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10-19-11 01:45 PM
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Juliet : I guess it would, but how many elites have actually gone that route?

I see that that might be a problem potentially.... but if they don't want the RGR spot because of that then so be it
Juliet : I guess it would, but how many elites have actually gone that route?

I see that that might be a problem potentially.... but if they don't want the RGR spot because of that then so be it
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if david did it so that all normal members had there set amount of votes, then manually put in the mods, elites etc, (or you, youre admin after all)then the only way the points would change is if someone manually changed it.
you could have it so that points can only increase, not decrease, so if someone had there rank decrease, that would be done manually anyway and you could take the points too.
you could also make it so you can be staff and elite.

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if david did it so that all normal members had there set amount of votes, then manually put in the mods, elites etc, (or you, youre admin after all)then the only way the points would change is if someone manually changed it.
you could have it so that points can only increase, not decrease, so if someone had there rank decrease, that would be done manually anyway and you could take the points too.
you could also make it so you can be staff and elite.

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"you could have it so that points can only increase, not decrease"

or, we could make it so only globals+ or locals+ could give negative votes.

There are lots of options. I don't want to lose the ability to down vote though. Not completely.
"you could have it so that points can only increase, not decrease"

or, we could make it so only globals+ or locals+ could give negative votes.

There are lots of options. I don't want to lose the ability to down vote though. Not completely.
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I believe it might be best if we keep non-staff members (aside from Elites) from giving points at all to prevent abuse. While it is true that nearly anyone can become Site Staff to help around the RGR, it would still be relatively easy to track what they do (I assume)--including giving trust points. As we already know, Trusted Members can earn their ability to give others points too easily. If they are able to give anyone points, they could still go around asking others for trust points and give other the rank of trusted --even if trusted members can only give one point each. Does this make sense? I know I said this before, but I am willing to surrender the ability to vote on other members if it means the power will be placed in the hands of those who have accountability.
I believe it might be best if we keep non-staff members (aside from Elites) from giving points at all to prevent abuse. While it is true that nearly anyone can become Site Staff to help around the RGR, it would still be relatively easy to track what they do (I assume)--including giving trust points. As we already know, Trusted Members can earn their ability to give others points too easily. If they are able to give anyone points, they could still go around asking others for trust points and give other the rank of trusted --even if trusted members can only give one point each. Does this make sense? I know I said this before, but I am willing to surrender the ability to vote on other members if it means the power will be placed in the hands of those who have accountability.
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AuraBlaze : that is something I am considering doing. However putting the decision in the hands of 25 people rather than 50-100 will limit how many people become trusted members. And on a site this big I would prefer that the trusted members had some say in who is or isn't a trusted member. Still, the system is not set in stone so this could change at any time.
AuraBlaze : that is something I am considering doing. However putting the decision in the hands of 25 people rather than 50-100 will limit how many people become trusted members. And on a site this big I would prefer that the trusted members had some say in who is or isn't a trusted member. Still, the system is not set in stone so this could change at any time.
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When i was talking about the amount of points not being able to decrease,i meant the amount you could add or subtract,so if an elite became a rgr staff there points wouldnt change.
If they became global,there point add/negative would increase.if they resign/are removed then who ever changes there position can lower there point add/minus ability.
When i was talking about the amount of points not being able to decrease,i meant the amount you could add or subtract,so if an elite became a rgr staff there points wouldnt change.
If they became global,there point add/negative would increase.if they resign/are removed then who ever changes there position can lower there point add/minus ability.
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I'm enjoying the current change, but here's my suggestion.

I know I've said this before, but hear me out.

I think local moderators+ should be responsible for TP use. All would be given a certain power, and you'd need to look good to a good amount of staff to be trusted.

This may seem odd, but I think TP distribution should also become a staff job in this scenario, so that TP is being given out, but not by the truckload.
I'm enjoying the current change, but here's my suggestion.

I know I've said this before, but hear me out.

I think local moderators+ should be responsible for TP use. All would be given a certain power, and you'd need to look good to a good amount of staff to be trusted.

This may seem odd, but I think TP distribution should also become a staff job in this scenario, so that TP is being given out, but not by the truckload.
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Good thing you did this.  I have not seen this from a lot of people, but this is a good thing to do to prevent this issue from happening.  Good thinking.  Hope this works out.
Good thing you did this.  I have not seen this from a lot of people, but this is a good thing to do to prevent this issue from happening.  Good thinking.  Hope this works out.
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Hold On Hold On! Im Still Trusted! I Dont Think Its Fair On Other People... Maybe You Should Take Away My Trust Status?
Hold On Hold On! Im Still Trusted! I Dont Think Its Fair On Other People... Maybe You Should Take Away My Trust Status?
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drago : I can if you really want me to but if you managed to stay trusted I don't see why you should lose it
drago : I can if you really want me to but if you managed to stay trusted I don't see why you should lose it
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drago :

I think it's perfectly fair on the other hand.

You had enough TP to stay trusted despite the change. That means you can be called a trusted member.

Not a lot of people lost trusted status, so really you shouldn't feel too bad for them. Odds are they will hit 10 TP sooner or later =)
drago :

I think it's perfectly fair on the other hand.

You had enough TP to stay trusted despite the change. That means you can be called a trusted member.

Not a lot of people lost trusted status, so really you shouldn't feel too bad for them. Odds are they will hit 10 TP sooner or later =)
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legacyme3 : Ah Ok. I Just Thought It Wouldnt Be Fair. Sorry About That! 
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legacyme3 : Ah Ok. I Just Thought It Wouldnt Be Fair. Sorry About That! 
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I don't like this trust point system, everyone should be treated equally and just banished accordingly.

What are you all hiding ? Piracy ? It just does not feel necessary .
I don't like this trust point system, everyone should be treated equally and just banished accordingly.

What are you all hiding ? Piracy ? It just does not feel necessary .
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Trixie : You don't appear to understand what this "Trust Points" system is. Click on the link below, look through it and read about Trusted Members.

https://www.vizzed.com/boards/controlpanel.php?category=help&help=usernamesandpowerlevels

The reason we are discussing what kinds of changes ought to be made to the Trust Points system is because it has been abused, and we want this system to be fair. If you still do not understand something, feel free to ask.
Trixie : You don't appear to understand what this "Trust Points" system is. Click on the link below, look through it and read about Trusted Members.

https://www.vizzed.com/boards/controlpanel.php?category=help&help=usernamesandpowerlevels

The reason we are discussing what kinds of changes ought to be made to the Trust Points system is because it has been abused, and we want this system to be fair. If you still do not understand something, feel free to ask.
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I see it is a good idea but an annoying as well to people who aren't trusted like me
I see it is a good idea but an annoying as well to people who aren't trusted like me
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If a persons rating is 5 - 14, they can give a member a +1 or a -1 for points

If a persons rating is 15 - 24, they can give a member +2 or -2 for points

If a persons rating is 25 - 49, they can give a member +3 or -3 for points

If a persons rating is 50 - 99, they can give a member a rating of +4 or -4

If a persons rating is 100 or more, they can give a member a rating of +5 or -5

If a user is an admin they can give a member a rating of +10 or -10



Is the admin rating changed to a higher number or still the same
If a persons rating is 5 - 14, they can give a member a +1 or a -1 for points

If a persons rating is 15 - 24, they can give a member +2 or -2 for points

If a persons rating is 25 - 49, they can give a member +3 or -3 for points

If a persons rating is 50 - 99, they can give a member a rating of +4 or -4

If a persons rating is 100 or more, they can give a member a rating of +5 or -5

If a user is an admin they can give a member a rating of +10 or -10



Is the admin rating changed to a higher number or still the same
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I must say, after a couple months of this, I love it.

It's nice for not every member to be a trusted member.
I must say, after a couple months of this, I love it.

It's nice for not every member to be a trusted member.
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legacyme3 : there still a ton of trusted members with next to no activity though.
legacyme3 : there still a ton of trusted members with next to no activity though.
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thenumberone :

For me it's not about activity level. It's more about a user who is put at the level of respect where they become trusted.

It's because of this I can defend a user who is generally awesome but doesn't have a ton of activity over a user who may be active, but provides very little back to the community.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's nice to see the amount of trusteds decrease.
thenumberone :

For me it's not about activity level. It's more about a user who is put at the level of respect where they become trusted.

It's because of this I can defend a user who is generally awesome but doesn't have a ton of activity over a user who may be active, but provides very little back to the community.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's nice to see the amount of trusteds decrease.
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Thank you geeo! I worked really hard to become trusted...but like right when I did everyone became trusted! This new system should make sure noobs dont become trusted.
Thank you geeo! I worked really hard to become trusted...but like right when I did everyone became trusted! This new system should make sure noobs dont become trusted.
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