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I had no idea where to put this so into the general forum it goes:

Returning here reminds me just how much I miss the old internet. For you youngins who may not remember forums like this use to be the norm. You use to be able to make fan projects and roms and such with little to no fear of mass copyright issues. Granted back then it was harder to navigate it was abit harder for people to tell alot of the fake sites from the real ones sometimes. There were horrors of some kinds but back then it was alot of small communities that occasionally overlapped. But small as they were they were active and the communities were very tight knit, like it was where you see a username and pretty much instantly recognize them. Sites in my opinion lost alot of what use to make them so great back then.

Nowadays it's quick messaging and short posts people pop in and often times get lost in the wave. It's so easy now to get lost and not know how to get back where you were scrolling through things. So many places are just down and lost to the abyss with the death made by claims, death of supporting services, for some just not being able to upkeep the costs anymore. Anmd with these types of sites falling and the rising of new age, we lose alot of the organization and personality old boards had.

Honestly that's part of what made me both happy and sad to return here. Seeing the fact an old place like this still stands is great but seeing so many of the old groups gone, seeing many users vanished, old threads shut down and such that use to have so many post everyday, it feels like I'm wandering through a neigh ghost town after a nuke dropped. But on the other hand it still means there are some who remember forum culture and that some of the supporting resource sites seem to stand as well why yesterday I found this beauty still stands

Back then I could tell a site from a single glance at the page, I loved looking at people's profiles and seeing how they customized them (honestly I really need to customize mine since it's no longer being shared to be honest) and forums like this made it so easy to backtrack and get a feel for the culture of the site, see who's who, learn abit of the running in jokes, and just generally get immersed in what the community was for. Everywhere had such personality and it brought me joy just seeing them even if we did get on heavy topics. It made the communities of old feel like second homes rather than just another site.

Now a days many places kinda follow the same formats and it's not as customizable as it use to be as a user. Alot of these sites I feel less like I'm enjoying a community and more like I'm just sitting here blinding staring with no way to really reach out.There isn't as much personality as there use to be and most of the feeds are people resharing the same content over and over. Sure there is some variety here and there but it's mostly kinda.. lost the charms of the old days? The monotinity of it all really just isn't the same I miss being able to log on and easily go through the organized forums and see what I missed easily, seeing the quirks and extensions of the boards, help add and build communities, checking peoples profiles seeing how they doing and what they change with time. And you know the little bells and whistles of posts such as here backgrounds signatures ect.

I miss seeing the content people would make and reading the boards to see the progress of their projects without fear one day it would just be wiped in an instant. I miss seeing how people interacted with such familiarity and community with care, seeing things grow and shape around with the users. Seeing what people crafted for use on these sites and that in turn making the communities grow more interesting. I miss most of all the freedom and the inspiration brought to life from people and what they do even in small ways like name flairs. It all brought more personality and individuality to ever aspects of those sites.

But that's why I'm so happy seeing this place still up even if few people still stand, seeing the remnants of old age I loved so much still stand here (most of it anyway). I still see people talking closely here that remain and it is nice to be able to read through the old threads and relive abit of the old stuff abit I remember reading through alot of these before even if alot I didn't post in but it brings back memories and I love it. I hope one day this place will see a resurgence it has most of what I love of the old forums.

Thanks for reading my little reminiscence I hope you are all doing well how do you guys feel about how things have changed now?
I had no idea where to put this so into the general forum it goes:

Returning here reminds me just how much I miss the old internet. For you youngins who may not remember forums like this use to be the norm. You use to be able to make fan projects and roms and such with little to no fear of mass copyright issues. Granted back then it was harder to navigate it was abit harder for people to tell alot of the fake sites from the real ones sometimes. There were horrors of some kinds but back then it was alot of small communities that occasionally overlapped. But small as they were they were active and the communities were very tight knit, like it was where you see a username and pretty much instantly recognize them. Sites in my opinion lost alot of what use to make them so great back then.

Nowadays it's quick messaging and short posts people pop in and often times get lost in the wave. It's so easy now to get lost and not know how to get back where you were scrolling through things. So many places are just down and lost to the abyss with the death made by claims, death of supporting services, for some just not being able to upkeep the costs anymore. Anmd with these types of sites falling and the rising of new age, we lose alot of the organization and personality old boards had.

Honestly that's part of what made me both happy and sad to return here. Seeing the fact an old place like this still stands is great but seeing so many of the old groups gone, seeing many users vanished, old threads shut down and such that use to have so many post everyday, it feels like I'm wandering through a neigh ghost town after a nuke dropped. But on the other hand it still means there are some who remember forum culture and that some of the supporting resource sites seem to stand as well why yesterday I found this beauty still stands

Back then I could tell a site from a single glance at the page, I loved looking at people's profiles and seeing how they customized them (honestly I really need to customize mine since it's no longer being shared to be honest) and forums like this made it so easy to backtrack and get a feel for the culture of the site, see who's who, learn abit of the running in jokes, and just generally get immersed in what the community was for. Everywhere had such personality and it brought me joy just seeing them even if we did get on heavy topics. It made the communities of old feel like second homes rather than just another site.

Now a days many places kinda follow the same formats and it's not as customizable as it use to be as a user. Alot of these sites I feel less like I'm enjoying a community and more like I'm just sitting here blinding staring with no way to really reach out.There isn't as much personality as there use to be and most of the feeds are people resharing the same content over and over. Sure there is some variety here and there but it's mostly kinda.. lost the charms of the old days? The monotinity of it all really just isn't the same I miss being able to log on and easily go through the organized forums and see what I missed easily, seeing the quirks and extensions of the boards, help add and build communities, checking peoples profiles seeing how they doing and what they change with time. And you know the little bells and whistles of posts such as here backgrounds signatures ect.

I miss seeing the content people would make and reading the boards to see the progress of their projects without fear one day it would just be wiped in an instant. I miss seeing how people interacted with such familiarity and community with care, seeing things grow and shape around with the users. Seeing what people crafted for use on these sites and that in turn making the communities grow more interesting. I miss most of all the freedom and the inspiration brought to life from people and what they do even in small ways like name flairs. It all brought more personality and individuality to ever aspects of those sites.

But that's why I'm so happy seeing this place still up even if few people still stand, seeing the remnants of old age I loved so much still stand here (most of it anyway). I still see people talking closely here that remain and it is nice to be able to read through the old threads and relive abit of the old stuff abit I remember reading through alot of these before even if alot I didn't post in but it brings back memories and I love it. I hope one day this place will see a resurgence it has most of what I love of the old forums.

Thanks for reading my little reminiscence I hope you are all doing well how do you guys feel about how things have changed now?
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While I was on the internet a lot as a kid I didn't really run into any forums before Vizzed or if I did I never signed up and have no memory of them but once I found Vizzed it rather quickly did become an online home in a sense I wish I would of found it when I was even younger but I still wouldn't of started posting until I was much older if I did but anywho hearing about old internet culture is always fun!

Also just wanted to let you know I edited out your link to that other site since I'd feel better without the link in the post with it not being a secure site.
While I was on the internet a lot as a kid I didn't really run into any forums before Vizzed or if I did I never signed up and have no memory of them but once I found Vizzed it rather quickly did become an online home in a sense I wish I would of found it when I was even younger but I still wouldn't of started posting until I was much older if I did but anywho hearing about old internet culture is always fun!

Also just wanted to let you know I edited out your link to that other site since I'd feel better without the link in the post with it not being a secure site.
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For the best or for the worse, this is just how things evolve. An idea starts kind of on an underground level, easy to access, heavily customizable... But as time progresses, it gets professional and it's not so easy to keep up or access it, and with a predefined idea of how they have to be the customization is left to a secondary level, if not less.

Examples exist everywhere. The same technology you use to surf this site on, for example, computers in particular. The costs to assemble a computer have increased over the years as makers attempted to bring better machinery to the world, the tower PCs became mandatory after many experiments (which continue to this day, with All-in-ones trying to be the new trend)... And many more things I can't list off the top of my head right now.

Entering any of these worlds on their early days allows you to live an experience that will never get repeated, simply because of evolution, progress and perfection. There's always a sector of people who wish we could keep more of the old days than we actually do, but sadly it's very hard to keep up with something so outdated in a society that not only fears going backwards but also dislikes a lack of progress in the short to mid term.

So yeah, we will all miss the good old days because they delivered something we just can't replicate or substitute. But we too have to move on, even if the modernization means we won't be so involved because it's not as attractive as it used to be. Times change, things change, people changes... We can't overlook that.

I do wish society was much less complicated and ever-changing, but sadly it isn't. It's a reality we can't escape from, and to be honest I've been trying just that for too long. I'm just someone who doesn't evolve as fast as society does, and I feel there's too many pointless things around us. However, it's also true that without experimenting progress can't be achieved, so all we can do is hope that said progress is made in the right direction.
For the best or for the worse, this is just how things evolve. An idea starts kind of on an underground level, easy to access, heavily customizable... But as time progresses, it gets professional and it's not so easy to keep up or access it, and with a predefined idea of how they have to be the customization is left to a secondary level, if not less.

Examples exist everywhere. The same technology you use to surf this site on, for example, computers in particular. The costs to assemble a computer have increased over the years as makers attempted to bring better machinery to the world, the tower PCs became mandatory after many experiments (which continue to this day, with All-in-ones trying to be the new trend)... And many more things I can't list off the top of my head right now.

Entering any of these worlds on their early days allows you to live an experience that will never get repeated, simply because of evolution, progress and perfection. There's always a sector of people who wish we could keep more of the old days than we actually do, but sadly it's very hard to keep up with something so outdated in a society that not only fears going backwards but also dislikes a lack of progress in the short to mid term.

So yeah, we will all miss the good old days because they delivered something we just can't replicate or substitute. But we too have to move on, even if the modernization means we won't be so involved because it's not as attractive as it used to be. Times change, things change, people changes... We can't overlook that.

I do wish society was much less complicated and ever-changing, but sadly it isn't. It's a reality we can't escape from, and to be honest I've been trying just that for too long. I'm just someone who doesn't evolve as fast as society does, and I feel there's too many pointless things around us. However, it's also true that without experimenting progress can't be achieved, so all we can do is hope that said progress is made in the right direction.
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A lot needs to be done to protect forum communities. Like national parks at this point. Everybody's looking for a homepage they can just open and scroll through, leaving casual replies to others in messages and more causal responses through comments. There's no longer a sense of grand articulation between minds online, and I feel as more of these companies such as Meta, Twitter, and TikTok are shown to be pretty terrible, it's super unlikely we'd ever see a small community on its own website with little external connection outside of advertising. People find the kinds of discussions that they're looking for out of utility.

While I'd come to a board site and see a small group of people discussing different subjects, I'd see their views on other things and be able to look through them in order of posting. Reddit's reply layout is great and all, but the one at a time approach to reading a board is still very cohesive to me and feels just as conversational. The problem is, lurkers these days need upvoted posts at the top so they get the most relevant answers or knowledgable opinions they're looking for so they can dip out and discover something else. They need their largely liked personalities to follow and be that sorta friend they know a lot about. I find that's something that has antiquated the message board system due to modern social media platforms having many methods of content creation.

I think we'd see an uptick for boards as these platforms begin to follow so long as they're being pushed effectively as an alternative and have room for a massively differently interested community. While it is a shame, it just goes to show the pros and cons of the system were what ended up defining it. Not just Vizzed but for the entire internet board world.
A lot needs to be done to protect forum communities. Like national parks at this point. Everybody's looking for a homepage they can just open and scroll through, leaving casual replies to others in messages and more causal responses through comments. There's no longer a sense of grand articulation between minds online, and I feel as more of these companies such as Meta, Twitter, and TikTok are shown to be pretty terrible, it's super unlikely we'd ever see a small community on its own website with little external connection outside of advertising. People find the kinds of discussions that they're looking for out of utility.

While I'd come to a board site and see a small group of people discussing different subjects, I'd see their views on other things and be able to look through them in order of posting. Reddit's reply layout is great and all, but the one at a time approach to reading a board is still very cohesive to me and feels just as conversational. The problem is, lurkers these days need upvoted posts at the top so they get the most relevant answers or knowledgable opinions they're looking for so they can dip out and discover something else. They need their largely liked personalities to follow and be that sorta friend they know a lot about. I find that's something that has antiquated the message board system due to modern social media platforms having many methods of content creation.

I think we'd see an uptick for boards as these platforms begin to follow so long as they're being pushed effectively as an alternative and have room for a massively differently interested community. While it is a shame, it just goes to show the pros and cons of the system were what ended up defining it. Not just Vizzed but for the entire internet board world.
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alexanyways : the biggest problem is Discord being used as an alternative in all honesty. nobody wants to be there, nobody wants to leave it. and as much as people want to deny it, all the big sites are one and the same these days, there's no true sense of community - you simply have subcircles of a greater 'internet', much like everyone being hoddled together in the same country. the old internet was like everywhere was a different region, or island, or whatever, with its own inhabitants and culture.

(it's like if everyone became Americanised, which is pretty much what is happening to the UK since the last 5 years in particular: younger people here are either of the obnoxious typical chav kind, or they try to be Twitter-addicted North American socialists because of the media they consume. either way. to be fair though, the UK being 'different' from the US culturally - at least, traditionally - has granted it quite the unpopular viewpoint from abroad due to people here being far more likely to be against anime/furry culture, and also the popularity of 'trans-exclusionary feminist' stuff here - which honestly given I've been in a few abusive online relations with transgender people in the past I can't help but sympathise with that side to a point)

this has been on the downturn since 2012, ever since 'HTML5' and 'mobile first' were a thing, though it really took a downward spiral in 2016 when SJWs became the norm rather than the exception in nerd circles online (thanks a lot GamerGate and the way the media covered it!), and all the nerds started joining Discord and Twitter - oddly enough the ROM hacking community, which often aligns itself with being very pro-documentation and transparency, was one of the very first to adopt the 'using Discord for literally anything, including using it like it's a wiki'.

you also have things like Tumblr banning porn (thank you Apple!!!), thus moving all the neopronoun weirdos that were pretty much contained on there exclusively onto Twitter, and causing them to absorb that culture too.

because nerds and whatnot were then pushed into the spotlight on Twitter (which was traditionally a platform nerds didn't really use, and then 2016 happened and it became cool for some reason) due to their interactions in political arguments alongside making memes that lasted 2 days... then ordinary people who never would have known or cared, end up knowing about things they probably would never have seeked out on their own, like for instance who got cancelled in the Nintendo community last week...

in the end, it creates this kind of 'monoculturalistic' feeling, about it, even translating somewhat into real life, because you can generally put zoomers into maybe three or four extreme categories and it'd fit 99.9% of them. it's really sad to see that there's a loss of individuality in PEOPLE themselves these days, too, even the annoying people are just cookie-cutter stereotypes nowadays that all copy one another.

another thing... funny how before Discord gained its monopoly over forums and IRC there was loads of spambots flooding IRC servers. as soon as everyone suddenly flocked over there, they stopped. yeah.

anyway, rant's over.
alexanyways : the biggest problem is Discord being used as an alternative in all honesty. nobody wants to be there, nobody wants to leave it. and as much as people want to deny it, all the big sites are one and the same these days, there's no true sense of community - you simply have subcircles of a greater 'internet', much like everyone being hoddled together in the same country. the old internet was like everywhere was a different region, or island, or whatever, with its own inhabitants and culture.

(it's like if everyone became Americanised, which is pretty much what is happening to the UK since the last 5 years in particular: younger people here are either of the obnoxious typical chav kind, or they try to be Twitter-addicted North American socialists because of the media they consume. either way. to be fair though, the UK being 'different' from the US culturally - at least, traditionally - has granted it quite the unpopular viewpoint from abroad due to people here being far more likely to be against anime/furry culture, and also the popularity of 'trans-exclusionary feminist' stuff here - which honestly given I've been in a few abusive online relations with transgender people in the past I can't help but sympathise with that side to a point)

this has been on the downturn since 2012, ever since 'HTML5' and 'mobile first' were a thing, though it really took a downward spiral in 2016 when SJWs became the norm rather than the exception in nerd circles online (thanks a lot GamerGate and the way the media covered it!), and all the nerds started joining Discord and Twitter - oddly enough the ROM hacking community, which often aligns itself with being very pro-documentation and transparency, was one of the very first to adopt the 'using Discord for literally anything, including using it like it's a wiki'.

you also have things like Tumblr banning porn (thank you Apple!!!), thus moving all the neopronoun weirdos that were pretty much contained on there exclusively onto Twitter, and causing them to absorb that culture too.

because nerds and whatnot were then pushed into the spotlight on Twitter (which was traditionally a platform nerds didn't really use, and then 2016 happened and it became cool for some reason) due to their interactions in political arguments alongside making memes that lasted 2 days... then ordinary people who never would have known or cared, end up knowing about things they probably would never have seeked out on their own, like for instance who got cancelled in the Nintendo community last week...

in the end, it creates this kind of 'monoculturalistic' feeling, about it, even translating somewhat into real life, because you can generally put zoomers into maybe three or four extreme categories and it'd fit 99.9% of them. it's really sad to see that there's a loss of individuality in PEOPLE themselves these days, too, even the annoying people are just cookie-cutter stereotypes nowadays that all copy one another.

another thing... funny how before Discord gained its monopoly over forums and IRC there was loads of spambots flooding IRC servers. as soon as everyone suddenly flocked over there, they stopped. yeah.

anyway, rant's over.
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I remember when the internet went public in the late 1980's setting up the internet boom of the 1990's. There are some things I miss about the old internet. One thing I miss was it just seemed like the world was more simple and not like it is now. Me and my friends had Messenger it was similar to how facebook's messenger works today. You could chat with your friends. I also miss some of the older webistes and webrowsers such as Earthlink, Webcrawler, and others. It also seemed like the internet was not political back then either.

However, things I do not miss
I do not miss the dial up internet. Back then it was the top thing and most people had dial up internet. Now, dial up is very slow compared to high speed internet. Under dial up when it stormed the internet would go out. I def do not miss that. I also do not miss things taking a while to load.
I remember when the internet went public in the late 1980's setting up the internet boom of the 1990's. There are some things I miss about the old internet. One thing I miss was it just seemed like the world was more simple and not like it is now. Me and my friends had Messenger it was similar to how facebook's messenger works today. You could chat with your friends. I also miss some of the older webistes and webrowsers such as Earthlink, Webcrawler, and others. It also seemed like the internet was not political back then either.

However, things I do not miss
I do not miss the dial up internet. Back then it was the top thing and most people had dial up internet. Now, dial up is very slow compared to high speed internet. Under dial up when it stormed the internet would go out. I def do not miss that. I also do not miss things taking a while to load.
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Message Boards really are a dying art, I remember the first one I signed up for, this was back when The Simpsons had a GOOD website (at least the No Homer's Message board still exists, I signed up for it in 2013 when there was speculation about someone being killed off, I thought for sure it would have been Mrs.Krabappel because her voice actress had passed and Al Jean had said that the only hint they were giving was the character being killed off won an emmy for playing the role, Marcia Wallace won an emmy for Bart the Lover, it made the most sense to me....the episode was revealed to be Clown in the Dumps (and to be fair they could have killed off Krusty in that episode since Dan Castelleneta won an emmy for Today I Am A Clown, but I don't know for which voice performance he won for) however it turned out the character being killed off was Rabbi Krustofski, his father, which I guess was fair because Jackie Mason one for Like Father, Like Clown)

man I miss the old Simpsons Website, I miss the old Teletoon website I miss the Beatles website from when they were still promoting the 1 album that was how I discovered they had their own cartoon series, and let's face it even if we could go to how it looked back on the internet archive (or the wayback machine) they would be useless without Flash Player
Message Boards really are a dying art, I remember the first one I signed up for, this was back when The Simpsons had a GOOD website (at least the No Homer's Message board still exists, I signed up for it in 2013 when there was speculation about someone being killed off, I thought for sure it would have been Mrs.Krabappel because her voice actress had passed and Al Jean had said that the only hint they were giving was the character being killed off won an emmy for playing the role, Marcia Wallace won an emmy for Bart the Lover, it made the most sense to me....the episode was revealed to be Clown in the Dumps (and to be fair they could have killed off Krusty in that episode since Dan Castelleneta won an emmy for Today I Am A Clown, but I don't know for which voice performance he won for) however it turned out the character being killed off was Rabbi Krustofski, his father, which I guess was fair because Jackie Mason one for Like Father, Like Clown)

man I miss the old Simpsons Website, I miss the old Teletoon website I miss the Beatles website from when they were still promoting the 1 album that was how I discovered they had their own cartoon series, and let's face it even if we could go to how it looked back on the internet archive (or the wayback machine) they would be useless without Flash Player
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