to start off the thread I thought I would post a question that's been making me think for a while. im planning on going into the custom gun smithing and ammunition manufacturing business and thought that the concept of the pocket pistol was due for an update. a more controllable more effective deep cover ccw. I have already decided on a specific cartridge for my design but am having trouble with the concept because of the shear size of the round. the round I have chosen is the less than popular and in my opinion under rated .50 guncrafter industries or 50gi. with little to no over penetration and a 24% larger cavity with the lighter 185-230 grain hollow points the 50gi would conceptually be the ultimate personal defence round. recoil is not an issue because we are talking about the same weight bullets that are commonly used in the .45 acp. recoil is only a hair more than the .45 similar to the 10mm auto. its a low pressure low velocity round with a long reload life. there are only a few setbacks to the round some may consider to be major. one being that with no major manufacturers producing cartridges in this caliber. the only way to get them is through guncrafter industries or to load your own. my idea is if we make more firearms in this chambering than major ammo makers will take notice. so without any further rambling the question does anyone have any suggestions on how to make a pocket pistol no bigger than a slim-line .45 in such a large caliber? I believe that there are a great many out there that would love to have a 50 cal suitable for defence purposes in a compact package.

I personally believe that all guns are for is to kill and harm living things so I don't think manufacturing them will make that problem solve but if your dedicated enough to do so go ahead.

austipokedude : not all firearms are weapons per say. a firearm can be a tool or for lack of a better word
a toy. for some people its a tool used for sport hunting of waterfowl or other migratory birds. others use them for hunting deer. others for vermin. others hunt the same animals for food. it depends on who you are talking to. some people use them for formal competition and others for informal target practice or "plinking". to another crowd there collectors items. on the weapon side you have the bad guys like burglar's carjackers gang and drug cartel members. and then you have the average person who is not necessarily paranoid but is concerned with them and there family's safety. firearms are not bad they just happen to fall in a bad persons hands. there is a very old latin saying that I cant quote exactly buy will paraphrase: a sword has never killed anyone. what I suggest is that you go to a firing range and rent a .22 lr revolver. I personally think you will have fun with it.