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08-12-11 05:44 AM
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What are you thoughts on animal cruelty? Honestly, I despise it! I don't see how anyone can be cruel to an animal. I don't think of animals as a lesser creature than me. They may not talk, but the have feelings and emotions like anyone else. They are living just like us. The only difference with animals, they are more loyal than any human, yet people treat them badly. It makes me sick!

I really want to know what you all think about this.
What are you thoughts on animal cruelty? Honestly, I despise it! I don't see how anyone can be cruel to an animal. I don't think of animals as a lesser creature than me. They may not talk, but the have feelings and emotions like anyone else. They are living just like us. The only difference with animals, they are more loyal than any human, yet people treat them badly. It makes me sick!

I really want to know what you all think about this.
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I am not sure there are many other answers than: It's terrible. 

This is like asking people what they think about rape or AIDS.  Although, in defense of animal cruelty, I would prefer testing on animals compared to humans as drugs are developed for the good of society.  Would you rather some mice suffer or some humans who volunteered for it?

I take the mice.  

But torturing and hurting animals for fun or for no reason?  Of course that's silly to support it.
I am not sure there are many other answers than: It's terrible. 

This is like asking people what they think about rape or AIDS.  Although, in defense of animal cruelty, I would prefer testing on animals compared to humans as drugs are developed for the good of society.  Would you rather some mice suffer or some humans who volunteered for it?

I take the mice.  

But torturing and hurting animals for fun or for no reason?  Of course that's silly to support it.
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like warmaker said,unless your twisted terrible would be the standard attitude.
like warmaker said,unless your twisted terrible would be the standard attitude.
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I also think animal cruelty is bad. Especially people experimenting on animals. They can do the experiments on themselves >.< Just, becuase animals don't have that much of a common sense that we have like sunflowergaming said they still have feelings and emotions.
I also think animal cruelty is bad. Especially people experimenting on animals. They can do the experiments on themselves >.< Just, becuase animals don't have that much of a common sense that we have like sunflowergaming said they still have feelings and emotions.
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It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that hundreds of pounds of meat from dead animals are all around me at every fast food restaurant and grocery store.

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that safari animals from africa are stuck in cages at local zoo's. What did they deserve to be put in prison for?

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that animal shelters stuff all kinds of animals in small cages filled with waste and if no one buys them within a certain time frame they will exterminate them.

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that I can turn on the TV and see dogs and cats taped to refrigerators and geese with arrows through their heads.

Can't be a hypocrite though cause I eat dead animals lol But hey I didn't kill it so not my fault. I don't put firecrackers in their mouths, lock them in cages or hunt them for fun and neither should anyone else.
It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that hundreds of pounds of meat from dead animals are all around me at every fast food restaurant and grocery store.

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that safari animals from africa are stuck in cages at local zoo's. What did they deserve to be put in prison for?

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that animal shelters stuff all kinds of animals in small cages filled with waste and if no one buys them within a certain time frame they will exterminate them.

It's hard to talk about animal cruelty knowing that I can turn on the TV and see dogs and cats taped to refrigerators and geese with arrows through their heads.

Can't be a hypocrite though cause I eat dead animals lol But hey I didn't kill it so not my fault. I don't put firecrackers in their mouths, lock them in cages or hunt them for fun and neither should anyone else.
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Animal cruelty is very unfortunate a thing. I have a neighbor who has been cruel to animals, so I can say I know it. Although I would like to ask someone here's definition of animal cruelty to give a more clear answer?
Animal cruelty is very unfortunate a thing. I have a neighbor who has been cruel to animals, so I can say I know it. Although I would like to ask someone here's definition of animal cruelty to give a more clear answer?
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I think animal cruelty is a terrible terrible thing...
Why would you want to harm your animal! I love my dog, I couldn't harm her
I think animal cruelty is a terrible terrible thing...
Why would you want to harm your animal! I love my dog, I couldn't harm her
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In my personal opinion.... animals are just as valuable a life as humans. Even experimenting on animals. I honestly don't agree with, but that's just my opinion. I don't think animals should be used just to give medicine to humans, it's like saying we're better than they are and to me that's not true. In fact, animals are probably better than us to be honest.
In my personal opinion.... animals are just as valuable a life as humans. Even experimenting on animals. I honestly don't agree with, but that's just my opinion. I don't think animals should be used just to give medicine to humans, it's like saying we're better than they are and to me that's not true. In fact, animals are probably better than us to be honest.
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I hate animal cruelty, just a few days ago someone showed me a video of a mouse on those sticky traps and they put lighter fluid and set it on fire and some people laughed at it. that was the worst thing i saw and i felt bad for watching it

but I will kill an animal just to survive
I hate animal cruelty, just a few days ago someone showed me a video of a mouse on those sticky traps and they put lighter fluid and set it on fire and some people laughed at it. that was the worst thing i saw and i felt bad for watching it

but I will kill an animal just to survive
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SunflowerGaming : So if we could develop medicine to save millions of humans, specifically ones you loved, by experimenting on animals, you'd still say no?

SunflowerGaming : So if we could develop medicine to save millions of humans, specifically ones you loved, by experimenting on animals, you'd still say no?

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Yeah I also hate animal cruelty, it is like taking out ourselves, really, since we evolved from animals. So, its like we are killing ourselves really. I hate those people that take out animals out of spite.
Yeah I also hate animal cruelty, it is like taking out ourselves, really, since we evolved from animals. So, its like we are killing ourselves really. I hate those people that take out animals out of spite.
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warmaker : Honestly, why should an innocent animal possibly die for humans, when they are more loyal than any human. My opinion is just that, my opinion, and I don't think you should try to change it because you don't agree with it. So yeah, I would still say no because man can't rely on man to cure ailments. But that's another topic all together.
warmaker : Honestly, why should an innocent animal possibly die for humans, when they are more loyal than any human. My opinion is just that, my opinion, and I don't think you should try to change it because you don't agree with it. So yeah, I would still say no because man can't rely on man to cure ailments. But that's another topic all together.
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SunflowerGaming : I'm not trying to change your opinion.  You feel how you feel and that's the end of that.  I have no reason or point to make you feel otherwise.  I disagree with the definition we're using for animal cruelty.

I'm just curious how tall you stand on the issue.  I'm glad we've tested on animals in the past.  Medicine and surgery to combat cancer, AIDS, and eradicate diseases have been developed by animal testing.  Techniques to fix humans have been done by using animals.  Experimenting on humans is unlikely to happen as much and we've created a world with a higher quality of life and a longer life expectancy because of animal testing.


But you originally asked about cruelty to animals and not testing on animals.  I think they are two seperate and distinct activities.  Cruelty to animals is setting fire to a dog for no reason.  Animal testing for a cure for AIDS is different.

Lastly, if animal experimentation is animal cruelty, I support some animal cruelty.  Better a few rats suffer than millions of humans die from typhoid, smallpox, measles, rubella, cholera, and so on and so on.

But that's my opinion.
SunflowerGaming : I'm not trying to change your opinion.  You feel how you feel and that's the end of that.  I have no reason or point to make you feel otherwise.  I disagree with the definition we're using for animal cruelty.

I'm just curious how tall you stand on the issue.  I'm glad we've tested on animals in the past.  Medicine and surgery to combat cancer, AIDS, and eradicate diseases have been developed by animal testing.  Techniques to fix humans have been done by using animals.  Experimenting on humans is unlikely to happen as much and we've created a world with a higher quality of life and a longer life expectancy because of animal testing.


But you originally asked about cruelty to animals and not testing on animals.  I think they are two seperate and distinct activities.  Cruelty to animals is setting fire to a dog for no reason.  Animal testing for a cure for AIDS is different.

Lastly, if animal experimentation is animal cruelty, I support some animal cruelty.  Better a few rats suffer than millions of humans die from typhoid, smallpox, measles, rubella, cholera, and so on and so on.

But that's my opinion.
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I am against cruelty to animals, since it is a horrible thing for any human being to do.

That said, I absolutely hate PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) because I think they are zealous nutjobs who make all animal lovers look bad. They tried to rename fish "sea kittens" to get people to stop eating fish (because you wouldn't want to eat a sea kitten, would you?). I am not joking, it's on their website. It kinda sucks because they are so nuts that a lot of people will avoid anything to do with them and so it hurts many legitimate causes that might come to them for help.
I am against cruelty to animals, since it is a horrible thing for any human being to do.

That said, I absolutely hate PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) because I think they are zealous nutjobs who make all animal lovers look bad. They tried to rename fish "sea kittens" to get people to stop eating fish (because you wouldn't want to eat a sea kitten, would you?). I am not joking, it's on their website. It kinda sucks because they are so nuts that a lot of people will avoid anything to do with them and so it hurts many legitimate causes that might come to them for help.
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warmaker : I'm not saying I would want humans to go through that kind of testing either. But what makes us humans think we have the authority to put an animal through such torture either. I just don't think it's right. We all have our own opinion on the matter and this is mine.
warmaker : I'm not saying I would want humans to go through that kind of testing either. But what makes us humans think we have the authority to put an animal through such torture either. I just don't think it's right. We all have our own opinion on the matter and this is mine.
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warmaker : This is in response to the whole animal testing thing, but referring to your first post. I get why animals such as mice are used for testing. Anatomically speaking, they are very similar to us and respond to many things the same way we do. When you add to the fact that you can get multiple mice with quick generation periods, they are more convenient. As far as the actual cruelty thing goes, I would prefer that we not use them because they have no choice. But I'm not against it simply because it if we tested drugs as many humans with a disease as we do mice, we would end up wiping out most of them, leaving less people affected to try to cure. I just think of it as mice dying for a just cause.

But there are some testing I think shouldn't be done on animals. Over the counter medications that are given to animals to test the side effects or hygiene and beauty products are ridiculous. When you ask if we would rather them be tested on animals or people who volunteered, I would choose the morons who volunteer for those things
warmaker : This is in response to the whole animal testing thing, but referring to your first post. I get why animals such as mice are used for testing. Anatomically speaking, they are very similar to us and respond to many things the same way we do. When you add to the fact that you can get multiple mice with quick generation periods, they are more convenient. As far as the actual cruelty thing goes, I would prefer that we not use them because they have no choice. But I'm not against it simply because it if we tested drugs as many humans with a disease as we do mice, we would end up wiping out most of them, leaving less people affected to try to cure. I just think of it as mice dying for a just cause.

But there are some testing I think shouldn't be done on animals. Over the counter medications that are given to animals to test the side effects or hygiene and beauty products are ridiculous. When you ask if we would rather them be tested on animals or people who volunteered, I would choose the morons who volunteer for those things
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rcarter2 : I don't disagree with you at all.

Make-up shouldn't be smeared in the eyes of animals to see what it does.  That sort of thing is terrible and should have humans test it, preferably prisoners who can pay back their debt to society.

rcarter2 : I don't disagree with you at all.

Make-up shouldn't be smeared in the eyes of animals to see what it does.  That sort of thing is terrible and should have humans test it, preferably prisoners who can pay back their debt to society.

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i think animal cruelty is bad if some likes animal cruelty they should go to jail or worse
i think animal cruelty is bad if some likes animal cruelty they should go to jail or worse
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I think that anyone that will do that to an animal needs to go away forever. I hate animal cruelty and honestly think it is one of the worst crimes you can commit. Ultimately it is the lowest of the low.
I think that anyone that will do that to an animal needs to go away forever. I hate animal cruelty and honestly think it is one of the worst crimes you can commit. Ultimately it is the lowest of the low.
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Honestly, if I walked past someone's house, looked through the window, and saw them abusing an animal, I would kick down their door, rush inside and hit them in the back with a heavy object. Then I would rescue the animal and call the cops.

I'd take a bullet for my dog just as quickly as I'd take one for my fiance because I love my dog that much.

So to even think about someone abusing an animal makes me physically ill.
Honestly, if I walked past someone's house, looked through the window, and saw them abusing an animal, I would kick down their door, rush inside and hit them in the back with a heavy object. Then I would rescue the animal and call the cops.

I'd take a bullet for my dog just as quickly as I'd take one for my fiance because I love my dog that much.

So to even think about someone abusing an animal makes me physically ill.
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