http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=no+jot

I'm still a bit confused. Given the topic title, I didn't quite expect what you came up with here...

So if I just believe/know "what they want [me] to think" and not that which you are stating, I am on the wrong path, or something? D:

The "Right Path" is not something I say to you many people are on right now. The idea that one can do as they please is a reality that is given to us by our maker (Free Will). One night stands, murder, drunk driving, zoophile, rape, suicide, stealing, desecration of the body, and many other sins or negative doings are allowed. We are not immediately punished for doing such things so we feel we can or should do it, rather it be for beliefs or temptation. Man has come far from our days as village people. Is the path of Urbanization right or wrong. Just think don't our actions have consequences . We are wiping out our Lords creatures all for the sake of making money or whatever. The path we are taking ? is it helping creation or causing us our future destruction??






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Originally posted by JUDAH

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and u also need to know that HE is only here to save HIS people.

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*Crawldragon makes an annoying buzzer sound and screams "WRONG."
Multiple times in the Bible Jesus saves the children of the non-Jewish. In one case, he tells a Gentile woman he will not save her child because the dogs hide under the table while the children eat of their fathers' food. This is basically Jesus calling the Gentiles (non-Israelis) "dogs." In another passage he used the word "donkey." But then the woman countered with "yes, but the dogs also eat of the childrens' crumbs." Her faith was strong enough for her prayer to be answered, and her child was saved. This passage demonstrates that everyone, Jewish or Gentile, can be saved and will be given the chance.

Frankly I think you're full of yourself to suggest that only the Jewish people are being saved when God meant for everyone on Earth to live in paradise. Why do you think He punished Adam and Eve for sinning in the Garden of Eden? Because He wanted them and their children to have their little paradise, a home, a happy place, but they polluted it by introducing death and sin into the system. Everyone is the child of Adam and Eve without exception, so if God had intended a paradise for them why not for us?

By saying that God only was here to save the twelve tribes is ignoring many passages in the Bible. The twelve tribes aren't given any special treatment; God destroyed a family of them for breaking the fundamental laws he had laid down. He put into a position of power a man who punished the twelve tribes for worshiping a statue of a cow by grinding it up, putting it in their water, and making them drink it.

The twelve tribes have just the same standards as us: Here is your savior. If you accept His forgiveness I will be able to save you. If you do not, it does not matter who you are, I can not save you. Those are the fundamental laws, as modified by Jesus when He died on the cross.