So currently I'm sitting at 17, 570.6 cp or somewhere around the latter and the last ladder of CP bonus stops at 100k.



So really, I've got to ask? What's gonna be left for non staff members if they reach this limit?  I'm currently tier 3 in CP bonus.


Right now I'm feeling like guys who are doing and getting CP aren't being rewarded,  People who fund money on Patreon are actually getting more benefits then those who spend time doing CP actions.



And yeah I get it,  Money doesn't come around and that's a big reason as to why Patreon members should be awarded they way they are.

But I'd like to see Contribution Points mean something outside of Additional Viz.

SuperCrash64 : What exactly do you mean by outside additional viz?, Like being able to get certain vizzed market items free depending on how much   Contribution Points you have?or being able to spend Contribution Points on  stuff or like get addition perks depending on how much CP you have? (honestly there isn't to much you can do with the Contribution point system given its only function is to measure your contributions to the site) 

Divine Aurora :

Well I've had a few ideas that may come to mind:

For each tier of Contribution points, you get a certain percentage off of Vizzed Market items.



Some minor perks like Color name changing wouldn't hurt,  but because people pay a big price to access those features I think it should be fair to have them get a huge amount of CP.



That and I know I'll sound ridiculous but I feel like it should evaluate some members so they could either qualify for staff or other possible ranks when they reach a certain CP amount.





But I'd guess these Ideas would sound a little too greedy and would probably interfere with the patreon system, so I'd doubt any changes will happen. It's just some Ideas I'd figure I'd throw out there.

CP is only meant as a way to measure how much a member contributes in terms of content. All actions that make Vizzed more "complete" earn you CP, and having a high amount means that you spend a lot of time doing actions to increase the amount of content and/or its quality in the site.

The biggest contributors pursue no reward, we strive to make the site better with our actions. We're proud of our work, so being considered between the top 10 or higher contributors in terms of site content is an honor.

SuperCrash64 : Eh I don't think Patronage should have anything really to do with Contribution Points to a certain extent, which is kinda why you don't get any CP or Viz through doing it like a normal donation instead you just get a boost on the amount of CP and Viz earned per action. But as far as Contribution Points go they really should only be used for determining the rank of Site staff in my opinion just because the other ranks are based on behavior and attitude on the board.

But I do agree once you get a certain amount of Contribution Points you should get perks but then again I feel as though giving perks would lower the quality of content being submitted, like for example to become a trusted member you need 1,000 cp so a member goes and plagiarizes 2 reviews and a walkthrough just to become trusted. 

It would be cool to get some perks for CP, but CP isn't something that should be rewarded much for really. CP in itself is the accomplishment of doing things, and just ranks how much you do. Just like how your number of posts and words get added up and displayed, CP just gives a similar value to everything that you do. Logging in every day for 10 years and doing nothing would get you roughly 5000 CP once you start adding the multipliers, but getting CP for only logging in is nothing. Things that offer more CP work the same way. Write a review and you can get 100 CP or even much more, but you already get an enhanced reward for writing a review, you get 5 times as much Viz per word, the CP just shows the number of stuff you did.

Alrighty then I've had my responses and this is a no go.


zanderlex : I agree on the observation, but I can't ever imagine someone logging on this site for 10 years straight considering most of us go inactive within some of the few years.


Divine Aurora :  Again, good observation.   But it seems you've forgotten that CP and Viz get removed if someone's caught cheating the system in any given way possible.



I really didn't think of CP as just another measurement, but I thought it was something that took time and rewarded people.  



For Example, Some of you guys mentioned that Reviews are easy to get Viz and CP with that's true, but it still takes time to develop the entire post.

Arguably the biggest time consuming role is the Video recording, because you need around an hour worth of footage for it to count.


Local Mods : Please close this if you can and thanks.

Being in the top 15 CP earners on the site I actually disagree with this idea. Like EX Palen said it's only meant as a way to measure your contribution. It's not a very accurate way of doing so though since some actions can't be gauged and some earn you CP faster than others. An example being character managing which for a long while gave CP at something like 3x the rate most other actions did until the gain was lowered. I also think giving other rewards besides increasing Viz earned would be unfair to people who have roles that can't award CP (minecraft server managers or in my case chat managing for example). 

It would also lower the value of Viz which I think would be bad for the site. David has been working hard to increase the value of Viz especially with implementing the new market and a change like this seems like it could reverse much of that.

Lastly, if this is done people would go out of their way to increase their CP gain. In other words meaning people might submit sloppy content by spamming screenshots, ratings and so on because they'd care more about the rewards than helping the site. Which is something we deal with enough during the TdV and don't need more of outside of it. There already is a reward in the form of more Viz and increased site recognition, anyone helping the site because they actually want to help it shouldn't need any more than that.

Divine Aurora :  
I saw someone get Trusted in under 8 days before, and having less than 100 CP lol. They spent their first few days in chat, and enough people gave them TP to hit the rank. You just have to reach 5 TP to become Trusted, and maybe also meet the requirements for being a Member.
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I'm a little confused by your question "what's going to be left for non-staff when they hit the last tier?" You get the exact same benefits from CP we do. The only difference is the Staff position itself, not the CP count or it's benefits.

But yes, I agree with the majority here. Contribution Points should really just be a measure of how much someone has submitted content / put effort into helping the site offer more to users. I'm not saying there shouldn't be other perks for it (and to some extent there is, like being considered more seriously for a Staff position), but if so it should be along the same lines as what is already there.

People already employ shady tactics to earn Viz for what they want, and would do the same thing for CP if it offered more (which would require even more monitoring of the system).

As a contributing member, I look at CP like how much a person can bench press at my gym.

It's an easy number to look at and point and say, "Wow, look at how much CP I have!"

There's a thread dedicated to bragging about your CP.

But Contribution Points come from logging in and writing things. Let's look at the top 100 CP earners and really evaluate their contributions to the website. Are they actually making things any better? Sure, they're adding posts to threads but what's the value of those threads? Sometimes, just saying "Yeah, me too!" and getting likes because you agree with people will add up to a lot of CP. And it doesn't reflect the true value of what you're doing.

I add content where it might contribute to a conversation. I try to participate where it makes a difference and there's something of interest. I have no idea how many CP I have, even though I can go look and see if I wanted. To me, it's just another little merit badge to feel good about for those who think it's important. CP don't have any other value, nor should they as far as I'm concerned.

I think the thoughts, SuperCrash. Maybe someone will find a use for CP that will fall in line with what you're looking for. That would be creative and add another wrinkle the activity on Vizzed. It would encourage people to post more, perhaps.

You're asking. That's good.

In theory, It was made to also messure just how much staff were doing and made it easier for David and/or tRIUNE to keep up on how much a user is doing for their particular staff job. For other users, its basically useless. It cant be speant or anything. Yes, it would be cool to get the most CP and its nice to earn something other than Viz from actions, but its literally pointless to anyone below a staff rank.

I mean, yeah, that's your point, that its pointless to those users, but its kinda the point. And I agree that people would abuse the system if he added some Viz perks unless he set it to some crazy high amount, but then it'd be impossible for the people that actually do put in the work to get it.

*Maybe* it could be for users trusted an above, the whole Viz perks. Atleast it wouldnt give people access right away and be a bit of a hassle to get it. As well as based on being actually trustworthy.

Local Mods :

I asked for this to be closed since yesterday.

What Am I paying you guys for? Lol

Local Mod summons don't work atm. I didn't get either summon, nor did I see you request it to be closed until now. Sorry :s.

~Closed due to user's request~