Videogamegod : I never once said I don't believe he exists and this isn't an exercise for my benefit. Mostly I'm curious to see what reasons people think they know of to show why they think God exists.

If you really wanna get specific with the issue. You could look at the fulfilled prophecy.

Hoochman : so show us some.... that's my point. I want to see the evidence. I know it... but it would be nice to see some compiled info if you have some.

However, fulfilled prophecy doesn't prove God exists. There have been plenty of "prophets" through the ages that have accurately predicted something (and many times predicted things incorrectly).... although you do have to wonder how they manage to get it right.... even occasionally.

Since this is a Christian forum Jesus is the answer and proof God exists.

Well Just Think About This How Is Anything Even Existing? Sure we Know About the big bang and all But How was a void there For there even to be a big bang theory? In other words How Are We Existing in reality what is reality And How does Anything actually exist in the first Place.

There's two types of gods that I know exist, the one in religion I view as a scapegoat or fabrication. There is enough proof that Government is God or a illusion posing as god because they are very identical to what god is described as and capable of. Think of Government as reality god.

If I were to look at god from a christian perspective based on events on the bible God would be extraterrestrial. Why would god be an alien? Same reason why Jesus rose from the dead, the huge boulder got removed from his tomb and pulled a light show which only aliens have the tech to pull off such stunt. Bodies don't disappear out of nowhere and women don't get pregnaunt out of the blue. Aliens are the only ones who had the tech to pull off teleportation, illusions, and genetic experimentation at the time. There is a reason why government hides anything alien related.

Aliens are the missing links here. There is so much in space we do not know about hell we dont even know our own ocean fully. You can skip space and go directly to god because that would be cheating the system.

The bible is a designed path leading to the end of days. Someone is making it happen its not just happening out of the blue like a fairy tail. I am trying to look at who would benefit from lieing to people and I say Government is a key suspect. You can't question god right? Well you cant question government either. Why would government hide alien activity and label it as a threat to national security when they are not?

The scariest thing about god I can think of is printed on US money. It says "In God We Trust" that right there proves that there is a major lie going around, people are getting suckered into believing an entity they have never seen before. People want to know what the trinity represents? Civilians, Government, Aliens - Aliens = God, Government = Father, Civilians = Son. Welcome to reality

congrats Brandon.... you proved that government thinks it is God...

you did 0 to prove whether God (the "space alien" in your words) exists or not.

And after reading your post I feel less crazy for believing in God. Thank you.

Well, I don't know if this necessarily proves that God exists, however, events that took place in the Bible are referred to in cultures across the world, some of which don't even have an Abrahamic religion. For example, the story of the flood that covered the Earth is told both in the Middle East and by Native Americans on the other side of the planet. There are strong parallels between both, clearly describing the same event. All cultures share certain histories and beliefs that are described in Biblical times. No matter what your interpretation of them is, the events in the Bible did happen, and that points towards its legitimacy as a source of information.

BANANAS prove It. They fit snugly into your hand. That's what a Christian told me. So what hand was a watermelon made for ?

geeogree : GOD is as real as the air with breath, Have anyone tought of who wake you,the world, and me in the morning, what give you that power, who give you the power to wake up, who give you the power to make your own decisions, who give you the power of your own free will. I am no preacher, am a regular person who understand the only way to salvation is by understanding that there a higher power who allowed u to proceed everyday You wake up and breath life. Thank to all of those reading this.
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You have got to be kidding me brandonrock... way to steal my post go look on first page you just copy and pasted what I wrote.

Heres how I KNOW. One day when i was just a little kid, my mom told me we had to go to church. Naturally, i didnt want to, being like 5 and all. "How do we even know god exists?!" i said. When we got to church, the homily was ALL ABOUT HOW WE KNOW GOD EXISTS. thats crazy.....

There are many ways to prove God exists.

1) Historical/Artifact evidence (confirmed by lab tests)


*Sodom and Gomorrah ruins found covered in ash and sulfur balls (composed of 95% sulfur, the highest concentration in the world, second is 45%):
http://www.youtube.com/user/sygnate#p/u/6/oG3QsisQrkc

*Chariot wheels found in Red Sea crossing plus various Jewish campsites in Saudi Arabia:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sygnate#p/u/5/vaN2acVMGC8

*Burnt Mt. Sinai, huge split rock with water erosion, large altar dedicated to a golden calf:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sygnate#p/u/4/K-eSRcr9CWw

*Noah's Ark Found in Turkey:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sygnate#p/u/3/3PSZNYdfawQ

*Ark of the Testimony with ten commandments inside and on top having the blood of Yeshua HaMeshiach which is composed of 24 chromosomes, Golgotha (skull hill), garden tomb with stone wheel inserts, all found:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sygnate#p/u/1/bYIwjYN4JVo

*Dead Sea scrolls confirming the scriptures to be 100% unchanged over thousands of years.



2) Prophecy

*Holocaust: Ezekiel 37;
*Jews return to Israel: Ezekiel 38;
*World turns against Israel: Ezekiel 39

*Great Earthquakes all over the world, horrible tossing of the sea, nation rising against nation, massive famines, pestilence, persecution of Christians, armies surrounding Jerusalem: Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21

*Birds and fish dying: Hosea 4

*Division of Jerusalem by gentile nations: Zechariah 14, Revelation 11

*7 year covenant with many and Israel (European Neighbourhood and Partnership Instrument 2007-2013 made by Javier Solana): Daniel 9:27;

*Man of sin rising with 10 nations (WEU, Javier Solana): Daniel 7, Revelation 17;

*Javier Solana's massive military and financial and political power in Europe made possible by Recommendation 666 and Article 666 of the EU: Revelation 13

*Death and resurrection of the man of sin (seems to be political so far): Revelation 13

*Healthcare bill requiring all to have an RFID implant by 2014 (getting ready for mark of the beast): Revelation 13

*The New Covenant foretold in the Old Testament: Jeremiah 31

*Yeshua, Hebrew for Jesus, the Branch, foretold by name in the Old Testament: Zechariah 3

* Exact year given when Yeshua would come and give himself as a ransom for all who believe: Daniel 9

*The rise and fall of the Babylonian, Persian, Greek, and Roman Empires: Daniel 11


3) Personal experience: Can't exactly prove this to anyone but nonetheless is undeniable.

4) Creation:

*The more scientists study the earth whether on the microscopic level or planetary level, it becomes more clear just how complex this universe is. To say this was all an accident via the "Big Bang" would be equivalent to saying that I could take random computer parts, shake them in a bag and with enough time and "the right circumstances"
and I would have a fully functional laptop with Windows 7 and 4 GB of RAM.

There are so many other things I can list, but I want whomever sees this to research these claims I am making and judge for themselves what the truth is.

You in fact cannot prove somthing by using itself. But just because you can't prove it doesn't make it real. Belive it or not, you can't even prove some if you have proof, it can still be non-existant. People have "proof" of many different things, but those things they had proff on weren't true.It's impossible for us to tell weather or not He exists unless we die and go to Heavan, or Hell, or nothing happens at all.

If one could prove God exists, then there wouldn't be threads like this. God made it so we had to believe in him. To accept him as our Saviour. Of course, there will be a point when he returns, where "Every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord". So when that happens, THEN you can prove God exists. Until then, all you have is faith. But hey, faith is what I use all the time.

Take biology. Learn about your respiratory, circulatory, and nervous systems. That stuff is all so darn complicated it's hard to believe it just happened by random chance. And the perfect balanced ecosystems, biomes, physics, the way the universe recycles itself via supernovas, fusion, fission, it's all just so complicated it's ridiculous that if it wasn't organized by someone or something I'm terrified to even leave my house, I might get hit by lightning or a meteor or spontaneously combust.

If god exists would he look like a human? Would he talk like a human? Would he behave like a human? In my opinion the answer would be no. But if he looked like a fish or something who would believe that? So I guess it can make some sense.

I think the real answer here is if god existed we wouldn't need religion to prove his existence?

Think about it this way... what if bin laden is dead? Its the media that make him alive so you have to put into consideration how media alters ones mind. Religion is media.

Humans made religion not god, so that there can be a bit more proof that god doesn't exist. Although he could exist, I highly doubt his true form is portrayed correctly. We would not have as many religions as we do now if people were not bending the truth.

I completely agree with jigsaw.
To ignore all the evidence and facts is pure ignorance of the truth.
And if you think God put us here, I hope you don't belong to any single religion because that's like saying you believe in the tooth fairy but not Santa Clause.
Such extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not 1 book saying this is the truth and all the other books out there were planted by the Devil even though the majority of them all seem to have as much evidence as any other book.

Sorry if that's too harsh. I think people should have their own belief, their own personal religion. Not the most popular one in the region/time or what their parents forced upon them.

Obviously I don't believe in God, but if there is a God I would think that he/she/it is pure consciousness. God is existence and all of reality, for we are just a creation in his/her/it's dream.
If there is a God, he/she/it only wants you to make others happy. Any God that demands you worship him and make others believe in him otherwise he'll send you to hell for eternity IS NOT a loving God.

As for aliens, there are many different ancient civilizations (before religion) that believed they were put on this Earth by 'aliens' who also taught them how to farm and live.
Also, there are many government whistle blowers all around the world who put their career on the line to release Top Secret documents and videos. Most wait until retirement.
There is even a doctor in southern California who removes implants, and apparently it has the capability for deep space communication. (maybe not like a phone, but w/e it's used for).
There is so much more to this. You could spend months on end researching this stuff. Much more than what I can say for any religion.

However, with all this evidence, I wonder how much of it is true. The majority of it (ufos) could be government technology that they have either been working on for hundreds of years or that they were backwards-engineering alien technology, as the evidence shows.

Regardless of our beliefs, there is only 1 thing more important. Tyranny. We must unite and exterminate corruption from this planet. But if you'd rather believe that this is God's plan... maybe you're right, but if you let tyranny rule this world, and/or don't care about the suffering of others; why would God save you?

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icrazyforpokemon : That was spam. Be careful, you could get banned for that.

Also, just to respond to what you said...
Just reading the bible doesn't change anything. God is not proven by merely reading the bible.