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EarthBound: the Gigyas Theory

 

10-12-10 08:29 PM
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So, I've been hearing theories that the Final Boss in Earthbound, Gigyas, is supposed to represent a fetus. Apparently the area that contains Gigyas resembles that of a woman's cervix, and that Ness and co. has been sent back in time to "abort" the alien menace to save the world. It sounds bogus, but I'm still uncertain.

Fetus, alien invader, or an unbodied evil consiousness? What do you guys think?






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So, I've been hearing theories that the Final Boss in Earthbound, Gigyas, is supposed to represent a fetus. Apparently the area that contains Gigyas resembles that of a woman's cervix, and that Ness and co. has been sent back in time to "abort" the alien menace to save the world. It sounds bogus, but I'm still uncertain.

Fetus, alien invader, or an unbodied evil consiousness? What do you guys think?






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I'm not sure what a fetus has to do with anything, but I do remember hearing something like this (correct me if I'm wrong):

Young Itoi walked into the wrong movie theater, and a woman was being raped (in the movie). She said something like, "Oh no! Stop it, please!" etc., and he was inspired to make Giygas say things like that for such a reason. Why? I honestly have no idea, that's Itoi for you.

On a completely unrelated note, Shigeru Miyamoto shares the same craziness, as he named Pikmin's "Forest Navel" after a belly button. Heh.
I'm not sure what a fetus has to do with anything, but I do remember hearing something like this (correct me if I'm wrong):

Young Itoi walked into the wrong movie theater, and a woman was being raped (in the movie). She said something like, "Oh no! Stop it, please!" etc., and he was inspired to make Giygas say things like that for such a reason. Why? I honestly have no idea, that's Itoi for you.

On a completely unrelated note, Shigeru Miyamoto shares the same craziness, as he named Pikmin's "Forest Navel" after a belly button. Heh.

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It may be true. I've heard about what Robert said, and raping has to do with pregnancy.
It may be true. I've heard about what Robert said, and raping has to do with pregnancy.

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Yeah, but it was actually a murder scene, not a rape scene. Gigyas's dialogue was written from the movie.

Itoi probably wanted the game to end on a very emotional level.
Yeah, but it was actually a murder scene, not a rape scene. Gigyas's dialogue was written from the movie.

Itoi probably wanted the game to end on a very emotional level.

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I have no idea, but I don't think that it would have been designed completely after a fetus. I'd go with evil consciousness, first.
I have no idea, but I don't think that it would have been designed completely after a fetus. I'd go with evil consciousness, first.

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I don't believe that it was just a coincidence, Itoi probably did put the fetus in Giygas's form to represent the murder scene thing.
I don't believe that it was just a coincidence, Itoi probably did put the fetus in Giygas's form to represent the murder scene thing.

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Yeah, I've heard the whole controversy.

Honestly I think it's twisted. But that's what makes it cool. A dark tone in a great game is like a Disney Movie with its dark undertones at times. You don't really intently think about it, but you can't HELP but think when its brought into the forelight. I never thought about it until my friend brought it up and since it has made me think whenever I see Gigyas.
Yeah, I've heard the whole controversy.

Honestly I think it's twisted. But that's what makes it cool. A dark tone in a great game is like a Disney Movie with its dark undertones at times. You don't really intently think about it, but you can't HELP but think when its brought into the forelight. I never thought about it until my friend brought it up and since it has made me think whenever I see Gigyas.

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I agree. It's something that affects both kids and adults. It's funny, with or without the fetus theory, the music and atmosphere still creeped me out A LOT, and I'm an older teenager.
I agree. It's something that affects both kids and adults. It's funny, with or without the fetus theory, the music and atmosphere still creeped me out A LOT, and I'm an older teenager.

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I was looking up interviews of the guy before I saw this thread and yes he did see a "scary movie" in which there was a quote "graphic rape." This scarred him for life and then he created the final boss like that because of what he saw.
I was looking up interviews of the guy before I saw this thread and yes he did see a "scary movie" in which there was a quote "graphic rape." This scarred him for life and then he created the final boss like that because of what he saw.

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I'm not going to pick a side,but I would like to point out something: One of Giygas's forms (I'm pretty sure the second)is basically a patchwork of human fetus sillouettes. The scene is,however,distorted,so it's not incredibly noticable. However,if you see it and look closely,you will see that it is rather detailed,including curvature for the lips and nose. Once again,I'm not picking a side,but this is pretty compelling evidence in addition to the other facts presented.
I'm not going to pick a side,but I would like to point out something: One of Giygas's forms (I'm pretty sure the second)is basically a patchwork of human fetus sillouettes. The scene is,however,distorted,so it's not incredibly noticable. However,if you see it and look closely,you will see that it is rather detailed,including curvature for the lips and nose. Once again,I'm not picking a side,but this is pretty compelling evidence in addition to the other facts presented.

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HolyFoxKing : You're right too. It does look like a distorted face, but it depends on how you look at it.
HolyFoxKing : You're right too. It does look like a distorted face, but it depends on how you look at it.

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Kaiser19 : It really does depend upon perspective. i'm just stating one of the ways it can be interpreted.
Kaiser19 : It really does depend upon perspective. i'm just stating one of the ways it can be interpreted.

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HolyFoxKing : Also, Gigyas's powers were so strong, he destroyed his body, so it could be his disembodied consciousness.
HolyFoxKing : Also, Gigyas's powers were so strong, he destroyed his body, so it could be his disembodied consciousness.

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Kaiser19 : BUt wasn't the battle with Giygas before he gained god-like power?
Kaiser19 : BUt wasn't the battle with Giygas before he gained god-like power?

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HolyFoxKing : Well, Earthbound is actually the second game of a series in Japan called MOTHER.

In Mother 1 (Earthbound Zero), Gigyas (Gigue in the game) was an alien invader who did in fact have a body.

Maybe in between Earthbound Zero and Earthbound, he gained more power. But this is just speculation. I'm just as confused as you are.
HolyFoxKing : Well, Earthbound is actually the second game of a series in Japan called MOTHER.

In Mother 1 (Earthbound Zero), Gigyas (Gigue in the game) was an alien invader who did in fact have a body.

Maybe in between Earthbound Zero and Earthbound, he gained more power. But this is just speculation. I'm just as confused as you are.

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That,and there really is no way to gauge his power at any point in time. The only hints we have are the time periods in which he is featured. I guess all we can really say is that his powers range from demi-godlike in his first appearance and god-like in his last. It seem we have reached an impass.
That,and there really is no way to gauge his power at any point in time. The only hints we have are the time periods in which he is featured. I guess all we can really say is that his powers range from demi-godlike in his first appearance and god-like in his last. It seem we have reached an impass.

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