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I have felt this way for a while now about humans. We are  responsible for destroying everything aren't we? From the endangerment of many species of animals, to the destruction of wildlife, and possibly the end of our own planet if we don't change the way we act. I am kind of going to go on a rant here so bear with me.

I am just disgusted by the behavior of humans, it drives me nuts, I watch educational shows on tv all the time, and I find them fascinating, but on most of them, there are wildlife shows and they mire about the beautiful specimen of animals and plants and just wildlife in general. Oh yeah, and you know what comes after that? Without fail it seems that we drive everything to extinction, so many animals are on the endangerment list because of humans whales, rhinos, gorillas, tuna, orangutan, elephants, pandas turtles, you name it! It seems that just about every animal out there is near or has already been driven to extinction because of our greed. 

It seems that humans are just contempt with destroying everything beautiful just for or own survival, we are primitive and disgusting and all we do is just bulldoze everything in our path. Its because of our greed and our overpopulation why all of this happens and I hate it. We are barbaric, primitive and territorial. Sometimes I look at humans in disgust for some of the things we have done.  At this rate, we will be responsible for our own destruction, we destroy forests. (Did you know that we chop down 25 million trees a year? Horrible right?) About 1,200 animal species and 750 plant species are endangered because of humans. It may not seem like much, but it only grows with every coming year. I am just disgusted with the way humans are sometimes, it seems that one nature or wildlife show doesn't go by where there isn't some species of plant or animal being destroyed and greatly reduced by humans. We are greedy, selfish and disgusting. I sometimes don't even know how we can live with ourselves. 

Some people are completely oblivious to the destruction they cause around them. All I can say is, humans greatly disgust me, we are contempt with just destroying everything up until we can no longer do so. And again there are more shows on how we ruin the earth and we search other planets for possible life, to be honest I don't think we deserve another chance because we don't need the opportunity to destroy another planet.


So, this is just how I feel about the topic, and if you actually read all of this, then you deserve a medal or something. What are your thoughts on the destruction caused by humans? Please share it here! Just please keep it cool and don't argue, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts on the matter. 






I have felt this way for a while now about humans. We are  responsible for destroying everything aren't we? From the endangerment of many species of animals, to the destruction of wildlife, and possibly the end of our own planet if we don't change the way we act. I am kind of going to go on a rant here so bear with me.

I am just disgusted by the behavior of humans, it drives me nuts, I watch educational shows on tv all the time, and I find them fascinating, but on most of them, there are wildlife shows and they mire about the beautiful specimen of animals and plants and just wildlife in general. Oh yeah, and you know what comes after that? Without fail it seems that we drive everything to extinction, so many animals are on the endangerment list because of humans whales, rhinos, gorillas, tuna, orangutan, elephants, pandas turtles, you name it! It seems that just about every animal out there is near or has already been driven to extinction because of our greed. 

It seems that humans are just contempt with destroying everything beautiful just for or own survival, we are primitive and disgusting and all we do is just bulldoze everything in our path. Its because of our greed and our overpopulation why all of this happens and I hate it. We are barbaric, primitive and territorial. Sometimes I look at humans in disgust for some of the things we have done.  At this rate, we will be responsible for our own destruction, we destroy forests. (Did you know that we chop down 25 million trees a year? Horrible right?) About 1,200 animal species and 750 plant species are endangered because of humans. It may not seem like much, but it only grows with every coming year. I am just disgusted with the way humans are sometimes, it seems that one nature or wildlife show doesn't go by where there isn't some species of plant or animal being destroyed and greatly reduced by humans. We are greedy, selfish and disgusting. I sometimes don't even know how we can live with ourselves. 

Some people are completely oblivious to the destruction they cause around them. All I can say is, humans greatly disgust me, we are contempt with just destroying everything up until we can no longer do so. And again there are more shows on how we ruin the earth and we search other planets for possible life, to be honest I don't think we deserve another chance because we don't need the opportunity to destroy another planet.


So, this is just how I feel about the topic, and if you actually read all of this, then you deserve a medal or something. What are your thoughts on the destruction caused by humans? Please share it here! Just please keep it cool and don't argue, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts on the matter. 






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Yes I agree, We have done some nasty things, and some terrible,


Heck, We are kind of a Wreck, we have crazy people killing one another,  Even the Kind hearted do something that's not right from time to time,

But This world is about survival to the finish, No doubt about that buddy Because at the end there is few whom you can trust to watch your back.

Now as for the 2nd choice thing, That's not really an option until earth ends. Because us humans are recycles,  Even if you die, You are likely to be remembered, By your children, and grandchildren etc, There like regenerations of yourself, expect with some differences.


As like a quote form a video game said" Once you die, the Spirit, the Ego, It lives on forever."

But in all seriousness us humans will never be perfect.
Yes I agree, We have done some nasty things, and some terrible,


Heck, We are kind of a Wreck, we have crazy people killing one another,  Even the Kind hearted do something that's not right from time to time,

But This world is about survival to the finish, No doubt about that buddy Because at the end there is few whom you can trust to watch your back.

Now as for the 2nd choice thing, That's not really an option until earth ends. Because us humans are recycles,  Even if you die, You are likely to be remembered, By your children, and grandchildren etc, There like regenerations of yourself, expect with some differences.


As like a quote form a video game said" Once you die, the Spirit, the Ego, It lives on forever."

But in all seriousness us humans will never be perfect.
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first off, it will be billions of years before this planet dies, unless we were to somehow completely remove the core of the earth. THAT is what keeps the world moving, keeps gravity in place, keeps the land shifting, and is responsible for the occasional change in surface area.

second off, youre saying this as though were some magical species that just popped up, and were somehow different than the others on this planet. we are not. every creature kills other creatures, and over time some things die off entirely. its nature. deal with it.

our "bulldozing" is natural. our building and tearing down, is natural. its something that every living creature does to one degree or another, we are simply the best suited for survival, of the creatures on this planet. the endangerment or extinction of a creature is meaningless. this is how life goes on. energy must be consumed and converted so that life can continue. creatures HAVE to die. the earth HAS to be torn up, and the trees cut down. if we dont do it, the earth will. or the asteroids and comets, etc.

even our "weapons of mass destruction" wouldnt have any REAL longterm effect aside from -maybe- killing most of the life on the surface of the planet. we could not contaminate this earth with radiation to the point that it could not recover, and a few hundred years is nothing to the planet. 

we are NO different than gorillas, whales, sharks, eagles, or ants, except we do what we do much better and at a much larger scale then they do what they do. disgusted by humans? well youd better just start hating EVERY CREATURE EVER because we all do the exact same things.our "destruction" we cause is the same as it always has been, by every other creature. its nothing to care about, because this my friend is life.

oh for the record, google is your friend, and will prevent you from using words you dont actually understand. contempt is not the same thing as content.
first off, it will be billions of years before this planet dies, unless we were to somehow completely remove the core of the earth. THAT is what keeps the world moving, keeps gravity in place, keeps the land shifting, and is responsible for the occasional change in surface area.

second off, youre saying this as though were some magical species that just popped up, and were somehow different than the others on this planet. we are not. every creature kills other creatures, and over time some things die off entirely. its nature. deal with it.

our "bulldozing" is natural. our building and tearing down, is natural. its something that every living creature does to one degree or another, we are simply the best suited for survival, of the creatures on this planet. the endangerment or extinction of a creature is meaningless. this is how life goes on. energy must be consumed and converted so that life can continue. creatures HAVE to die. the earth HAS to be torn up, and the trees cut down. if we dont do it, the earth will. or the asteroids and comets, etc.

even our "weapons of mass destruction" wouldnt have any REAL longterm effect aside from -maybe- killing most of the life on the surface of the planet. we could not contaminate this earth with radiation to the point that it could not recover, and a few hundred years is nothing to the planet. 

we are NO different than gorillas, whales, sharks, eagles, or ants, except we do what we do much better and at a much larger scale then they do what they do. disgusted by humans? well youd better just start hating EVERY CREATURE EVER because we all do the exact same things.our "destruction" we cause is the same as it always has been, by every other creature. its nothing to care about, because this my friend is life.

oh for the record, google is your friend, and will prevent you from using words you dont actually understand. contempt is not the same thing as content.
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TetraDigm : I wish I could 'like' that comment more than once. But I do have to point out that we do have some differences than other species. When other creatures kill, it is for food. They don't waste the kill. Humans kill for sport. I am not against hunters, but I am against hunting for the sake of loving to gun down wild animals. For example, I saw a picture of a woman with the biggest smile on her face as she was kneeling down next to the lion she just killed. She traveled all the way to Africa because she specifically wanted to kill a lion. I was sickened at that. Nobody really eats lion. The meat was wasted. She just had it stuffed as a trophy. Hunting just for that is nothing more than blood-lust, which is not something you typically see in the natural world. But other than that one detail, I agree with you wholehearted. 



I gotta say that I completely agree with TetraDigm. It is naive to think that animals haven't been going extinct since the beginning of life on the planet. Species have been going through cycles of emerging and extinction constantly. For a lot of animals, their time is coming to an end. Happened with the first organisms to emerge, happened with the Dinosaurs, happened with things before and after Dinosaurs, it will happen to every existing animal currently alive right now. 

But with that said, I am not saying it doesn't suck and that it isn't remotely sad. It is. I am also not saying that we should abandon all sense of preservation. I am all for trying to bring back the forests. I am all for protecting endangered animals. They are beautiful creatures that I want to keep around. Kind of like a community we have. These animals exist during our time, so we have a connection to them. That is all good.

However, to say we are destroying the planet is far from the truth. Unless we literally blew up the planet into pieces or (as Tetra said) kill the Earths core, we can't destroy the planet. We can only change it. Polluting the ozone layer, cutting down the trees, killing animals, etc will not kill the planet and will not kill the life on it. The MOST we can do is change the world so drastically in such a way that it is inhabitable for us, and we die. But here is the thing. The world will eventually recover. Look at 64 million years ago. Something caused drastic and sudden climate change by blocking out the sun. This freezing climate killed most of the plant life. Most of the terrarian creatures died. It took millions of years for the blockage to get cleared, for the plants to come back, and for animals to begin emerging back to the caliber as before. Consider humans just a slower version of a giant climate changing meteor. We are basically doing the exact same thing, just over a longer period of time instead of quick and sudden. But if we end up killing ourselves, all of our buildings, roads, etc. will slowly erode away. Our pollution will slowly, but surely, be naturally cleared away. The plants and animals/organisms that do end up surviving will repopulate and change over time. Over another many millions of years, the planet will be back to it's natural climate, 4 seasoned, life growing greenhouse it is. All of our damage will be cleared away when we are gone (unless we somehow manage to survive until the Earth's core does naturally die.....

But yeah. We aren't destroying the planet. Just drastically changing it. But we are hardly the first thing to do that throughout the Earth's history.
TetraDigm : I wish I could 'like' that comment more than once. But I do have to point out that we do have some differences than other species. When other creatures kill, it is for food. They don't waste the kill. Humans kill for sport. I am not against hunters, but I am against hunting for the sake of loving to gun down wild animals. For example, I saw a picture of a woman with the biggest smile on her face as she was kneeling down next to the lion she just killed. She traveled all the way to Africa because she specifically wanted to kill a lion. I was sickened at that. Nobody really eats lion. The meat was wasted. She just had it stuffed as a trophy. Hunting just for that is nothing more than blood-lust, which is not something you typically see in the natural world. But other than that one detail, I agree with you wholehearted. 



I gotta say that I completely agree with TetraDigm. It is naive to think that animals haven't been going extinct since the beginning of life on the planet. Species have been going through cycles of emerging and extinction constantly. For a lot of animals, their time is coming to an end. Happened with the first organisms to emerge, happened with the Dinosaurs, happened with things before and after Dinosaurs, it will happen to every existing animal currently alive right now. 

But with that said, I am not saying it doesn't suck and that it isn't remotely sad. It is. I am also not saying that we should abandon all sense of preservation. I am all for trying to bring back the forests. I am all for protecting endangered animals. They are beautiful creatures that I want to keep around. Kind of like a community we have. These animals exist during our time, so we have a connection to them. That is all good.

However, to say we are destroying the planet is far from the truth. Unless we literally blew up the planet into pieces or (as Tetra said) kill the Earths core, we can't destroy the planet. We can only change it. Polluting the ozone layer, cutting down the trees, killing animals, etc will not kill the planet and will not kill the life on it. The MOST we can do is change the world so drastically in such a way that it is inhabitable for us, and we die. But here is the thing. The world will eventually recover. Look at 64 million years ago. Something caused drastic and sudden climate change by blocking out the sun. This freezing climate killed most of the plant life. Most of the terrarian creatures died. It took millions of years for the blockage to get cleared, for the plants to come back, and for animals to begin emerging back to the caliber as before. Consider humans just a slower version of a giant climate changing meteor. We are basically doing the exact same thing, just over a longer period of time instead of quick and sudden. But if we end up killing ourselves, all of our buildings, roads, etc. will slowly erode away. Our pollution will slowly, but surely, be naturally cleared away. The plants and animals/organisms that do end up surviving will repopulate and change over time. Over another many millions of years, the planet will be back to it's natural climate, 4 seasoned, life growing greenhouse it is. All of our damage will be cleared away when we are gone (unless we somehow manage to survive until the Earth's core does naturally die.....

But yeah. We aren't destroying the planet. Just drastically changing it. But we are hardly the first thing to do that throughout the Earth's history.
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i wouldnt go so far as to say that animals dont kill without the intent of eating their kill. many animals kill because they are afraid, be it with reason or not. many herbivores trample over and attack anything that comes too close, because they arent smart enough to understand that not everything wants to kill them. as for the lion meat, its actually eaten most times a lion is killed by a human. people dont generally hunt lions, for good reason, but the majority of kills against them are done for food or protection while hunting other animals. sure -some- of us like to kill things just to kill them. but most dolphins enjoy killing turtles for the hell of it, or buffalo stampeding over a lone wolf/dog wandering around out of fear. we are no different, we simply interpret things in a manner that we assume to be different than other animals. oh and the herbivores which kill other animals, never eat them. neither do the evil dolphins who relish in bringing decimation to a defenseless (against a dolphin) turtle.


for the record, id love to hunt a lion. id kill a family with young cubs, so i could raise them and semi domesticate, then breed, and further domesticate said lions. it has been done many times, and only takes 2-3 generations removed from the wild. i would eat the meat, and use it to feed my new cubs, and id mount the bones and wear the pelt as a cloak for all to see. i would wear it everywhere, and kill the first hippy to throw paint at me.

its also very important to note, that our nuclear weaponry and power plants are completely irrelevant. most celestial bodies that actually come into contact with the earth(and there are about 3 or 4 every day that do so, of very large size, and touch down in the oceans generally), have a similar impact force as a large yield nuclear device, and produce similar radiation sans the giant cloud of nuclear death. the planet is constantly bombarded with space debris ranging from the size of a pea, to the size of a large city. they do not harm the planet, because the planet is about 8,000 miles thick, and nothing that you could ever do aside from using some sci-fi laser beam to "eradicate" a huge swath through the middle, would ever harm this planet.
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i wouldnt go so far as to say that animals dont kill without the intent of eating their kill. many animals kill because they are afraid, be it with reason or not. many herbivores trample over and attack anything that comes too close, because they arent smart enough to understand that not everything wants to kill them. as for the lion meat, its actually eaten most times a lion is killed by a human. people dont generally hunt lions, for good reason, but the majority of kills against them are done for food or protection while hunting other animals. sure -some- of us like to kill things just to kill them. but most dolphins enjoy killing turtles for the hell of it, or buffalo stampeding over a lone wolf/dog wandering around out of fear. we are no different, we simply interpret things in a manner that we assume to be different than other animals. oh and the herbivores which kill other animals, never eat them. neither do the evil dolphins who relish in bringing decimation to a defenseless (against a dolphin) turtle.


for the record, id love to hunt a lion. id kill a family with young cubs, so i could raise them and semi domesticate, then breed, and further domesticate said lions. it has been done many times, and only takes 2-3 generations removed from the wild. i would eat the meat, and use it to feed my new cubs, and id mount the bones and wear the pelt as a cloak for all to see. i would wear it everywhere, and kill the first hippy to throw paint at me.

its also very important to note, that our nuclear weaponry and power plants are completely irrelevant. most celestial bodies that actually come into contact with the earth(and there are about 3 or 4 every day that do so, of very large size, and touch down in the oceans generally), have a similar impact force as a large yield nuclear device, and produce similar radiation sans the giant cloud of nuclear death. the planet is constantly bombarded with space debris ranging from the size of a pea, to the size of a large city. they do not harm the planet, because the planet is about 8,000 miles thick, and nothing that you could ever do aside from using some sci-fi laser beam to "eradicate" a huge swath through the middle, would ever harm this planet.
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TetraDigm : While I agree with the space terrestrial impacts part, one thing I will point out is that every example you mentioned, killing was out of fear, territorial matters, or completely unintentional. Those are completely different than to kill just for the sport of killing. As for the dolphin comment, it is not speculated that their acts of violent attacks are 'just for the hell of it'. There are many supported speculations for these, what at first seemed to be random, attacks. But it isn't assumed to be just for kicks and giggles. When herbivores kill, it is pretty much do to self defense, unintentional, or collateral damage. But not just for sport. As for the lion meat, the particular story I was referring to did nothing with the meat. This woman specifically killed for the sake of wanting to kill a lion. The animal as skinned in the US and the meat simply incinerated. Though on a planet killing scale, it is irrelevant because it won't kill the planet . But I feel that humans are animals of this planet as well, and we should show it and the creatures within some level of respect. As creatures of the planet, I personally don't feel we should try to lay claim of being separate from it to justify killing for sport. But that is jut my opinion. I am not saying people who hunt for sport are 'bad' people, but I feel that what they are doing is still a bad thing. I feel killing should be for food. If you want to take the head to mount on the wall, at least use the meat so it isn't just a pointless kill. 
TetraDigm : While I agree with the space terrestrial impacts part, one thing I will point out is that every example you mentioned, killing was out of fear, territorial matters, or completely unintentional. Those are completely different than to kill just for the sport of killing. As for the dolphin comment, it is not speculated that their acts of violent attacks are 'just for the hell of it'. There are many supported speculations for these, what at first seemed to be random, attacks. But it isn't assumed to be just for kicks and giggles. When herbivores kill, it is pretty much do to self defense, unintentional, or collateral damage. But not just for sport. As for the lion meat, the particular story I was referring to did nothing with the meat. This woman specifically killed for the sake of wanting to kill a lion. The animal as skinned in the US and the meat simply incinerated. Though on a planet killing scale, it is irrelevant because it won't kill the planet . But I feel that humans are animals of this planet as well, and we should show it and the creatures within some level of respect. As creatures of the planet, I personally don't feel we should try to lay claim of being separate from it to justify killing for sport. But that is jut my opinion. I am not saying people who hunt for sport are 'bad' people, but I feel that what they are doing is still a bad thing. I feel killing should be for food. If you want to take the head to mount on the wall, at least use the meat so it isn't just a pointless kill. 
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TetraDigm : Of course I know that it will be billions of years before the earth ends, I don't really appreciate the tone in which you used in your reply to me. I realize my errors, and I know that we are just the most evolved and the best suited for the task of adapting and modifying the earth on a larger scale than most animals. We do what they basically do, but just on a much larger scale.I just mainly intended for emphasis on the extinction and endangerment of several species because of our actions. Not to say that other events in the earth's history hasn't done the same. I am aware we aren't the first to severely modify the earth through its extensive history, we are just drastically changing it to best suit our needs. Like I said, I was mainly aiming for emphasis on how many animals humans have endangered and drove to extinction, and also how drastically we are changing this planet. Whether that was the message received or not. 

As for where you said that humans magically popped up, I have no idea. I know we are not the first to kill one another, animals do the same, but we just take it to a much higher level on a much larger scale.

Just come down a bit, you seem to be taking the matter far to seriously and in a rather aggressive, indifferent tone. Plus, vizzed auto corrected words that I originally wrote for some unknown reason.
TetraDigm : Of course I know that it will be billions of years before the earth ends, I don't really appreciate the tone in which you used in your reply to me. I realize my errors, and I know that we are just the most evolved and the best suited for the task of adapting and modifying the earth on a larger scale than most animals. We do what they basically do, but just on a much larger scale.I just mainly intended for emphasis on the extinction and endangerment of several species because of our actions. Not to say that other events in the earth's history hasn't done the same. I am aware we aren't the first to severely modify the earth through its extensive history, we are just drastically changing it to best suit our needs. Like I said, I was mainly aiming for emphasis on how many animals humans have endangered and drove to extinction, and also how drastically we are changing this planet. Whether that was the message received or not. 

As for where you said that humans magically popped up, I have no idea. I know we are not the first to kill one another, animals do the same, but we just take it to a much higher level on a much larger scale.

Just come down a bit, you seem to be taking the matter far to seriously and in a rather aggressive, indifferent tone. Plus, vizzed auto corrected words that I originally wrote for some unknown reason.
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Razor-987 :

perhaps i did come off as "taking it too seriously" or "being agressive" but extreme ignorance tends to inspire that in me. your emphasis on a small amount of lifeforms, is meaningless. once again, this is the natural progression of life, and we are not separate from other creatures just because we dont think in the same manner as them. we dont change the earth to suit our needs any more than an ant colony does, nor are our buildings any different than those of other creatures, save for the material used, which i might add will eventually go back into the earth.  it seems to me that you were more looking to start a thread in the controversy section using generic insults to the human race to try and prove a non existent point, or were simply stating how you truly feel due to ignorance of how life actually works for every single creature to have ever existed. 

also, you state how we chop down trees left and right, but i notice you didnt bother to mention how we replenish those trees. how we plant entire forests of trees that grow into a large and useable state in a few years, so that we dont have to use older trees for our building. you completely bypassed the nature preserves we setup so that animals CAN thrive, and those we setup so that animals cannot drive one another to extinction. you skipped over the fact that we take most "endangered" life forms now, and do the best we can to keep them alive. keeping them free of danger for the most part, allowing them to breed and grow safely, etc.

do you not realize we do these things, and much much more, or do you just not care? we preserve this planet far more than any other creature currently living. everything else is concerned with 1 thing: their own survival. we are concerned with the survival of everything, because we generally understand the web of life, and how removal of a species of flora or fauna will impact the world. for every tree we chop down, 3 more get planted in its place. for every lion or tiger we kill, we breed an entire pack to replace it. do you realize that if we didnt replant the trees, we would all soon die? do you know what would happen if the amount of trees were to become as prevalent as they were in the Jurassic days? we would all die. thats right. oxygen, while necessary for us, is also a poison, like anything else. if we dont chop down trees, the oxygen concentration will increase at an exponential rate, which would cause huge losses of life and productivity before it.

btw, if by "auto correct" you mean "spell check", then perhaps try going through each word individually, instead of just hitting "replace everything". basic use of a spell checker, nothing new.

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see there is the thing. we dont -know- anything about why animals act the way they do. its all speculation because we dont have any definitive way to communicate with them. regardless of this though, be their reason to defend, lack of understanding, fear, or even just for fun, the result is the same and does not exonerate the animals from the fact that they kill another life, and leave it to rot or be taken by something else. respect is something that must be earned, not given, or it is not respect. your dog might earn your respect, but in most cases this will not happen. when a creature shows me true intelligence, it has earned my respect. i dont consider the ability to memorize repetitious acts (i.e. dolphins) to be intelligence, and as such no animal has yet earned my respect. i do agree however, that if youre going to kill something, you should always eat it. but you shouldnt let the rest of the body go to waste. even the bones can be ground up for fertilizer if you dont feel comfortable with the thought of eating it, which would be extremely good for you to do.
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perhaps i did come off as "taking it too seriously" or "being agressive" but extreme ignorance tends to inspire that in me. your emphasis on a small amount of lifeforms, is meaningless. once again, this is the natural progression of life, and we are not separate from other creatures just because we dont think in the same manner as them. we dont change the earth to suit our needs any more than an ant colony does, nor are our buildings any different than those of other creatures, save for the material used, which i might add will eventually go back into the earth.  it seems to me that you were more looking to start a thread in the controversy section using generic insults to the human race to try and prove a non existent point, or were simply stating how you truly feel due to ignorance of how life actually works for every single creature to have ever existed. 

also, you state how we chop down trees left and right, but i notice you didnt bother to mention how we replenish those trees. how we plant entire forests of trees that grow into a large and useable state in a few years, so that we dont have to use older trees for our building. you completely bypassed the nature preserves we setup so that animals CAN thrive, and those we setup so that animals cannot drive one another to extinction. you skipped over the fact that we take most "endangered" life forms now, and do the best we can to keep them alive. keeping them free of danger for the most part, allowing them to breed and grow safely, etc.

do you not realize we do these things, and much much more, or do you just not care? we preserve this planet far more than any other creature currently living. everything else is concerned with 1 thing: their own survival. we are concerned with the survival of everything, because we generally understand the web of life, and how removal of a species of flora or fauna will impact the world. for every tree we chop down, 3 more get planted in its place. for every lion or tiger we kill, we breed an entire pack to replace it. do you realize that if we didnt replant the trees, we would all soon die? do you know what would happen if the amount of trees were to become as prevalent as they were in the Jurassic days? we would all die. thats right. oxygen, while necessary for us, is also a poison, like anything else. if we dont chop down trees, the oxygen concentration will increase at an exponential rate, which would cause huge losses of life and productivity before it.

btw, if by "auto correct" you mean "spell check", then perhaps try going through each word individually, instead of just hitting "replace everything". basic use of a spell checker, nothing new.

@rcarter

see there is the thing. we dont -know- anything about why animals act the way they do. its all speculation because we dont have any definitive way to communicate with them. regardless of this though, be their reason to defend, lack of understanding, fear, or even just for fun, the result is the same and does not exonerate the animals from the fact that they kill another life, and leave it to rot or be taken by something else. respect is something that must be earned, not given, or it is not respect. your dog might earn your respect, but in most cases this will not happen. when a creature shows me true intelligence, it has earned my respect. i dont consider the ability to memorize repetitious acts (i.e. dolphins) to be intelligence, and as such no animal has yet earned my respect. i do agree however, that if youre going to kill something, you should always eat it. but you shouldnt let the rest of the body go to waste. even the bones can be ground up for fertilizer if you dont feel comfortable with the thought of eating it, which would be extremely good for you to do.
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I read a Russian novel recently which I want to quote to you guys now since I think it pretty much sums everything in a few sentence (which I know some of you guys hate me so much for).
"He now viewed man as a clever machine for the decomposition of food and the production of s#€%, functioning almost without a hitch throughout a life without meaning, if by the word `meaning` one has in mind some kind of ultimate goal. The meaning was in the process: eliminate the dregs - everything that was left of smoking pork chops, juicy braised mushrooms, fluffy cakes - now rotten and contaminated. Personality trades began to fade, becoming impersonal creating instead something putrid and worthless."
-Dimitry Glukhovsky "Metro 2033"
That is pretty much how I see human life in general, no matter how highly we want to see it in both spiritual and materialistic standards.
I read a Russian novel recently which I want to quote to you guys now since I think it pretty much sums everything in a few sentence (which I know some of you guys hate me so much for).
"He now viewed man as a clever machine for the decomposition of food and the production of s#€%, functioning almost without a hitch throughout a life without meaning, if by the word `meaning` one has in mind some kind of ultimate goal. The meaning was in the process: eliminate the dregs - everything that was left of smoking pork chops, juicy braised mushrooms, fluffy cakes - now rotten and contaminated. Personality trades began to fade, becoming impersonal creating instead something putrid and worthless."
-Dimitry Glukhovsky "Metro 2033"
That is pretty much how I see human life in general, no matter how highly we want to see it in both spiritual and materialistic standards.
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I would like to have this thread closed because it is sparking too much debate and some people are misunderstanding and misinterpreting what I am trying to say and I would like to close this thread before anything bad happens. I think it would be for the best if this was closed. or better yet trashed so no one goes crazy with disliking this. Thanks. 
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I would like to have this thread closed because it is sparking too much debate and some people are misunderstanding and misinterpreting what I am trying to say and I would like to close this thread before anything bad happens. I think it would be for the best if this was closed. or better yet trashed so no one goes crazy with disliking this. Thanks. 
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Razor-987 : Wouldn't trashing it get it more attention though? Anyway, you asked me to so I'll just go ahead and close this thing now and all.

Thread Closed. If you want it back PM me and we'll talk about it. No promises.
Razor-987 : Wouldn't trashing it get it more attention though? Anyway, you asked me to so I'll just go ahead and close this thing now and all.

Thread Closed. If you want it back PM me and we'll talk about it. No promises.
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