So naturally whenever I tell someone I think unicorns are real, they look at me like I'm crazy and say they aren't real you've never seen one they don't exist and I reply simply you believe in a "God" and I've never seen one of those either, they don't exist.So what I'm getting at is why do people choose to blindly follow and believe in something they haven't seen or even been proven to exist?, blindly following words and live there lives and make decisions based from an old book,text or scroll etc. written from a time that was drastically different from a time we know today. Is it out of faith, do you need something to believe in when times to get hard?

Well here's just my opinion and views on faith(religion) in general.Religion is a tool of war designed as a way to keep countries, society, and individuals divided and in constant conflict, point blank period.I feel as though places of "worship" are the biggest scams of all time and there only used for lining the preachers pockets, lol every religious gathering or function never fails they collect money,(I'd run this scam myself if I knew I wouldn't get caught).I think every religious text/story was simply a form of communicating a set of moral guidelines for early man to follow because they were basically lawless. And I feel half of the stories told in these religious texts were purely for entertainment and used as a way to show people the idea of what "good" morals were/are.



But To bottom line it why do you believe in the faith you follow?

tornadocam : You should thank the medical professional for his skill and the fact that he simply knew what he was doing and was a doctor trained in his profession and probably was used to preforming such delicate operations(going out on a limb and say you weren't his first patient) .It's one of those things where people try to pray away an illness doesn't work I'm glad you went to a medical professional. As far as Jesus being God in the flesh, wasn't he just a "prophet" or son of Mary and Joseph or son of "God" so to speak and to consider him a god is kinda blasphemous after all "You shall have no other gods before me". The bible itself is contradictory and in my opinion a book of tale tales but I suppose every tale starts based on a truth.As for the comment "The ancient Romans wrote a lot of stuff down and Jesus was referenced several times. Proving that Jesus existed." That doesn't necessarily prove anything..at all it especially doesn't prove an individuals existence I'm sure people back then get bored like we do now and took to story telling just as some of us do now but i don't know maybe Jesus existed anythings possible, but you have my interest in Christianity

Also I'm glad you made it through your operations man.

My reasons is because he saved my life countless times. I'm mentally disabled and was born with a lot of conditions. I am not actually meant to be alive but dead. But I am somehow living because of him. There were times I came close to death to the point I may had seen him...I choose to believe in god for that and for some other reasons as well. I tend to ignore those telling me not to believe in god. Even though you can not seen him I feel he is around. A lot of people have become bias towards that. There are others who have their opinion's about god which I don't bother to go out of my way. I mean everyone has their opinion's of if they like god or not for whatever reasons.

Celestial not all christian are as bad as you think there are others who don't crazily go out and force and preach to people to say come to church or believe in god. I believe that is not the best way to go around it. No one will become a christian if people constantly go off peoples heads to force them to join their church. I don't mention god in a lot of my convos with my friends here because I respect what they have to say. I only talk about go with any christian friends I have online here as that makes me comfortable. I only mention god a few times. If I would have to tell someone about my past and what I went through in order to be the person I am today.

Tornadocam is right in his own ways I don't think you might understand what he has to say. But I will say a bit. There HAS been miracles done to keep people alive and for those who have seen that are the lucky ones. That would be the proof to say god is real. lemme tell you something ok? I caught a very bad virus years ago it was so bad the docs said they wasn't sure if I was going to make it alive. My face and whole body was so pale to the point I wasn't recognized properly among my family. Until then god came....and heal me. You don't have to believe but most of us has experienced maybe something you haven't gone through just yet. Its nature for most people not to believe in god while there are others who do and stick with that no matter what. I hope this answers some of your question's.

I believe in him for a large pile of reasons. . . but in the end, I'm not certain how many people would really care to hear them. Even by posting them, maybe someone whishing for a challenge might try to take down what I say? And I gave up all that time I used to spend debating in exchange for writing months ago.

But anyways. I do, believe in a creator. I find the best term to call him by is Yahova, as the ancient Hebrew people did. His law makes the most sense, and I perceive would bring the greatest amount of happiness to mankind if it were all kept. And for another note along with that. . . I doubt this Universe could exist without one.

It doesn't make sense to me that perhaps by some means of Science a Universe can come from nothing. Even if such a ruleset exists that allows a Universe to come from nothing, who created such a mathematical ruleset which made it possible?

I'm going to go with the option of spirituality and the possibility that there are bigger things going on here. Most people I find in life do believe in God. It's just religiously they don't know much about him and follow their conscious. Which is good to a degree.

Miracles? Oh yes, I've had one with my car actually. The thing is, I don't think that many people would believe it, and I'm not sure I would want to post it here. It's that crazy. But, it's because of things like that in my life, and even more advanced studies in the scientific realm that I believe in him.

Cool fact: Unicorns actually exist in the Bible- just not the kind your thinking of.

I do consider most of the Bible historically accurate. The only qualms I have with it are some texts in the New Testament being hijacked/mistranslated purposefully by the Catholic Church during the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine. But that's just another huge topic I'd rather not get into here. XP

Let me sum it up in one phrase: something you know, but cannot explain.

In the end, it's all about believing. My uncle himself underwent surgery for a brain tumour that got him in a coma for several days, and still doesn't believe in any religion. Everyone has his own beliefs, and religion is not an exception.

In my blunt opinion, I could care less about religions. As I said above, I have my own belief, and while I do have some kind of "proof", it's impossible to explain. Other than that, I believe what science can empirically demonstrate. Sure, not all investigations have produced good results, or sometimes even real results, but the relevant ones have been demonstrated far and wide.

Religion is not a tool for war. No god would order to kill. That only happened in the early myths in the Roman Empire and the Greek Mythology, and we are way past that. It's not either a tool to divide people. As I said, everyone has their own beliefs, so when a certain someone starts a new doctrine imposing some changes over the main one, divisions are expected to happen, like with Protestants, Lutherans or Orthodox Christians. Any ideology is prone to divide its followers: politics, industries, even sports teams.

You're free to believe what you want to believe if you have a reason for it. I understand why tornadocam or Eni have  faith, but simply saying "I believe", with no proof or experience or whatsoever, is just being a bigmouth.

Unicorns were real and are even mentioned the Bible, it may be a metaphor, but if it says unicorn then they must have known what unicorns are. Whoever says that doesn't have their facts straight and are making a fairy tale out of something that actually could be true. Just as dinosaurs, dragons, and leviathans were real. But I believe both that and in God. If God can make anything, then why not a beautiful horse with a single horn on its head? He did it with narwhals. So yeah, believe in what you believe. It's not like believing in unicorns goes against religion or anything. That would just be ridiculous.

Celestial Knight : Technically there is a mutation in which the horns twist together to form a sort of spire upon their head, which is essentially a unicorn.

Believing in something that has a physical form is much different than having faith in a god which you cannot see. There's several reasons why someone would have faith in what you can't see, so it can't really be generalized.

Since you can explain how we are here, but not why we are here, some people choose to believe in a god to make somewhat rational sense of the why's in life.

That may seem illogical to some, but given how there's a lot of unexplained things in life, it's safe to assume that there's a higher power that created us to not be smart enough to understand such things.

Another reason could be that instead of just dying when you die, some people like the thought of there being a heaven where you can eternally live in harmony with all of creation, a happy place. This also means that they believe in hell, but they feel that is better than just dying and then nothing happens. This is a rather uncommon way of rationalization only present in little kids so it doesn't really have much practical application in understanding the way christians rationalize, but really it's just an example that there's reasons why they believe in something that doesn't have a physical form.

In short, unicorns technically exist, and putting God in the equation makes sense of a lot of things, so a lot of people do that.

At least, that's how I understand it. but I'd rather let people talk for themselves.

   There is plenty of evidence that points to a supernatural creator of all things. There is no 'God of the gaps'. That's a myth. It's should be 'science of the gaps' since we only have the barest understanding of how the universe works. And ultimately, beyond the planck scale we can never know. Only 4% of the universe consists of ordinary matter that we can detect. The rest is dark energy and matter which we only have the barest theories on. Besides the complexity of a single human cell when studied in detail makes you question blind evolution.

   On the other hand there is plenty of archaeological evidence to support stories in the Bible. and Jesus Christ did exist. There are no unicorn skeletons to be found however. But, if you believe in a multiverse, then unicorns surely do exist. Along with unicorn-people. And purple people. And pink elephants. And a universe where everything is exactly the same except for I didn't decide to reply to your post.

TheBWoods15 : That actually depends on the translation. Most bibles I've encountered say 'wild ox'.  KJV says unicorn though. They were known, from Greek myths anyways.

yoshirulez:
TheBWoods15 :
The unicorn bit was a joke, something witty I threw together as a cheesey one liner, it wasn't meant to be taken so literally or seriously.

I have to applaud everyone though for answering my general question and I appreciate the answers. By the way to everyone who responded I want to get a degree in psychology that's why I ask certain questions to kind of comb people's heads and attempt to see things thru there perspective so with that said thank you all for replying

tornadocam :
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Celestial Knight : I think maybe you would get a better response if you didn't state your own views before the question. And the unicorn thing is insulting.

Ferdinand : Sorry If I offended you or anyone else with the unicorn bit, I wasn't trying to insult anyone I was just trying to get a cheap laugh, add a little bit of satire, but I think your right about stating my views before the question because people tend to focus more on my views rather than the question.

Celestial Knight : You'd have to do a lot more than that to offend me. But I've heard that childish argument too many times. Whether you were just joking or not. It's a straw man. Usually it's the Easter Bunny though or spaghetti with wings. Peace.

as someone who has read the bible it says unicorns exist or existed but that means a wild boar in the bible i know it makes no sense but it's there

To preface this post, I would like to say that I am not trying to convert you. If you don't want to believe, I would waste my time to try to do so, much like you would waste your time trying to convince me to be an atheist. I am simply answering your question.
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I'll be up front with you: everyone believes in something blindly.

Since you don't believe in God, I assume you believe in evolution. In which case you surely must know that you cannot prove everything you believe about evolution, yet you believe it. You explain what you can, and blindly buy into the rest.

It's the same with us believers: we can explain a good many things, but when it all comes down to it, there are some things that we cannot really prove. And so yes, we blindly buy into what the Bible says about it.

Therefore, religious beliefs cannot be rejected entirely. Your religious beliefs are that God is not real. Still, you believe that.


By way of analogy: look at your favorite game console/PC. Have you ever seen the data traveling through the chips inside of it? No, no one has. We just have chips in the system and images on a screen and sounds in the speakers etc. and we say data computation has caused this to happen. We see what we consider evidence, and so believe that such a thing is truly happening the way we're told it is.

Again, you flip a light switch and believe that the light will come on. You have no way of truly knowing that the bulb will work, nor do you know if the wiring or switch is bad, but you still believe it'll happen. Believing in God or evolution is kind of the same in that there are things involved that you cannot see, nor have the ability to know, but you just believe it.

Can God's existence be scientifically proven? No. Can it be scientifically proven that He does not exist? No. We are all forced then to blindly believe one way or the other, and the believer knows that such is the case as Jesus Himself told us "Blessed is he who hath not seen, and yet hath believed". If you saw God, you couldn't "believe", you would just know.

The long and short of it is this: we as humans ALL feel lost and are simply groping around in our blindness trying to find something to believe in. Some choose God and others choose other things. We all NEED something to put our trust in, and for believers, the solution is God.


I for one believed blindly until I found proof in my personal life. Proof that I will share some of here, but I doubt anyone who doesn't believe in God would every believe happened.
First, He filled me with His spirit. I feel Him. I spoke in other tongues (please, do me this favor: don't mock tongues. Say whatever else you want, just leave that be. It's too sacred and dear to a Pentecostal's heart. Plus if there's the smallest chance you're wrong, it's the most dangerous thing to mock).
Next, I have seen visible manifestations of His spirit, namely a fog that came out of the room I and several others were in praying for someone to receive the Holy Ghost, to such a point that it covered the entire acre of land the trailer sat on and remained for half a day.
And the biggest proof: I saw a woman (my mother) with a broken leg being prayed for. She afterward stood up and walked just like before. I know the bone was broken before they prayed for her because it was sticking out. Yes, this was immediate, and it was at church. No doctor was involved.


Also the vast majority of fulltime pastors and preachers are from from having money lined pockets. lol All that I personally know struggle financially. Though yes, there are some who make a lot of money, I'm just saying it usually has nothing to do with making money.



As for your comments on the Bible: the Bible has yet to be disproven. It has prophesied things centuries before they happened (the fall of the Berlin wall, the formation of the United States, the regathering of Israel, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, and in the opinions of some, World War II and the disaster of Chernobyl). And many more of it's prophecies are being fulfilled in modern times. Pretty lucky guesses if not inspired.

And TRUE Christianity is the exact opposite of a war tool. It teaches tolerance and love. Yes it teaches a definite right and wrong, but what's so wrong with a moral guideline? True Christians do not hate anyone no matter what they do, nor do they hurt or kill anyone else. Many other religions, yes, but not true Christianity. The Bible instructs us to be quite the opposite of what you described. I mean nothing against you, I simply assume you are not entirely familiar with the Bible and what it teaches, at least not for yourself. There is more to it than reading from start to finish like a book, it must be divided properly, and it teaches you how to do so as well. If you sit down with someone who can tell you what the Bible truly teaches, I'm sure your opinion on at least that much would be changed.

I do agree though that there are many people running around calling themselves Christians that are hateful and hurt people. Those people are liars. Plain and simple. Just like not all people that call themselves atheists are a good example of atheists, not everyone that says they believe is a good example of a Christian.


I hope this helps you with your study, and makes sense.

I am editing this out it. the previous post is not needed anymore.

Personally I am a Christian.  While you cannot prove in God's existence, to me it just seems like the universe is to perfect to have just spontaneously occurred.  If charges of electrons or protons were slightly different then the universe would essentially fall apart and nothing would exist.  It seems to me that everything is to perfect for the creation of the universe without some sort of higher being involved.

tornadocam : I'm glad you survived those things. However, what do we say to the families of the thousands of others who succumbed to those things? "Oh well, God didn't think their life was worth living anymore." I do applaud the resolve of people that have faith, though: they can keep it even in the face of great unfairness. A drunk driver kills someone and the family says "it was his/her time." Meanwhile, the drunk driver lived. Doesn't seem fair and just to me. So, that's one of my main issues with belief, although as time goes along, I have become much less militant of an atheist and opened my mind to alternate theories about why we're here.

Eirinn :

You're so wrong it's almost funny. Science has proven evolution time and again. Yet there is absolutely no proof that any god of any sort exists. Unless one can find some DNA evidence of Jesus? I'm sure there's been more DNA of mankind/life found that proves we've been around longer than even the bible states our age is, whether it be worlds age or humankind's age. It's called blind faith you know. I find it better to believe and find out there isn't, rather than not to believe and find out there is a god though. Ergo, that's mankind in a nutshell.