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Is the Xbox 360 overated? Is the Wii UNDERATED?

 

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Xbox, overated?

I think it's overated. 90% of the games on it can be played on the PS3, PC, or both. And it's the most faulty console out there, with there being more people getting RROD every single day.
And everybody says that blood and gore makes a game, along with graphics. Which is completely wrong. The best games ever don't have good graphics. They have nice graphics, but not good graphics.

Wii, underated?

Yes. Yes yes yes YES. It IS. Always has been, always will be. The thing is, the same kids I mentioned above abuse the Wii for being 'kiddy'. Fact: The Wii isn't kiddy. A console cannot be kiddy unless ment for kids. A lot of the GAMES are kiddy, but the Wii itself isn't. There are plenty of games that aren't kiddy. Like MadWorld, Red Steel and it's sequel, No More Heroes and it's sequel, and a few Resident Evil games.
It's said to be a recolored gamecube. People, it's not a recolored gamecube, and while it isn't as powerful as the PS3 or 360, it's still more powerful then the gamecube. I doubt that Mario Kart Wii could be pulled off on the gamecube.
It's also said to lack 3rd party support. THIS IS INSANE! It has AMAZING 3rd party support, albeit full of crappy games, it still has the most 3rd party support out of all the consoles. Capcom supports it great, Ubisoft does, though they put out the cheap shovelware to support Assassian's Creed 3 and such, many others do as well.


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Xbox, overated?

I think it's overated. 90% of the games on it can be played on the PS3, PC, or both. And it's the most faulty console out there, with there being more people getting RROD every single day.
And everybody says that blood and gore makes a game, along with graphics. Which is completely wrong. The best games ever don't have good graphics. They have nice graphics, but not good graphics.

Wii, underated?

Yes. Yes yes yes YES. It IS. Always has been, always will be. The thing is, the same kids I mentioned above abuse the Wii for being 'kiddy'. Fact: The Wii isn't kiddy. A console cannot be kiddy unless ment for kids. A lot of the GAMES are kiddy, but the Wii itself isn't. There are plenty of games that aren't kiddy. Like MadWorld, Red Steel and it's sequel, No More Heroes and it's sequel, and a few Resident Evil games.
It's said to be a recolored gamecube. People, it's not a recolored gamecube, and while it isn't as powerful as the PS3 or 360, it's still more powerful then the gamecube. I doubt that Mario Kart Wii could be pulled off on the gamecube.
It's also said to lack 3rd party support. THIS IS INSANE! It has AMAZING 3rd party support, albeit full of crappy games, it still has the most 3rd party support out of all the consoles. Capcom supports it great, Ubisoft does, though they put out the cheap shovelware to support Assassian's Creed 3 and such, many others do as well.


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Yes, the 360 is over rated. As you said, a large percentage of the games can be played on other platforms, the controller is stupid and RRoD is a constant fear.
The 360 will never get to "retro" status because by the time this gen is considered retro there wont be a working 360 left in the world

No, the Wii is not under rated. You really confirmed my point by saying "albeit full of crappy games" and "though they put out the cheap shovelware".
The Wii is for casual gaming, nothing more really.
And the controls, a rubbish gimmick.
No, the Wii isn't kiddy. It's for "families". Not for gamers.
Yes, the 360 is over rated. As you said, a large percentage of the games can be played on other platforms, the controller is stupid and RRoD is a constant fear.
The 360 will never get to "retro" status because by the time this gen is considered retro there wont be a working 360 left in the world

No, the Wii is not under rated. You really confirmed my point by saying "albeit full of crappy games" and "though they put out the cheap shovelware".
The Wii is for casual gaming, nothing more really.
And the controls, a rubbish gimmick.
No, the Wii isn't kiddy. It's for "families". Not for gamers.

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Xbox360 I care not to have becasue they make it sound so good when you can get a computer game with the same games and do much much more. An what DH said is right the Wii was made for families not real gaming ,but lets not forget it is used for the excersie challenged.
Xbox360 I care not to have becasue they make it sound so good when you can get a computer game with the same games and do much much more. An what DH said is right the Wii was made for families not real gaming ,but lets not forget it is used for the excersie challenged.

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You're right about the 360 being overrated, but the Wii underrated? You're talking about the highest selling console being overrated...

While there are games like MadWorld and No More Heroes, that's basically it. When was the last time you saw Nintendo actually make an M game? I think you're wrong with 3rd party support. Apart from Capcom, Konami, Ubisoft, EA which you can really take off the list seeing as they make shovelware on the console it's mostly awful shovelware games.

And Nintendo just abandoned their fanbase just to make exercising games.
You're right about the 360 being overrated, but the Wii underrated? You're talking about the highest selling console being overrated...

While there are games like MadWorld and No More Heroes, that's basically it. When was the last time you saw Nintendo actually make an M game? I think you're wrong with 3rd party support. Apart from Capcom, Konami, Ubisoft, EA which you can really take off the list seeing as they make shovelware on the console it's mostly awful shovelware games.

And Nintendo just abandoned their fanbase just to make exercising games.

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360 is, to an extent, overrated. I mainly say this because of the fanboys going "360 IZ TEH BST CONSLE EVAR!!! IT HAS HALO!!!!!1111!!". Though the system itself (aside from RRoD) is very nice, interface is amazing, and the controller is the best I've ever used (exception of hack & slash games, PS DualShock is better for that).

Wii? Underrated? Hell no. It's overrated. The games are, for the most part, gimmicky. You do have the occasional amazing game, like the Mario games(naturally), Zelda(it's hard to screw up a Zelda game), No More Heroes(hilarious, fun, attractive, good story, awesome), Smash Brothers Brawl(same as Zelda). Besides that, the games are generally crap. It's not a system for us hardcore gamers, or, as some people say, real gamers. That's why we have PSP, PS2, PS3, and 360.
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Wii? Underrated? Hell no. It's overrated. The games are, for the most part, gimmicky. You do have the occasional amazing game, like the Mario games(naturally), Zelda(it's hard to screw up a Zelda game), No More Heroes(hilarious, fun, attractive, good story, awesome), Smash Brothers Brawl(same as Zelda). Besides that, the games are generally crap. It's not a system for us hardcore gamers, or, as some people say, real gamers. That's why we have PSP, PS2, PS3, and 360.




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I definitely agree that 360s are overated.
There's nothing they can do (going off specs) that a PS3 can't do, but there is a lot of things they can't do that PS3's can do.
Halo. Yeah it's an alright game but not worth getting a whole system for.
And about the Wii being underrated. I wouldn't say it's underrated.
I just think people don't understand what it is supposed to do.
It isn't supposed to be a hardcore gaming console. It is for families and groups to have fun and for some to get fit.
That's what it was made for and it does that extremely well IMO.
I definitely agree that 360s are overated.
There's nothing they can do (going off specs) that a PS3 can't do, but there is a lot of things they can't do that PS3's can do.
Halo. Yeah it's an alright game but not worth getting a whole system for.
And about the Wii being underrated. I wouldn't say it's underrated.
I just think people don't understand what it is supposed to do.
It isn't supposed to be a hardcore gaming console. It is for families and groups to have fun and for some to get fit.
That's what it was made for and it does that extremely well IMO.


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If you're going to say the Xbox 360 is overrated, you might as well say the Playstation 3 is overrated as well. I don't see what would make it considered overrated, if anything the PS3 has far more fanboys and gets way more attention, 360 gets far more criticism by PS3 fanboys. So no, it's not overrated.

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I'm a Nintendo fangirl but I do think the Wii is a bit overrated. Still, Nintendo has a big thing going for it that XBOX/360 lacks & that is RPGs. That would be one of the reasons I wouldn't get an XBOX/360(which is definitely overrated) is its lack of RPGs. The other reason I wouldn't get one is my fear of encountering the RRoD....
I'm a Nintendo fangirl but I do think the Wii is a bit overrated. Still, Nintendo has a big thing going for it that XBOX/360 lacks & that is RPGs. That would be one of the reasons I wouldn't get an XBOX/360(which is definitely overrated) is its lack of RPGs. The other reason I wouldn't get one is my fear of encountering the RRoD....

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Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think? As for Wii... I think it's underrated in the sense that it is just misunderstood. People are rating it as if it were designed to be a hardcore gaming system. It's not. The purpose of the Wii is fun family entertainment, and access to some fun classic games. Seriously guys, MadWorld, No More Heroes, and Brawl are meant to be the exception, meant to be one of the few games hardcore gamers will pick up and enjoy.

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Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think? As for Wii... I think it's underrated in the sense that it is just misunderstood. People are rating it as if it were designed to be a hardcore gaming system. It's not. The purpose of the Wii is fun family entertainment, and access to some fun classic games. Seriously guys, MadWorld, No More Heroes, and Brawl are meant to be the exception, meant to be one of the few games hardcore gamers will pick up and enjoy.

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Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
You're forgetting Fable II, Fable III, and... uhhhhh... dang it, I can't think of anything else
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Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
You're forgetting Fable II, Fable III, and... uhhhhh... dang it, I can't think of anything else




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Originally posted by Rasenganfan2
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
You're forgetting Fable II, Fable III, and... uhhhhh... dang it, I can't think of anything else


Meh, i haven't played any of the Fable games, so I can't give my opinion on them.

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Originally posted by Rasenganfan2
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Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
You're forgetting Fable II, Fable III, and... uhhhhh... dang it, I can't think of anything else


Meh, i haven't played any of the Fable games, so I can't give my opinion on them.

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Originally posted by joebab
I just think people don't understand what it is supposed to do.
I know what the Wii is for, it's one of the reasons I don't like it.
It really shouldn't be thought of as a game console but rather a party entertainment system.
But I prefer a party of one (or on a few rare occassions two, but only co-op).
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
Mass Effect isn't 360 exclusive sorry. Fable 2 is but they said Fable was exclusive then they released a better version of it on PC (Lost Chapters) so I don't expect Fable 2 to be exclusive much longer.
Originally posted by Surgiac
Still, Nintendo has a big thing going for it that XBOX/360 lacks & that is RPGs.
Actually the 360 and PS3 probally have more RPGs then the Wii.
I look at a list of Wii RPGs and I see alot of VC games, and I don't count them as Wii games as they are, for example, Snes games playable on Wii.
Probally some of the best RPGs for this gen are on PS3 and maybe one or two on 360 (but Fable 2 isn't one of them)
Originally posted by Davideo7
If you're going to say the Xbox 360 is overrated, you might as well say the Playstation 3 is overrated as well.
Actually it's only recently that I have heard the PS3 get more attention, but it more then deserves it.
Before the PS3 was always at the bottom of the rung and had "no games".
Frankly I would say that the 360 has more "fanboys" while the PS3 has actual fans.
There is a difference in the calibur of the users (though that might have diminished slightly with the release of the slim).
Plus the PS3 is just a superior console (hardware wise), and with more and more games that were "360 exclusive" being released on PS3 and PC the 360 has little appeal left.
Originally posted by joebab
I just think people don't understand what it is supposed to do.
I know what the Wii is for, it's one of the reasons I don't like it.
It really shouldn't be thought of as a game console but rather a party entertainment system.
But I prefer a party of one (or on a few rare occassions two, but only co-op).
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
Mass Effect isn't 360 exclusive sorry. Fable 2 is but they said Fable was exclusive then they released a better version of it on PC (Lost Chapters) so I don't expect Fable 2 to be exclusive much longer.
Originally posted by Surgiac
Still, Nintendo has a big thing going for it that XBOX/360 lacks & that is RPGs.
Actually the 360 and PS3 probally have more RPGs then the Wii.
I look at a list of Wii RPGs and I see alot of VC games, and I don't count them as Wii games as they are, for example, Snes games playable on Wii.
Probally some of the best RPGs for this gen are on PS3 and maybe one or two on 360 (but Fable 2 isn't one of them)
Originally posted by Davideo7
If you're going to say the Xbox 360 is overrated, you might as well say the Playstation 3 is overrated as well.
Actually it's only recently that I have heard the PS3 get more attention, but it more then deserves it.
Before the PS3 was always at the bottom of the rung and had "no games".
Frankly I would say that the 360 has more "fanboys" while the PS3 has actual fans.
There is a difference in the calibur of the users (though that might have diminished slightly with the release of the slim).
Plus the PS3 is just a superior console (hardware wise), and with more and more games that were "360 exclusive" being released on PS3 and PC the 360 has little appeal left.

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Originally posted by DarkHyren
Originally posted by joebab
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
Mass Effect isn't 360 exclusive sorry. Fable 2 is but they said Fable was exclusive then they released a better version of it on PC (Lost Chapters) so I don't expect Fable 2 to be exclusive much longer.


Shows you how much I follow 360 . I'd heard it was exclusive, guess I was wrong. So, I'd better change that to "good exclusive games: Halo." Wow, that's even worse.

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Originally posted by bignatealpha
Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect.
Mass Effect isn't 360 exclusive sorry. Fable 2 is but they said Fable was exclusive then they released a better version of it on PC (Lost Chapters) so I don't expect Fable 2 to be exclusive much longer.


Shows you how much I follow 360 . I'd heard it was exclusive, guess I was wrong. So, I'd better change that to "good exclusive games: Halo." Wow, that's even worse.

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I don't think either is over or under-rated.... it's just about what you're looking for in a gaming system.

I would never buy a 360 or a PS3 right now. I would much rather have a wii. I'm all about the group games and the "fun/family" stuff. I'd rather get up and swing my arms around like an idiot than sit motionless for hours on end.

Plus I just don't care about "hardcore" gaming. But that's just me.


I don't think either is over or under-rated.... it's just about what you're looking for in a gaming system.

I would never buy a 360 or a PS3 right now. I would much rather have a wii. I'm all about the group games and the "fun/family" stuff. I'd rather get up and swing my arms around like an idiot than sit motionless for hours on end.

Plus I just don't care about "hardcore" gaming. But that's just me.

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I'd have to say that the Xbox 360 is overated, but the Wii certainly isn't underated. There are ony a few games that you really need the Wii to 'feel the action' (Like Wii fit), but apart from that, the Wii is not as good as it claims to be.


I'd have to say that the Xbox 360 is overated, but the Wii certainly isn't underated. There are ony a few games that you really need the Wii to 'feel the action' (Like Wii fit), but apart from that, the Wii is not as good as it claims to be.

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I think all systems are overrated PS3 I would say is most underrated of the bunch (Wii & Xbox) but thats just from my view.

There are only 3 so all of them are exposed and overrated in popularity as it is.

Reminds me a lot of Mcdonalds, Burgerking, and Wendys


I think all systems are overrated PS3 I would say is most underrated of the bunch (Wii & Xbox) but thats just from my view.

There are only 3 so all of them are exposed and overrated in popularity as it is.

Reminds me a lot of Mcdonalds, Burgerking, and Wendys

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Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think?d

Ahhh but you forgot to mention crackdown, fable2, gears of war, saints row, and perfect dark zero. not to mention that it has a lot more dlc which i read is because while the psn is free and will have a free option even after they start the paid service charges fees to the game makers.
also i think the 360 is overrated in a sense but so is every console it all depends who you are talking too. but i own a wii and i struggle to find that many games i want for it. there are the obvious choices mario games for example but most games aren't aimed at my age group.
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think?d

Ahhh but you forgot to mention crackdown, fable2, gears of war, saints row, and perfect dark zero. not to mention that it has a lot more dlc which i read is because while the psn is free and will have a free option even after they start the paid service charges fees to the game makers.
also i think the 360 is overrated in a sense but so is every console it all depends who you are talking too. but i own a wii and i struggle to find that many games i want for it. there are the obvious choices mario games for example but most games aren't aimed at my age group.

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Originally posted by metal572
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think?d

Ahhh but you forgot to mention crackdown, fable2, gears of war, saints row, and perfect dark zero.



Let's see: haven't played; already said I haven't played; not the kind of game I really like (I prefer my shooters first-person, and am not that big on "take cover, shoot, strategically advance, take cover shoot" kind of games... I'm more of an "all guns blazing, take 'em out before they hit you, only take cover when swarmed" kind of player); not only is Saints Row something I morally can't stand for, but it is also (from what I've read) a GTA clone, and from what I've heard, not a very good one at that; I haven't even heard of this one. I don't particularly care for the 360.

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Originally posted by metal572
Originally posted by bignatealpha
Of course the 360 is overrated. Not like really, really overrated, but overrated to a degree. Let's see, good exclusive games: Halo and Mass Effect. Wow, uh, little underwhelming, don't you think?d

Ahhh but you forgot to mention crackdown, fable2, gears of war, saints row, and perfect dark zero.



Let's see: haven't played; already said I haven't played; not the kind of game I really like (I prefer my shooters first-person, and am not that big on "take cover, shoot, strategically advance, take cover shoot" kind of games... I'm more of an "all guns blazing, take 'em out before they hit you, only take cover when swarmed" kind of player); not only is Saints Row something I morally can't stand for, but it is also (from what I've read) a GTA clone, and from what I've heard, not a very good one at that; I haven't even heard of this one. I don't particularly care for the 360.

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I'm not a huge fan of any of the current systems but I would prefer a PS3 over any of them.
So I guess that makes me a PS3 fan. So I'll address that comment.
You're half right. The 360 has some good games (though nearly none of the really good ones are exclusive to the 360) but the system itself sucks.

But if we're generalizing, if most PS3 fans are arrogant, then most 360 fans are 12 year olds, casuals or jocks.
And none of them have any taste in games
I'm not a huge fan of any of the current systems but I would prefer a PS3 over any of them.
So I guess that makes me a PS3 fan. So I'll address that comment.
You're half right. The 360 has some good games (though nearly none of the really good ones are exclusive to the 360) but the system itself sucks.

But if we're generalizing, if most PS3 fans are arrogant, then most 360 fans are 12 year olds, casuals or jocks.
And none of them have any taste in games

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