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Confession to a priest is a catholic thing. In the bible, God is the only one we actually need to confess to. It is still said for us to confess to one another, but I think Catholics take it to far. Priests whether they're Christians or not are just men and have no power to forgive sins. God is the only one who can forgive our sins so I vote NO.
Confession to a priest is a catholic thing. In the bible, God is the only one we actually need to confess to. It is still said for us to confess to one another, but I think Catholics take it to far. Priests whether they're Christians or not are just men and have no power to forgive sins. God is the only one who can forgive our sins so I vote NO.
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There is no power in confessing to a priest. Catholics think that every sin cannot be forgiven unless they confess it to a priest. However, forgiveness is already given to those who are truly saved by God, for past, present, and future sins. If a person is truly saved, they would want to confess to God and ask for forgiveness even when forgiveness is already given, One should also confess to person that one harmed to reconcile the relationship between them.

"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," (1 Timothy 2:5)
There is no power in confessing to a priest. Catholics think that every sin cannot be forgiven unless they confess it to a priest. However, forgiveness is already given to those who are truly saved by God, for past, present, and future sins. If a person is truly saved, they would want to confess to God and ask for forgiveness even when forgiveness is already given, One should also confess to person that one harmed to reconcile the relationship between them.

"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," (1 Timothy 2:5)
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The need for a priest was strictly before Jesus was crucified. The law of the Old Testament stated that there was no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. This is why Christ was crucified; to become the eternal sacrifice. In Hebrews 10:11,12 it reads 'every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man (Jesus), after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God.' In 1 Timothy 2:5,6 it reads 'there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all.' The priests of today, I believe, are insulting Jesus because they are denying His finished work on the cross.
The Bible also states that all Christians are priests 'spiritually' (1 Peter 2:5 & 9).
The need for a priest was strictly before Jesus was crucified. The law of the Old Testament stated that there was no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. This is why Christ was crucified; to become the eternal sacrifice. In Hebrews 10:11,12 it reads 'every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man (Jesus), after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God.' In 1 Timothy 2:5,6 it reads 'there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all.' The priests of today, I believe, are insulting Jesus because they are denying His finished work on the cross.
The Bible also states that all Christians are priests 'spiritually' (1 Peter 2:5 & 9).
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There is no need to confess to an earthly priest. Christ is our priest now, and even better of one than any human, for he knows the confession and has granted forgiveness, before being asked.
There is no need to confess to an earthly priest. Christ is our priest now, and even better of one than any human, for he knows the confession and has granted forgiveness, before being asked.
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I think it's important for only 1 reason.... there are temporal effects to your sins (what is affecting other people) and I think a priest/minister etc could be helpful in dealing with that aspect of sinning.

I agree that a priest can't forgive sins.... but they can help you through the repentance process and get you back on track. Don't discount the advice and guidance of someone who spend their life trying to be as spiritual as possible. They may have insights that you would find very helpful.
I think it's important for only 1 reason.... there are temporal effects to your sins (what is affecting other people) and I think a priest/minister etc could be helpful in dealing with that aspect of sinning.

I agree that a priest can't forgive sins.... but they can help you through the repentance process and get you back on track. Don't discount the advice and guidance of someone who spend their life trying to be as spiritual as possible. They may have insights that you would find very helpful.
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geeogree : You know... I've never thought of it that way. I guess I've always considered stuff like that more of a spiritual help session than a confession.
geeogree : You know... I've never thought of it that way. I guess I've always considered stuff like that more of a spiritual help session than a confession.
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I think these guys have pretty much hit the nail on the head. Even the Pharisees questioned Jesus's ability to forgive sins because they said, "who but God has the power to forgive sins?" Jesus gave the disciples the ability to perform miracles and cast out demons, but he did not say that they had the power to forgive sins.

I think geeogree makes an excellent point, though - it is important to talk to people about things that are bothering you, and if it's a particular sin that vexes you there are few people who would be better to confess to than a priest or your local pastor or whatever.

The important thing is that no matter what God will always forgive your sins at no cost to yourself.
I think these guys have pretty much hit the nail on the head. Even the Pharisees questioned Jesus's ability to forgive sins because they said, "who but God has the power to forgive sins?" Jesus gave the disciples the ability to perform miracles and cast out demons, but he did not say that they had the power to forgive sins.

I think geeogree makes an excellent point, though - it is important to talk to people about things that are bothering you, and if it's a particular sin that vexes you there are few people who would be better to confess to than a priest or your local pastor or whatever.

The important thing is that no matter what God will always forgive your sins at no cost to yourself.
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"The important thing is that no matter what God will always forgive your sins at no cost to yourself."

2 exceptions I have with this statement.

1. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. I'm not sure what anyone thinks that actually involves but that is clearly the only unforgivable sin I've ever heard mentioned.

2. There is always a cost to obtain forgiveness of sins. I think the most obvious cost of forgiveness for sins is abstinence from that sin from then on out. Commit the sin again and repentance must occur again. I don't believe in a once and for all forgiveness of sins. I believe in an actively involved repentance where you spend your life ridding yourself of the sins that plague you in an effort to become like Jesus. If that isn't a cost then I think you're not truly repentant.
"The important thing is that no matter what God will always forgive your sins at no cost to yourself."

2 exceptions I have with this statement.

1. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. I'm not sure what anyone thinks that actually involves but that is clearly the only unforgivable sin I've ever heard mentioned.

2. There is always a cost to obtain forgiveness of sins. I think the most obvious cost of forgiveness for sins is abstinence from that sin from then on out. Commit the sin again and repentance must occur again. I don't believe in a once and for all forgiveness of sins. I believe in an actively involved repentance where you spend your life ridding yourself of the sins that plague you in an effort to become like Jesus. If that isn't a cost then I think you're not truly repentant.
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geeogree : 1. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when a person is given so many opportunities, only God knows the number, to receive Christ’s forgiveness and continuously rejects it; in which case God has determined that you won’t ever, and hardens your heart as in the case of Pharaoh in the exodus with Moses.

2. The idea of the once-for-all forgiveness is: God already knows the sins you will commit before you commit them and has already forgiven you on the basis that the Holy Spirit convicts you of the sin and you confess it and repent. Yes, the forgiveness is based on repentance, but we can do nothing apart from the Holy Spirit; so the idea is a repentant mind.
geeogree : 1. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when a person is given so many opportunities, only God knows the number, to receive Christ’s forgiveness and continuously rejects it; in which case God has determined that you won’t ever, and hardens your heart as in the case of Pharaoh in the exodus with Moses.

2. The idea of the once-for-all forgiveness is: God already knows the sins you will commit before you commit them and has already forgiven you on the basis that the Holy Spirit convicts you of the sin and you confess it and repent. Yes, the forgiveness is based on repentance, but we can do nothing apart from the Holy Spirit; so the idea is a repentant mind.
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noelia : just out of curiosity, what would "other" in your poll mean?
noelia : just out of curiosity, what would "other" in your poll mean?
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play4fun : Well, I took a lesson about statistics this year, and they told us that the "other" option should be included in every questionary, that we make. Because it's impossible to predict all the possible opinions. Some people have ideas that aren't expressed by given options. So, I want to give people the chance to express themselves.
play4fun : Well, I took a lesson about statistics this year, and they told us that the "other" option should be included in every questionary, that we make. Because it's impossible to predict all the possible opinions. Some people have ideas that aren't expressed by given options. So, I want to give people the chance to express themselves.
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"so the idea is a repentant mind. "

What good is a repentant mind if the body doesn't follow suit? All I'm saying is that you can have all the best intentions you want to... but if those good intentions never come to fruition then what good are you?
"so the idea is a repentant mind. "

What good is a repentant mind if the body doesn't follow suit? All I'm saying is that you can have all the best intentions you want to... but if those good intentions never come to fruition then what good are you?
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tRIUNE : God is a vengeful God. He said so himself. But he also said he's not willing that "any" would perish. He won't give you up. He's gone to great lengths to win people over in the past.

My pastor brought up the unpardonable sin once, and he said that he and a group of his friends discussed it and came to the conclusion that the only sin that can not be forgiven is to not accept forgiveness. For this, the punishment is to live in the world you chose above God's. There's only one other place to go, after all.
tRIUNE : God is a vengeful God. He said so himself. But he also said he's not willing that "any" would perish. He won't give you up. He's gone to great lengths to win people over in the past.

My pastor brought up the unpardonable sin once, and he said that he and a group of his friends discussed it and came to the conclusion that the only sin that can not be forgiven is to not accept forgiveness. For this, the punishment is to live in the world you chose above God's. There's only one other place to go, after all.
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I guess if your catholic deemed as right, but I was once catholic when I was real young (not my fault) I didn't take any of it seriously and would never confess my sins to some priest in a phone booth. I was young yes but the idea of it I never liked it one bit. I once told a priest I would blow his head off with a bazooka. I'm sure other young kids would feel the same way if they were forced into becoming a catholic

Catholic school sucks btw... don't ever go there if your not truely a catholic it is hell on earth.
I guess if your catholic deemed as right, but I was once catholic when I was real young (not my fault) I didn't take any of it seriously and would never confess my sins to some priest in a phone booth. I was young yes but the idea of it I never liked it one bit. I once told a priest I would blow his head off with a bazooka. I'm sure other young kids would feel the same way if they were forced into becoming a catholic

Catholic school sucks btw... don't ever go there if your not truely a catholic it is hell on earth.
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Agreed-- John 15:1-5: "I am the true vine, and My Father is the the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you." Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in Him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. What I am saying is the Christian's efforts to abstain from sin are always going to fall short, but the Holy Spirit's indwelling produces the abstinence in you. This is why God's salvation is 'grace,' we can never earn it by being good enough based on our own merits; this is why one of the names of the Holy Spirit in the Bible is the Helper.
Agreed-- John 15:1-5: "I am the true vine, and My Father is the the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you." Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in Him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. What I am saying is the Christian's efforts to abstain from sin are always going to fall short, but the Holy Spirit's indwelling produces the abstinence in you. This is why God's salvation is 'grace,' we can never earn it by being good enough based on our own merits; this is why one of the names of the Holy Spirit in the Bible is the Helper.
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I'm gonna say that a true conversion through repentance and faith would lead the person to continue to repent in life. If one is truly saved, their fruits will show, because he has godly sorrow (meaning sorry for his sins not because of the punishment or consequence to come, but because it is sinning against God and that it is evil), which it would automatically leads to confession of his sin and the display of fruits.

"Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death." (2 Corinthians 7:10)

Remember that Biblical definition of repentance is to change the person's mind and attitude about sin. After this along with faith, the fruits that bears rejection of sin in action will show.
I'm gonna say that a true conversion through repentance and faith would lead the person to continue to repent in life. If one is truly saved, their fruits will show, because he has godly sorrow (meaning sorry for his sins not because of the punishment or consequence to come, but because it is sinning against God and that it is evil), which it would automatically leads to confession of his sin and the display of fruits.

"Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death." (2 Corinthians 7:10)

Remember that Biblical definition of repentance is to change the person's mind and attitude about sin. After this along with faith, the fruits that bears rejection of sin in action will show.
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Crawldragon : 'To continuously reject Christ's forgiveness' is the unpardonable sin of not accepting forgiveness. I should have phrased this differently, as I think it is a gray area between God and the individual, but you are right that He is not willing that any should perish. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and correcting me. Ultimately, dieing with out accepting Jesus is the unpardonable sin. Continual rejection of the call of the Spirit will leave you hard and calloused... eventually it will be too late. There is a simple way to discern blasphemy of the Holy Spirit: the question in mind would be 'do you care? Are you worried about committing this sin?' If so, the Holy Spirit is still calling you to Jesus. If you don't care, who knows?
Crawldragon : 'To continuously reject Christ's forgiveness' is the unpardonable sin of not accepting forgiveness. I should have phrased this differently, as I think it is a gray area between God and the individual, but you are right that He is not willing that any should perish. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and correcting me. Ultimately, dieing with out accepting Jesus is the unpardonable sin. Continual rejection of the call of the Spirit will leave you hard and calloused... eventually it will be too late. There is a simple way to discern blasphemy of the Holy Spirit: the question in mind would be 'do you care? Are you worried about committing this sin?' If so, the Holy Spirit is still calling you to Jesus. If you don't care, who knows?
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"Ultimately, dieing with out accepting Jesus is the unpardonable sin."

By that statement you've just damned billions of people (many who didn't have the chance to accept Jesus) to hell.
"Ultimately, dieing with out accepting Jesus is the unpardonable sin."

By that statement you've just damned billions of people (many who didn't have the chance to accept Jesus) to hell.
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geeogree : No one will go to hell because they haven't heard of Jesus Christ. The heathen will go to hell for murder, rape, adultery, lust, theft, lying, etc. Sin is not failing to hear the gospel. Rather, sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4).
geeogree : No one will go to hell because they haven't heard of Jesus Christ. The heathen will go to hell for murder, rape, adultery, lust, theft, lying, etc. Sin is not failing to hear the gospel. Rather, sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4).
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Vizzed has 3 TB worth of games and 1 TB worth of music.  This site is free to use but the ads barely pay for the monthly server fees.  If too many more people use ad block, the site cannot survive.

We prioritize the community over the site profits.  This is why we avoid using annoying (but high paying) ads like most other sites which include popups, obnoxious sounds and animations, malware, and other forms of intrusiveness.  We'll do our part to never resort to these types of ads, please do your part by helping support this site by adding Vizzed.com to your ad blocking whitelist.

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