If good deeds gets you to heaven, there would be no point of the Gospel. I don't see why Jesus had to come down to earth to die on the cross if you could just do good things. The fact is, there is no such thing as a good person, because in God's eyes, a good person would have to have a perfect record! It's completely impossible.
That's why I say this kind of mindset for Christians or anyone who thinks that good deeds get you to heaven is extremely dangerous.
Objections?

I object to this because its almost as if God is forcing people to sin in order to get into heaven. Why is not doing good deeds fine? Well in my opinion the reason for the rejection of good deeds is it does not really bring them closer to god. Sure you can go to church, say your prayers, and eat your vitamins but when I look at this all I can think about is sin and repenting. You do good things you will be repenting less which means that the more you repent = the better chance you will get going to heaven.

If good deeds don't get you into heaven then that means good deeds get you into hell while bad deeds get you into heaven.

JigSaw : Wow I'm sorry but I don't get your logic at all. Just because good works don't get you to heaven, that doesn't meant that good works get you to hell. You're not making sense.
God is not forcing people to sin, in fact, he hates sin. And I'm not saying doing good deeds is bad, I'm just saying it can't get you to heaven. Simple as that.

mdynasty926: Well the reason I said good deeds get you into hell is because if they don't get you into heaven then they must obviously get you into hell.

Good deeds don't get you into heaven or hell but bad deeds will get you into heaven and hell. That is interesting isnt it?

So basically your trying to say:

Christian who believes in Jesus does good deeds goes to heaven
Non-christian who does not believe in jesus does good deeds and gets sent to hell

You can't have it both ways cause you just said good deeds alone will not get you into heaven so that means they will go to hell for doing good things.

So your trying to say the missing item here is Jesus? Without Jesus your going to hell no matter what even if your a good guy.

JigSaw : Well here's what the Bible says... Romans 5:20b & 6:1-3. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Or do you not know that as many where baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?

So you can see that God doesn't want us to sin...

Ephesians 2:10. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

So there is nothing wrong with good deeds, they're a byproduct of your salvation.

JigSaw : Exactly.
I don't see your logic here... when he says doing good deeds alone doesn't get you into heaven, it means no matter how good you are, the missing factor is Jesus. Logically, just because something doesn't net you the best possible result doesn't mean it will net you the worst possible result. Good deeds don't get you into heaven, but they're not the reason people go to hell. Simply stocking up on supplies doesn't guarantee an easy victory with no soldiers lost, but it doesn't make you lose the battle. You need a good tactical leader and skill as well... in life, your leader is Christ, your supplies are your good works, and your skill is your knowledge of the Bible.

I have no objections. This is the reason why Jesus came, because we couldn't be saved ourselves. Ephesians 2:8-10 confirms this by saying: It is by grace through faith you have been saved and this not of yourselves so that no man can boast. I'm with most other people here when they say good works don't get you saved, rather good works comes from being saved.

couldnt we just live our lives the way we want but keep it in limit of what we do and what we say. what i mean is some of us could be a little bad sometimes. Not everyone is perfect what do you think? And if god wanted us to be good wouldnt he created us to be?

Good deeds do not get you into heaven. We are not saved by works, but rather by grace through faith. You could be a really great person who does all sorts of good deeds, but if you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour it'll all amount ot nothing in the end. And man is far from perfect, even the best of us are still sinners who fall short of the glory of God. But we are in the period of grace, where we can be forgiven of our sins.

Stupidguy525 : Yes we can live our lives the way we want, God isn't forcing anyone, including Christians, to live a certain way. But being good enough isn't going to cut it because no one can be. Living your life before God, in obedience to Him, with His Spirit within you is what counts.

Stupidguy525 : As tRIUNE is saying we can live according to our will, and yes you are right, we are not perfect. This is why we have Jesus, because we can't get to heaven ourselves. In the beginning we were created perfect, I fully believe that. Even Satan was of absolute perfection and indescribable beauty. But this was before rebellion when Satan along with humanity screwed it up for ourselves.

lol you are hilarious JigSaw. you guys are just TOO easy lol

edit: accidentally typed JugSaw instead of JigSaw xD

Some of us post replys that have nothing to do with the thread...

Chronabis : Watch the off topic posts, man.
And I don't get what you mean... JigSaw isn't joking here . That's what he really thinks... I'm pretty sure. Trust me... that's JigSaw's style... his belief system .
Stupidguy525 : Well, He did create us as good creatures. We rebelled (see Genesis 1-3 for the whole story, including where He called us good).

Treat "getting into heaven" [GIH] as a boolean variable, AKA, true, or false. When you die, you get into heaven, or you do not. Treat "accepted Jesus" [AJ] as another boolean. Okay, now comes the hard math part.
GIH = AJ

got that? Set the values equal to each other, either both true, or both false. Got it? Simple, nothing more. No factors of weighing "good versus bad" Just straight boolean.
If you want to factor good deeds into it then you can always say
Eternal Rewards = M * Good Deeds + B where M is some coefficient and B is some base value, but you'll notice, GIH is not in the same equation as good deeds. Not at all, not even a little. There you go. That's math, that's truth.

masterwizard : I disagree.

Matt 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Matt 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned"

Luke 6:46-49 - paraphrased - He that heareth and doeth is built on a foundation of rock and is not shaken. He that hearteh only is built upon a foundation of sand and the house does not stand.

John 6:54 "Whoso eateth my flesh and driketh my blood hath eternal life: and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." and you can continue on through to verse 24 really.

Now, I'm not suggesting that Good Works = heaven.... but that there are some requirements of keeping the commandments, and repentance that are required along with faith to receive the grace of Jesus. Does faith save you? NO. The grace of God saves you. Faith alone will not save you and works alone will not save you.