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10-12-13 01:47 AM
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I want this to be an INTELLECTUAL and CIVIL discussion on whether or not god exists, This can be an emotional topic for some, so we want to avoid any personal attacks of any kind!

The subject is pretty straight forward.

Do you believe or disbelieve the proposition that a god exists? If you do or don't, what is your reasoning behind your conclusion?
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I want this to be an INTELLECTUAL and CIVIL discussion on whether or not god exists, This can be an emotional topic for some, so we want to avoid any personal attacks of any kind!

The subject is pretty straight forward.

Do you believe or disbelieve the proposition that a god exists? If you do or don't, what is your reasoning behind your conclusion?

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A Creator is existent. Which is thee God. Welp, call it the Christian god if you want.
There's a book called Bible.

Well, that book says we a fall short of the glory of God.

And then it proclaims that we can freely be accepted by that God.


"Freely".


A Creator is existent. Which is thee God. Welp, call it the Christian god if you want.
There's a book called Bible.

Well, that book says we a fall short of the glory of God.

And then it proclaims that we can freely be accepted by that God.


"Freely".



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God exist! He created the world! He took six days to create the Earth, the seventh day was a break (seriously).

As tRIUNE said, there is a Bible where you can read all read all about God and such.

Well, there are peoples who don't belive in God like the arabians.
God exist! He created the world! He took six days to create the Earth, the seventh day was a break (seriously).

As tRIUNE said, there is a Bible where you can read all read all about God and such.

Well, there are peoples who don't belive in God like the arabians.

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Sorinkun : I would like to dispel an odd stereotype about Arabians,

First of all, I disbelieve in a god, and I'm not an Arab, In fact most Arabs believe in a god(being mostly Muslim) which they call "Allah"(in translation this means the god of the abrahamic religions, since they see Islam to be an extension of the abrahamic faiths)

Arabians tend to be very theistic, they just don't share the Christian beliefs.
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Sorinkun : I would like to dispel an odd stereotype about Arabians,

First of all, I disbelieve in a god, and I'm not an Arab, In fact most Arabs believe in a god(being mostly Muslim) which they call "Allah"(in translation this means the god of the abrahamic religions, since they see Islam to be an extension of the abrahamic faiths)

Arabians tend to be very theistic, they just don't share the Christian beliefs.

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sloanstar1000 : are they accepted or not to choose their own beliefs?

sloanstar1000 : are they accepted or not to choose their own beliefs?

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tRIUNE : I'm not quite sure what you're asking... could you elaborate?
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tRIUNE : I'm not quite sure what you're asking... could you elaborate?

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I''ll reiterate: yes you do have the same believes as Christians = you think there are more than one god.

I know that my God is One Person.

I''ll reiterate: yes you do have the same believes as Christians = you think there are more than one god.

I know that my God is One Person.

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tRIUNE : As I stated in the post you responded to, I actually don't believe that ANY gods exist. I was clarifying that the majority of Arabs believe in a god, though it may not be the same god that is portrayed in the christian bible.

There are many concepts that can be considered god, like Zeus, or Ra. I don't accept the existence of any deity.
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tRIUNE : As I stated in the post you responded to, I actually don't believe that ANY gods exist. I was clarifying that the majority of Arabs believe in a god, though it may not be the same god that is portrayed in the christian bible.

There are many concepts that can be considered god, like Zeus, or Ra. I don't accept the existence of any deity.

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sloanstar1000 : Nah, I don't see fairy tails as truth -- I see truth as truth, and I can tell you stories about God which are true to me and truth, f you want.

sloanstar1000 : Nah, I don't see fairy tails as truth -- I see truth as truth, and I can tell you stories about God which are true to me and truth, f you want.

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Okay, call me a liar -- what has god done for you recently?

Okay, call me a liar -- what has god done for you recently?

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tRIUNE : This will be my last direct post to you on this thread, because I don't want this thread to be a back and forth between just two people.

I haven't called you a liar, and honestly, I'm really not sure what you're getting at. I have already explained that I'm an atheist, which would mean that I don't believe that god has done anything for me recently... because I don't believe that a god exists.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.
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tRIUNE : This will be my last direct post to you on this thread, because I don't want this thread to be a back and forth between just two people.

I haven't called you a liar, and honestly, I'm really not sure what you're getting at. I have already explained that I'm an atheist, which would mean that I don't believe that god has done anything for me recently... because I don't believe that a god exists.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.

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Makes Sense.

Makes Sense.

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No, my post was cut off -- somehow.

Anyway do what you gotta do but I do not approve of guys doin guys.

No, my post was cut off -- somehow.

Anyway do what you gotta do but I do not approve of guys doin guys.

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I don't approve of any sex in posts.

So, your sex is female?

So, your sex is male?

So flippin wut -- don't try to make a big deal.

Also don't try to mix them.

I don't approve of any sex in posts.

So, your sex is female?

So, your sex is male?

So flippin wut -- don't try to make a big deal.

Also don't try to mix them.

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Waiting for some intelligent post.

Or something

Waiting for some intelligent post.

Or something

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sloanstar1000 :  I think what he was getting at is how does the Arabian community deal with you not believing in God. However, the belief in God is not defined by culture. In fact, for us Christians, we believe that through Christ, being Christ followers are to be counter cultural. Because we are all created by God, we can all become his followers, and nothing limits us from doing so, not even different cultures. In the end, every tribe, every nation, every tongue will give glory, honor and praises to Him, because of His love for us. Only if we don't come to God, we would have to pay for our own sins, which we know that no one can do.

tRIUNE : Ummm, tRIUNE, are you ok? You made 4 posts in a roll and some of them didn't make sense to the topic at hand.
sloanstar1000 :  I think what he was getting at is how does the Arabian community deal with you not believing in God. However, the belief in God is not defined by culture. In fact, for us Christians, we believe that through Christ, being Christ followers are to be counter cultural. Because we are all created by God, we can all become his followers, and nothing limits us from doing so, not even different cultures. In the end, every tribe, every nation, every tongue will give glory, honor and praises to Him, because of His love for us. Only if we don't come to God, we would have to pay for our own sins, which we know that no one can do.

tRIUNE : Ummm, tRIUNE, are you ok? You made 4 posts in a roll and some of them didn't make sense to the topic at hand.

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Well I don't believe in any deity myself. Even if there was a deity of some description at some point (the Christian God for example), it would be long gone by now.  And personally I can't find any proof of God in a Christian sense from the bible. No offence, but it sounds like a fantasy novel. A man in the sky, creates a world, in six days. That to me seems unlikely from the start. Who created the man that created everything? More to the point, inbreeding is socially wrong in this society, even amongst Christians, but there were two humans in the beginning? And those two humans were tricked by a talking snake into eating an apple? Very strange.
Well I don't believe in any deity myself. Even if there was a deity of some description at some point (the Christian God for example), it would be long gone by now.  And personally I can't find any proof of God in a Christian sense from the bible. No offence, but it sounds like a fantasy novel. A man in the sky, creates a world, in six days. That to me seems unlikely from the start. Who created the man that created everything? More to the point, inbreeding is socially wrong in this society, even amongst Christians, but there were two humans in the beginning? And those two humans were tricked by a talking snake into eating an apple? Very strange.

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Yeah, I apologize. I was having a very bad night with my roommate and stuff. Sorry.

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Well, based on my religion. Yes, God does exist. I don't like to give extremely precise answers on such touchy topics so I'll make it a bit vague.. So in my religion, I only have one god. His name is Allah. Thats all I want to say.
Well, based on my religion. Yes, God does exist. I don't like to give extremely precise answers on such touchy topics so I'll make it a bit vague.. So in my religion, I only have one god. His name is Allah. Thats all I want to say.

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ClassicSable-eye : Well, before you make an opinion on whether or not something exist or not, you do want to keep your facts about the idea of a deity straight. For example, God is not a "man in the sky." God is not a finite person or human, but an infinite entity. An infinite entity doesn't get created. And from our understanding that we are finite beings, there has to be an infinite being to create us and start it all.

I would also want to point out just because something is strange doesn't mean that it is not true, for there are many things that are unusual and strange in our eyes, yet do appear to be true in the world.
ClassicSable-eye : Well, before you make an opinion on whether or not something exist or not, you do want to keep your facts about the idea of a deity straight. For example, God is not a "man in the sky." God is not a finite person or human, but an infinite entity. An infinite entity doesn't get created. And from our understanding that we are finite beings, there has to be an infinite being to create us and start it all.

I would also want to point out just because something is strange doesn't mean that it is not true, for there are many things that are unusual and strange in our eyes, yet do appear to be true in the world.

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