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Louisiana Petitioning to Withdraw from the United States. UPDATED
11-11-12 10:56 PM
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There hasn't been much talk about this yet, so all I can really provide is the link above. As much as I didn't want Obama reelected, I have little reason to believe this petition will do anything. UPDATE: Apparently there are more states than just Louisiana and Texas. There is now a at least 20 states doing this. Link to a new article below. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548572/states-petition-to-secede-from- There hasn't been much talk about this yet, so all I can really provide is the link above. As much as I didn't want Obama reelected, I have little reason to believe this petition will do anything. UPDATE: Apparently there are more states than just Louisiana and Texas. There is now a at least 20 states doing this. Link to a new article below. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548572/states-petition-to-secede-from- |
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11-12-12 05:27 AM
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only wanting 25k signatures?
Thats the most half a***'d independence attempt iv seen. They quoted a lot of stuff that dosent even have any relevance too... Thats the most half a***'d independence attempt iv seen. They quoted a lot of stuff that dosent even have any relevance too... |
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Seriously, some people just need to learn to stop being a bunch of whiny babies when something doesn't go their way. A DEMOCRACY means that you live with the decisions that the people as a whole decide. It doesn't mean we live how you want to live and you just decide to cry and leave if you don't get your way. Those people need to reevaluate what it means to live in America. Thing is, this isn't the only state to do this. Texas is another, but this isn't the first time we have heard this crap from Texas. Now, what exactly do they expect to happen? For the Government to officially make them their own country? They don't have an army, foreign relations, they don't have ANYTHING to get them established with foreign trade to keep up with technology. They couldn't live as their own domain. I actually need a good laugh. Let them do this. Then we will see how long it takes them to see they can't survive as a separate domain and watch them come crawling back crying. Now, what exactly do they expect to happen? For the Government to officially make them their own country? They don't have an army, foreign relations, they don't have ANYTHING to get them established with foreign trade to keep up with technology. They couldn't live as their own domain. I actually need a good laugh. Let them do this. Then we will see how long it takes them to see they can't survive as a separate domain and watch them come crawling back crying. |
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Well. They have their heart in the right place... but RCarter is right about the lack of them having anything to support themselves with.
thenumberone : rcarter2 : It is definitely one of the crappier attempts, but it won't be the last, and they'll slowly keep getting stronger and more demanding. [And probably not just from Louisiana] It might be called a democracy, but the Constitution that was created to protect the people is no longer the Constitution that is used. Bills have been passed that directly and indirectly break rules of the Constitution. I'm not surprised to see this occurring; our economy is failing, our government is corrupted... May not be in our lifetimes, but the foundations of Government is crumbling and so will Government itself. People are starting to realize this. This is not the first attempt that I've seen where people have decided that it is time to overhaul this Government and re-write it. When the Government first started going against the Constitution, it was time for the People to step in and stomp on it. It took the People awhile to realize it, but they are starting to. The Government is no longer for the People, of the People, or by the People. It stopped being that when it started to go against the Constitution. So what was quoted was not as out there as you believe. The first paragraph quoted the line from the Constitution that demands a reason to be stated for wishing to withdraw from the US. The second paragraph is the "reason" - that the person who created the Petition has decided what many other people are figuring out for themselves. thenumberone : rcarter2 : It is definitely one of the crappier attempts, but it won't be the last, and they'll slowly keep getting stronger and more demanding. [And probably not just from Louisiana] It might be called a democracy, but the Constitution that was created to protect the people is no longer the Constitution that is used. Bills have been passed that directly and indirectly break rules of the Constitution. I'm not surprised to see this occurring; our economy is failing, our government is corrupted... May not be in our lifetimes, but the foundations of Government is crumbling and so will Government itself. People are starting to realize this. This is not the first attempt that I've seen where people have decided that it is time to overhaul this Government and re-write it. When the Government first started going against the Constitution, it was time for the People to step in and stomp on it. It took the People awhile to realize it, but they are starting to. The Government is no longer for the People, of the People, or by the People. It stopped being that when it started to go against the Constitution. So what was quoted was not as out there as you believe. The first paragraph quoted the line from the Constitution that demands a reason to be stated for wishing to withdraw from the US. The second paragraph is the "reason" - that the person who created the Petition has decided what many other people are figuring out for themselves. |
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Well. They have their heart in the right place... but RCarter is right about the lack of them having anything to support themselves with.
thenumberone : rcarter2 : It is definitely one of the crappier attempts, but it won't be the last, and they'll slowly keep getting stronger and more demanding. [And probably not just from Louisiana] It might be called a democracy, but the Constitution that was created to protect the people is no longer the Constitution that is used. Bills have been passed that directly and indirectly break rules of the Constitution. I'm not surprised to see this occurring; our economy is failing, our government is corrupted... May not be in our lifetimes, but the foundations of Government is crumbling and so will Government itself. People are starting to realize this. This is not the first attempt that I've seen where people have decided that it is time to overhaul this Government and re-write it. When the Government first started going against the Constitution, it was time for the People to step in and stomp on it. It took the People awhile to realize it, but they are starting to. The Government is no longer for the People, of the People, or by the People. It stopped being that when it started to go against the Constitution. So what was quoted was not as out there as you believe. The first paragraph quoted the line from the Constitution that demands a reason to be stated for wishing to withdraw from the US. The second paragraph is the "reason" - that the person who created the Petition has decided what many other people are figuring out for themselves. thenumberone : rcarter2 : It is definitely one of the crappier attempts, but it won't be the last, and they'll slowly keep getting stronger and more demanding. [And probably not just from Louisiana] It might be called a democracy, but the Constitution that was created to protect the people is no longer the Constitution that is used. Bills have been passed that directly and indirectly break rules of the Constitution. I'm not surprised to see this occurring; our economy is failing, our government is corrupted... May not be in our lifetimes, but the foundations of Government is crumbling and so will Government itself. People are starting to realize this. This is not the first attempt that I've seen where people have decided that it is time to overhaul this Government and re-write it. When the Government first started going against the Constitution, it was time for the People to step in and stomp on it. It took the People awhile to realize it, but they are starting to. The Government is no longer for the People, of the People, or by the People. It stopped being that when it started to go against the Constitution. So what was quoted was not as out there as you believe. The first paragraph quoted the line from the Constitution that demands a reason to be stated for wishing to withdraw from the US. The second paragraph is the "reason" - that the person who created the Petition has decided what many other people are figuring out for themselves. |
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Hah, are they serious? I've always had a bit of hate for those southern states, but this just makes it so much more amusing. Let them, it'll be fun to watch them all die off quickly and effectively. Hopefully, if this is allowed, they will be a great example of how ignorance is only going to kill yourself.
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Ktanaqui : I don't really see how their hearts are in the right place. They are throwing a hissy fit because they weren't on the majority side. I see them as whiny babies. Not that I see this getting stronger like you said it would. Texas has done this more than once, and nothing ever came from it. I mean, even if they did get 25,000 signatures, I honestly don't think it will make any difference given that is less than 5% of the entire Louisiana population. The government isn't going to just let Louisiana separate itself from the US just because less than 5% don't know the consequences of it and sign some petition. There are still at a few million people who can suck it up, be mature, and want to stay a part of the United States. Would they have to leave their homes to be US Citizens if they did let Louisiana separate? I don't think so. |
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Actually, if you check the Whitehouse Petition page, it looks like a group of people decided to get together and make a few identical petitions for the exact same thing from different states. Nothing is going to come from this particular set.
However, it will eventually actually become a problem. (A lot of people who care, I doubt will actually sign these.) However, it will eventually actually become a problem. (A lot of people who care, I doubt will actually sign these.) |
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AuraBlaze : I personally think that something like this is sad. Louisiana is in the country regardless of whether it’s actually a part of the United States. Is the person or persons’ behind this petition really expect to accomplish anything out of this? Suppose if something like this did happen what are the people in Louisiana suppose to do move to another state so that the land currently known as the state of Louisiana can become vacant? There’s no logic at all.
I can understand the feelings of some post-election; I myself did not vote and have not voted in any election since 2004. I think it is at minimum sour grapes for one to come up with an idea like this simply because they did not get what they wanted in the election. I myself didn’t really see an upside this time around. The way I see it was no matter whom was elected the bickering back and forth between the two predominant political parties with very slow accomplishment was and is probably likely to continue. It’s sad that those who are in positions of power will not focus on what needs to be done to get the country back on it’s feet in an adequate fashion. I’m sure there are those on both sides who are very well meaning and only want to do the best for the country however, the mere model of it’s “Us vs. Them†that our political system conducts itself on doesn’t really speak well in terms of progress when things really need to happen in order to move the country forward in a way where jobs are created, the deficit goes down, people by numbers are given jobs and are able to find some semblance of job and or financial security. No matter who is in office whether that office be on the federal, state, or, local levels they need to put their differences aside for the greater good of the country. They need to do the jobs that they were elected to do. I don’t know if the political system as a whole needs to be reinvented but it’s clear that things are not really going well with the way things have been and things need to happen to turn things around. I hold out hope that one day we will see things turn around but I am realistic and realize that it won’t happen overnight and it won’t happen in eight years. It takes time and with the two sides of the political arena constantly divided it will take longer because division stalls progress. It also doesn’t help when any progress is actually made that it isn’t adequately reported by mainstream media due in large part to political interests. This is why when ever election season takes place you see political ads saturated all over any form of media that blurs the lines between fact and fabrication. At least that’s the way I see it. I can understand the feelings of some post-election; I myself did not vote and have not voted in any election since 2004. I think it is at minimum sour grapes for one to come up with an idea like this simply because they did not get what they wanted in the election. I myself didn’t really see an upside this time around. The way I see it was no matter whom was elected the bickering back and forth between the two predominant political parties with very slow accomplishment was and is probably likely to continue. It’s sad that those who are in positions of power will not focus on what needs to be done to get the country back on it’s feet in an adequate fashion. I’m sure there are those on both sides who are very well meaning and only want to do the best for the country however, the mere model of it’s “Us vs. Them†that our political system conducts itself on doesn’t really speak well in terms of progress when things really need to happen in order to move the country forward in a way where jobs are created, the deficit goes down, people by numbers are given jobs and are able to find some semblance of job and or financial security. No matter who is in office whether that office be on the federal, state, or, local levels they need to put their differences aside for the greater good of the country. They need to do the jobs that they were elected to do. I don’t know if the political system as a whole needs to be reinvented but it’s clear that things are not really going well with the way things have been and things need to happen to turn things around. I hold out hope that one day we will see things turn around but I am realistic and realize that it won’t happen overnight and it won’t happen in eight years. It takes time and with the two sides of the political arena constantly divided it will take longer because division stalls progress. It also doesn’t help when any progress is actually made that it isn’t adequately reported by mainstream media due in large part to political interests. This is why when ever election season takes place you see political ads saturated all over any form of media that blurs the lines between fact and fabrication. At least that’s the way I see it. |
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Wow. Anyone want to say American Civil War Part 2? On a serious note. I find it hard to believe that just 25,000 signatures would be suficient enough to say that Louisiana would separte themselfs. I have 2 issues with this... 1. Louisiana is in now way shape or form in prime economic condition to decide to become its own country. If the people from Louisiana are complaing about the taxes they have now, just wait until they leave the 2. Let us say that Louisiana does leave the Its one thing to critize the government who you didn't want elected, its another thing to leave the government all together. If this even has the slightest chance of happening I hope that President Obama gives the old Andrew Jackson approach to South Carolina's sucession claims by "hanging the sucessionalists from the first tree that he spots in South Carolina." Wow. Anyone want to say American Civil War Part 2? On a serious note. I find it hard to believe that just 25,000 signatures would be suficient enough to say that Louisiana would separte themselfs. I have 2 issues with this... 1. Louisiana is in now way shape or form in prime economic condition to decide to become its own country. If the people from Louisiana are complaing about the taxes they have now, just wait until they leave the 2. Let us say that Louisiana does leave the Its one thing to critize the government who you didn't want elected, its another thing to leave the government all together. If this even has the slightest chance of happening I hope that President Obama gives the old Andrew Jackson approach to South Carolina's sucession claims by "hanging the sucessionalists from the first tree that he spots in South Carolina." |
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So, when the Democrats lose and are bitter about it, they threaten to move to Canada... when the Republicans lose and are bitter, they want to secede? I mean, if they want to leave, let them leave... but don't try to steal away the homes of those people that want to stay in the It would be funny if they tried and realized they don't have the infrastructure or economic power to actually survive. Even California couldn't do it, even though they have the economic power to do it... the states are too interconnected for secession to actually work. It would be funny if they tried and realized they don't have the infrastructure or economic power to actually survive. Even California couldn't do it, even though they have the economic power to do it... the states are too interconnected for secession to actually work. |
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Elara :
I think it's kind of funny, because not only Louisianna is doing it. It's also Texas, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear other traditionally conservative states are joining in. I think it's kind of funny, because not only Louisianna is doing it. It's also Texas, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear other traditionally conservative states are joining in. |
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Elara : Well, California can't do it because they depend on the government to stay alive. This is crazy though. Why do they want to leave anyway? Is it because of Obama, or has this been going on for a while? |
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Oldschool41 : Naw. Getting 25,000 signatures is not sufficient enough to say that Louisiana can separate themselves, so your doubts are pretty much spot on. Getting 25,000 signatures is sufficient for a government branch to have to technically "look" at it. Doesn't mean they have to take it even the least bit seriously or even really discuss it. As long as they can say they "looked at it", they did all they need to do. |
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