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11-10-14 11:20 PM
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How did today play out? 
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Here are the final results for the first round of the playoffs:

tornadocam : BYE
MattyIce - BYE
megamanmaniac : BYE
Kruzer : BYE

jparks34 : 7 - 6 record for the week VS
patar4097 : 9 - 4 record WINNER ( has the best record )

mrfe : 9 - 4 record VS
Barathemos : 11 - 2 record WINNER ( has the best record )

pacman1755 : 8 - 5 record VS
A user of this : 10 - 3 WINNER ( has the best record )

styrofoamboots : 10 - 3 record VS
thing1 : 10 - 3 record WINNER ( wins off of tie-breaker 5, see Note 1)


Note 1:
styrofoamboots' and thing1's tie-breaker game was the Panthers @ Eagles game ( the Eagles won 45 - 21 ). They both had the same record for the week, so it goes to tie-breaker #1.
TB1: They both picked the Eagles, and the Eagles won, so it goes to tie-breaker #2.
TB2: styrofoamboots guessed the score to be 37 and thing1 guessed the score to be 31. The actual score was 45. Neither guessed it correctly, so it goes to tie-breaker #3.
TB3: styrofoamboots guessed the score to be 28 and thing1 guessed the score to be 20. The actual score was 21. Neither guessed it correctly, so it goes to tie-breaker #4.
TB4: styrofoamboots' difference was 15 and thing1's difference was 15, so it goes tie-breaker #5.
TB5: thing1 has the higher seed in the playoffs, so he gets to call the coin flip. thing1 called heads, and it was heads. Therefore, thing1 wins.

Here are the final results for the first round of the playoffs:

tornadocam : BYE
MattyIce - BYE
megamanmaniac : BYE
Kruzer : BYE

jparks34 : 7 - 6 record for the week VS
patar4097 : 9 - 4 record WINNER ( has the best record )

mrfe : 9 - 4 record VS
Barathemos : 11 - 2 record WINNER ( has the best record )

pacman1755 : 8 - 5 record VS
A user of this : 10 - 3 WINNER ( has the best record )

styrofoamboots : 10 - 3 record VS
thing1 : 10 - 3 record WINNER ( wins off of tie-breaker 5, see Note 1)


Note 1:
styrofoamboots' and thing1's tie-breaker game was the Panthers @ Eagles game ( the Eagles won 45 - 21 ). They both had the same record for the week, so it goes to tie-breaker #1.
TB1: They both picked the Eagles, and the Eagles won, so it goes to tie-breaker #2.
TB2: styrofoamboots guessed the score to be 37 and thing1 guessed the score to be 31. The actual score was 45. Neither guessed it correctly, so it goes to tie-breaker #3.
TB3: styrofoamboots guessed the score to be 28 and thing1 guessed the score to be 20. The actual score was 21. Neither guessed it correctly, so it goes to tie-breaker #4.
TB4: styrofoamboots' difference was 15 and thing1's difference was 15, so it goes tie-breaker #5.
TB5: thing1 has the higher seed in the playoffs, so he gets to call the coin flip. thing1 called heads, and it was heads. Therefore, thing1 wins.

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So, me and MattyIce discussed an issue with the tie breaker scenario, and we would like your opinion, since more than 2 people are participating in this competition.
Currently, if you look at the first post, you will see the order of the tie breakers. Well, we were thinking about switching the order around from
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 to 1, 4, 2, 3, 5. Do you think that would be more fair? 

Seeds: 
NVC:
1. tornadocam 
2. MattyIce 
3. thing1
4. patar4097
5. jparks34 Eliminated
6. sytofoamboots Eliminated 
SVC:
1. megamanmaniac 
2. Kruzer 
3. Barathemos
4. A user of this
5. pacman1755 Eliminated 
6. mrfe Eliminated 

Here's what the brackets look like: 
North Vizzed Conference 
South Vizzed Conference 

So, here are the match-ups for the Divisional Week:
North Vizzed Conference:
( 4 ) patar4097 @ tornadocam ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Texans @ Browns for your tie breaker. 
( 3 ) thing1 @ MattyIce ( 2 ) Pick the Score of Lions @ Cardinals for your tie breaker.
( 5 ) jparks34 and ( 6 ) styrofoamboots have been eliminated. You do not need to post here, unless you wish to weigh in on something. 
South Vizzed Conference
( 4 ) A user of this @ megamanmaniac ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Falcons @ Panthers for your tie breaker.
( 3 ) Barathemos @ Kruzer ( 2 ) Pick the Score of Raiders @ Chargers for your tie breaker.
( 5 ) pacman1755 and ( 6 ) mrfe have been eliminated. You do not need to post here, unless you wish to weigh in on something. 
 
Post your game, who you think will win, and the score of the game that you are given. Do not post every game here. 


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So, me and MattyIce discussed an issue with the tie breaker scenario, and we would like your opinion, since more than 2 people are participating in this competition.
Currently, if you look at the first post, you will see the order of the tie breakers. Well, we were thinking about switching the order around from
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 to 1, 4, 2, 3, 5. Do you think that would be more fair? 

Seeds: 
NVC:
1. tornadocam 
2. MattyIce 
3. thing1
4. patar4097
5. jparks34 Eliminated
6. sytofoamboots Eliminated 
SVC:
1. megamanmaniac 
2. Kruzer 
3. Barathemos
4. A user of this
5. pacman1755 Eliminated 
6. mrfe Eliminated 

Here's what the brackets look like: 
North Vizzed Conference 
South Vizzed Conference 

So, here are the match-ups for the Divisional Week:
North Vizzed Conference:
( 4 ) patar4097 @ tornadocam ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Texans @ Browns for your tie breaker. 
( 3 ) thing1 @ MattyIce ( 2 ) Pick the Score of Lions @ Cardinals for your tie breaker.
( 5 ) jparks34 and ( 6 ) styrofoamboots have been eliminated. You do not need to post here, unless you wish to weigh in on something. 
South Vizzed Conference
( 4 ) A user of this @ megamanmaniac ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Falcons @ Panthers for your tie breaker.
( 3 ) Barathemos @ Kruzer ( 2 ) Pick the Score of Raiders @ Chargers for your tie breaker.
( 5 ) pacman1755 and ( 6 ) mrfe have been eliminated. You do not need to post here, unless you wish to weigh in on something. 
 
Post your game, who you think will win, and the score of the game that you are given. Do not post every game here. 


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Lions @ Cardinals

Lions win, 23 - 20
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whats the game this week 
whats the game this week 
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tornadocam : If you read my post, you'll see it. 
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Okay 

I'm going with Browns over Texans 30-17
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tornadocam : Can you not read the post I made for this week. Cardinals and Lions is my game. If you read the post, you would have seen this: 
( 4 ) patar4097 @ tornadocam ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Texans @ Browns for your tie breaker. "
tornadocam : Can you not read the post I made for this week. Cardinals and Lions is my game. If you read the post, you would have seen this: 
( 4 ) patar4097 @ tornadocam ( 1 ) Pick the Score of Texans @ Browns for your tie breaker. "
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My bad I did not see that. Fixed it to the right pick again sorry about that 
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My bad I did not see that. Fixed it to the right pick again sorry about that 
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   I'm saying Browns over Texans 27-21. Although, considering tornadocam seems to have beaten me pretty much every week, I don't feel great about my chances.
   I'm saying Browns over Texans 27-21. Although, considering tornadocam seems to have beaten me pretty much every week, I don't feel great about my chances.
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thing1 : My Prediction for Raiders @ Chargers / Chargers win 35 - 7

Regarding the tiebreaker scenario, I would like to keep the order as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 rather than switching it to 1, 4, 2, 3, 5. Also, I have been giving it some thought and I finally decided to offer an addition, if I may. Here is what I was thinking:

FIRST OF ALL
I would like to point out how quickly we have already used All Five Tiebreakers in the First Playoff Game! This is just unbelievable to me because I was not expecting it to reach #5 AT ALL because the odds of that happening had to be very slim. Moving on...

I have grown accustomed to the idea of using "score differential ratios" (which I did not agree on before) but I still believe that the object to this thread is (and has been) to predict who will win the games (in which predicting the actual scores were virtually irrelevant). However, using the score differentials approach is a much better way to determine a winner then to leave it up to a coin flip. Yes, I understand that the beginning of each NFL game starts with the coin flip, but this simple gesture does not necessarily determine the winner of the game itself. The winner of each game is determined by a certain accumulation of statistics that betters one team from the other. So, determining the winner of a tiebreaker by merely announcing a coin flip (which the only thing you would win in the NFL is the coin toss and not the game itself) is therefore, Preposterous!

Winners of NFL games are determined by virtually one statistic; The Final Score. Knowing this, we should determine (by any means necessary) the winner of these games by score. This is why I suggested we use the over-predicted rule which would eliminate anyone who predicted a score that exceeded the actual score, BUT I can see now how this would not work. After saying all of this, I have decided that we should add two more score differential tiebreakers. The first will be added as a Predicted Winner Score Differential to Actual Winner Score Differential tiebreaker after TB2. If the tiebreaker continues, then it will add a Predicted Loser Score Differential to Actual Loser Score Differential tiebreaker after TB3. The following example uses the same order ( TB1, TB2, TB3, TB4, TB5) as in the previous posts and will add the new additions in Underlines below them

Player 1 (record 10-3)
Player 2 (record 10-3)


TB1 - They both picked that the Home Team would Win

TB2 - The Winners Actual Score is 45
           Player 1 predicted 37
           Player 2 predicted 31

(TB3 - Player 1 Predicted Winner Score Differential is 8
           Player 2 Predicted Winner Score Differential is 14
If all preceding tiebreakers lead up to this one, then it would have resulted in a Player 1 victory because he/she is closer to the actual score of the team that won. But, if for some reason these score differentials would be the same, then it continues down the list).


TB4 - The Losers Actual Score is 21
           Player 1 predicts 28
           Player 2 predicts 20

(TB5 - Player 1 Predicted Loser Score Differential is 7
            Player 2 Predicted Loser Score Differential is 1
If all preceding tiebreakers lead up to this one, then it would have resulted in a Player 2 victory because he/she is closer to the actual score of the team that lost. But, if for some reason these score differentials would be the same, then it continues down the list).


TB6 - Player 1 predicted score to actual score difference was 15
           Player 2 predicted score to actual score difference was 15

TB7 - Coin Flip results in Heads, which is called by Player 2, so Player 2 wins.

This idea of mine is meant to weed out the possibility of a coin flip. It was also meant to order the seniority of the tiebreakers. In my opinion, the order should start at TB1 because it rewards those who predict the winners of the games which has been the main plot of this thread the entire time. Next should be TB2 and TB3 because it rewards those in favor of the winning team and, if the Player automatically wins based on predicting the exact score of the team that won, then that Player should also win based on how close they were to predicting the score of the team that won. The same goes for TB4 and TB5, if both Players were equal in predicting the score of the team that won, then it rewards those in favor of the opposing team (naturally, the team that lost). TB6 is next to last because if both Players were equal in predicting the outcome of the team that won AND the team that lost, then it should be determined by the maximum total. As for TB7, that is basically the last straw since both Players would obviously be considered as "equally matched."

LAST BUT NOT LEAST
If you do not accept these new additions that I have suggested, then consider this: You should at least film a video of the coin flip if the tiebreakers were to ever come to that. Just typing out the word "Heads" or "Tails" does not give enough proof (or satisfaction) for anyone involved in this thread in my opinion... but... then again, that's what this is anyway... just my opinion

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thing1 : My Prediction for Raiders @ Chargers / Chargers win 35 - 7

Regarding the tiebreaker scenario, I would like to keep the order as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 rather than switching it to 1, 4, 2, 3, 5. Also, I have been giving it some thought and I finally decided to offer an addition, if I may. Here is what I was thinking:

FIRST OF ALL
I would like to point out how quickly we have already used All Five Tiebreakers in the First Playoff Game! This is just unbelievable to me because I was not expecting it to reach #5 AT ALL because the odds of that happening had to be very slim. Moving on...

I have grown accustomed to the idea of using "score differential ratios" (which I did not agree on before) but I still believe that the object to this thread is (and has been) to predict who will win the games (in which predicting the actual scores were virtually irrelevant). However, using the score differentials approach is a much better way to determine a winner then to leave it up to a coin flip. Yes, I understand that the beginning of each NFL game starts with the coin flip, but this simple gesture does not necessarily determine the winner of the game itself. The winner of each game is determined by a certain accumulation of statistics that betters one team from the other. So, determining the winner of a tiebreaker by merely announcing a coin flip (which the only thing you would win in the NFL is the coin toss and not the game itself) is therefore, Preposterous!

Winners of NFL games are determined by virtually one statistic; The Final Score. Knowing this, we should determine (by any means necessary) the winner of these games by score. This is why I suggested we use the over-predicted rule which would eliminate anyone who predicted a score that exceeded the actual score, BUT I can see now how this would not work. After saying all of this, I have decided that we should add two more score differential tiebreakers. The first will be added as a Predicted Winner Score Differential to Actual Winner Score Differential tiebreaker after TB2. If the tiebreaker continues, then it will add a Predicted Loser Score Differential to Actual Loser Score Differential tiebreaker after TB3. The following example uses the same order ( TB1, TB2, TB3, TB4, TB5) as in the previous posts and will add the new additions in Underlines below them

Player 1 (record 10-3)
Player 2 (record 10-3)


TB1 - They both picked that the Home Team would Win

TB2 - The Winners Actual Score is 45
           Player 1 predicted 37
           Player 2 predicted 31

(TB3 - Player 1 Predicted Winner Score Differential is 8
           Player 2 Predicted Winner Score Differential is 14
If all preceding tiebreakers lead up to this one, then it would have resulted in a Player 1 victory because he/she is closer to the actual score of the team that won. But, if for some reason these score differentials would be the same, then it continues down the list).


TB4 - The Losers Actual Score is 21
           Player 1 predicts 28
           Player 2 predicts 20

(TB5 - Player 1 Predicted Loser Score Differential is 7
            Player 2 Predicted Loser Score Differential is 1
If all preceding tiebreakers lead up to this one, then it would have resulted in a Player 2 victory because he/she is closer to the actual score of the team that lost. But, if for some reason these score differentials would be the same, then it continues down the list).


TB6 - Player 1 predicted score to actual score difference was 15
           Player 2 predicted score to actual score difference was 15

TB7 - Coin Flip results in Heads, which is called by Player 2, so Player 2 wins.

This idea of mine is meant to weed out the possibility of a coin flip. It was also meant to order the seniority of the tiebreakers. In my opinion, the order should start at TB1 because it rewards those who predict the winners of the games which has been the main plot of this thread the entire time. Next should be TB2 and TB3 because it rewards those in favor of the winning team and, if the Player automatically wins based on predicting the exact score of the team that won, then that Player should also win based on how close they were to predicting the score of the team that won. The same goes for TB4 and TB5, if both Players were equal in predicting the score of the team that won, then it rewards those in favor of the opposing team (naturally, the team that lost). TB6 is next to last because if both Players were equal in predicting the outcome of the team that won AND the team that lost, then it should be determined by the maximum total. As for TB7, that is basically the last straw since both Players would obviously be considered as "equally matched."

LAST BUT NOT LEAST
If you do not accept these new additions that I have suggested, then consider this: You should at least film a video of the coin flip if the tiebreakers were to ever come to that. Just typing out the word "Heads" or "Tails" does not give enough proof (or satisfaction) for anyone involved in this thread in my opinion... but... then again, that's what this is anyway... just my opinion

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Kruzer : That's not a bad idea. However, any suggestions will be done in the 2nd playoff test, just saying. 
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Falcons 31 Panthers 13
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Lions @ Cardinals ( 28 @ 24 )
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don't forget that you stilll need to post your tie breake games for this week. 
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I'm going to guess....Seahawks @ Chiefs  (18 - 21)
I'm going to guess....Seahawks @ Chiefs  (18 - 21)
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Seahawks at Chiefs

(21-28) Seahawks win
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POSTS: 791/1884
POST EXP: 233591
LVL EXP: 5611698
CP: 9004.9
VIZ: 1162375

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Here is what the second round of the playoff test looks like so far:

Game - Texans @ Browns
patar4097 : 1 - 0 record for the week so far ( 27 @ 21 ) VS
tornadocam : 0 - 1 record ( 30 @ 17 )

Game - Lions @ Cardinals
thing1: 1 - 0 record ( 23 @ 20 ) VS
Me: 1 - 0 record ( 28 @ 24 )

Game - Falcons @ Panthers
A user of this: 1 - 0 record ( 18 @ 21 ) VS
megamanmaniac : 1 - 0 record ( 31 @ 13 )

Game - Raiders @ Chargers
Barathemos: 0 - 1 record ( 21 @ 28 ) VS
Kruzer : 1 - 0 record ( 7 @ 35 )

IMPORTANT NOTE: I noticed some of you posted a score of the wrong game. If that happens, the score you posted will be assumed to the correct game. It will be the exact same score to the team you predicted winning.
Here is what the second round of the playoff test looks like so far:

Game - Texans @ Browns
patar4097 : 1 - 0 record for the week so far ( 27 @ 21 ) VS
tornadocam : 0 - 1 record ( 30 @ 17 )

Game - Lions @ Cardinals
thing1: 1 - 0 record ( 23 @ 20 ) VS
Me: 1 - 0 record ( 28 @ 24 )

Game - Falcons @ Panthers
A user of this: 1 - 0 record ( 18 @ 21 ) VS
megamanmaniac : 1 - 0 record ( 31 @ 13 )

Game - Raiders @ Chargers
Barathemos: 0 - 1 record ( 21 @ 28 ) VS
Kruzer : 1 - 0 record ( 7 @ 35 )

IMPORTANT NOTE: I noticed some of you posted a score of the wrong game. If that happens, the score you posted will be assumed to the correct game. It will be the exact same score to the team you predicted winning.
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Registered: 06-02-11
Location: Atlanta, GA
Last Post: 814 days
Last Active: 289 days

11-17-14 03:23 PM
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thing1
Thingywingy
Level: 219


POSTS: 11520/17208
POST EXP: 921418
LVL EXP: 156852514
CP: 31507.7
VIZ: 527258

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MattyIce : Here is a bump. I suspect you need it to update the week.  
MattyIce : Here is a bump. I suspect you need it to update the week.  
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Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 02-03-11
Location: Washington DC Area
Last Post: 48 days
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11-18-14 10:16 AM
MattyIce is Offline
| ID: 1105567 | 120 Words

MattyIce
Level: 84


POSTS: 797/1884
POST EXP: 233591
LVL EXP: 5611698
CP: 9004.9
VIZ: 1162375

Likes: 0  Dislikes: 0
Here are the results for the "Divisional Round" of the Pick 'Em playoffs:

patar4097 : 9 - 5 record for the week * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
tornadocam : 6 - 8 record

thing1 : 8 - 6 record * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
Me: 6 - 8 record

A user of this : 8 - 6 record * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
megamanmaniac : 7 - 7 record

Barathemos : 6 - 8 record VS
Kruzer : 7 - 7 record * WINNER * ( has the best record )

NEXT WEEK
patar4097 will face thing1 for the NVC championship
A user of this will face Kruzer for the SVC championship
Here are the results for the "Divisional Round" of the Pick 'Em playoffs:

patar4097 : 9 - 5 record for the week * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
tornadocam : 6 - 8 record

thing1 : 8 - 6 record * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
Me: 6 - 8 record

A user of this : 8 - 6 record * WINNER * ( has the best record ) VS
megamanmaniac : 7 - 7 record

Barathemos : 6 - 8 record VS
Kruzer : 7 - 7 record * WINNER * ( has the best record )

NEXT WEEK
patar4097 will face thing1 for the NVC championship
A user of this will face Kruzer for the SVC championship
Trusted Member
#1 Atlanta Falcons and Michigan fan! #RISEUP #GOBLUE


Affected by 'Laziness Syndrome'

Registered: 06-02-11
Location: Atlanta, GA
Last Post: 814 days
Last Active: 289 days

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