This video will greatly help you understand what will happen during the end days and what Aliens have to do with it.

I've known about this for a while, but not this in depth until now.
You definitely want to know about this so that you are not deceived.



Tom Horn and Cris Putnam on It's Supernatural

I watched some parts of video and have come to the conclusion that its really no different then what David Icke talks about. At the end of the day this isn't about the end of the world or aliens, its about fear mongering me and taking money out of my wallet.

How they say the new pope will establish the antichrist and burn down rome is really no different then what Alex Jones says about Bush or Obama establishing the new world order and shoving us in FEMA camps.

When they mentioned project lucifer that is when I really discredited them. Project bluebeam would be a more appropriate choice cause that is far more realistic then turning saturn or jupiter into a sun.

The only big deception going around is how the antichrist is NOT here, clearly he is when you take a look around. If you are waiting for a deception or antichrist to come... its too late cause you are already deceived. That is something you learn real quick with doomsday predictions and presidential elections, they come and they go and look at how many people its deceived over and over again.

The whole trick to deception is to work a story and keep it going, much like these guys are doing with their books, dvds and tv shows. When I see someone selling propaganda and doomsday kits there just out for your money. Nothing they say or sell you will save you or your family. Living in remote area off the grid is about the best thing you can do to save yourself. Be lucky, cause I'm not charging you 3 payments $25 for that info

JigSaw :I can totally see what you're saying. I'm not asserting that this is what will happen but I want people to know
what could happen just in case. Actually I think that this is all just one step closer to the end, I'm not sure when the end will really come
but I have heard (I'm not sure that this is in the Bible) that the end will come faster and faster.

Thank you for not charging me three easy payments of 25$ for the end of the world forcast and how to survive it kit. XD

What a bunch of horse manure. To call this circus show as being a false prophet would be offensive to false prophets. Amusing stuff, though.

Brigand : They got their information from the Catholic Church itself, do you mean to say that they 
haven't actually seen a UFO through that telescope? 

That video was nothing but fear mongering. Sid Roth is a radical fundamentalist with a dispensationalist agenda. He's not a scholar, nor were any of his panel members. Seriously, that was beyond ridiculous. 

whitesox51 : Can you back up what you are saying?

Brigand : Peo;le won't listen to what you say if you can't back it up.
Actually your post kinda confuses me on what you mean.

Whether aliens exist or not, the Catholic Church is interested in UFOs and some of the highest officials
believe that Jesus might be a star child.

I'm pretty sure that the "aliens" are just Demons, I've heard about aliens being demons for years.

Sword legion : Which part would I need to back up? Sid Roth is not a biblical or theological scholar. There is no empirical evidence that Jesus has anything to do with aliens, or that aliens even exist. In the entire history of the Catholic church, no one has been concerned with anything that Sid Roth has said, other than perhaps some radical quack. Sorry, but Im not even close to buying it haha.

whitesox51 : Ooohhh, sorry I misunderstood.

ha ha.

I thought you were saying that the Catholics weren't interested in studying aliens when they were.
Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Sword legion :

Sorry for the long answer, I dont visit here every day or even very week. And I dont want to watch the thing again but you are ofcource right, just giving my opinnion without anything else is not very consctructive.

But let me just say this. When you talk about the bible in the same sentence with the damn mayan calenders and what not, jewish mysticism... and wearing these gosh darn ties and toothpaste smiles... I dont trust it.

But if instead of reading the bible people like to watch stuff stuff and make children with their cousins while they watch UFO`s flying over their cornfields and "whileisaythiveryfastyoushouldbuiymydvdandcdandbuymyexclusivetoiletpaperfor 999 dollars only and makesureyourgrandmothersendmehermoneyalsoorsomwheretonorthcarolina".

These people dont really base anything they are saying on anything except their own imagination, so I think I can say also pretty much I say about them without any refrences or proof and I can be opinionated as I want also.

Brigand : ok,

Well, the Catholic Church is interested in UFOs.They are actually annoyed by their existence because they 
are so common. Not that all that stuff is going to happen, but sure would make a good lie.

I think it might be pretty harsh to say that aliens are just demons. Why do aliens have to be supernatural at all? It is possible that aliens from a distant planet are just people? Now, I don't mean people as in humans. I mean just another civilization of people? I think that immediately labeling them as demons would just be another form of discrimination I mean, people used to think that people from different places on the same planet were demonic or witches. We have learned otherwise. Simply saying they are demons is no different that calling other Earth races demons simply because we do not understand them.

With that said, I do believe that aliens exist, but I do not believe that any have visited Earth. Anytime someone sees something for the briefest moment and don't know what it is, they immediately say aliens. The term UFO simply means something that the person who saw it couldn't identify it. That doesn't mean alien. 

Our Milky Way Galaxy contains over 100 billion starts. Many of those have their own planets. Granted, there have been only 3 confirmed planets (aside from Earth) to actually have water in liquid form (which is the medium for life), but we have only been able to observe the smallest fraction of other planets in the whole galaxy. Now, that is just our galaxy. The entire Universe contains billions and billions of other galaxies. The math alone is in favor of the idea that out of all those countless amounts of planets that form the same way the ones in our Solar System did, there has to be at least 1 other that has the right conditions for life.

Now, with that said, I will explain why I don't believe aliens have ever visited Earth. The closest star to our sun is 4.2 light-years away. The fastest our shuttles have ever traveled in space is about 17,000 mph. So it would take 165,776 years just for one of our shuttles to reach the closest star. So unless there these beings are either immortal or can live for hundreds of thousands (or millions depending on how far away they would be), they couldn't live long enough to make the trip. Now, an argument would be what if there were very advanced aliens out there? Possible. But everything in this Universe is bound by the same laws of physics. One of those hurdles is that matter cannot travel the speed of light. If it did, the matter would be to hot and rapid that the quarks would literally go back into the form of pure energy (quarks are what make up protons, electrons, and neutrons). So at that moment, any living thing going that fast would be dead from their physical bodies beings destroyed and turned to pure energy. Now, with the way energy works, it wouldn't just form right back into the spaceship that it was before when it slows down. Energy does not work like that. After it slowed down, you would get quarks again, and they would form into the simplest atom, which is Hydrogen. The entire shuttle and everything in it would be made into pure hydrogen gas.

So since no matter can travel the speed of light, and the farthest planet we have been able to observe is 5,000 light years away (and that one showed no sign of being able to sustain life), the closest there could be any alien planets would be over 5,000 light years away. Even if they were advanced enough to have a ship that could travel as close to the speed of light as possible before being broken down into pure energy, it would still take them OVER 5,000 years to get here. And that is IF they have the technology to travel very close to the speed of light. Otherwise, we are talking a trip that would take millions of years. Again, unless they are immortal or live that long, the trip is just too long for them to reach us. 

Now, with that said, I am not saying that there can't be a demonic race in space, which would make them alien. But if that is true, I wouldn't personally classify them as extraterrestrial beings. Those would be simply supernatural entities from either a demonic or heavenly realm. I guess the overall point of this post is that it should be important to be able to acknowledge that there could be alien life out there that has nothing to do with Heaven or Hell. There could be those that are simply another civilization, and nothing more. Something demonic is something completely different. 

Although, despite my stated belief that it is too long of trip for non demonic life out there to make the trip over here, I don't deny some possibility. I think the important thing would be to know how to distinguish the demonic from simply other civilizations. It would certainly be tough to know.

Local Mods : can you go ahead and ignore my word count in this post? A lot of it was copy/paste from another post I made in another thread.

rcarter2 : Whoa, nice post.

Yeah there could be other aliens that aren't demonic, the reason that I would say that these are though is because:

1 Fragile life could not travel here without really high technology.

2 The "aliens" that I've heard of who have "vistited" people leave when rebuked in Jesus' name.

1 out of two people in the UK believe in aliens.

Sword legion : I think those reasons are more than acceptable. If it were possible for an alien civilization to travel that far and survive the trip, I would hope that it doesn't happen (at least in my lifetime). It would just be too difficult to know if it is demonic or just another civilization. That is if the demonic realm is as effective at deception as they are portrayed. 

rcarter2 : Yeah, I really like the thought of aliens and such, but we know so little.

Who knows what demons can do.

I heard of an incident where this guy's sister was visited by aliens allmost every night.
She would wake up and scream and then the aliens (which where grey instead of green)
would disappear like a type of smoke. 

Later this guy's sister became a christian and the "aliens" never visited her again.
The guy said that the "smoke" was a hint that they were demonic.

On the other hand I think that if God made "aliens" then they would look like humans
since we are "made in God's image.

I actually always kind of wondered about the creation in God's image thing. If aliens did not look like us and were not demonic, then it would probably be time to rethink what that means. Maybe the term doesn't actually refer to physical appearance. But who will ever know?