I'm actually wondering if there is anyone on this board who is actually against spanking. I myself was spanked as a kid when I did something wrong and I do believe that it is an appropriate disciplinary action to let the child know that what they are doing is wrong and is discouraged. I've heard of people who think spanking is child abuse, but no one really gave a specific reason why. I'm guessing it is from their observation on unreasonable or cruel examples of spanking that made them think that. Anyone here actually against spanking, so that we can have some type of a debate?

mrfe : You got that from the Bible Trivia sample question, did you?

play4fun : Nope. Well, the verse I got from your thread. XD See how much your quizzes are helping? lol

I'm starting to agree with you, I don't see anyone truly against spanking here atm.

play4fun :

Well I am against spanking. As a kid I got pulled by the hair a few times but that was it. According to local law these days, I think even that is now seen as child abuse. Let alone spanking.

I also understood that there are many ways you can spank a child. Meaning you don't necessarily have to spank the child until he or she bleeds.
But even the gentlest  forms of it can be humiliating to a child and can have a bad effect on his or hers psyche.

Why I did not get spanked myself I think is because both of my parents would get belted for even smallest things when they were kids and they tried to raise me in a different way. I had very strict rules and was definitely not allowed to do what I pleased. I might not have done all the right things later in life but getting spanked or abused as a child I believe I would have become even more angry and resentful. Or worse, bitter. Since I have seen many people in my life coming from home with physical abuse being how you would raise your kids and they also ended up pretty bad.

And I would also like to point out that not spanking or spanking your child would automatically make your kid a serial killer,  junkie... or a Brigand. But seriously, you are the parent and your word should be enough. If you have to resort to violence of any kind, then it is just a sign you did something wrong yourself in the first place.

mrfe : Yeah most people on here agree with spanking pretty much. Hopefully people who are against spanking speak up.

Brigand : Thank you for disagreeing with the majority.

Brigand : "not spanking or spanking your child would automatically make your kid a serial killer,  junkie... or a Brigand"
Did you mean "would not automatically"?

rcarter2 :

Well indeed, you all have to excuse me.

Oldschool41

Nothing to be thankful about, it is just my opinion.

But anyone disagreeing with me gets a studded leather belt across the face. And your brats will get it too.

When Raising Kids?
If words were enough?
Spanking would have been abandoned long ago.
Just an Opinion.
Just a thought.

Good Luck To All.
Peace.

Really, the only times I ever got hit was when I was violent, so i think hitting is apropriate as long as it's open hand and only one or MAYBE 2.

penzycubone :

What do you mean by being "sexual"?

Brigand : that was put in there by mistake.

That's a really awkward thing to put in there by mistake, lolololololol

Like I said, without your parents, you would die so you are their property. They can do what ever they want to do to you as long as it is legal. 

Barathemos :

I resent the word "property".

Barathemos : No human can be classed as property by law, even when you die you cannot be classed as property.

On topic : You can clearly see how children now are so cheeky and arrogant, They weren't spanked and obviously a verbal lesson doesn't effect them. A proper spanking is necessary. I was spanked as a child and I came out better than what they did....
Spanking +1, Non-Spank -1.

I just read the question, and now my bottom hurts because of it. It definitely brings back quite a few painful memories of my extremely big dad laying down the law with his hand or a rather thick paddle, depending on the offense. I was most definitely spanked, and while I don't particularly enjoy thinking about the memories of being spanked, I am definitely glad that I went through it at the time. Why? Let me tell you.

My dad is about 6'3, over 300 pounds, and is a former Navy man who works 60-70 hours a week making sure our area has cell phone coverage. That being said, he and mom (also former Navy, that's how they met) used to have nothing. I mean, they were dirt poor. Mom had four of us and had to leave the military, so she got a job working at a grocery store at $5.15 an hour to try to support us. She had to get federal assistance in the form of WIC for a while, and though it embarrassed her to no end, she had to do what she had to do for us to be adequately fed and for us to have a place to live. Except for the youngest (who was one of two fraternal twins), my brothers and I rarely got along. Dad stayed in the military until I was about nine, and so he wasn't around that often. Even after he left and started working for Ericsson's (prior to Sony acquiring the company), he could only be around us during the weekends. As a result, my brothers and I fought... a lot. And it only got worse as we kept changing schools. Our mom is barely 5'0 tall, and the time came for us to be too big for her to handle us. So Dad had to get involved, and when he was around, you can bet we weren't fighting.

We moved again when he got a different job, and we'd continue to fight when he wasn't home. Little did we realize that with his new job brought a new presence during the week - Dad himself - and once mom went to him about us fighting, the fighting stopped because he busted out that paddle and let us know he meant business.

Dad also had a way of getting the truth out of us. This is where I am especially thankful that he spanked us, because it's literally been ingrained in my head to tell the truth. Something would go missing. Something was broken. He asked us who did it, but nobody would tell. So he would line us up. "Nobody would be in trouble if you would just tell the truth," he'd say, "but since someone doesn't want to tell it, I'm going to paddle all of you until I get it out." So he'd ask the question and we would all deny it, and he would spank us one by one. At first it wouldn't hurt, but you get sensitive after a while, so it got very painful. And we'd cry, a lot. Eventually, the one who did the deed would be found out - and that person would NEVER be me (important for later!) and he would be sent to his room for the night while the rest of us were apologized to and given some form of treat to make amends for being punished. We all understood why he did it, and even though it sucked, it really made life better for me. I never was the one who lied, so he started excluding me out of the paddling rounds, saving me a lot of trouble but also making me realize just how unfair it was to lie, especially when the well-being or the comfort of others were at stake. As a result, I really don't tell lies as much as I can help it, and I'm very thankful for that.

Another thing about Dad's methods. Because he and mom started off very poor, when they finally obtained money and she got a college degree, they started buying nice things. We were around the age to where we were wild (or in my case, clumsy), and I was dealing with bullies in school, so I often broke things in the house out of rage or just being clumsy. Dad would lay into me pretty hard for that, because he understood the value of money. I never realized it was his blood, sweat, and tears that paid for those things, not just a mysterious green piece of paper that materialized out of thin air, or a small piece of plastic that he pulled out of his wallet, so I didn't really care about breaking his stuff, except for the fact that with something broken came the punishment. I'm thankful for this, because I don't go around breaking anything (particularly because I don't have anger problems). It's also the fact that I understand the value of money now that helps me to not hold a grudge on my father, especially because he was so much harder on me than he was my brothers (with the exception of the lying thing I said before).

But with his growing older comes him not being as consistent in his punishment as he once was. Once I got out of spanking age, he started spanking my brothers less, and really, punishing them less. And since I have moved out, now all he does is lecture them. With the exception of the youngest once again (who is in the military now), the other two are really screwed up. Neither of them appreciate money - they blow it like it's nothing - and they don't care when something in the house is messed up. One of my brothers drinks excessively and smokes, a lot of times leaving his things in places or getting ashes on the vehicles (got them on my old white truck one day, I wasn't happy about that). The other one closet-drinks (because he is under-age) and does chewing tobacco, leaving all of his dip cans and his dip bottles everywhere. It's really sad, but I think that had Dad followed through like he did with me, things would be different.

All that to say, I'm not blaming him for the problems with my brother. I think that my depression really caused a lot of the issues that they deal with now, because I was pretty darn cruel to them when I was going through that stage. Nor do I think my dad's methods were perfect, by any means. They caused animosity between the two of us for a long time, though we have both seemed to move on from the past. Because along with spanking (which I am absolutely for), he would take it a step further, pushing me and once even punching me in the face (the one and only time it ever happened). Life was stressful then, and what he did was wrong, but I wouldn't take it back. Ultimately, I became stronger once I could face the fact that my actions weren't right, either.

That's a bit of history behind why I am an advocate for spanking, though. I think that form of punishment could be a real deterrent from doing wrong, and wrong seems to be what most of society is interested in doing nowadays. I've learned that one of the best ways for people to act is expose them to pain, to make them uncomfortable. The same can be true when they are doing something that hosts an unfavorable set of habits, or something that is wrong. I do exercise caution, however, because I do not think it is okay for a person to spank a child just because he is annoying. Spanking should be reserved to reverse a set of bad habits (ones that are detrimental to the child's overall health) or to let a child know that whatever he or she is doing is absolutely wrong. With few exceptions (none that I can think of off the top of my head) should spanking be used as a form of punishment. And I also think spanking should be followed up with a conversation as to why they got spanked, leading the child to answer the question as to why it happened as opposed to the parent just telling them. This is something my dad did very well with me but not so much with my other brothers, which is why I don't act out like they do.

iN008 : I don't know how to say it differently. Maybe I should put it in air quotes. I don't mean it like the whole, " Slaves are our property" thing.