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A human rights issue?

honestly?

a year ago, would anyone be claiming that marriage is a human rights issue....

not likely....

the right to vote, or genocide or something like that would be a human rights issue....

who decided that marriage is a right that everyone deserves?
A human rights issue?

honestly?

a year ago, would anyone be claiming that marriage is a human rights issue....

not likely....

the right to vote, or genocide or something like that would be a human rights issue....

who decided that marriage is a right that everyone deserves?

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Your talkin about gay marriage, right?

Originally posted by geeogree
who decided that marriage is a right that everyone deserves?


If not, please clarify what you mean.






Your talkin about gay marriage, right?

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who decided that marriage is a right that everyone deserves?


If not, please clarify what you mean.

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well, I am.... but, I'm trying to make a point...

when did marriage become a rights issue....

so yeah, I am talking about gay marriage....
well, I am.... but, I'm trying to make a point...

when did marriage become a rights issue....

so yeah, I am talking about gay marriage....

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Because there are certain rights a married couple get, that single people don't get. That's when it became a right. Why exactly don't homosexual people deserve to get married?
Because there are certain rights a married couple get, that single people don't get. That's when it became a right. Why exactly don't homosexual people deserve to get married?

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Its not a right.
I dont think gay people should be married. It defeats the purpose.




Its not a right.
I dont think gay people should be married. It defeats the purpose.

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The purpose of getting married is to unify two people who are in love, and who want to live life together happily.
The purpose of getting married is to unify two people who are in love, and who want to live life together happily.

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lol, no
Its to join a man and a woman. Who will later prolly have sex and make babies.




lol, no
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It's sorta a reproduction thing.
Also if little kids see men being married to eachother, it sorta promotes homosexuality to little kids because your pretty much telling and showing them that they can pick to like the same gender or opposite gender...and most would agree that kids shouldn't be influenced by such things.

after all, who actually wants their kid to grow up gay?


and all the other great systems....

It's sorta a reproduction thing.
Also if little kids see men being married to eachother, it sorta promotes homosexuality to little kids because your pretty much telling and showing them that they can pick to like the same gender or opposite gender...and most would agree that kids shouldn't be influenced by such things.

after all, who actually wants their kid to grow up gay?




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It isn't a 'want.' you 'want' your kids to be many things. Does that mean that that'll happen? no.

Not everyone marries to reproduce. But sure, if I wanted to, I'd get married beforehand, but that's not my basis for getting married.
It isn't a 'want.' you 'want' your kids to be many things. Does that mean that that'll happen? no.

Not everyone marries to reproduce. But sure, if I wanted to, I'd get married beforehand, but that's not my basis for getting married.

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marriage is not a right.... it is a privilage....

not everyone gets married.... not everyone gets to claim the rights to marriage....

it just isn't a right that everyone gets.... so, why do homosexuals get some sort of special treatment? because they "want" to? well, we don't always get what we want.... or did we all forget that?
marriage is not a right.... it is a privilage....

not everyone gets married.... not everyone gets to claim the rights to marriage....

it just isn't a right that everyone gets.... so, why do homosexuals get some sort of special treatment? because they "want" to? well, we don't always get what we want.... or did we all forget that?

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I don't understand how or why it's anyone elses business that homosexuals want to be married in the first place? Not everyone believes in your Bible, so that shouldn't be a valid point. I understand it's a moral thing, but Geeogree, a guy can love another guy just as you love your wife. (which isn't using 'love' as a verb, i.e. sex.)
I don't understand how or why it's anyone elses business that homosexuals want to be married in the first place? Not everyone believes in your Bible, so that shouldn't be a valid point. I understand it's a moral thing, but Geeogree, a guy can love another guy just as you love your wife. (which isn't using 'love' as a verb, i.e. sex.)

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okay, I never brought "my bible" into this.... how about you take it right back out...

and yeah, a guy can love a guy.... but, why does he need marriage? is this about love, or rights? if it's about love, then they don't need marriage....

if it's about rights.... then I go back to my argument.... is marriage a right that everyone has, or is it simply something people get to do if they qualify?

not everyone qualifies.... there are plenty of people that don't get married because they don't find the right partner.... should they get tax benefits because they couldn't find a spouse? is that fair?

or, is it fair that native americans get special rights that I don't because they were "born that way"? I think that it is unfair that native americans get more benefits than I do.... I want their benefits too!

sounds pretty dumb right? well, now you know how we feel listening to the gay marriage thing!
okay, I never brought "my bible" into this.... how about you take it right back out...

and yeah, a guy can love a guy.... but, why does he need marriage? is this about love, or rights? if it's about love, then they don't need marriage....

if it's about rights.... then I go back to my argument.... is marriage a right that everyone has, or is it simply something people get to do if they qualify?

not everyone qualifies.... there are plenty of people that don't get married because they don't find the right partner.... should they get tax benefits because they couldn't find a spouse? is that fair?

or, is it fair that native americans get special rights that I don't because they were "born that way"? I think that it is unfair that native americans get more benefits than I do.... I want their benefits too!

sounds pretty dumb right? well, now you know how we feel listening to the gay marriage thing!

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I used the Bible thing because most Christians like to bring it up in an argument about what they don't like. I'm not taking anything 'right back out.'

For some, marriage is simply the next stage in love. Becoming stable and dependent with their spouse.

Why do homosexuals not 'qualify' to get married? Because they are of the same gender?
I used the Bible thing because most Christians like to bring it up in an argument about what they don't like. I'm not taking anything 'right back out.'

For some, marriage is simply the next stage in love. Becoming stable and dependent with their spouse.

Why do homosexuals not 'qualify' to get married? Because they are of the same gender?

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well, I didn't use the bible.... and the bible isn't needed here.... if you really want to bring it up, then you can.... but, I don't see how it serves your purpose... since you don't even think it has any validity....

yes, for some it is, but not all.... my point is that it is not a RIGHT... it is not something that everyone gets NO MATTER WHAT....

and you are right, they don't qualify because they are the same gender.... the prerequisite of marriage is that there is 1 man and 1 woman.... it's been that way for thousands of years....
well, I didn't use the bible.... and the bible isn't needed here.... if you really want to bring it up, then you can.... but, I don't see how it serves your purpose... since you don't even think it has any validity....

yes, for some it is, but not all.... my point is that it is not a RIGHT... it is not something that everyone gets NO MATTER WHAT....

and you are right, they don't qualify because they are the same gender.... the prerequisite of marriage is that there is 1 man and 1 woman.... it's been that way for thousands of years....

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Things are always subject to change. You saying that they aren't allowed to marry is a very... much like saying Indians (from India, mind you) can't marry because their customs are different. Is love so foreign to you that you can not see it between two people, regardless of their gender? Perhaps it's because I know so many people who have fallen in love with someone of the same gender that I'm so angry towards people like you. It also lessens my my opinion for you. And I'm done or I'll rip someone's head off.
Things are always subject to change. You saying that they aren't allowed to marry is a very... much like saying Indians (from India, mind you) can't marry because their customs are different. Is love so foreign to you that you can not see it between two people, regardless of their gender? Perhaps it's because I know so many people who have fallen in love with someone of the same gender that I'm so angry towards people like you. It also lessens my my opinion for you. And I'm done or I'll rip someone's head off.

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Such angry person are you?
homosexuals have just as much of rights as everyones else, they have the right to get married to woman just as a normal male does
Equal rights they have
Such angry person are you?
homosexuals have just as much of rights as everyones else, they have the right to get married to woman just as a normal male does
Equal rights they have

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fair enough Arllue

and I ask again.... is it love, or rights?

you don't seem to know....

people don't need marriage to enjoy their love, or celebrate it....

and again I ask, is marriage a right that everyone has?
fair enough Arllue

and I ask again.... is it love, or rights?

you don't seem to know....

people don't need marriage to enjoy their love, or celebrate it....

and again I ask, is marriage a right that everyone has?

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Yes, it is a right. Everyone should have an equal oppurtunity to get married to the one they love. It's both.
Yes, it is a right. Everyone should have an equal oppurtunity to get married to the one they love. It's both.

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Homosexuals should be allowed to get married. We talk about equality, but do homosexuals get all those equal chances? No. Why can't they get married? And David, with your "have their kid grow up gay". That won't necassarily happen. The kid could have gay parents, but stay straight. Becuase that's how he was born. Straight. Or, let's say he does grow up gay. Who cares? It's not like being gay is a bad thing. The reason why gays can't marry is becuase the bible was brought sorta brought into it. "God wants men and women to marry. Not men and men." Ever heard of Seperation of Church and State? Gays should be able to get married. If they want to, let themh. It almost seems the U.S is "creeped out" by gays. Whic is why they don't let them marry. I mean, what other reason could there be to NOT let them? Image seems to be more important.
Homosexuals should be allowed to get married. We talk about equality, but do homosexuals get all those equal chances? No. Why can't they get married? And David, with your "have their kid grow up gay". That won't necassarily happen. The kid could have gay parents, but stay straight. Becuase that's how he was born. Straight. Or, let's say he does grow up gay. Who cares? It's not like being gay is a bad thing. The reason why gays can't marry is becuase the bible was brought sorta brought into it. "God wants men and women to marry. Not men and men." Ever heard of Seperation of Church and State? Gays should be able to get married. If they want to, let themh. It almost seems the U.S is "creeped out" by gays. Whic is why they don't let them marry. I mean, what other reason could there be to NOT let them? Image seems to be more important.

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Ummmmm....... no. Marriage is defined as "The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife." Most times, this is under god.




Ummmmm....... no. Marriage is defined as "The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife." Most times, this is under god.

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