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tRIUNE :

Think about this. Would it be possible to add a system(s) for user-created games? I know GameMaker is fairly common and I'm gradually learning Kodu. The files aren't that big and it might be good for Vizzed to have some original games.

It would also be good for programming majors (maybe get more users to register). If I make a simplistic game on Kodu and it gets put up here, then a lot of people may play it and enjoy it. It would make the programmer's resume look a lot nicer if the game they made got good reception on a popular videogame-themed site.

So it would be amusing and possibly help Vizzed expand to a specific audience in addition to the current one.
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Think about this. Would it be possible to add a system(s) for user-created games? I know GameMaker is fairly common and I'm gradually learning Kodu. The files aren't that big and it might be good for Vizzed to have some original games.

It would also be good for programming majors (maybe get more users to register). If I make a simplistic game on Kodu and it gets put up here, then a lot of people may play it and enjoy it. It would make the programmer's resume look a lot nicer if the game they made got good reception on a popular videogame-themed site.

So it would be amusing and possibly help Vizzed expand to a specific audience in addition to the current one.
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Yeah I could upload games like that, but David would have write the code to host them. Might want to ask him.
Yeah I could upload games like that, but David would have write the code to host them. Might want to ask him.
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Davideo7 :

Thoughts? See the first post rather than having me copy/paste it.
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Thoughts? See the first post rather than having me copy/paste it.
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That would be awesome if he could manage it. I work in Game Maker but I don't get very far because of various reasons. Perhaps the potential to show off my games on Vizzed would give me more motivation to work on them.
That would be awesome if he could manage it. I work in Game Maker but I don't get very far because of various reasons. Perhaps the potential to show off my games on Vizzed would give me more motivation to work on them.
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BNuge : Are these games that are playable in the browser? For the time being I want to focus on having games that are playable in the browser.

In the future though I might consider expanding the site to have downloadable user created games made with programs such as Game Maker and all the various RPG Makers.
BNuge : Are these games that are playable in the browser? For the time being I want to focus on having games that are playable in the browser.

In the future though I might consider expanding the site to have downloadable user created games made with programs such as Game Maker and all the various RPG Makers.
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tRIUNE : I think it would be more prudent to ask tom760, since he writes the RGR plugin.
tRIUNE : I think it would be more prudent to ask tom760, since he writes the RGR plugin.
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Lazlo Falconi : I wasn't leaning towards an RGR Plugin update for this though.

Davideo7 : There are 2 ways that I know of that will allow GameMaker games to be played in a browser. One would require the games to be either converted to or created using GameMaker HTML5. I don't know from experience how it's embedded, but there are some examples here by clicking the Play Now HTML5:
http://www.yoyogames.com/game_showcases?game_format=3

Here's an example of how it would work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMHhPrB0Ep8

The other option I'm not sure if you'd want to do but the games can be uploaded to Fridday13Games database, then can be played on your own site:
http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=517733

Lazlo Falconi : I wasn't leaning towards an RGR Plugin update for this though.

Davideo7 : There are 2 ways that I know of that will allow GameMaker games to be played in a browser. One would require the games to be either converted to or created using GameMaker HTML5. I don't know from experience how it's embedded, but there are some examples here by clicking the Play Now HTML5:
http://www.yoyogames.com/game_showcases?game_format=3

Here's an example of how it would work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMHhPrB0Ep8

The other option I'm not sure if you'd want to do but the games can be uploaded to Fridday13Games database, then can be played on your own site:
http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=517733

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BNuge :

I have one question on your suggestion. How do you suggest we moderate the games put on site? Obviously we can't have one person play all the games to check for dirty content, and we can't just host content like that.

Do you plan on having staff play the game to see if the game meets the standards of decency?
BNuge :

I have one question on your suggestion. How do you suggest we moderate the games put on site? Obviously we can't have one person play all the games to check for dirty content, and we can't just host content like that.

Do you plan on having staff play the game to see if the game meets the standards of decency?
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Maybe you could open a position for user game screening? That is, unless you feel you already have too many staff positions as it is. Just tossing out ideas here.

Another possibility is to only allow uploads by Trusted Members or above status (as much as that idea goes against me).
Maybe you could open a position for user game screening? That is, unless you feel you already have too many staff positions as it is. Just tossing out ideas here.

Another possibility is to only allow uploads by Trusted Members or above status (as much as that idea goes against me).
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tRIUNE : It's a very cool concept but I couldn't get it to work. The games on that site didn't work for me.


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Maybe I'd let the users do the screening. There'd be a section with "games waiting for approval" and users can either approve a game or disapprove. If a game gets 5 disapproval, than it gets removed from the pending list but if it gets 5 approvals, it gets added to the site's game collection. Just idea since I wouldn't want to rely on a single staff member to test out every game, especially since a lot of site staff members in the past have slacked off or have stopped doing their task without letting me know.
tRIUNE : It's a very cool concept but I couldn't get it to work. The games on that site didn't work for me.


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legacyme3 :

Maybe I'd let the users do the screening. There'd be a section with "games waiting for approval" and users can either approve a game or disapprove. If a game gets 5 disapproval, than it gets removed from the pending list but if it gets 5 approvals, it gets added to the site's game collection. Just idea since I wouldn't want to rely on a single staff member to test out every game, especially since a lot of site staff members in the past have slacked off or have stopped doing their task without letting me know.
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Davideo7 :

But who do you allow to screen games?

If you leave it to the member base, I'd think that someone would re-register 5 times on separate proxies in order to push their own game through, or do the same to get rid of one game they themself didn't like, even if it was a good game.

It's a big possibility that it would be abused. Would we just limit it to trusteds+ as much as I think there need to be less of them?
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But who do you allow to screen games?

If you leave it to the member base, I'd think that someone would re-register 5 times on separate proxies in order to push their own game through, or do the same to get rid of one game they themself didn't like, even if it was a good game.

It's a big possibility that it would be abused. Would we just limit it to trusteds+ as much as I think there need to be less of them?
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legacyme3 : Either normal users or trusted users would be able to, not sure. 5 might not even be the number either, it's something I'll put more thought into in the future. If Game Maker games can be played in the browser with no problem than I'd love to add them to the site (that might even motivate me to get back into game maker).
legacyme3 : Either normal users or trusted users would be able to, not sure. 5 might not even be the number either, it's something I'll put more thought into in the future. If Game Maker games can be played in the browser with no problem than I'd love to add them to the site (that might even motivate me to get back into game maker).
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This is a really good idea. I love playing games that are made from new game developers. And it would even help make a lot more fun and never played games for the netplay feature.
This is a really good idea. I love playing games that are made from new game developers. And it would even help make a lot more fun and never played games for the netplay feature.
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Davideo7 : I think this is a solid idea. Though if anyone can freely play these games while they're in Pending status, what's the difference between Pending and Game list other than in the former, it can be removed if disapproved enough?

If there isn't a difference, another way to do things is to just have the ability for users to flag a game as inappropriate at any time and then this would notify you and anyone else you choose to be in charge of this and they can investigate the game to see if it's really inappropriate and take the proper action. Though I know sure if this creates too much work for you. I don't know how many false alarms you would possibly get.
Davideo7 : I think this is a solid idea. Though if anyone can freely play these games while they're in Pending status, what's the difference between Pending and Game list other than in the former, it can be removed if disapproved enough?

If there isn't a difference, another way to do things is to just have the ability for users to flag a game as inappropriate at any time and then this would notify you and anyone else you choose to be in charge of this and they can investigate the game to see if it's really inappropriate and take the proper action. Though I know sure if this creates too much work for you. I don't know how many false alarms you would possibly get.
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legacyme3 :
Davideo7 :

Yeah I'd think some people need to test it. I'd lean more towards adding that to the list of stuff that the RGR Staff deal with. Maybe hire some RGR Staff members for that specific purpose with a set age minimum.

Any user who is RGR Staff or higher would have the authority to activate a game after they test it and decide it's okay. It would still be subject to being removed if someone else finds something inappropriate.

I'd also advise limiting the number of uploads a user can do per day. Newbies and Normal users get one. Trusted get two or three. Elite+ gets 4. Anyone uploading more than 4 games a day has way too much free time.


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To be fair, we already have a few Pokémon hacks that are loaded with swears.
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Davideo7 :

Yeah I'd think some people need to test it. I'd lean more towards adding that to the list of stuff that the RGR Staff deal with. Maybe hire some RGR Staff members for that specific purpose with a set age minimum.

Any user who is RGR Staff or higher would have the authority to activate a game after they test it and decide it's okay. It would still be subject to being removed if someone else finds something inappropriate.

I'd also advise limiting the number of uploads a user can do per day. Newbies and Normal users get one. Trusted get two or three. Elite+ gets 4. Anyone uploading more than 4 games a day has way too much free time.


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To be fair, we already have a few Pokémon hacks that are loaded with swears.
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BNuge :

And some of them shouldn't exist either.

I won't delete games because it's not my job to, but I've seen my share of inappropriate pokemon games.
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And some of them shouldn't exist either.

I won't delete games because it's not my job to, but I've seen my share of inappropriate pokemon games.
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Crazy Li : Pending games will only be available from a single page while the approved games can be searchable similar to how you can search for RGR games. In other words, you wont have any search features when looking for pending games.

I'll also let users flag games too.

BNuge : I would have the RGR staff deal with it but I already know that wont work out, it's hard to get users to focus on a specific task for a long time. Eventually they lose interest and don't let me know that they've quit doing their job and I find out months later and than gotta spend a week or so replacing them and in the end, I'm months behind schedule.
Crazy Li : Pending games will only be available from a single page while the approved games can be searchable similar to how you can search for RGR games. In other words, you wont have any search features when looking for pending games.

I'll also let users flag games too.

BNuge : I would have the RGR staff deal with it but I already know that wont work out, it's hard to get users to focus on a specific task for a long time. Eventually they lose interest and don't let me know that they've quit doing their job and I find out months later and than gotta spend a week or so replacing them and in the end, I'm months behind schedule.
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Davideo7 : I'm curious as to you saying that the games wouldn't work for you - I made a test website with weebly and embedded a game with the extension .exe and it is full operational, also it works with the extensions .jar, .bat, .com, or .mbd
Davideo7 : I'm curious as to you saying that the games wouldn't work for you - I made a test website with weebly and embedded a game with the extension .exe and it is full operational, also it works with the extensions .jar, .bat, .com, or .mbd
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tRIUNE : It takes a few refreshes of the game pages before it'll work. Also I noticed that there's no sound.

Could you show me an example of a test website that you got it working on?
tRIUNE : It takes a few refreshes of the game pages before it'll work. Also I noticed that there's no sound.

Could you show me an example of a test website that you got it working on?
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Davide07: I had it working on a test website which I activated, but the game which was previously working on that site is not working now.

I had a question about this actually, and I'll just PM you when I have it ready; I don't want to publicly discusss it.

Look for a PM from me titled TEST.
Davide07: I had it working on a test website which I activated, but the game which was previously working on that site is not working now.

I had a question about this actually, and I'll just PM you when I have it ready; I don't want to publicly discusss it.

Look for a PM from me titled TEST.
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