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Is demon possession a gray area?

 

06-22-10 11:01 PM
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Ok so I realize a similar thread to this one was closed earlier. Thinking on that thread, Jesus says in the Bible, "I will never leave you nor forsake you," but it is possible for a Christian to forsake Him. For an example let's say one has been delivered of a drug addiction, which is to be considered demonic activity, and this person has a relapse. The Christian is certainly opening a gateway to demons, but possession?
Ok so I realize a similar thread to this one was closed earlier. Thinking on that thread, Jesus says in the Bible, "I will never leave you nor forsake you," but it is possible for a Christian to forsake Him. For an example let's say one has been delivered of a drug addiction, which is to be considered demonic activity, and this person has a relapse. The Christian is certainly opening a gateway to demons, but possession?

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well, I'll leave this open because you are changing the topic enough that I think this will get a more expansive discussion.

I personally think that whenever you knowingly and purposefully commit sin that you open yourself up to more and more demonic influence. Whether or not that can or will lead to possession is totally unknown in my opinion.... but I think that intentional sinning weakens the defences you have and makes you more likely to continue to sin.


well, I'll leave this open because you are changing the topic enough that I think this will get a more expansive discussion.

I personally think that whenever you knowingly and purposefully commit sin that you open yourself up to more and more demonic influence. Whether or not that can or will lead to possession is totally unknown in my opinion.... but I think that intentional sinning weakens the defences you have and makes you more likely to continue to sin.

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My belief is that you are always open to external demonic influence, but once you've accepted Christ, even if you've begun to fall away, as long as you are a true Christian, the demons can't actually take control of you or enter you. But there's always the ones hanging around, waiting to trip you up somewhere.

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My belief is that you are always open to external demonic influence, but once you've accepted Christ, even if you've begun to fall away, as long as you are a true Christian, the demons can't actually take control of you or enter you. But there's always the ones hanging around, waiting to trip you up somewhere.

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As a christian I believe that you're sealed in Christ forever, so I think you can at least hinder who you are in Christ, but to actually turn away completely isn't possible. If one could turn away from God than I'd question whether the person was with him to begin with. If we could truly have God and than lose him than that would throw grace outside the window. I only think that a demon has as much power over the christian as the christian gives him. Doing something bad doesn't necessarily mean you're possessed, just influenced.
As a christian I believe that you're sealed in Christ forever, so I think you can at least hinder who you are in Christ, but to actually turn away completely isn't possible. If one could turn away from God than I'd question whether the person was with him to begin with. If we could truly have God and than lose him than that would throw grace outside the window. I only think that a demon has as much power over the christian as the christian gives him. Doing something bad doesn't necessarily mean you're possessed, just influenced.

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Hoochman : exactly. some people think that just by commiting a sin, one must be demon posessed. jesus himself said there is none good, except God. Being human means being succeptable to sin. if everyone who sins is demon posessed, well then my friends, this world is even more overflowing with demonic possesion than we could have ever imagined. if you live in christ, he lives in you. you can fill your heart with lots of things, but if christ is in your heart, no demon in it's right mind would dare intrude.
Hoochman : exactly. some people think that just by commiting a sin, one must be demon posessed. jesus himself said there is none good, except God. Being human means being succeptable to sin. if everyone who sins is demon posessed, well then my friends, this world is even more overflowing with demonic possesion than we could have ever imagined. if you live in christ, he lives in you. you can fill your heart with lots of things, but if christ is in your heart, no demon in it's right mind would dare intrude.

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