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Anime Discussion: Is Obito Uchiha really Naruto's worst antagonist?

 

01-05-15 05:48 PM
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Welp,the holidays are over.Back to the grind...

Alrighty,i don't usually do discussions about specific characters.As i like to focus on controversial topics about the medium of anime,not just anime itself.But hey,eventually i run out of ideas and focus on a specific anime,or anime character.So for all the Naruto fans out there,it's time to get down to buisness.Let's talk Obito Uchiha.

Regarded  as one of the worst,if not the worst villain in the entire Naruto series.And believe it or not..I am having a hard time trying to understand why.I mean sure,he is rather cliche,and his goals are completely deluded,and have a ton of holes in them.However,i would argue that most Naruto villians are that way.Just look at Sasuke,and when he went on a rebellion for years.He got to teen girl levels of B*tching,and complaining about stuff.

But as my grandfather always said,"It's not fair for a lesser evil,to point fingers at a bigger evil.Instead,it's best to focus on what makes the two figures evil in the first place,and fix them." It's like two serial killers saying that they should get less jail time,because another serial killer murdered more people then him/her.The point is,YOU STILL KILLED SOMEBODY!

Man i miss that old man..Anyway,back to the topic.I believe i should get down to the reason why Obito is such a disliked character.As the best way to fix someones problem with something,is to figure out exactly what that person takes offense with in the first place.From what i have read on forums,people tend to dislike him because..Well,to simplify it,"He keeps complaining about how the world sucks,and how much he misses Rin."

And yes,it's very easy to dislike him for that reason.And i admit,i was on that same boat to.However,i have come to the conclusion that Naruto antagonist are..Well,here's my theory.Most of them are VERY stupid,beyond belief.Or they are very well thought out characters,that require you to study there psychology,in order to fully understand.And to be honest,most of the time i go with the ladder.

I have also come to the conclusion that in order to understand Obito,you REALLY need to get inside his mind.Picture yourself as him.Completely think about it,from his point of view.And in my opinion,the best way to do that,is to watch episodes 345-346,back to back.These may be my favorite episodes,in the entire Shippuden series.This will really get you inside Obito's head.This also proves that some filler episodes,are actually worth watching sometimes.
This episode shows you nearly everything about the character.His relationship with Kakashi and Rin,and how he became involved with Madara.It's very interesting to be honest.

The fact is,after Rins death,Obito wanted a world,where she could still be alive again.Where there was nothing but peace.And in my eyes,that's understandable.Being inside your own little world,where you can have whatever you want,whenever you want is intruiguing.However,that is not reality.The way nature is,just isn't like that.The easiest thing to compare this to,is the ecosystem.But hey,we are geeks,not nerds.Since we geeks don't want to hear about that science crap from me,i believe Edward Elric can explain it better than i can.

"Once we die,our bodies become soil.That soil helps plants grow.Those plants will feed herbivores.Those Herbivores will feed carnivores.And once those creatures die,the cycle will repeat.Putting everything back in balance."

Man..I love Fullmetal Alchemist.Anyhow,the point is that reality kind of sucks.But you must realise that nearly every type of painful thing you can think of,will benifit the world.Here's another example.An herbivore getting killed by a carnivore to feed the carnivores children,is benificial.It feeds the young ones,and once the body is decomposed,it will become soil that will grow plants and assist other herbivores.

See? All pain can help something.Maybe not you,but something else.Sadly,Obito does not understand this fact.After Rins death,Obito was dull,bitter,and hurt.Trying to find anyway,to dull the pain.This is where Madara's ideals came in."A perfect world,full of anything you can ever imagine." And i must admit,if i were in a state of such mental pain,i may give into that crap to.

The fact is that that world does not exist,you can only pretend it exist.Though you could argue that Obito could technically create a different plane of reality,that does not require our plane of reality,to even exist....Which makes everything i said here completely nullified..Huh,i just found a plot hole in my entire thread..Moving on.

Obito's actions are the equivalent of someone giving up on there religion,or ideals,in a time of great pain.Resorting to drugs,or drinking.He was basically brainwashed by Madara.Which is exactly why his speeches are so repetitive.He was just recycling everything Madara told him.The best way to describe him,is calling him Madara lite.He has no real care for his speeches,or ideals.He was just clinging onto something,that felt comforting in a time of pain.While also not knowing that the thing be believed to be helpful,was actaully hurting him.
The best way to put it,is..Well,hate to quote another character,but Ciel Phantomhive has some very good quotes!

"Even if all there is to cling to is a thread from a spiders web,i will cling to it for dear life,if it can drag me out of the pits of hell."

And i believe what i said covered 1 out of 2 reasons why people dislike the character,now it's time to get to the 2nd.

"RIN! WAAAAAH! WAAAAAH! I'M GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD,AND MAKE IT PERFECT!"

Something i like to call,Light Yagami syndrome.On a more serious note,lets talk about Rin,and how it affected Obito.To put it short,Rin represents Obito's past,and ideals.After he saw her death,all of those fond memories,and ideals,died with her.Believe it or not,Obito did not completely give into Madara's thinking.There was a subconscious part of him,that did cling to the past.This very subconscious,is the thing that made him do all of this.He is giving into the evil he despised,just to get the past back.That does not work out.

Now finally after all of this,i have to ask the question,is Obito Uchiha a bad character? No.In my eyes he is fine.It's just that his psychology and goals were not explained well enough.And once again,he complains,alot! More than Ganta Igarashi.If only he was explained a bit better.Anyhow,i have nothing else to say.I'll just be getting to the outro here.

To end this,i would like to ask you guys what you think of Obito? Do you think he is an underated gem? Or just some stupid wack job? Anyhow,if you excuse me,i have more characters to complain about.See yah next time.*Waves.*

This is what i am going to be talking about next..That thread will be very long,i promise you.

Welp,the holidays are over.Back to the grind...

Alrighty,i don't usually do discussions about specific characters.As i like to focus on controversial topics about the medium of anime,not just anime itself.But hey,eventually i run out of ideas and focus on a specific anime,or anime character.So for all the Naruto fans out there,it's time to get down to buisness.Let's talk Obito Uchiha.

Regarded  as one of the worst,if not the worst villain in the entire Naruto series.And believe it or not..I am having a hard time trying to understand why.I mean sure,he is rather cliche,and his goals are completely deluded,and have a ton of holes in them.However,i would argue that most Naruto villians are that way.Just look at Sasuke,and when he went on a rebellion for years.He got to teen girl levels of B*tching,and complaining about stuff.

But as my grandfather always said,"It's not fair for a lesser evil,to point fingers at a bigger evil.Instead,it's best to focus on what makes the two figures evil in the first place,and fix them." It's like two serial killers saying that they should get less jail time,because another serial killer murdered more people then him/her.The point is,YOU STILL KILLED SOMEBODY!

Man i miss that old man..Anyway,back to the topic.I believe i should get down to the reason why Obito is such a disliked character.As the best way to fix someones problem with something,is to figure out exactly what that person takes offense with in the first place.From what i have read on forums,people tend to dislike him because..Well,to simplify it,"He keeps complaining about how the world sucks,and how much he misses Rin."

And yes,it's very easy to dislike him for that reason.And i admit,i was on that same boat to.However,i have come to the conclusion that Naruto antagonist are..Well,here's my theory.Most of them are VERY stupid,beyond belief.Or they are very well thought out characters,that require you to study there psychology,in order to fully understand.And to be honest,most of the time i go with the ladder.

I have also come to the conclusion that in order to understand Obito,you REALLY need to get inside his mind.Picture yourself as him.Completely think about it,from his point of view.And in my opinion,the best way to do that,is to watch episodes 345-346,back to back.These may be my favorite episodes,in the entire Shippuden series.This will really get you inside Obito's head.This also proves that some filler episodes,are actually worth watching sometimes.
This episode shows you nearly everything about the character.His relationship with Kakashi and Rin,and how he became involved with Madara.It's very interesting to be honest.

The fact is,after Rins death,Obito wanted a world,where she could still be alive again.Where there was nothing but peace.And in my eyes,that's understandable.Being inside your own little world,where you can have whatever you want,whenever you want is intruiguing.However,that is not reality.The way nature is,just isn't like that.The easiest thing to compare this to,is the ecosystem.But hey,we are geeks,not nerds.Since we geeks don't want to hear about that science crap from me,i believe Edward Elric can explain it better than i can.

"Once we die,our bodies become soil.That soil helps plants grow.Those plants will feed herbivores.Those Herbivores will feed carnivores.And once those creatures die,the cycle will repeat.Putting everything back in balance."

Man..I love Fullmetal Alchemist.Anyhow,the point is that reality kind of sucks.But you must realise that nearly every type of painful thing you can think of,will benifit the world.Here's another example.An herbivore getting killed by a carnivore to feed the carnivores children,is benificial.It feeds the young ones,and once the body is decomposed,it will become soil that will grow plants and assist other herbivores.

See? All pain can help something.Maybe not you,but something else.Sadly,Obito does not understand this fact.After Rins death,Obito was dull,bitter,and hurt.Trying to find anyway,to dull the pain.This is where Madara's ideals came in."A perfect world,full of anything you can ever imagine." And i must admit,if i were in a state of such mental pain,i may give into that crap to.

The fact is that that world does not exist,you can only pretend it exist.Though you could argue that Obito could technically create a different plane of reality,that does not require our plane of reality,to even exist....Which makes everything i said here completely nullified..Huh,i just found a plot hole in my entire thread..Moving on.

Obito's actions are the equivalent of someone giving up on there religion,or ideals,in a time of great pain.Resorting to drugs,or drinking.He was basically brainwashed by Madara.Which is exactly why his speeches are so repetitive.He was just recycling everything Madara told him.The best way to describe him,is calling him Madara lite.He has no real care for his speeches,or ideals.He was just clinging onto something,that felt comforting in a time of pain.While also not knowing that the thing be believed to be helpful,was actaully hurting him.
The best way to put it,is..Well,hate to quote another character,but Ciel Phantomhive has some very good quotes!

"Even if all there is to cling to is a thread from a spiders web,i will cling to it for dear life,if it can drag me out of the pits of hell."

And i believe what i said covered 1 out of 2 reasons why people dislike the character,now it's time to get to the 2nd.

"RIN! WAAAAAH! WAAAAAH! I'M GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD,AND MAKE IT PERFECT!"

Something i like to call,Light Yagami syndrome.On a more serious note,lets talk about Rin,and how it affected Obito.To put it short,Rin represents Obito's past,and ideals.After he saw her death,all of those fond memories,and ideals,died with her.Believe it or not,Obito did not completely give into Madara's thinking.There was a subconscious part of him,that did cling to the past.This very subconscious,is the thing that made him do all of this.He is giving into the evil he despised,just to get the past back.That does not work out.

Now finally after all of this,i have to ask the question,is Obito Uchiha a bad character? No.In my eyes he is fine.It's just that his psychology and goals were not explained well enough.And once again,he complains,alot! More than Ganta Igarashi.If only he was explained a bit better.Anyhow,i have nothing else to say.I'll just be getting to the outro here.

To end this,i would like to ask you guys what you think of Obito? Do you think he is an underated gem? Or just some stupid wack job? Anyhow,if you excuse me,i have more characters to complain about.See yah next time.*Waves.*

This is what i am going to be talking about next..That thread will be very long,i promise you.

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